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The internet would lead you to believe this mystical feat was impossible, but lo and behold, many of the UK's finest showed up, squared off (with circle bases none-the-less!) and had an absolute blast.

http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=130639

Anyone able to chime in who was actually at Clash of Swords? I really hope others in the US scene take note and realize that not only is there a contingent of folks interested in AoS... you CAN actually run a successful event!

On a related note... we are running Age of Sigmar events at NOVA September 4th, 5th, and 6th! We already have a bunch of folks signed up, with a casual night of gaming with some kickass scenarios and prizes lined up for Friday, as well as a more structured tournament on Saturday. Check out more details here: http://www.novaopen.com/?page_id=6670 and if you are in the area, feel free to just swing on by! We have space reserved for open gaming and demonstrations, and are welcoming same-day registrations if you want to play in either event!

Yea if you add restrictions and points costs and custom scenarios AOS can be fun sure. I don't think anybody is denying that. In fact I think most people would say AOS is on the right track, it just needs structure and clarification.

That's why the tournament organizer put in work to make the game playable. Imagine how much fun it would have been if they played the game by the rules... The rules as they are however are bad, otherwise, why did the tournament need to implement changes?

Looked like fun though, some pictures would be cool.

Hello from the internet. I am glad that people had fun!

I'm still not converting to circle bases though. Square 4 life.

 Swastakowey wrote:
Yea if you add restrictions and points costs and custom scenarios AOS can be fun sure. I don't think anybody is denying that. In fact I think most people would say AOS is on the right track, it just needs structure and clarification.

Been saying this since the day the rules leaked. Personally didn't have fun with AoS until I found a solid comp system, but I've been having a blast since. Though even then, plenty of folks have been saying AoS is great even without comp, so I find OP's implied claim to be somewhat unjustified.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
Yea if you add restrictions and points costs and custom scenarios AOS can be fun sure. I don't think anybody is denying that. In fact I think most people would say AOS is on the right track, it just needs structure and clarification.

Been saying this since the day the rules leaked. Personally didn't have fun with AoS until I found a solid comp system, but I've been having a blast since. Though even then, plenty of folks have been saying AoS is great even without comp, so I find OP's implied claim to be somewhat unjustified.

I agree and you worded it better than I did.

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Impossible! Inconceivable! There is no way Age of Sigmar could possibly be fun! The Interwebz and "They" say so!

The only thing that makes me sad is this incessant desire/need by certain players to have a composition and/or points system before they will even try the game. Or they will play it once, and declare the game unplayable without a comp system or points or some other limiting factor (wounds warscrolls, whatever).

 Tamwulf wrote:
Impossible! Inconceivable! There is no way Age of Sigmar could possibly be fun! The Interwebz and "They" say so!

The only thing that makes me sad is this incessant desire/need by certain players to have a composition and/or points system before they will even try the game. Or they will play it once, and declare the game unplayable without a comp system or points or some other limiting factor (wounds warscrolls, whatever).

I know right, those silly people having fun wrong. People wanting to play competitive games clearly don't know what they are talking about.

More often I find people say it is playable, just not fun. Myself included. If players don't enjoy the game RAW but do enjoy it comped and decide to play that way, then why is that sad?

We have a league going on in our town. Play a couple escalation style games that get bigger as the weeks go on. The store is using its own comp rules and we so far, have been having a lot of fun.

As far as comp rules go, I think they are almost mandatory at this point. Especially if you can't eyeball a force and decide if it looks about fair before a game. I've been on the bad end of a player who just wouldn't stop putting down units because he already had a sudden death. So he piled the board with almost four times the models I had, and he wasn't playing a horde army... Lesson learned, though. I'll never play that person again.

But I've had far more positive experiences than bad ones. Met some cool people at this league who all want AoS to succeed as much as me, and we are all aware that this first try at an organized play system is as much a test as anything else. I'm having fun, the other players are having fun, the store organizer is having fun, I think you get the picture.

I hope the tournament scene in the U.S. picks up, or starts rather, as well. I was waiting to hear how Clash of Swords went and I'm really glad it went well. Looking forward to more details!

These people should be BURNED.

My and my mates are going up to GW's AoS event next month - will try to remember to get some pics and do a report!

MongooseMatt wrote:
My and my mates are going up to GW's AoS event next month - will try to remember to get some pics and do a report!

If you could get definitive answers on the "2 weapons = double attacks" and "do you need to set up a unit to be able to summon a similar unit later" debates, that should halve the "You make da call" forum traffic for a while...

...and something definitive on stacking abilities and spells (eg, Mystic Shield).

A quick note on that one - nowhere in AoS does it say things do not stack (presume they do) and, interesting, nowhere does it say a 1 is always a fail. Which is interesting for, say, big units of Zombies.

I would be of the belief that both are intentional, but I'll ask around next month!

Well, this is not really astonishing. The game is fun due to the simple rule set.
We haven't yet played in an event. But we will do in Sept.

 jonolikespie wrote:

I know right, those silly people having fun wrong. People wanting to play competitive games clearly don't know what they are talking about.

Let's I think the point was that AoS does things a bit differently, and even if you like your games one way, if you go into Age of Sigmar with an open mind and a willingness to branch out from your comfort zone, you may enjoy the game regardless of your initial biases. You could say that about ANY game. But some particularly loud AoS deniers haven't done this - intentionally! - and they may have robbed themselves of a beneficial experience for the purposes of staying grumpy.

Do you feel this is a incorrect assessment?

quiestdeus wrote:
The internet would lead you to believe this mystical feat was impossible, but lo and behold, many of the UK's finest showed up, squared off (with circle bases none-the-less!) and had an absolute blast.

And only twenty-two pages of comp!

Not to shabby for a four-page rule set!

I suppose it shows that AoS can be made into some kind of balanced format.


Which is what I want, I miss my old warriors of chaos army.

Avian wrote:


And only twenty-two pages of comp!

Not to shabby for a four-page rule set!

Exactly. When they are talking about AOS (this event) and I'm talking about AOS (out of the box) played at my FLGS, we're not talking about the same game.

Very happy Clash went off so well, will try to dig up some player reports ....

quiestdeus wrote:
On a related note... we are running Age of Sigmar events at NOVA September 4th, 5th, and 6th! We already have a bunch of folks signed up, with a casual night of gaming with some kickass scenarios and prizes lined up for Friday, as well as a more structured tournament on Saturday. Check out more details here: http://www.novaopen.com/?page_id=6670 and if you are in the area, feel free to just swing on by! We have space reserved for open gaming and demonstrations, and are welcoming same-day registrations if you want to play in either event!

And good luck with the NOVA AOS! I dig the comp pack, particularly as it doesn't involve a pool system. The only thing I feel might be missing is a unit wounds cap? I've been going with 30 in my local comps - allows serious bonuses to big units of infantry, while limiting how imba my Ironguts can be

- Salvage

 Swastakowey wrote:
In fact I think most people would say AOS is on the right track, it just needs structure and clarification.

I wouldn't.... I think they should have stuck to a regimental based game at the core and introduced supplementary rules for a skirmish game. If I wanted to play another loose formation skirmish game I'd pick one of the several others that are popular. I played WHFB precisely for the reason that it was a popular regimental game, not in spite of it

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
In fact I think most people would say AOS is on the right track, it just needs structure and clarification.

I wouldn't.... I think they should have stuck to a regimental based game at the core and introduced supplementary rules for a skirmish game. If I wanted to play another loose formation skirmish game I'd pick one of the several others that are popular. I played WHFB precisely for the reason that it was a popular regimental game, not in spite of it

Agreed.

 Boss Salvage wrote:
Very happy Clash went off so well, will try to dig up some player reports ....

quiestdeus wrote:
On a related note... we are running Age of Sigmar events at NOVA September 4th, 5th, and 6th! We already have a bunch of folks signed up, with a casual night of gaming with some kickass scenarios and prizes lined up for Friday, as well as a more structured tournament on Saturday. Check out more details here: http://www.novaopen.com/?page_id=6670 and if you are in the area, feel free to just swing on by! We have space reserved for open gaming and demonstrations, and are welcoming same-day registrations if you want to play in either event!

And good luck with the NOVA AOS! I dig the comp pack, particularly as it doesn't involve a pool system. The only thing I feel might be missing is a unit wounds cap? I've been going with 30 in my local comps - allows serious bonuses to big units of infantry, while limiting how imba my Ironguts can be

- Salvage

Thank you!!!

Yeah, having reviewed a lot of the other approaches popping up there are a few things I would have done differently in the pack, but hindsight, you know? I would not say we put our rules together at the last second, but maybe the last minute

A bunch of the sign-ups have sent emails about how excited they are, so it should be a pretty fun event and I am sure we will learn quite a bit - knowledge which we can use to make next year all the better!

Surprise, everyone said that AoS with additonal comp rules would be a good idea. Turns out, the internet was right...again.

22 pages of comp. Hint: this is exactly what everyone talking about AoS was going for.

Looks like you shot yourself in the foot with this thread, heh.

AoS is fun. I just wish they hadn't ditched Warhammer in favour of it.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
AoS is fun. I just wish they hadn't ditched Warhammer in favour of it.

I played in an AOS event on Saturday (very lightly comped with even lighter house rules) and thoroughly enjoyed myself. We talked about the turbulent state of AOS a little before getting started, and all of us agreed that a huge part of the ongoing poop-storm surrounding AOS came about because the new game was released as 8E was so viciously sacked. A better sense of timing and a little decorum would have gone a long ways on all fronts.

- Salvage

It just doesn't make sense from a marketing point of view. Just hosting it as your 3rd game would have been the perfect solution as you'd not only not alienate veterans, you'd also have a game for people to pick up (AoS) and then another people could grow in (WHFB). Ye know, kinda like War of the Ring / Hobbit. Ye know, the other game GW abandoned...and actually had very decent, dare I even say /good/, rules.

Fun? HERESY.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
AoS is fun. I just wish they hadn't ditched Warhammer in favour of it.

Yeah, I can't help but think that AoS would have received a much less hostile reception if it was released as an alternate way to use your WHFB figures, rather than as a replacement for that game.

The fact that people are having fun with AoS doesn't surprise me at all. There have been plenty of positive comments about it... the snide remarks about 'the internet' having a negative view of the game overlook that.

For those who wanted a free-form, loose-formation, fantasy skirmish game, who aren't too concerned about game balance, and who weren't particularly invested in WHFB, I'm sure it's fine.