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So i have been running my new eldar army (bought them in addition to my Space Marines List) and i do not win alot, and im pretty sure its because i just suck at list making, so would you all suggest list ideas, or hell, make a good one for me i can try then love you long time if i like it. The units i have so far are:

Farseer
3x Warlocks
20x Guardians w/ 2 HW platforms
10x Dire Avengers
10x Fire Dragons
9x Swooping Hawks
5x Shadow Spectres (unbuilt)
2x Wave Serpents
1x Fire Prism
1x Wraithlord
1x Wraithknight
1x Vyper
1x Aegis w/ all weps.

So i dont mind proxying the Farseer as any other HQ. Ideas welcome.

Edit: At 2000 i plan to run Guard Allies with Pask in a 2 tank squad and 1-2 Vet squads w/ snipers, so thats around 500 points.

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Executing Exarch






Right, well, here's what I've come up with in 10 mins:

Farseer,
Warlock (Joins Guardians),
20 Guardians with 2 Bright Lances,
10 Dire Avengers, + Wave Serpent (Scatter Lasers, upgrade Shuricannon, Holofields),
6 Fire Dragons, + Wave Serpent (Scatter Lasers, upgrade Shuricannon, Holofields),
9 Swooping Hawks, Exarch (Sunrifle, Hit & Run),
Fire Prism (Holofields),
Wraithknight.

1471 points (so some change for Singing Spears or Exarch upgrades in the FD / DA units).

How similar is that to the lists you have been running? What armies or units are you struggling most with?
If you face alot of flyers / FMC, it would be worth fitting in the Aegis with Quad or Las. If not many flyers, even just the wall itself can be useful for castling the Guardians on an objective with Conceal.
The Fire Prism is probably the most drop-able of the list above, as they took a hit in 7th, as a replacement you could use the Wraithlord with two heavy weapons (a few more points mind).

Other changes if new models are considered would be swapping the Hawks for Warp Spiders (shorter range / less shots, but much higher strength - can pull anti-air if Guided). The Fire Dragons are also possibly redundant depending on how much armour you tend to face - if you drop them you could split the DA into 2x5 in the Serpents, and use the points for a unit of Jetbikes or pair of War Walkers.
(also, if you feel up to converting a Jetbike Farseer, even if he's going to remain with the Guardians or whatever, not being Instant Death'd by S6-7 is well worth the 15 points in my opinion).

Anyways, just a few random-ish thoughts, hope some of it is helpful.
   
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Seattle Area

Here's what I came up with... I stopped writing the list at 1714, because there wasn't anything else I truly *want* to add from the available models... don't like vypers, or shadows, etc...

You might want to pare this one down to 1500, or buy a couple upgrade to hit 1750 etc.

@HQ [ 2 ]

Farseer (100pt.) Ghosthelm; Rune armour; Witchblade; Shuriken pistol;

2x - Warlocks (70pt.)
> 2x - Warlock (35pt.); Rune armour; Shuriken pistol; Witchblade;

@Elites [ 1 ]

10x - Fire Dragons (365pt.)
> 10x - Fire Dragon (22pt.); Fusion gun; Heavy Aspect armour; Melta bombs;
> 1x - Wave Serpent (145pt.); Serpent shield; Twin-linked scatter lasers; Shuriken cannon; Holo-fields;

@Troops [ 3 ]

10x - Guardian Defenders (110pt.) Bright lance;
> 10x - Guardian (9pt.); Mesh armour; Plasma grenades; Shuriken catapult;

10x - Guardian Defenders (110pt.) Bright lance;
> 10x - Guardian (9pt.); Mesh armour; Plasma grenades; Shuriken catapult;

10x - Dire Avengers (275pt.)
> 10x - Dire Avenger (13pt.); Aspect armour; Avenger shuriken catapult; Plasma grenades;
> 1x - Wave Serpent (145pt.); Serpent shield; Twin-linked scatter lasers; Shuriken cannon; Holo-fields;

@Fast attack [ 1 ]

9x - Swooping Hawks (144pt.)
> 9x - Swooping Hawk (16pt.); Aspect armour; Grenade pack; Haywire grenades; Lasblaster; Plasma grenades; Swooping Hawk grenade pack;

@Heavy support [ 3 ]

Wraithknight (240pt.) Heavy wraith cannon (x2);

Wraithlord (160pt.) Flamer (x2); Bright lance (x2);

Fire Prism (140pt.) Prism cannon; Twin-linked shuriken catapults; Holo-fields;

Froth at the top, dregs at the bottom, but the middle - excellent 
   
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Screaming Shining Spear





znelson wrote:
Here's what I came up with... I stopped writing the list at 1714, because there wasn't anything else I truly *want* to add from the available models... don't like vypers, or shadows, etc...

You might want to pare this one down to 1500, or buy a couple upgrade to hit 1750 etc.

@HQ [ 2 ]

Farseer (100pt.) Ghosthelm; Rune armour; Witchblade; Shuriken pistol;

2x - Warlocks (70pt.)
> 2x - Warlock (35pt.); Rune armour; Shuriken pistol; Witchblade;

@Elites [ 1 ]

10x - Fire Dragons (365pt.)
> 10x - Fire Dragon (22pt.); Fusion gun; Heavy Aspect armour; Melta bombs;
> 1x - Wave Serpent (145pt.); Serpent shield; Twin-linked scatter lasers; Shuriken cannon; Holo-fields;

@Troops [ 3 ]

10x - Guardian Defenders (110pt.) Bright lance;
> 10x - Guardian (9pt.); Mesh armour; Plasma grenades; Shuriken catapult;

10x - Guardian Defenders (110pt.) Bright lance;
> 10x - Guardian (9pt.); Mesh armour; Plasma grenades; Shuriken catapult;

10x - Dire Avengers (275pt.)
> 10x - Dire Avenger (13pt.); Aspect armour; Avenger shuriken catapult; Plasma grenades;
> 1x - Wave Serpent (145pt.); Serpent shield; Twin-linked scatter lasers; Shuriken cannon; Holo-fields;

@Fast attack [ 1 ]

9x - Swooping Hawks (144pt.)
> 9x - Swooping Hawk (16pt.); Aspect armour; Grenade pack; Haywire grenades; Lasblaster; Plasma grenades; Swooping Hawk grenade pack;

@Heavy support [ 3 ]

Wraithknight (240pt.) Heavy wraith cannon (x2);

Wraithlord (160pt.) Flamer (x2); Bright lance (x2);

Fire Prism (140pt.) Prism cannon; Twin-linked shuriken catapults; Holo-fields;

Doesnt look too bad. 10 Fire Dragons are going to be overkill against anything but a Superheavy. For a 1500 point game, I would drop the Wraithlord and 5 Fire Dragons. This leaves you off at 1444. Next I would Upgrade to a Fire Dragon exarch and give him Fast Shot. Now at 1464. Last I would Upgrade to A Dire Avenger Exarch with a Power Weapon + Shimmershield to give the squad a 5+ invul. This is Now 1494. Add a Singing Spear to whichever Farseer/Warlock will be pushing furthest up the board and you are all set at 1499.

4000 points: Craftworld Mymeara 
   
 
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