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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:04:08
Subject: Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Alright so guys, just wondering here, how many of you guys and gals paint most or all of your armies? I can boast an almost entirely painted Chaos Marine army (3585 points) with 2 oblits, 10 regular marines and 10 raptors requiring attention. I seem to be the only player that fields such an army at my local gaming store. There's 1 or 2 other guys who have entirely painted armies but they collect, they don't play any games.
Most of these people though that don't have painted armies are between the ages of 25 to 40 and they work a lot of jobs, so buying units and playing 40k consumes a lot of their time and money, understandably they don't have the time to paint it all and they don't have the money to hire somebody to paint it all. I'm 19, have been painting since I was 12, so I have the luxury to do it. I paint my dads nids for money amd that's mainly how Iearned to paint so well. I have a feeling when I get older I won't be so lucky...
So for you guys, how many of you have managed to paint most if not all of your army?
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"Glory to the Iron father!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:08:34
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Douglas Bader
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Everything is painted before it goes on the gaming table. Even it takes months to finish a new tank I want to use I'm still not going to lower my standards and play with unpainted models. And TBH if you don't paint your models to at least a basic standard I'm probably going to judge you for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:16:10
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Peregrine wrote:Everything is painted before it goes on the gaming table. Even it takes months to finish a new tank I want to use I'm still not going to lower my standards and play with unpainted models. And TBH if you don't paint your models to at least a basic standard I'm probably going to judge you for it.
I honestly like playing painted armies a lot more than basic grey non painted armies because you can distinguish certain units from eachother like, SMs, you can notice Sternguards with their white helmets (assuming the said person paints them as a codex chapter) and not get them confused with regular marines. Stuff like that but again, 40k is an expensive hobby, I would love to play an entirely painted army (aside from my brother) at my LGS, but a lot of people can't get it done merely because of the time and money.
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"Glory to the Iron father!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:16:14
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
california
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Judge away good sir. Purchased 15,000 points of orks and only about 1/3 are painted. It'll take me a long time to paint that many orks. Doesn't bug me one bit. Ridiculous that you'd judge someone you're playing because they wanna use a model. Your standards aren't theirs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:20:24
Subject: Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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And I do agree, my units aren't used unless they are painted. I like seeing my painted army assembled for battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:20:52
Subject: Painted armies
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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Nerve damage has relegated me to relying solely on commission painting services, and that also has changed the way I buy and paint armies.
I rarely can just buy a new thing and slap it in on the fly. I tend to buy in large pieces, and have a commission artist lined up ahead of time for that piece. So I only field painted armies, but that is mostly a factor of necessity because I don't buy units and stuff unless I have the painting work lined up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:23:36
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Douglas Bader
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Pain4Pleasure wrote:Purchased 15,000 points of orks and only about 1/3 are painted. It'll take me a long time to paint that many orks.
Who cares how long it takes to paint 15,000 points? Paint 2,000 points that you'll actually use in a game and finish the rest whenever. In fact, since you've got ~5,000 points painted already you have no reason to ever use unpainted models outside of large Apocalypse games (which aren't really worth playing anyway).
Your standards aren't theirs.
No, but I'm playing a game with them and having unpainted models on the table significantly reduces my enjoyment of the game. And given how easy it is to do a basic base + wash + drybrush paint job playing with unpainted armies is essentially saying "I don't care how much you enjoy this game, I'd rather save 15 minutes".
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:24:17
Subject: Painted armies
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Ship's Officer
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Everyone know painted models roll hits better, though they tend to die first too. I field my armies fully painted unless I just got them; I love to face a fully painted army as well, though I be alright if they aren't or WIP.
The part I can't stand is people having models for months on end and they're still at the same stage, no progress; at that point I refuse to play against them until they have it moving.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:24:38
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Pain4Pleasure wrote:Judge away good sir. Purchased 15,000 points of orks and only about 1/3 are painted. It'll take me a long time to paint that many orks. Doesn't bug me one bit. Ridiculous that you'd judge someone you're playing because they wanna use a model. Your standards aren't theirs.
Hm, 1/3 of your army? So I assume you could easily play a 3,000 point battle with painted models then ay? I do admit, painting horde armies is tough, I have like uhhh, 106 models I think? My dad has like, over 300, at least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:27:41
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
california
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Yes I could, and mostly I do, even going as far as using grots at times. However sometime I like to field my deff dreads which only one is painted, my favorite thing is kan wall so the formation is awesome to use for me. But none of my kand are painted, I just finished my morkanaut, so the dreads will be next then the kans. I refuse to not use models though, as at least I'm progressively painting them and not just constantly playing the same grey plastic with no new advancements.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:28:00
Subject: Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Big Mac wrote:Everyone know painted models roll hits better, though they tend to die first too. I field my armies fully painted unless I just got them; I love to face a fully painted army as well, though I be alright if they aren't or WIP.
The part I can't stand is people having models for months on end and they're still at the same stage, no progress; at that point I refuse to play against them until they have it moving.
Haha, yea, I know what you mean. First time I played with unpainted models was the 3 oblits I bought last week, but I was just way too excited. I painted one fully and the other two were primed black.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:35:52
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
california
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Peregrine wrote:Pain4Pleasure wrote:Purchased 15,000 points of orks and only about 1/3 are painted. It'll take me a long time to paint that many orks.
Who cares how long it takes to paint 15,000 points? Paint 2,000 points that you'll actually use in a game and finish the rest whenever. In fact, since you've got ~5,000 points painted already you have no reason to ever use unpainted models outside of large Apocalypse games (which aren't really worth playing anyway).
Your standards aren't theirs.
No, but I'm playing a game with them and having unpainted models on the table significantly reduces my enjoyment of the game. And given how easy it is to do a basic base + wash + drybrush paint job playing with unpainted armies is essentially saying "I don't care how much you enjoy this game, I'd rather save 15 minutes".
Yeah, no. This isn't how I paint. I do one model at a time. I have ocd. I use paints at my disposal to put as much detail as I can on my models. Even my boys. My friends say "but their in a mass horde, no one is gonna care for detail on them" But idc, it's how I paint. An ork boy typically takes me 40 minutes to complete to my satisfaction. I have a pregnant wife and 3 kids, and a job as well. I try to do a few models every week. It'll get done when it's done. I stated before, I refuse to not use models I have paid for. Especially since I'm not just "saving 15 minutes"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:36:22
Subject: Painted armies
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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I don't usually buy minis I know I can't finish painting; I however am a big sucker for alleged exclusive or rare stuffs like very old 40K minis or about-to-go-the-way-of-the-doodoos ranges or the campaign sets.
So I've got a bunch of DAs and BAs hanging around that I have just scratched their chapter liveries off and only half of them painted (I did converted the Shield of Baal dread into a decently close-looking magnetized SW dread, so that felt good). And I've got all the metal assassins I haven't touched.
Sad thing is, I'm also think about starting a IG/AM army...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:43:10
Subject: Painted armies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Since I made the switch from power gamer to collector I've started to get my paintbrushes out. Just finished my first Ork boy and while I've still got to touch him up to make him acceptable to my standard (granted I'm a beginner painter so will probably go in store to aask for help), I'm more proud of that one model out of the rest of my base coated armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:44:41
Subject: Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I paint pretty fast, I can get 2 regular Chaos Marines done in an hour. Haha, forgefiend on the other hand? Ehh, took me 3 or 4 dedicated hours of work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:45:19
Subject: Painted armies
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Fixture of Dakka
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Everything i field is painted, although i have lots of stuff unpainted, but i don't like unpainted stuff on the gaming table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:48:10
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Douglas Bader
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And you have a right to do that. I'm still going to judge you for it.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:48:40
Subject: Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Frozocrone wrote:Since I made the switch from power gamer to collector I've started to get my paintbrushes out. Just finished my first Ork boy and while I've still got to touch him up to make him acceptable to my standard (granted I'm a beginner painter so will probably go in store to aask for help), I'm more proud of that one model out of the rest of my base coated armies.
You should get to be good at it soon, just requires a ton of patience. If your LGS owner paints you could ask him/her for advice. My guy actually gave me good advice on my models. Painted Blood Angel terminators and boy were they bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:49:47
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
california
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Peregrine wrote:
And you have a right to do that. I'm still going to judge you for it.
As I you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 07:53:47
Subject: Painted armies
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Apart from the first odd GW demo game with just-bought models, never fielded an unpainted army.
Been working on an ork army for a year and only just fielded it, as it took so long to get the first 60 boyz, 3 battlewagons and all the walkers painted.
Would be majorly pissed off if someone turned up for a game and their army was unpainted. Would far rather face a cheese list that left my Boyz as cinders, if it was well painted.
You can argue aesthetics don't matter but they do, as they do in practically every other area of life. Don't expect excellence, but I expect my opponent to care.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:27:40
Subject: Painted armies
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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At my LGS (4TK Gaming) during tournaments now, the rules are that all of your models should be based and painted.
If there are some models used on the day that don't meet the standard, you get preferred enemy against them.
Games are just nicer to play when everything's painted.
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We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.
Chaos Knights: 2000 PTS
Thousand Sons: 2000 PTS - In Progress
Tyranids: 2000 PTS
Adeptus Mechanicus: 2000 PTS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:30:47
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Dakka Veteran
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Peregrine wrote:Everything is painted before it goes on the gaming table. Even it takes months to finish a new tank I want to use I'm still not going to lower my standards and play with unpainted models. And TBH if you don't paint your models to at least a basic standard I'm probably going to judge you for it.
I have an IG army, out of 7 models painting (some are WIP, those are the only ones that don't see play, because I don't want to add fingerprints under the paint), I have some half assembled wyverns, seeing play every time, and I'd love to play against you or just show pictures just to annoy you. Not personally you, just this uptight frame of mind.
Edit: while I'd love to play with fully painted army, I try to do it right, I'm not a fan of TTQ (which mostly means coloring between the lines and most of the times is just ugly), so I try to do my best, which is a slow process (and still learning how to paint). It takes time. I'd rather play a plastic army or some ugly, rushed TTQ. Ofc I have my limits as a painter, so likely it won't be better at all than TTQ, but I want to try at least.
I agree that playing with/against a well painted army is way better than with/against half assembled plastic, and I understand if people have a problem with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:31:23
Subject: Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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obsidianaura wrote:At my LGS (4TK Gaming) during tournaments now, the rules are that all of your models should be based and painted.
If there are some models used on the day that don't meet the standard, you get preferred enemy against them.
Games are just nicer to play when everything's painted.
Wow, that's creative actually. Should encourage players to paint their armies for sure
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:32:43
Subject: Painted armies
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I don't actually know anyone who plays an unpainted army. At my FLGS, we have hard barn-raisings where we helped new players paint their armies to get them on the table quicker.
With regards to buying a painted army, I know people who have bought specific pieces, but no one who had their entire army painted for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:33:00
Subject: Painted armies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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obsidianaura wrote:At my LGS (4TK Gaming) during tournaments now, the rules are that all of your models should be based and painted.
If there are some models used on the day that don't meet the standard, you get preferred enemy against them.
Games are just nicer to play when everything's painted.
This is exactly the same at my home addresses club (my friend was livid when he found this out and refuses to play in store now).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:37:52
Subject: Painted armies
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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Lord Tarkin wrote: obsidianaura wrote:At my LGS (4TK Gaming) during tournaments now, the rules are that all of your models should be based and painted.
If there are some models used on the day that don't meet the standard, you get preferred enemy against them.
Games are just nicer to play when everything's painted.
Wow, that's creative actually. Should encourage players to paint their armies for sure
It works really well actually and makes everyone step up their painting skills. Plus they've stopped giving awards for 2nd and 3rd. Now it's 1st place and best painted.
You can take a look at the last torny here http://4tkgaming.co.uk/cog%201750%20(may%202015).html their website isn't brilliant but you can see the quality of the armies there.
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We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.
Chaos Knights: 2000 PTS
Thousand Sons: 2000 PTS - In Progress
Tyranids: 2000 PTS
Adeptus Mechanicus: 2000 PTS
Adeptus Custodes: 2000 PTS - In Progress |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:43:24
Subject: Painted armies
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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My Skaven can't be placed on bases until they are fully painted becuase they are on clear plastic. It's forced me to man up and paint the whole army just to be able to play with it.
On a different note;
That white 4TK Gaming Necron army has a FLAWLESS white finish. I'm gonna guess airbrush?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:48:52
Subject: Painted armies
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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Purifier wrote:My Skaven can't be placed on bases until they are fully painted becuase they are on clear plastic. It's forced me to man up and paint the whole army just to be able to play with it.
On a different note;
That white 4TK Gaming Necron army has a FLAWLESS white finish. I'm gonna guess airbrush?
Yeah I think so, with some gloss too. I'd not seen the army before that day, plus didn't play him so didn't get a chance to ask.
Here's mine though
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We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.
Chaos Knights: 2000 PTS
Thousand Sons: 2000 PTS - In Progress
Tyranids: 2000 PTS
Adeptus Mechanicus: 2000 PTS
Adeptus Custodes: 2000 PTS - In Progress |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 08:56:58
Subject: Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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obsidianaura wrote: Lord Tarkin wrote: obsidianaura wrote:At my LGS (4TK Gaming) during tournaments now, the rules are that all of your models should be based and painted.
If there are some models used on the day that don't meet the standard, you get preferred enemy against them.
Games are just nicer to play when everything's painted.
Wow, that's creative actually. Should encourage players to paint their armies for sure
It works really well actually and makes everyone step up their painting skills. Plus they've stopped giving awards for 2nd and 3rd. Now it's 1st place and best painted.
You can take a look at the last torny here http://4tkgaming.co.uk/cog%201750%20(may%202015).html their website isn't brilliant but you can see the quality of the armies there.
Yess, love those beautifully painted armies, glorious. Your LGS is awesome man
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/26 09:32:33
Subject: Re:Painted armies
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Here's my best jobs so far
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