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@outlaw - You beat me to it, ive used exactly the same part to do a couple of condemnor boltguns too. Ill post a pick up soon to compare.

I had my second game with the new dex last night, and this time i had a decent victory. I was against IG, 2000pts, crusade (5 objectives), hammer and anvil deployment, i chose to go 2nd.

Thoughts from the game:

- 20 woman blobs of sisters with a priest are very difficult to remove. My opponent scared me in the first turn by removing 5-8 from each unit with ordanance shots even though they were in cover, but 2 outflanking dom squads (amazing with hammer and anvil deployment) made short work of his pie-plate chuckers.

- IG really really dont like flamers of any type. He had a load of troops hiding behind an ADL with boosted cover saves (from warlord trait) who were not going to be moved by bolter fire, but a ballsy and lucky deepstrike from my seraphim managed to remove 17 opf a 21 man squad in a single turn of shooting.

- Preferred enemy is awesome on BSS. I put a simulacrum in each 20 woman squad, so 4 lots of massed shooting from them wiped the veteran squads who were trying for objectives

- I really didnt struggle with a lack of AoF. The doms only needed 1 AoF each and with laud hailers on their transports they were reliable. My Heavy flamer rets didnt need to use theirs at all (what use is rending on 4+ armour max with heavy flamers)

- Priests are worth their weight in gold, but i dont think ill pay for upgrades on them, just run them bare-bones is most efficient in my opinion.

Cant wait for my next game now. Im trying to organise a big Apoc game soon too, its looking like it'll be 6-8K each side, AS (with IG allies) vs Black templars and more black templars (2 players each with a large BT force). Ithink they are planning on having 200+ marine bodies on the table. Should be fun!

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
So Outlaw you just cut up a DE crossbow yes?.

Yep, I just cut the rear section off of one of the crossbowmen and stuck it under the barrel of the boltgun. Not exactly a difficult conversion but very effective id say.

Hmmm.... time to go find some bitz! Quickly Robin! To ebay!

Nobody_Holme wrote:
Those conclaves should REALLY get to charge from within rhinos.

Its not like the rhinos are so OP and survivable there's no way they are balanced as assault vehicles, like they used to say no way the 14/14/14 land raiders couldn't be assault veh... Oh wait.

GG GW

I would even be willing to pay for a small upgrade on the rhino to make it so you could assault out of the rear hatch

My conversion idea also works with the regular battle sister model thats holding the grenade up to her mouth.
I had to check out the other poses since now on the GW site the sister superior models I was using are sold out but I wanted to make two more.

heracyangel wrote:

Nobody_Holme wrote:
Those conclaves should REALLY get to charge from within rhinos.

Its not like the rhinos are so OP and survivable there's no way they are balanced as assault vehicles, like they used to say no way the 14/14/14 land raiders couldn't be assault veh... Oh wait.

GG GW

I would even be willing to pay for a small upgrade on the rhino to make it so you could assault out of the rear hatch

I think every codex with a rhino in it would be willing to do that.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Hmmm.... time to go find some bitz! Quickly Robin! To ebay!

You could also wait a few hours to see if my Condemnor suits once it's done, it's what I'm working on now.

 scrunty wrote:
- Priests are worth their weight in gold, but i dont think ill pay for upgrades on them, just run them bare-bones is most efficient in my opinion.

Except Litanies if you're running them in a 20 blob. That is required.

Just give the Repressor assault ramps like it was posted in white dwarf and we will all be happy.

Liking all of the conversion work in here.

I think we are going to need a large supply of Godwyn Deaz bolters some day. I heard that when the line gets redone all of their bolters are going to be stranded imperial patter like marines (heck look at IG and how their bolters got redone as well) I personally love the Godwyn Deaz patter especially as it is just as much as a weapon as it is a symbol of their faith.

 Ovion wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Hmmm.... time to go find some bitz! Quickly Robin! To ebay!

You could also wait a few hours to see if my Condemnor suits once it's done, it's what I'm working on now.

Truuuuuuuue. That's slightly more work with white metal thought

It's too bad that most of the bolters in our line aren't even GD bolters.

Assault repressors would make a ton of sense, given the arbites' use for them.

It would also mean repentia would actually have a place in a serious list, as using AT firepower on immolators is all well and good but there's that AV13 box with murder machines coming up with them, and it could multi-charge all your tanks...

That would be pretty awesome, but alas. Good stuff for the wishlist thread though.

I guess.

FW guys might be reading this and then consider it when they get around to redoing the thing, though, because that would give them a lot of sales, and its far enough in the future to not really hurt the core GW line.

Had a great agme last night - 3rd outing for the Sisters with new codex and I am starting to get to grips with them.

Once again I had the Initiative seized but it was an incredably brutal melta fest - with me runing loads of them and him having Vulkan and lots of melta's and flamers as well.

Went down to the 6th Turn and lost narrowly on KP - good learning experience in some areas - where I should have charged and where not, target selection etc........

Going to go back to 2 Dominions and give St C some Seraphim support I think.

I'm really pleased to see all of the battle reports and enthusiasm that the new book has brought. Great to see!

I'm looking forward to the new Inquisition Codex coming out in November. It will certainly open up some new possibilities and builds for AS.
My hope is that we get Battle Brother status with (at least) the Ordo Hereticus portion of the Codex. If there is one portion of our new Codex I am not totally happy with it's the HQ selections. I think an Inquisitor (think Coteaz) with Battle Brother status in our current builds would really help buff our units.

It'll be interesting what other types of units will be available for us, maybe some Skyfire weapons or psychic abilities would be nice.

It appears that Inquisition will fit in your FOC and not take up the ally slot. Which, when coupled with the FW rules, means we get C:SM as battle brothers. That will open a lot of possibilities.

I am sad to say how few games I've gotten in with the new book. Work is just kicking my arse, and of course, other gaming distractions. But I hear a lot of positive reports coming from various forums im on.

 pretre wrote:
It appears that Inquisition will fit in your FOC and not take up the ally slot. Which, when coupled with the FW rules, means we get C:SM as battle brothers. That will open a lot of possibilities.

What FW stuff would make Marines our Battle Brothers?

Amerikon wrote:

 pretre wrote:
It appears that Inquisition will fit in your FOC and not take up the ally slot. Which, when coupled with the FW rules, means we get C:SM as battle brothers. That will open a lot of possibilities.

What FW stuff would make Marines our Battle Brothers?

Red Hunters, I believe. Their Chapter Tactic says that any GK or AS army with an Inquisitor HQ is Battle Brothers with them. Made absolutely no sense until they announced this new codex.

They also have a good normal tactic as well:

The Red Hunters (Progenitors: Unknown)
The Red Hunters Chapter is tied to the Inquisition by ancient bonds of honour and duty. Fighting in Inquisitorial strike forces and providing honour guards for the most senior of Inquisitor-lords, the Red Hunters have confronted numerous horrors no mortals can face and be allowed to live should they survive, lest they taint others. As such, the Chapter’s line brethren are routinely mind-scoured to preserve their souls, a fact that makes them even more valuable weapons in the hands of the secretive and often necessarily brutal Inquisition. Through repeated mind scouring and deep-core psycho-indoctrination, Red Hunters brethren are instilled with countless subconscious battle doctrines which are only activated by the act of making war.

Mnemonic Redaction Protocols: All models with Chapter Tactics (Red Hunters) have the Adamantium Will special rule. In addition, once per game at the beginning of any one player turn, the controlling player may declare that a number of their units with Chapter Tactics (Red Hunters), including Dreadnoughts, equal to the number of the turn being played will have one of the following special rules, chosen by the controlling player, until the beginning of their next turn. For example, if the protocols are activated in Turn 3, then three units may choose a single special rule from the following to apply:
• Counter-attack
• Monster Hunter
• Tank Hunters
• Hatred
• Skyfire
• Interceptor

By this Seal: When using the Allies Matrix, all models in the Red Hunters detachment count units from Codex: Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle as Battle Brothers so long

Link to FW's site


Anyone know any more about Red Hunters?

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Hunters

Coteaz giving retributors twink linked through psychic power would be really nice... assuming we do get battle brothers.

For what it matters, Invisibility cast on a squadron of penitent engines walking up would also be incredibly nasty... same for Repentias

Voldrak wrote:
Coteaz giving retributors twink linked through psychic power would be really nice... assuming we do get battle brothers.

Meh, I'd be more impressed with some Space Marines. GK are cool and all...

Amerikon wrote:

 pretre wrote:
It appears that Inquisition will fit in your FOC and not take up the ally slot. Which, when coupled with the FW rules, means we get C:SM as battle brothers. That will open a lot of possibilities.

What FW stuff would make Marines our Battle Brothers?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/F/FWchaptertactics.pdf

The Red Hunters (Progenitors: Unknown)
By this Seal: When using the Allies Matrix, all models in the Red Hunters detachment count units from Codex: Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle as Battle Brothers so long as an Inquisitor is also present in the allied detachment.

Doesn't work right now but maybe soon...

the more I think about it, the more I would play 3 Pen engines if we could cast invisibility on them... watch your oponent shake in his boots as he's trying to kill stuff walking up on a 2+ cover save that can decimate his lines.

Edit:

how about this?

Standard 20 sister blob we've been talking about. Attach a lvl3 librarian. walk up with the penitent engines in the middle of that group so the engines have a 5+ cover, 2+ with invisibility.
When the time comes, open up the front rank and let the engines charge whatever you want.

Unit also goes to a 3+ deny the witch with what Librarian which would be nice... all assuming we get those battle brother shenanigans.

Even with Invisibility, I wouldn't run PE. lol

Is there a release date for the Inquisitor stuff yet?

Would be well worth it I think. No one wants to have those walkers in their back lines. Their downside is how fragile they are to shoot down or kill in assault.

With a 2+ cover save and everything hitting them on 5s (invisibility) they get incredibly reliable.

Plus you get bonus points for being super fluffy by having your sisters bear witness to heretics trying to redeem themselves

Don't want to play Penitent engines? Repentias would be just as nasty standing in the middle of that sister blob. 2+ cover.. only hit on 5s in assault and then they have their 3+ feel no pain for anything hitting them. Want to be mean? Attach a Priest and Celestine before they charge. Get that re-roll armor up and watch anything crumble as Celestine tanks all the hits and Repentias go to town giving Celestine a 3+ feel no pain as well.

Taking a break from working to bring this important announcement:
Condemnor design done.


My main concern is the strength of the 'string', but it's only a little thinner than the one on GWs crossbows...
Let me know what you think!