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2014/10/26 15:52:42
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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 Harriticus wrote:GW discovers advancing the plot can temporarily boost sales. Oh 40k fluff should be fun in the next few years.
I think this might be the point that I finally give up on GW. It's been FW and the fluff that's kept me invested despite all the price increases, anti-consumer rubbish, legal bullying etc etc, but now FW are pretty much focused on the Heresy(which is fine, but I like a bit of fantasy as well), and GW proper have apparently decided that having sacrificed so many other things, the only thing left to throw on Kirby's vanity bonfire is the fiction.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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2014/10/26 18:40:47
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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 Moopy wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:From BoLS
Three there will be: three armies, three lords, three brothers. Three cities will fall, three heroes will die.
(the Glotkin and more)
Beneath the greatest city of men the Gardener sows the seeds of despair.
(Altdorf but who's the Gardener?)
The twin-tailed comet blazes in the sky. A sign of hope, or a portent of despair, the augurs cannot say.
(I vote hope as GW is not going to can the setting entirely even if it is shaken up)
The Gardener is Nurgle, I think. His inner sanctum in the realm of Chaos is the garden of Nurgle.
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“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
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2014/10/26 18:50:07
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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If the books for the regular rules of the models is completely sold out and no more are going to be printed.......
The new GW "hidden message" on the site is that they should see pirate ships on the horizon.....
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Aftermath can be calculated.
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2014/10/26 20:07:33
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Deadly Tomb Guard
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Is there any news on the 3rd Wave stuff? I read somewhere that Skaven would be next around Dec/Jan time but not heard much more than that.
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2014/10/26 21:06:51
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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The soft cover books were confirmed by gw but as far as content and quantity, no one knows. It could be one big soft cover for the story or separate one or no story at all. It may just be soft covers for rules only. Maybe the rules will never be released.
If it were me I'd hope they would combine it all into 2 big books. One rules the other story
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
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2014/10/26 21:18:37
Subject: Re:WFB end times wave II
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't hope they keep it limited supply that way those of us who have them get an advantage 
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2014/10/26 23:37:14
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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 namiel wrote:The soft cover books were confirmed by gw but as far as content and quantity, no one knows. It could be one big soft cover for the story or separate one or no story at all. It may just be soft covers for rules only. Maybe the rules will never be released.
If it were me I'd hope they would combine it all into 2 big books. One rules the other story
That's what I was thinking too is one for the combined story. Not sure about combined rules tho just because I think they could make more money from selling the rules in separate books but soft cover with no back story...which seems like something games workshop would do because its all about those dollars!
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2014/10/27 15:56:06
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Well, seems like the Nagash book is returning in soft cover version relatively soon.
From the email I got from GW customer service.
The Nagash end times book will be available shortly in paperback format, and should be available to order from the 01/11/14.
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2014/10/27 16:58:44
Subject: Re:WFB end times wave II
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Many thanks for that info
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2014/10/27 18:12:34
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Fixture of Dakka
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Theory:
Given the timeframe between Nagash and Glottkin, I can see them both having been printed before Nagash released to much higher than expected demand. They do a second, quicker, paperback print run of Nagash to meet demand, meanwhile Glottkin sells out even faster due to having similar numbers printed as Nagash, but more people buying it sooner thanks to Nagash having sold out means it sells out even faster. They will likely put out a paperback print run of Glottkin soon as well, and increase the order for the next book (Khaine?), but then when there is enough copies of Khaine to meet demand and it doesn't sell out in a day or two, people will then announce that the fact Khaine (or whatever) didn't sell out in a day means people lost interest, and GW is going to fail shortly.
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2014/10/27 19:09:59
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:Theory:
Given the timeframe between Nagash and Glottkin, I can see them both having been printed before Nagash released to much higher than expected demand. They do a second, quicker, paperback print run of Nagash to meet demand, meanwhile Glottkin sells out even faster due to having similar numbers printed as Nagash, but more people buying it sooner thanks to Nagash having sold out means it sells out even faster. They will likely put out a paperback print run of Glottkin soon as well, and increase the order for the next book (Khaine?), but then when there is enough copies of Khaine to meet demand and it doesn't sell out in a day or two, people will then announce that the fact Khaine (or whatever) didn't sell out in a day means people lost interest, and GW is going to fail shortly.
I'm willing to bet the entire series was finished before the release of nagash, minitures and all. I'm assuming all the hard backs were printed in th same numbers and the plan from the start was to put them in paperback if they sold well.
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
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2014/10/27 21:01:59
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Implacable Skitarii
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namiel wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote:Theory:
Given the timeframe between Nagash and Glottkin, I can see them both having been printed before Nagash released to much higher than expected demand. They do a second, quicker, paperback print run of Nagash to meet demand, meanwhile Glottkin sells out even faster due to having similar numbers printed as Nagash, but more people buying it sooner thanks to Nagash having sold out means it sells out even faster. They will likely put out a paperback print run of Glottkin soon as well, and increase the order for the next book (Khaine?), but then when there is enough copies of Khaine to meet demand and it doesn't sell out in a day or two, people will then announce that the fact Khaine (or whatever) didn't sell out in a day means people lost interest, and GW is going to fail shortly.
I'm willing to bet the entire series was finished before the release of nagash, minitures and all. I'm assuming all the hard backs were printed in th same numbers and the plan from the start was to put them in paperback if they sold well.
Either of these may be true, but I do wish they would do another printing of the hard back editions. As someone who usually waits a few weeks to see people's reviews on new material, I missed the opportunity to get a copy of Nagash, and now Glotkin has already sold out before it's available. It's unfortunate that they weren't marked as Limited Edition: Hardback, as they would be great additions to the growing collection of books that we have. The paperback just wont feel right and will be counter to all the other codex/army book and supplemental releases that were in hardback only. Outside of the starter sets, I can't think of a book that has been released in paperback.
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2014/10/27 23:36:46
Subject: Re:WFB end times wave II
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Violent Enforcer
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Spoilers from "The Fall of Altdorf"
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2014/10/28 17:38:42
Subject: Re:WFB end times wave II
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/Glottkin.html
some info about the book that you cannot buy -- except digitally
.... for now 
The story of the End Times
Much of the book is dedicated to telling the story of the great Nurgle invasion of the Empire, led by the Brothers Glott. This is the largest incursion the Old World has ever witnessed, and arguably the most pivotal event in the history of the Empire.
No part of the Old World remains untouched as the forces of Chaos sweep across the lands, levelling cities and spreading their foul contagions. The Chaos forces boast infamous villains, not least of which are the Glottkin themselves, but there are also familiar plague-riddled faces such as Festus Leechlord and Ku'gath Plaguefather.
Against the tide of Chaos, the heroes of the Old World have assembled (those still alive, that is – the End Times have already reaped a bloody toll). As the minions of the Dark Gods close in on Altdorf, the mightiest city of the Old World, the Emperor Karl Franz himself leads the defence, alongside the King of Bretonnia and the knights of that noble realm.
This new background is supported by dozens of stunning new pieces of artwork. In the interactive edition for iPad, these illustrations can be viewed in their full pestilent glory.
Naturally, there are also loads of pictures of the beautifully painted armies of Citadel Miniatures. The setting for many of these scenes are the war-choked streets of cities in the Empire falling into ruin.
New Rules
Glottkin contains a wealth of new material for any Warhammer gamer. There are, of course, rules for the new Nurgle miniatures including the Glottkin, as well as updated rules for some other notable heroes such as the Nurgle champion Festus, and the Emperor Karl Franz himself.
Chaos players can take advantage of a new army list, Legions of Chaos, allowing you to combine the forces of the Chaos Warriors, Beastmen and Deamons. As if that wasn’t enough, there are also new rules to represent the power of Chaos infusing the world. One of several benefits this brings is that all Chaos sorcerers can now summon units of daemons! (Two can play at that game, Nagash.)
Finally, there are rules to fight games of brutal urban combat through the ruins of a city, where units will have to navigate the twisting streets before confronting their foe – perfect for re-fighting the desperate battles against the Nurgle invasion.
Narrative Scenarios
Each of the battles mentioned in the first part of the book are included as narrative scenarios, allowing you to re-enact the epic conflict of the End Times, from the battle of Marienburg to the climactic siege of Altdorf itself.
The hardback edition of Glottkin has sold out online, but you can pre-order the interactive edition now for iPad and Apple computer, and it will be ready to read at midnight this Friday.
click through for the art and pics, some of it is very nice.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2014/10/28 17:42:42
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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 Whumbachumba wrote: namiel wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote:Theory:
Given the timeframe between Nagash and Glottkin, I can see them both having been printed before Nagash released to much higher than expected demand. They do a second, quicker, paperback print run of Nagash to meet demand, meanwhile Glottkin sells out even faster due to having similar numbers printed as Nagash, but more people buying it sooner thanks to Nagash having sold out means it sells out even faster. They will likely put out a paperback print run of Glottkin soon as well, and increase the order for the next book (Khaine?), but then when there is enough copies of Khaine to meet demand and it doesn't sell out in a day or two, people will then announce that the fact Khaine (or whatever) didn't sell out in a day means people lost interest, and GW is going to fail shortly.
I'm willing to bet the entire series was finished before the release of nagash, minitures and all. I'm assuming all the hard backs were printed in th same numbers and the plan from the start was to put them in paperback if they sold well.
Either of these may be true, but I do wish they would do another printing of the hard back editions. As someone who usually waits a few weeks to see people's reviews on new material, I missed the opportunity to get a copy of Nagash, and now Glotkin has already sold out before it's available. It's unfortunate that they weren't marked as Limited Edition: Hardback, as they would be great additions to the growing collection of books that we have. The paperback just wont feel right and will be counter to all the other codex/army book and supplemental releases that were in hardback only. Outside of the starter sets, I can't think of a book that has been released in paperback.
Check around local stores. My wife managed to find a copy of Nagash on Sunday for me, and secure a copy of Glottkin. There is still hope!
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2014/10/28 18:26:13
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Yeah, I should be able to grab mine locally. There is still a Nagash or two set in my local stores that I've seen. At least there was on Sunday.
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2014/10/28 21:41:53
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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Was just at my local store today and they still have the Nagash set there. Was talking to the owner and he said he is getting lots of the Glotkins in as well that haven't been sold yet.
Apparently the softcover anthologies will cost $60 CAD so $50ish USD. Not sure if thats individual books tho. Not a fan of the softcovers though I would like to see them release another print run of the hardcovers. I play skaven and am jealous of everyones hardcover army books so I would imagine people who buy the softcover version will feel it is a downgrade.
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2014/10/29 09:26:58
Subject: Re:WFB end times wave II
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/End-Times-Book-3/dp/1849709408/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414574572&sr=1-1&keywords=gav+thorpe+the+end+times
The End Times Book 3 Paperback – 26 Mar 2015
by Gav Thorpe (Author)
Now the hardback version of the End times II has just come out, and has a softback version due in feb.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/End-Times-Book-2/dp/1849709394/ref=sr_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414574721&sr=1-12&keywords=chris+wraight
so it seems about a 3 month gap between the first release and the follow up late Nov/Dec would seem right for the first release of End Times III then yes ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2014/10/29 09:42:40
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Executing Exarch
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Do we know if the softbacks will include both rules and fluff books?
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2014/10/29 10:45:18
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Ugh it's written by Gav Thorpe- one of the worst writers they could've chosen IMO.
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2014/10/29 14:28:19
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I have a question for people that have read the novels that have accompanied the End Times rules/background books. If I am only interested in the background, should I just get the novels? Do they cover most of what is covered in the background book, or do they leave out a lot?
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2014/10/29 14:51:40
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Albino Squirrel wrote:I have a question for people that have read the novels that have accompanied the End Times rules/background books. If I am only interested in the background, should I just get the novels? Do they cover most of what is covered in the background book, or do they leave out a lot?
I've read the Nagash novel, but none of the End Times books. I think they leave out a bit (especially the first, from what I gather), but they give you a good impression of what's happened.
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2014/10/29 16:52:41
Subject: Re:WFB end times wave II
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2014/10/29 18:22:23
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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Nice to see the rules!
I wonder if they are going to repackage the Karl Franz model and put in the asended rules like they have done with the end times boxes?
Still waiting for the next book I want me some Skaven!! Good to see some upgrades in this list tho will definitely help out the beastmen players!
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2014/10/29 19:29:18
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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So, the Daemon Prince for Warriors of Chaos just got worse, because in a Legion he becomes Unstable. Epic Fail, guys.
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2014/10/29 19:42:02
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:So, the Daemon Prince for Warriors of Chaos just got worse, because in a Legion he becomes Unstable. Epic Fail, guys.
Epic reading fail, Legions don't have Instability.
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2014/10/29 19:43:49
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Any unit that had Daemonic Instability, gets Unbreakable AND Unstable.
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2014/10/29 19:46:59
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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2014/10/29 20:08:57
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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 thenoobbomb wrote:Albino Squirrel wrote:I have a question for people that have read the novels that have accompanied the End Times rules/background books. If I am only interested in the background, should I just get the novels? Do they cover most of what is covered in the background book, or do they leave out a lot?
I've read the Nagash novel, but none of the End Times books. I think they leave out a bit (especially the first, from what I gather), but they give you a good impression of what's happened.
The Nagash novel is a bit odd - I feel it starts halfway through a story - I do like Josh Reynolds as a writer though to that helps.
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2014/10/29 20:13:37
Subject: WFB end times wave II
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Actually, any unit that has the Demonic special rule gets Unbreakable and Unstable. As even the WoC Daemon Prince has a special rule called 'Daemonic', he now gets Unstable. UNless, of course, you use the Ascendant rules.
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