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 Alpharius wrote:
Do you and Orlando have me on 'ignore' or something?

I'm beginning to wonder why "SAVAGE HORDES" is moving so slowly.

I think it is because the initial offering was so limited, and there hasn't really been much shown for 'in between' goals that has fired people up.

But maybe some of it is due to people not wanting to add even more to their backlog queue?

Maybe waiting for the Rulebook, and this one being for another book before that book is out?

For me it feels like Metal Age just ended, which is partly on me not resolving my pledge until a month or so ago, but is also because it sort of just ended.

The initial scope seems more limited, so there's no pledging for what might appear.

Theres a certain amount of fatigue on my end. I haven't painted a single Darkland mini, and there's only so much gorgeous stuff I can justify keeping locked in my basement (take THAT out of context FBI).

From a rules perspective I'm pretty confident that I have a solid 'big' army of Norse, Angles and Formor, and a 'medium' army of everything else except Byz and Ys. Going to metal gives me some confidence that I can get non-KS infantry at a decent price in the future, so there's a certain lack of urgency.

Some of the stuff I was excited about a year or so ago didn't turn out quite as I was hoping (Norse infantry, Werewulf infantry) so there's a certain amount of caution on that end, but that's still a very minor factor.

 RivenSkull wrote:

That's actually one of my issues. Of the miniatures I've pledged for, (outside of the Jutes) there's roughly 17 miniatures that are already reported to have been sculpted, and 4 others were alteration sculpts, which I have no idea if they are done or not. It's that there are so many that are sculpted that haven't been shipped to me is what's got me worried.

What are you currently waiting on bud. I'm pretty up to date in terms of knowing where each of the sculpts progress is

 zedmeister wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Do you and Orlando have me on 'ignore' or something?

I'm beginning to wonder why "SAVAGE HORDES" is moving so slowly.

I think it is because the initial offering was so limited, and there hasn't really been much shown for 'in between' goals that has fired people up.

But maybe some of it is due to people not wanting to add even more to their backlog queue?

Maybe waiting for the Rulebook, and this one being for another book before that book is out?

Haha! Sorry

I think its the variety, or lack of. Don't get me wrong, the revealed hosts are tasty. But I reckon a lot of people are waiting until their Kindred of choice is unlocked or near unlocked. Fomoraic, Norse, Byzantii, Ysian and Khthones collectors will probably be waiting and watching (pity the poor Vras fans) which doesn't move the pledge total so you're relying on die-hards or collectors of the current revealed Kindreds to reach the total. Maybe dispensing with the hosts and unlocking each human sized infantry unit every £5k or £7.5k would probably get things moving faster. Then, when they are done, they can then move onto stretch goals of the monstrous infantry or others along with host bundles in tandem, tying up the previously revealed infantry into a host bundle.

Yeah, that's most likely it.

I'll tell you what though, this KS is going to 'force' me to start collecting Jutes - which I only narrowly avoided in NEW KINDREDS (where I picked up Atalanteans!) and METAL AGE (which 'forced' me to start Érainn!).

 zedmeister wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:

That's actually one of my issues. Of the miniatures I've pledged for, (outside of the Jutes) there's roughly 17 miniatures that are already reported to have been sculpted, and 4 others were alteration sculpts, which I have no idea if they are done or not. It's that there are so many that are sculpted that haven't been shipped to me is what's got me worried.

What are you currently waiting on bud. I'm pretty up to date in terms of knowing where each of the sculpts progress is

I wouldn't mind seeing an updated list on that Zed!

I know I'm also waiting on a lot of stuff that is completed - and many people have received - due to the backlog created by Tim's surgery.

Is there any update on how close Mierce is to clearing that queue?

Simply put, Tim's operation has put our casting and moulding schedule by a couple of months, but we're slowly getting back on track. It doesn't help that staff also go on holidays, damn them!

There's no need to be worried by this - we'll get to your orders eventually, and we're in the process of hiring more staff to get through the backlog, even if those staff are only temporary.

Remember that orders are prioritised in date order. If you placed your order a while after a project ended, you'll get it later than others.

Also remember that shipment items are the key - if you only have one for a project's orders, you'll only get one shipment, and so everything in your orders would be held up by anything not yet sculpted or moulded. We have been lenient on this in the past, but we did a big review earlier in the year and found that we have lost money on postage for the past two years. For a tiny company like Mierce this is not good, and so we are not lenient any more. This may mean that - as you're used to regular shipments - you're worried about not receiving any; but don't be, it's because of the above reason.

If you want to know where you are in the queue for your orders, just e-mail us - we don't bite!

Finally, last year we moulded, cast and shipped well over 15,000 miniatures and associated gubbins, which is amazing for a company of our size. This year we'll produce more than that. Please don't think we're sitting on our arses, twiddling our thumbs, because we're definitely not!

Thanks for that, Mierce! I think it's really clear that you guys are very hard at work - it's just that there is a lot of work! Some temporary staff sound like a good idea to help make a dent in it (although I hope that's not too expensive, too).

I'm glad you appreciate that we're working hard my friend, it's good of you to say. There's too many moaners in this world, it's nice to hear some praise!

Well it's really clear - having seen the resin casting process up-close with Wehrkind, who does an incredible job but on a very small scale, I can't imagine doing this kind of volume. It is definitely impressive, and again really great to hear that you are catching up on things.

Its good to see you guys around on Dakka, keep up the great work.

Mierce Miniatures wrote:
Simply put, Tim's operation has put our casting and moulding schedule by a couple of months, but we're slowly getting back on track. It doesn't help that staff also go on holidays, damn them!

There's no need to be worried by this - we'll get to your orders eventually, and we're in the process of hiring more staff to get through the backlog, even if those staff are only temporary.

Remember that orders are prioritised in date order. If you placed your order a while after a project ended, you'll get it later than others.

Also remember that shipment items are the key - if you only have one for a project's orders, you'll only get one shipment, and so everything in your orders would be held up by anything not yet sculpted or moulded. We have been lenient on this in the past, but we did a big review earlier in the year and found that we have lost money on postage for the past two years. For a tiny company like Mierce this is not good, and so we are not lenient any more. This may mean that - as you're used to regular shipments - you're worried about not receiving any; but don't be, it's because of the above reason.

If you want to know where you are in the queue for your orders, just e-mail us - we don't bite!

Finally, last year we moulded, cast and shipped well over 15,000 miniatures and associated gubbins, which is amazing for a company of our size. This year we'll produce more than that. Please don't think we're sitting on our arses, twiddling our thumbs, because we're definitely not!

I think most of the concern would be from people that jumped in to the waves that were most affected by Tim's operation and hadn't previously experienced your consistent delivery on earlier projects.

Scaling back my spending in general has nothing to do with a lack of confidence in Mierce delivering.

 zedmeister wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:

That's actually one of my issues. Of the miniatures I've pledged for, (outside of the Jutes) there's roughly 17 miniatures that are already reported to have been sculpted, and 4 others were alteration sculpts, which I have no idea if they are done or not. It's that there are so many that are sculpted that haven't been shipped to me is what's got me worried.

What are you currently waiting on bud. I'm pretty up to date in terms of knowing where each of the sculpts progress is

Aside from Metal Age here's everything:



I'm pretty sure I've got what is done and isn't done right.

 Alpharius wrote:

I wouldn't mind seeing an updated list on that Zed!

I know I'm also waiting on a lot of stuff that is completed - and many people have received - due to the backlog created by Tim's surgery.

Is there any update on how close Mierce is to clearing that queue?

Alright, how's this. I've not included the 2 banebeasts as they are pretty much using Gary Morley and Tim Prow as their sculptors nor will I list Metal Age which is a bit different:


First Edition:
2 miniatures outstanding - both are backer funded Descendents with sculptors booked up and just waiting for a window
2 Books (Rulebook, now at graphic design phase and artbook)


First Edition 2:
Armoured Hrōr - Stéphane Camosseto booked to sculpt. He's finished of Eoric's pack about a month ago
Srók - Roberto Chaudon the machine. This is a conversion of Frenzied Srók which is already sculpted. He's currently about to, or already started work on the next Monstrous Mounts sculpt
Warriors of Dyngonwy, Rhyfelwr Unit - Yannick Hennebo has finished these, so these are currently being cast up
In III Judas, Demilegionarius Incaendium - Rob has just confirmed that Yannick is due to start them in the next few weeks
Quintus Crito - A conversion that Yannick needs to do from the existing Bare Headed Quintus
Shadows of Carn Bran, Shadow-Drune Unit - Stéphane Simon is current sculpting these. 4 out of 5 are probably complete
Ax-Crom, Yrag, Bil and Ekk's Heap - Stéphane Simon due to sculpt after the Shadows (see above)
Spears of Dun Durn, Gairlom Unit - Valentin Zak. If these are anything like the Tuanagh, then these will be stunning. Provisional start date probably end of October time
Rēoc's Pack - currently unassigned. The original sculptor booked to do these went to work for GW!
There's also a 2nd descendant awaiting assignment

Total outstanding: 26
Reckon this should be done by the end of the year especially with Yannick and Valentin doing the work. This project has suffered a bit with 3D sculpting in that some of the figures have had to be reworked and there's been a definite change of sculptors


Monstrous Mounts - There is Light!
Brontull - Dan Cockersell is currently working on this.
Vaenhildr - Roberto Chaudon should have or is imminently starting this. I expect we'll see the first WIPs on Friday
Ágriosávra on Sávrakh - Roberto Chaudon. With Krekkek done, this needs to be moulded and sent back to Roberto so just waiting for a slot now.
Birna on Fellhrafn - Roberto Chaudon and Allan Carrasco. Pretty much waiting for the Vaenhildr to be sculpted now
Blunt-Claw on Goz-Horror - Yannick Fusier - in progress!

Total outstanding: 5 with 3 of those in WIP stage while the remainder are conversion pieces.
Again, this should be done by the end of the year with all sculpts now in progress in some form



New Kindreds:
New sculpts:
Torleik, Norse Troll - Allan Carrasco. I believe Allan will start these when he's complete the Monstrous Mount commissions.
Titos, Dynatos, Mesokolossus Unit, Dynwocor Unit, Bronn ap Banbronn, Dromedus Unit, Iqqud, Egil Dead Hand - All booked to Roberto Chaudon. He's currently finishing off the previous commissions before he begins these. Reckon November/December before he's able to fully start here
Taai-ac and Aggrakk - Benoît Cosse. Can't really say when he'll start
Beasts of Síleann Fen, Cúlaítar and Cqaa - Fancagne Didier. He's already started and we should now see a steady strem of progress with these
Sáthach on Horse - Yannick Hennebo - will start after his FE2 commissions. Though he's currenly sculptor of the moment and really producing stuff fast so I wouldn't be surprised to see more assigned
Eormanræd - JAG. I hate to say this, but I get the feeling that JAG is a tiny bit MIKH like when it comes to business so your guess is as good as mine with when he'll start. Outstandingly talented sculptor though
Gaanh - Patrick Masson - not sure when this will start
Kyros, Thera, Hektor, Nikandros, Oplites Unit, Kretos and Nervor - Hector Moran. He's disappeared of late. I get the feeling that Kingdom Death is monopolising his time somewhat
Danilo Cruz on Horse - Juan Navarro Perez. He's finishing off the alterations, so expect this to be started soon
Ætulla - Stéphane Simon. Currently waiting for him to finish off the FE2 commissions
Heldred - Edgar Skomorowski. Another machine and he should appear fairly quickly. Rob is reportedly over the moon after having some of the Jute sculpts printed!
Stígr - Ernst Veingart - currently in WIP
Total outstanding: 46

Alterations:
Hammer-Brugg, Oghur, Brute and Abhorrent units - Olivier Bouchet. He's just finished Ettu for Bane Beasts Part Deux but I'm not sure when these are scheduled
Shieldwall Eadric, Werwulfas, Trolls and Srónax - Stéphane Camosseto. No idea on schedule
Leaping Creoda, Spike Qaano, Jörmungand Two Axe, Great Axe Thórrir, Ravenhelm Víthar and Bareheaded Knútr - Allan Carrasco - see above comments
Titos Sigma, Dragonshield Angedern, Armoured Mag ap Mag, Armoured Djiuzu, Cleaver Mälmord, Armoured Hrókr, Talos Delta, Dyndraig, Dynwocor, Dromedus and Fiend - Roberto Chaudon - see above comments
Armoured Scecchus - Dan Cockersell. At his rate, probably around Jan/Feb time
Armoured Cearl, Warrior Daachuch, Greathorn Ckaarakk, Armoured Brunchaath, Gabrax, Krokodar and Tarvax units - Benoît Cosse - see above comments
Archer Sthena - Thomas David. Don't know when this will happen
Grisly Araigh and Dairdubh - Fancagne Didier - see above
Bloody Bagseg and Oghurithne Unit - Yannick Fusier. Just waiting for his Monstrous Mounts commission to finish now
Helmed Daarkan and Warrior Tundaar - JAG - see above
Mutated Cormorágg - Aragorn Marks. Not sure, but he's quite friendly with the Mierce gents so probably this year
Helmed Kyros, Helmed Thera, Helmed Hektor, Legionarius and Gorgórar units - Hector Moran - see above
Claw-Seza and Hammer-Druc - Stéphane Nguyen. Not sure
Armoured Dúngal, Skullcap Domnech, Teulu and Warriors of Baalor - Olivier Nkweti - don't know here
Bareheaded Ætulla, Helmed Ophios, Magma Svrill, Sickle-Annik, Ax-Jowan, Spike-Gondard, Cynuise of Old, Holumenn, Gesithas and the Gorgonar units - Stéphane Simon - see above
Helmed Rudraige, Cormac on Gabrax and the alternates for the Tuanagh - Valentin Zak - probably later this year
Unmasked Velchior, Warrior Aldhelm, Dagger-Kernuor, Warrior Wulfhere, Wulf Skull Cynemon, Warrior Hywel Hir, Warrior Kjartan and the Sword-Melusines - unassigned. Expect these to be booked into available sculptors when able
Total outstanding: 89
New Kindreds full total: 135

I think you are looking June time next year to see the bulk of New Kindreds done. It's been progressing slower as the sculptors are slowing churning through previous Kickstarters, but there's been a lot booked.

Overall, I think, by the end of this year, we should see FE, FE2, MM, Bane Beasts 1 and Bane Beasts 2 pretty much complete barring the odd straggler. Of course, this is my own estimation. If you are worried that they still have a lot on, consider the fact that in the past 2 years, they've commissioned and cast over 300 different sculpts through Kickstarter. Adding the above gives approximately over 500!

Ryan's page here gives a little more insight into what's been done.


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 RivenSkull wrote:


Aside from Metal Age here's everything:

Anything in Green is done, Red is outstanding and blue WIP:

Thanks for the update Zed that's really useful.

 zedmeister wrote:



Overall, I think, by the end of this year, we should see FE, FE2, MM, Bane Beasts 1 and Bane Beasts 2 pretty much complete barring the odd straggler. Of course, this is my own estimation. If you are worried that they still have a lot on, consider the fact that in the past 2 years, they've commissioned and cast over 300 different sculpts through Kickstarter. Adding the above gives approximately over 500!

That's crazy, especially given the quality.
Reaper and CMoN probably matched that for volume...but I can't think who else would have.

 plastictrees wrote:


That's crazy, especially given the quality.
Reaper and CMoN probably matched that for volume...but I can't think who else would have.

Indeed and they show no signs of stopping! I've kept a compiled list of rumours and snippets that I used to post on the Mierce Forum before it crashed of stuff they have hinted, planned or ideas they'd like to implement and there's enough to double that. For example, here's a small snippet:

I know they want to do Werdeers and Werbears for the Angelcynn; Khalkotes for Atalantes; Dyngwyferns, Mynach Du (Black Monks) and Cawrdraig Unit for Brythoniaid; Cataphract cavalry and Praetorians for the Byzantii; Peat Beasts and Fir Danu - Warp-spasms or Warp-Warriors for the Eirann; Feleax, Gul-Gabrax and Conands' sea creatures for the Fomoraic; Infernii Daemon Engines and a mysterious 30mm base unit; Jute Spectres and/or Ghosts; Khthones Chelones (Turtle Men) the long wanted Sávrar and Lískar Unit (Basilisk-men); Norse Húskarlar; Ysian Sky Ships!

That's not including even more Kindreds that they've talked about that they could do - Seaxons (White Dragons and Perverted Monks are hinted); Merovigian Franks; Dal Riatians; Visigoths; Kerus; Geats; Northumbralanders ; Frisians; the Umayyad Caliphate; On and on. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Skrælings and Far East units make an appearance at some time in the very distant future. All I can say is its ambitious stuff!

Wow!

Thank you Zed - much appreciated!

 zedmeister wrote:

Hope that helps?

Separately, and obviously depending on cost, but for shipping I reckon that in order to receive everything at a nice flow, you need:

1-2 waves for Monstrous Mounts
2-3 waves for New Kindreds
1 for Might Monsters

Yeah thank you.

Right now I've got 3 shipments paid for, so ideally that should cover everything coming to me on that list when things get done.

I know I've spoke up several times here and there about the delays.

That is my main issue with not backing anything in a long time.

I can look at when I used my pledge to actually order things....April of 2014.....still waiting on outstanding items when if I remember correctly everything was supposed to be delivered by early 2015.

Here we are going into late 2015 and Im still waiting. I know small company and all but when the shipping delays are your/ the companies fault for not shipping on time...and it kinda annoys me to be told ohh if you want stuff in small batches pay more shipping when its again the companies fault for not delivering products according to their timeline.

That timeline has slipped and slipped all year long, yes some year before im dead Im sure the products will arrive as hey have delivered 75% of what i ordered already and I believe they do intend to finish delivering what I paid for.

However it doesnt inspire me to continue to support the company with delay after delay and then asking for more shipping to make for an over 6 Month delay on production/slipping.

Thats my 2 cents as fairly large backer back in early 2014.

I love Mierce, but I don't like ranged combat!

Joyboozer wrote:
I love Mierce, but I don't like ranged combat!

...OK?

Those dirty Ys have a nasty unit of bowmen!

And really, the bow and arrow has been a staple of warfare since...well before recorded history?

Joyboozer wrote:
I love Mierce, but I don't like ranged combat!

You can always pledge now for their back catalogue. You get 10/20% off and help fund other minis now for those who do like ranged units. Also if you ask, Mierce will typically unlock any KS categories which are still open, which is still fairly substantial. Plus, those spiders are a crazy good deal if you buy the metal host - for 3 pounds LESS, you get 11 more figs. Sell em on the back end and recoup some of your expenses on big ass spiders!

Thinking of upping for a previous KS you did back? Back now, and use the money back for the same purpose. It helps Mierce, it helps the other backers, and in the event you change your mind on the offerings of this kickstater months later, you can still get in on the action.

If you like the company, there's pretty much never a reason to sit a KS out entirely!

I'm already in, there's just nothing yet new I want.

I'll pony up despite my wife's objections when some reptiles show up.

New art for the Byzantii: Sagittarius:



Also, there's going to be a Fomoraic unlock at £25k...

hi

Is not the rigth place but , i cant access the mierce site , anyone had the same problem?

saluti

A very unexpected Fomoraic stretch! Gul-Gabrax

Darth Visari wrote:
hi

Is not the rigth place but , i cant access the mierce site , anyone had the same problem?

saluti

Can't log in? Best thing to do is contact them directly

and they've got a sculptor lined up for them too, Michael Anderson who did Rikkard for them amongst others

Goat minotaurs? I can dig it.

Here's what we've all been waiting for!

I'd not say no to that

Should've started a Khtonnnneeessssssssssssssss army.