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Gah! Help.... I am at a virtual coin toss as to which to take. Id love to say screw it buy and try both, but i need to buy any of the models for either of these choices, so i have to come to a conclusion. The age old Knights or Skullcrushers.

Ill give an idea of the list (my detailed list is not infront of me atm, there might be something in the list thats alittle off, its ok, im just giving you an idea of the list im running to better decide on my general and mounted unit), what im trying to decide on, and whats going through my head. I need some input..

List:

Khorne Hero BSB (with KWarriors)
Festus Leechlord (with NWarriors)
Lvl 4 Sorc Lord(Shadow)(with NWarriors)

23 Khorne Warriors w/ Halberds, FC, banner 'o swift
18 Nugrle Warriors w/ sword&board, FC, gleaming banner
5 hounds w/ poison
5 hounds w/ poison

hellcannon

ok, now here are my dilemmas,

now do i take (mind you i dont give a poonanny that theres a sorcerer and MoK in the same army, i can still sleep at night) :

nurgle lord w/ steed, ogre blade, soul feeder, ToP, charmed shield,
9 nurgle knights, FC, enscrolled weap

cant be baited, not as susceptable to a giant rock, still hits hard but not as hard, less wounds in the unit

-or-

khorne lord w/ jugger, ogre blade, soul feeder, ToP, charmed shield
5 skull crushers, musician, standard, enscrolled weap

hits harder, can be baited, will be turned into swiss cheese by stuff like goblins with little pointy helmets and wings




model wise i love both the archon model as a proxy, but that khorne lord on jugger is nothing to scoff at either.. gah! i just dunno.

Oh! also. blightkings or nurgle warriors.. thoughts??? they look stupid awesome on paper, but like juggers, KB and MW attacks will cleave through those valuable points fast.

would love any and all input on the matter. Thanks!!!!

I think the skullcrushers are better than the knights, and i also love how badass they look. So my vote is for the juggys.

But I'd stick to only 1 box and the lord, have a front of 4, without getting into numbers the juggers do as much if not more dmg than the warriors they are carrying so having a rank (which i suppose you are trying to get by getting 5+Lord) won't give as much punishment as it should due to the juggers not being able to support. I usually just play 3 of them with ensorcelled weapons, musian and banner. Adding the lord would be nice to take out even bigger units and a front of 4 is still viable

Interesting. What would you suggest with the extra points?

The only upgrades I would give the hounds (if any) would be vanguard, the poison isn't worth the pts.

Well here is the detailed list for better analysis. i hear ya on the vanguard, it would help. any suggestions would be great.

LnH:
Lord w/ Jugger, MoK, Ogre Blade, Charmed Shield, Soul Feeder, Tali of Pres - 375pts
I know he and his unit can be baited, but hopefully i will have the skills and a few hounds to keep that from happening as much as possible.

Lvl 4 Sorcerer Lord w/ Enchanted Shield, Dispel Scoll, Dawnstone, Lore of Shadow - 325pts
I know, I know. a lord without a ward or MR. I am banking on the use of Festus' regen and re-rollable 2+ saves to keep him alive. am i wrong in my thinking? He will be with the nurgle warriors.

Festus the Leechlord - 190pts
A list with nurgle and not have festus in it, a nurgle list it does not make. How could anyone pass him up? i just wish i had the points to make him his endtime version. will be with the nurgle warriors.

Hero w/ MoK, Sword of Might, BSB, Tali of End, Shield, Scaled Skin - 218pts
Pretty straightforward choice. i would prefer give him a halberd for a cheaper +1S, but can you do that if hes holding the BSB and a shield? he goes with the khorne warriors

Core:
18 Warriors w/ MoN, FC, sword and shield - 336pts
My anvil, coupled with festus this unit isn't going anywhere, or atleast not without throwing a heck of a lot at it imo.

17 Warriors w/ MoK, FC, halberds, banner of swiftness - 368pts
Them plus the hero should make this a pretty solid second hammer, or first, dosen't matter, they will hit like a train.

5 warhounds
5 warhounds
Simple chaff and redirectors, mostly used to keep my raged warriors and juggers from being baited around the board. Id like to give them vanguard somehow

Special
Gorebeast chariot w/ MoN - 140pts
Generally i have a rule to always run chariots in pairs. But i had a odd amount of leftover points and i needed something else on the table. they could act as fast support or enemy artillery hunters. If the points are better spent otherwise, let me know. i was thinking a couple of spawns could do aswell... thoughts?

Rare
Hellcannon
do i need to explain?

3 Skullcrushers w/ FC, gleaming pennant, enscrolled weapons - 269pts
I debated a good long while (and still sort of am) on whether to take a nurgle general on a steed in a unit of 9 knights, or these guys plus the khorne lord. Where i stand atm is these guys simply hit harder and i wanted a good solid hammer. I could easily justify the nurgle mounted unit instead, but it really comes down to a coin toss i think on the pros and cons. let me know your thoughts. the FC is just so i dont lose the unit to something like a stupid single combat resolution point that breaks them.

2491pts