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I found a flgs 10 miles away i did not know about. I played a match to demonstrate and sell my guys but the kid only had 500 pts. I was not prepared for a small game where I could not bring most of my special and heavy guns. There were simply not enough room to upgrade.
So my plan is to create several 250-500pts modules

Having sold my sorc and the 20 cultist and adl+quad gun it puts me at a predicament. I can no longer min max. I am not about to go out and buy it again. In fact, i will ignore all suggestions to buy new units. the goal is to optimization of what i have in order to show and sell.

List of what I have

10 melta gun marines
4+1 scratch built plasma gunner. I also scratch built 5 more plasmagun on neck chains
5 flame gunners

15 termi/oblitz

3 squads of havocs with 4 ac (12 hvy guns and 3 champs)

20 blood letters (prospective buyer, cross my fingers so they maybe sold)
16 kb (sales pending. I hope sale goes good)

1 rhino
1 pred that is magnetized to be rhino

Off brand Deamon Prince. Wingless but i think I van scratch build 2 turbines to make him look like a iron warrior dp
1 dreadnought
1 helbrute on sprues
1 drake that does not belong in a 500pts game

lists:


Module 1 compulsory: focus on gun line
Lord, MoN, @80

5 PM, 2 plasmagun @150
5 pm, 2 plasmagun @ 150

5 Havocs, 4 ac@115
total=495 maybe meltabomb on lord?

Module 1a add on 250pts option

5 havocs, 4 ac@ 115
5 havocs, 4 ac@ 115
Add 1 havoc and the other squad takes 5pts of votlw

Mod 1b add on 250pts option
3 oblitz, MoN@ 228
can be split as pair and singleton due to 1 hvy slot already occupied
22pts for HQ upgrade: What should this lord take?

Mod 1c add on 250 pts option
termicide, combi gun@110
termicide, combi gun @110
add 1 guy for total of 251
Same models as the scratch built oblitz so maybe some conflict
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Mod 2 compulsory focus on melee
Lord, MoK, lightning claw ( dont have juggernaut model)@95

8 kb, rhino, dirge caster@202
8 kb, rhino, dirge caster@202

Total=499

Mod2a addon
DP! MoS or Mok or MoN? power armor, wings?
Best i know of is DP of Nurgle, armor, wings, black mace@265pts
I would have to take away Lord's Lightning claw to make him fit

Mod2b1 addon
I dont have spawns at the moment but I can scratcb build them and their bases.
5 spawns, MoN@180
2 spawns, MoN@ 72
total=252

Mod2b2 variation
3 spawns, MoN@108
4 spawns, MoN@144
total@252

Mod2b3 variation
3 spawns@90
3spawns @90
2 spawns@60
total @ 240

Mod2c
???Daemon kin???
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Mod3 focus on plasma
Lord @ 65

5 csm, plasmagun@90
5 csm, plasmagun@90

5 Chosen, 4 plasma gun@150
5 Chosen, 4 flamers@110
Total=505 can drop 1 flamer or downgrade lord to stand in sorc

mod3a variation
Lord, melta bomb@70

5 csm, flamer@80
5csm, flamer@ 80

5 chosen, 3 plasma gun@ 135
5 chosen, 3 plasmagun @ 135
total 500

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Mod 4 focus on anti tank
Lord, Melta bomb@70

5 Csm, meltagun@85
5 csm, meltagun@85

Chosen, 4 Meltaguns @130
chosen, 4 Meltaguns @130
total@500

Mod 4a addon
2 rhino for chosens@70
termicide, combi melta@110
oblit@70

omg. 50pts is crucial in a 500pt game!

Sorc@60
5csm@75
5csm@75
total= 210

vs

Sorc@60
10 cultist @50
10 cultist @50
total=160

If i run 2 squads of csm, should i give them plasmagun just so they are usefull?

Take all comers 500pts
Sorc@60
5 csm, plasmagun@90
5 csm, plasmagun@90

oblitz, MoN@ 76
oblitz, MoN@ 76
oblitz, MoN@ 76

Rhino @35 for sorc+5 csm squad

total= 503

I tend to favor MoN at low points due to its resilience. Low model count but FNP is too great to pass up

what?
Did you think Obliterator with MoN granted FnP?
MoN only grants +1 Toughness.

No I was referring to your MON list at the top with the plague marines.

I Am sorry, but i sm still confused because plague marines already have MoN.