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Hey guys,

Recently i've been fascinated with gunwagons and some of the other vehicles available to orks. I've come up with this list primarily as something intended to be 'fluffy' but able to hold its ground as a TAC.

CAD1
HQ's
Big Mek - bike, boss pole, Da finkin' cap, SAG/KFF (131)
Warboss - Armour, DLS, Big choppa (94)
Mek (15)

Troops
10 shoota boyz - Big shoota, Nob, boss pole (90)
10 grots - Squighound (40)

HS
3 Gunwagons (1 slot squadron) - lobbas, rams (225)
9 lootas (126)
5 flash gitz (110)


CAD2
HQ
Big Mek - Mega Armour (75)
Painboy (50)
mek (15)

Troops
10 choppa boyz - EArmour, nob, boss pole, PK (140)
10 choppa boyz - Nob, Boss pole, PK (100)
2 trukks - rams (70)

HS
3 killakanz - Grotzookas (65)
1 Deffdread - PK, skorcha (95)

Total 1441 pts


The overall aim;
I really like the idea of the gunwagons as a squadron, I intend to have flash gitz in one, lootas in another and shoota boyz in the final. The squadron will be positioned so the shoota boyz and flash gitz can move forward, using the shoota boyz gunwagon to bear all of the enemy fire (being closest model), while protecting my flash gitz and my lootas. I added a big mek in MA to go along with the lootas, he provides the ability to move and shoot, so that they dont spend the entire game snapshooting. But im not sure of his worth? as in reality, I can keep the first wagon still (with lootas in), move the gitz 6" and still fire (assault weapons), while flatout/heavily advancing the shoota boyz, as I only need a 4" cohenerency.

Painboy goes with ard boyz, giving them a pretty durable unit, while not being overwhelmingly threatening and there prime target. The second trukk takes the warboss and the boyz, I kept the warboss cheap with DLS and EA, so that he doesn't slow the unit but also so he's not clearly my 125 pt character to kill. But im not sure what to make of his TBH.

Other than that, il advance, lay down heavy fire from my gunwagons, walkers advance and run, trukks either hide T1 then move out T2 or the go straight for the throat.
Again, just a reminder, this is more an experiment list, but please let me know your thoughts

Its a unusual list, but looks like it could be quite fun

So the bike mounted Mek will be in the middle of the Gunwagons to shield them? If so you might have line of sight issues with the Shokk Attack from the 'Wagons getting in the way.

 grendel083 wrote:
Its a unusual list, but looks like it could be quite fun

So the bike mounted Mek will be in the middle of the Gunwagons to shield them? If so you might have line of sight issues with the Shokk Attack from the 'Wagons getting in the way.

ahh sadly i have to pick, Kff or SAG. Unless i go with the relic MFF from the suppliment.
But if i do go with KFF then it seems a whole lot of points invested in a unit which doesn't bring much else. Bike and KFF, so perhaps i should give him a killsaw

I'm currently in the middle of our local club's annual 40k tournament (2k, every Monday, lasting 8 weeks).

In my force I have a Big Mek on Blitz bike with KFF and Killsaw in a unit of 5 Deffkoptas. Little bit pricey but he's been doing really well. Being able to put some hurt on tough vehicles and get there quick is nice.

Shining moment was in game one, where he and his Kopta buddies charged a Reaver Titan turn 2 (who brings a Reaver? Seriously! ) and locked it in close combat for two rounds until the Tankbustas charged and took it down.

 grendel083 wrote:
I'm currently in the middle of our local club's annual 40k tournament (2k, every Monday, lasting 8 weeks).

In my force I have a Big Mek on Blitz bike with KFF and Killsaw in a unit of 5 Deffkoptas. Little bit pricey but he's been doing really well. Being able to put some hurt on tough vehicles and get there quick is nice.

Shining moment was in game one, where he and his Kopta buddies charged a Reaver Titan turn 2 (who brings a Reaver? Seriously! ) and locked it in close combat for two rounds until the Tankbustas charged and took it down.

ahahaa, Im now thinking, as I have about 60 pts spare, if I drop the big mek in MA thats in the gunwagon with the lootas (SNP to provide move and shoot - but in reality, I dont need to move the loota gunwagon T1, so I can keep it stationary and then move it T2, snapshots T2 should be fine), that then frees up another 75 pts or so.

With that 135 pts I could grab a couple koptas. Actually, A few ideas, let me know what you think.

Drop the warboss in the wagon with BC, drop Big mek in MA (230 pts left now) --> I could pick up 3 koptas (90 pts) and then a painboy on bike (165 pts), Leaving me about 60 pts to either add wargear or a few other units.

Drop the same so (230 pts)--> Pick up a Warboss, bike, DLS, PK (150) Then give him either Kopta support or warbike support with the remaining 80 pts.

Drop the same (230 pts) -->Painboy in with trukk boyz (50) Warboss bike, DLS, PK (150) and a single kopta to go with him (30).

Currently I think the KFF bike alone and the MA bigmek are just wasted, the MAmek is literally not worth it, I could add a second loota squad who stayed still backfield and even if they ran off the board turn 2 they would have done more than what the MA allowed the unit in the gunwagon to do. I Love the idea of a BC warboss, but again I doubt he'd be worth the 100pts when for an extra 50 I could stick him on a bike and give him a PK and let he really go wild. I am leaning towards the third option, as it gives me; 2x trukk boyz with painboy - 1 of which is a ard boyz unit, It gives me a DLS warboss on bike with a couple ablative wounds who can now also scout, he can potentially then just leave the unit to go bully while the kopta grabs objectives. It gives me just a whole load more threats, each of which isn't a deathstar and isn't clearly a prime target.

You have a spare HS slot in your second detachment, you could always take the Lootas 'wagon separately from the other two.

 grendel083 wrote:
You have a spare HS slot in your second detachment, you could always take the Lootas 'wagon separately from the other two.

This is true, I hadn't realised that.
My only fear would be that then the loota gunwagon would be first target. But il try it if I run into issues trying to keep in coherency. Out of interest, if you charge a squadron does the whole squadron get overwatch? Like if they charged the shoota boyz in the gunwagon, the boyz can overwatch but can the gitz and lootas???? I am assuming no... else otherwise we have a stupidly powerful Tau overwatch equivilant. I mean imagine overwatch being 20 shoota shots, 15 snazz shots and 10-30 loota shots.... yeh that can't possibly be a thing wayyy to good.

Hmm.. I hadn't actually thought of that.
Looking at the rules, I think the whole lot might be able to Overwatch. It is the squadron that's assaulted after all, hits against them will effect the whole squadron.

I'll set up a YMDC thread and see if anyone can find something.

Solar Shock wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
You have a spare HS slot in your second detachment, you could always take the Lootas 'wagon separately from the other two.

This is true, I hadn't realised that.
My only fear would be that then the loota gunwagon would be first target. But il try it if I run into issues trying to keep in coherency. Out of interest, if you charge a squadron does the whole squadron get overwatch? Like if they charged the shoota boyz in the gunwagon, the boyz can overwatch but can the gitz and lootas???? I am assuming no... else otherwise we have a stupidly powerful Tau overwatch equivilant. I mean imagine overwatch being 20 shoota shots, 15 snazz shots and 10-30 loota shots.... yeh that can't possibly be a thing wayyy to good.

Heck lootas. Put in some burnas in tha back wagon in this case

Make 'em do the burny dance

I've started a YMDC thread on this here.

That might be an interesting place for combi-skorcha nobz, actually! What's better, 2 s4 ap5 templates or 1 s5 ap4? Though, nobz have 1-use only skorchas.

 koooaei wrote:
That might be an interesting place for combi-skorcha nobz, actually! What's better, 2 s4 ap5 templates or 1 s5 ap4? Though, nobz have 1-use only skorchas.

Where are you getting the different value templates from?
Are you saying burnas in back wagon with 2 burnas and rest KMB's? Vs a Nob with kombi?


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Oh BeJESUS! they all get overwatch...

oh dear, oh dear. Gunwagons it is!

Solar Shock wrote:

 koooaei wrote:
That might be an interesting place for combi-skorcha nobz, actually! What's better, 2 s4 ap5 templates or 1 s5 ap4? Though, nobz have 1-use only skorchas.

Where are you getting the different value templates from?

The correct answer is 'BOTH'