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So does Str D still strip d3 hull points on rolls of 2s-5s?
So does Str D rolls of 6s strip d6+6 hull points?

I thought Invincible behemoth nerfed the 6s into d3.

 Filch wrote:
So does Str D still strip d3 hull points on rolls of 2s-5s?
So does Str D rolls of 6s strip d6+6 hull points?

I thought Invincible behemoth nerfed the 6s into d3.

Yes, and yes.


The Invincible Behemoth states how results on the vehicle damage table apply to super-heavies so doesn't tie in with the results of rolling on the d-weapon table (until the point you get a pen and check to see what it does).



Regards

what I ment was str d shooting or hitting a super heavy walker with the rule invincible behemoth.

I read this article and was still confused.

http://atomicspud40k.blogspot.com/2014/05/how-do-d-weapons-work-in-7th-edition.html?m=1

at the end he says that 2s-5s only take off 1hp
But does a 6s still strip off 6 hp?

 Filch wrote:
what I ment was str d shooting or hitting a super heavy walker with the rule invincible behemoth.

I read this article and was still confused.

http://atomicspud40k.blogspot.com/2014/05/how-do-d-weapons-work-in-7th-edition.html?m=1

at the end he says that 2s-5s only take off 1hp
But does a 6s still strip off 6 hp?

The author of the article states that best case, on a 2-5 a super heavy 'may only lose a single hull point' which is true (i.e. you roll 1 on the d3).

The Invincible Behemoth rule does not prevent the results when you roll a 6 on the D weapon chart, so a super heavy vehicle (walker or tank or whatever else there may be) will still suffer the full result.

I think I am still in the denial stage of grief.

It's a bit worse, actually. A D hit is still an AP2 penetrating hit, which means a roll on the Vehicle Pen table at a +1, and a possible chance at exploding for an addition d3 hull points.

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
It's a bit worse, actually. A D hit is still an AP2 penetrating hit, which means a roll on the Vehicle Pen table at a +1, and a possible chance at exploding for an addition d3 hull points.

SJ

Most strength D attacks may be AP 1 or 2, but it will go on the weapon profile rather than being an inherent bonus.



Regards

Bellyfluff wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
It's a bit worse, actually. A D hit is still an AP2 penetrating hit, which means a roll on the Vehicle Pen table at a +1, and a possible chance at exploding for an addition d3 hull points.

SJ

Most strength D attacks may be AP 1 or 2, but it will go on the weapon profile rather than being an inherent bonus.



Regards

Not sure if you were attempting to or correct.

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:

Bellyfluff wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
It's a bit worse, actually. A D hit is still an AP2 penetrating hit, which means a roll on the Vehicle Pen table at a +1, and a possible chance at exploding for an addition d3 hull points.

SJ

Most strength D attacks may be AP 1 or 2, but it will go on the weapon profile rather than being an inherent bonus.



Regards

Not sure if you were attempting to or correct.

SJ

There is nothing make D weapons AP2. Its possible for there to be a D weapon thats AP- or AP1

I am desperately trying to find a loop hole or some sort of rules lawyering to see Str D getting nerfed by invincible behemoth ruling...

Sorry,
The Invincible Behemoth Special Rule triggers on destroyed, wrecked, Explodes! or is otherwise removed from play and mentions nothing about negating weapons that strip more then one Hull Point per hit.

Anger->Denial->sadness->bargaining -> acceptance->

 CrownAxe wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:

Bellyfluff wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
It's a bit worse, actually. A D hit is still an AP2 penetrating hit, which means a roll on the Vehicle Pen table at a +1, and a possible chance at exploding for an addition d3 hull points.

SJ

Most strength D attacks may be AP 1 or 2, but it will go on the weapon profile rather than being an inherent bonus.



Regards

Not sure if you were attempting to or correct.

SJ

There is nothing make D weapons AP2. Its possible for there to be a D weapon thats AP- or AP1

Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Can you please give me an example of a D weapon to isn't AP 1 or 2?

SJ

To my knowledge, no such weapon exists yet, but it still doesn't mean Ap2 is inherently part of D.

 jeffersonian000 wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:

Bellyfluff wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
It's a bit worse, actually. A D hit is still an AP2 penetrating hit, which means a roll on the Vehicle Pen table at a +1, and a possible chance at exploding for an addition d3 hull points.

SJ

Most strength D attacks may be AP 1 or 2, but it will go on the weapon profile rather than being an inherent bonus.



Regards

Not sure if you were attempting to or correct.

SJ

There is nothing make D weapons AP2. Its possible for there to be a D weapon thats AP- or AP1

Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Can you please give me an example of a D weapon to isn't AP 1 or 2?

SJ

The Transcendent C'tan from escalation has the Transliminal Stride that is Str D with ap-. Not really a 'current' example since the new necron codex but was shortly an example that was once an option in 7th.