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I decided to run an Archer themed 7TV campaign after stumbling across this lovely model on the Hasslefree website.

7TV is going to be a really fun system to use for the game, but I need to find models for it! Obviously, I already have an excellent model for Lana Kane, and there are several companies, such as Copplestone, from which I could get generally acceptable models. BUT, there's little better than going to the DakkaDakka community when looking for a model and I don't want to leave any stone unturned!

So far, along with the Maya model from Hasslefree, I added the following models to my order:

Codename: Alexander

Donnie

Gina and Rae

The high priority miniatures are those for the main cast.

Archer

Cyril Figgis

Ray Gillette

Pam Poovey

Cheryl Tunt

Woodhouse

Malory Archer

I expect in some cases conversions will be necessary.

For Archer, I would be happy with suit and Hermes tie or tactical turtleneck. The most important thing about Cyril is his sweater vest, unless he is in his field agent outfit.

Reaper has a not-Archer miniature, but it is not terribly exciting.

The best option I've found for Pam so far is a miniature in the Wargames Factory women apocalypse survivors set, but it'll require some conversion.

The best I have for Cheryl Tunt right now is Brother Vini's secretary model.

For Archer, have a look at the first couple of models from Nexus Models: http://www.nexus-miniatures.co.uk/store

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/castingroomminiatures/tim-prows-street-violence/

might be of use.

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/street-violence

might yield something too.

Sounds like a fun project and 7TV is definitely the ruleset for this kind of thing.

I can't think of any exact figs off hand, but a few companies that might have lines that would interest you.

-East Riding Miniatures. They are called ERM25, but they're mostly 28 or bigger. Not super detailed casts, but well done and easy to paint, and cheap.

-No Go Zone

-Spy or die trying

-Mutants and Madmen

-Copplestone castings. Check their "future Wars" lines as well as the "kiss kiss bang bang" line

-EM4 In the "future warriors" line there's a number of civies, suits, etc.

-Hasslefree has a number of characters and dangerous chicks.

-RAFM Modern Heroes line has a number of characters that are not military.

For other militant baddies and allies, look for cold war era ruskies and mujahadeen from historical companies like TAG.

Best of luck!

Thanks for the leads Eilif!

It should be a fun time. My wife and I are planning to blog the crap out of it, so if you are interested, you'll be able to follow along.

7TV is a fun system, and flexible enough to handle a lot of what we need to do without much modification. But what theme game would be fun without house rules?

We're going to do some renaming of certain Special Effects (Archer has "Situational Awareness" instead of Sixth Sense, and Lana's Kung Fu Grip is called "Man Hands") and add in some new ones. The biggest changes are going to be to event and gadget cards. Gadgets are going to be limited to those that are actually used in the show (Omicron Spymaster; Poisocaine; night vision goggles; etc.), and we are going to make all of the event cards Archer-themed.

We are also going to include a set of Archer-specific event cards and a set of special rules for Archer. The game is something that my wife and I plan to play at home, and she is going to play the Isis cast, with Lana Kane as the star. I am going to play all of the enemies, and also play Archer. Archer is a wild card that is often as unhelpful as he is helpful, so when he is part of the Cast, he is going to activate with the Isis Cast, but his Ratings aren't going to be part of the Isis ratings.

Archer is also going to have a disadvantage called "High Functioning Alcoholic." During the prologue phase you roll 1D6. The enemy models get a number of special Archer Event Cards equal to the roll. If the roll is a 1, Archer starts the game Confused. Archer Event Cards will be things like "Miscommunication" - the enemy gets to advance or delay a countdown by 1 (whichever is more advantageous) ["Mancy. What did you think I said?"]

Sounds brilliant. If you get a system down that works well that seems like the kind of game that would go over very well at a convention.

Looking forward to seeing where this goes. If you use a separate blog site send me the link.

Sounds like a great extension for 7TV, I can't wait to see it progress.

Hasslefree just released a not-Archer and Not-Lana called "Jason Shaw" and "Maya"
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=resin-master-%252d-jason-shaw~hfmaster-a146&category=miniatures~*new-toys*
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=resin-master-%252d-maya~hfmaster-a145&category=miniatures~%2Anew-toys%2A

Right now in resin, but I think these generally appear in resin for 1/3 the price fairly soon after the resins are released.

 Eilif wrote:
Hasslefree just released a not-Archer and Not-Lana called "Jason Shaw" and "Maya"
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=resin-master-%252d-jason-shaw~hfmaster-a146&category=miniatures~*new-toys*
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=resin-master-%252d-maya~hfmaster-a145&category=miniatures~%2Anew-toys%2A

Right now in resin, but I think these generally appear in resin for 1/3 the price fairly soon after the resins are released.

Thanks. I picked up Maya in resin, but I am waiting for the metal Shaw as I have to hack off those Tec-9s and replace them. If I have to take a blade to it, I'm not spending $20 on the miniature. I think he put the shoulder holster on to hide the seam where the right arm bit connects to the shoulder, which is acceptable. But the Tec-9s do need to be replaced with something else.

Kev may or may not do anymore miniatures along a similar theme. One sometimes does not know with Hasslefree. If he does, that'll be fantastic, although I'll have to wait for it all to be in production.

Oops, I missed that you already got maya. I just got the notice about the figs in my email and thought of this post. I definitely understand not dropping $20 on a model headed for modding. (or almost any model in my case…).

It's true that you never really know if more are coming or how long it will take for a resin to become metal. Ah, the whims of the artiste'...

On the plus side, I think I found a good Doctor Krieger.

Keep in mind (if you don't already know) - RAFM - Modern Day Hero line is a "tall" 32mm. They actually are pretty close to 1/48 scale as opposed to 32mm.

Harwood has a couple which might fit as background characters for modern games (can't think of a specific Archer character...but sometimes you just need a Red Shirt).

http://www.harwoodhobbies.com/store/c3/Lovecraft_Circle.html

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
Keep in mind (if you don't already know) - RAFM - Modern Day Hero line is a "tall" 32mm. They actually are pretty close to 1/48 scale as opposed to 32mm.

Harwood has a couple which might fit as background characters for modern games (can't think of a specific Archer character...but sometimes you just need a Red Shirt).

http://www.harwoodhobbies.com/store/c3/Lovecraft_Circle.html

Thanks Sean. I considered that, but thanks for letting me know the Modern Day Hero line skews large. Kev's models are 'true' 30mm scale, i.e. a 5'10" model would be 30mm to the top of the head. If Kev sculpted the Shaw model to be as tall as Archer (6'2"), then the miniature should stand about 32mm to the top of the head. Of course, who knows how tall Kev's armature was.

The RAFM model is reasonably slight of build, and Doctor Krieger is pretty tall at 6'1" (according to the Archer wiki). If the Korson miniature was closer to a '32mm' scale, then there probably wouldn't be too much of a difference. If they are more like 1/48, the miniature might be as much as, what, 37-38mm to the top of the head?

It's only $6 to find out though.

A little bit of conversion would make that Dr. Zander miniature a decent Krieger. You'd just need to add the hair and beard.

Just be aware of the usage that most other folks are going to have for "true". Most that use the "true" notation will be using it to indicate the proportions of the minis being closer to reality, not to denote exact height.

Thus "true-scale 28mm" will most likely be referring to figs that are 28mm to-the-eye, but are not "heroic" in terms of having thicker proportions. Perry miniatures are a commonly cited true-28mm figure. 28mm to-the-eye and very realistic proportions.

Hasslefree stuff tends to be on the true side of 28mm. Not perfectly to real proportions, but still 28mm to the eye for an average man, with the proportions not being very exaggerated.

 Eilif wrote:
Just be aware of the usage that most other folks are going to have for "true". Most that use the "true" notation will be using it to indicate the proportions of the minis being closer to reality, not to denote exact height.

Thus "true-scale 28mm" will most likely be referring to figs that are 28mm to-the-eye, but are not "heroic" in terms of having thicker proportions. Perry miniatures are a commonly cited true-28mm figure. 28mm to-the-eye and very realistic proportions.

Hasslefree stuff tends to be on the true side of 28mm. Not perfectly to real proportions, but still 28mm to the eye for an average man, with the proportions not being very exaggerated.

Yea, absolutely. I always take 'true' to mean that the sculptor does his or her level best to keep the proportions of the miniature exactly proportional to the scale being used.

But you can't really do that and create a manufacturable miniature. The Perry twins sculpt true-er than some other historical sculptors, but they still use some pretty heroic proportioning. Kev is pretty good at keeping his miniatures realistic and consistent in scale. I also really like Tre Manor's work for its closer conformity to accurately scaled proportions. Werner Klocke uses a more exaggerated style, to my eyes, but his compositions manage to evoke a 'true' scale sensibility. I think the more flamboyant nature of both FBF, and Werner's work in general, makes his proportioning feel more natural than it is.

As the technology of miniature production gets better, it has gotten progressively easier to sculpt truer to scale, and these days lots of sculptors are using (slightly) larger scales, wherein it is easier to keep proportions realistic. Digitial sculpting has certainly advanced the ball, although I'm still a sucker for hand sculpting. A lot of digital sculpts just seem too cold and clinical to me.

Most of them end up being 34-38mm to the top of the head (roughly speaking taking into account things like hair and what not). They are right in the 1/48 scale ball park - which makes them perfect for my purposes...but it can be a bit of a disappointment for people who want to use them with other companies.

You can see the difference here:

http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.com/2013/05/zombicide-figures-size-comparison.html

The male sculpts are a bit taller than the females, and the girl from RAFM is a bit taller than the guy from Hasslefree.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
Most of them end up being 34-38mm to the top of the head (roughly speaking taking into account things like hair and what not). They are right in the 1/48 scale ball park - which makes them perfect for my purposes...but it can be a bit of a disappointment for people who want to use them with other companies.

You can see the difference here:

http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.com/2013/05/zombicide-figures-size-comparison.html

The male sculpts are a bit taller than the females, and the girl from RAFM is a bit taller than the guy from Hasslefree.

Hrmmmm...Yea, if the men are taller than the women, that would probably be too big.

weeble1000 wrote:

But you can't really do that and create a manufacturable miniature.

Definitely agree, it's a matter of durability on the table. Weapons, spears, wrists, ankles, etc all have to be "beefed" up a bit or you end up with minis that are just fragile. Whether plastic or metal, there are things that will always have to be chunked up if a mini is to be useful for more than just display. "True" has always been a relative term, but it's mostly a term describing proportion rather than height.

I don't see it as being a digital vs hand sculpted thing. There are extremely "finely" detailed and closer-to-true miniatures done in both mediums, though larger scales like 30mm+ do make it easier to achieve this.