Do you ever wish you had started a different army instead?

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**casvalremdeikun**

So I own two armies that are effectively complete (not buying anything more for them). I have spent several hundreds of dollars on my Crimson Fists (which are nearing completion. I just have to finish painting them and modeling a few things) and my Blood Angels (will be finishing assembly on them and painting them as soon as my Crimson Fists are complete), but I kinda wish I had started Space Wolves instead of either army. I do have the Space Wolf half of the Stormclaw set, so I obviously could start a Space Wolves army, but I am pretty sure my wife would kill me. Don't get me wrong, I like my Crimson Fists A LOT, and look forward to fielding my completed army, but I have a little buyers remorse in not getting Space Wolves instead. I wanted a blue Space Marine army, and since Ultramarines are stupid and extra-Vanilla, I went with Crimson Fists instead.

At the time I was getting into the game, Space Wolves were just going to be coming out, and I wanted to start a more normal Space Marine army instead (my brother had picked up the 5th edition Space Marine Battleforce for me), so I ended up building Crimson Fists. But had I gone a different direction, I could have had him pick up the Space Wolves Battleforce that came with two packs of Grey Hunters, a Drop Pod, and a pack of Wolf Scouts. I am kind of ashamed of it, but I do like the wolf flyers too. And frickin' Thunderwolf Cavalry! Also, Bjorn. I love Bjorn.

I DEFINITELY have buyer's remorse when it comes to my Blood Angels. If I didn't already have a Codex: Space Marines army, I would want to run them as Red Marines. Their codex suffered greatly from the fact it came out just before the wave of Cheesedexes like Necrons Eldar,...C:SM, and probably Tau. They are so underpowered that I have a hard time even wanted to take the time to put them together at some point. They do have some shining points, such as the Death Company and Sanguinary Guard, but if I could go back, I would never even buy them, and buy into Space Wolves instead. I already had the Wolves half of Stormclaw at the point I started them. But I have already started them and assembled a good portion of the army. I love their aesthetic, with all of the blinged up armor. But I wanted an army that wasn't subpar to play with.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

**Quickjager**

I dream of never starting Grey Knights and having gone one of the big Xenos three. I'm in too deep and I'm not WAAC enough to do it.

**Lithlandis Stormcrow**

I sometimes have an urge to start a Dark Eldar Wych cult army... and then I look at the prices and stick to my Dark angels instead.

**Formosa**

Be patient mate, my deathwing and ravenwing were awful for 15+ years, now ravenwing are absolutely amazing, deathwing are still crap however, but I don't regret owning 100 termies (mix of metal and plastic), I love playing them against the odds, I win more than I lose with them thankfully.

**Lithlandis Stormcrow**

Formosa wrote:
Be patient mate, my deathwing and ravenwing were awful for 15+ years, now ravenwing are absolutely amazing, deathwing are still crap however, but I don't regret owning 100 termies (mix of metal and plastic), I love playing them against the odds, I win more than I lose with them thankfully.

Deathwing is very underestimated most of the times, and it makes every win with them twice as tasty

**TheManWithNoPlan**

I started with Eldar in 5th. I adored their models and loved painting them, also had a strong codex - which was a nice extra, rather than a necessity - and I loved them to bits, I bought loads, painted loads, and played loads. However after a year I was looking at other codecies, for some variety and after much uh-ming, ah-ing and looking at armies for inspiration, I started a small Chaos Space Marine force, because I sorely wanted to do some heavy conversions, and I found Eldar were too clean for my skills. I then expanded on that considerably as I loved them too. Dark Eldar came along as Allies for my Eldar.

I have other armies, that I do love, but I've never for a second doubted my Eldar.

**casvalremdeikun**

Formosa wrote:
Be patient mate, my deathwing and ravenwing were awful for 15+ years, now ravenwing are absolutely amazing, deathwing are still crap however, but I don't regret owning 100 termies (mix of metal and plastic), I love playing them against the odds, I win more than I lose with them thankfully.

Yeah, but while DA sucked majorly, BA haven't been much better, and now are significantly behind the way DA were. Honestly, an FAQ or two would bring them up to speed (fixing Scouts, Dreads, and giving their Tanks squadrons and squadron bonuses), but I am not going to hold my breath for that to happen. The last FAQ is ten months old now, and GW has nothing but contempt for the game side of their products.

My brother runs DA, so the new codex for them was quite the boost for him. He plays RW primarily (fields a squad or two of DW Knights), so I am afraid to even play him at the moment.

**Makumba**

yes. I wanted to play GKs, but there were alread 2 people playing them.

**casvalremdeikun**

Makumba wrote:
yes. I wanted to play GKs, but there were alread 2 people playing them.

What do you play instead? I forgot to mention that I really wanted to play Dark Angels if I decided against Space Wolves, but my brother played them, so they were a no go for me. I would have used Dark Vengeance as a basis for a Mixedwing army (probably would have used primarily Greenwing and Ravenwing).

**Lithlandis Stormcrow**

Makumba wrote:
yes. I wanted to play GKs, but there were alread 2 people playing them.

Please don't take this wrongly, but you should never stop from enjoying yourself because of the players nearby.

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casvalremdeikun wrote:
Makumba wrote:
yes. I wanted to play GKs, but there were alread 2 people playing them.
What do you play instead? I forgot to mention that I really wanted to play Dark Angels if I decided against Space Wolves, but my brother played them, so they were a no go for me. I would have used Dark Vengeance as a basis for a Mixedwing army (probably would have used primarily Greenwing and Ravenwing).

You can still do that. There's nothing wrong with it - DA's especially can field a variety of different armies (albeit at different power levels, alas).

Why not a fresh start?

**techsoldaten**

Way back in the day, around second edition, I started an Ultramarines army. I gave it up after seeing a World Eaters army and seeing how different the playstyle was and switched to CSMs.

Back then, Space Marines had all the heavy weapons, and CSMs had Daemons. There was a sense of balance, seeing Land Speeders and Juggernauts on the same table - each with their own advantages.

I have really only focused on CSMs ever since, with some dabbling in Orks and Imperial Guard along the way. If I had to do it all over, I would have stuck with Space Marines. The game has changed too much over the years and there's just something cooler about an elite mechanized force. GW has not done a good job managing the theme of the armies and can't seem to think in terms of how one force compliments another.

**casvalremdeikun**

Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Makumba wrote:
yes. I wanted to play GKs, but there were alread 2 people playing them.
What do you play instead? I forgot to mention that I really wanted to play Dark Angels if I decided against Space Wolves, but my brother played them, so they were a no go for me. I would have used Dark Vengeance as a basis for a Mixedwing army (probably would have used primarily Greenwing and Ravenwing).

You can still do that. There's nothing wrong with it - DA's especially can field a variety of different armies (albeit at different power levels, alas).

Why not a fresh start?

I don't want a fresh start. I do really like my Crimson Fists. I have invested a lot of time and money into them and really like the way they are shaping up. I am just saying that if, today was the day I was getting into the game, not a year+ ago, I would have started Space Wolves instead of Crimson Fists. I would probably have not even started Blood Angels at all, just started Space Wolves and only Space Wolves.

**oldzoggy**

yes the moment I opened up the new ork codex.

I would love to have 5000+ points of CSM + Deamons instead of my orks. It would still have been fun to build and convert but it would not be shelfed right now.

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I also wish from time to time that I started choas dwarfs a kislev a mainly deamonette army or huge warbands of mortheim / necromunda in the year 1998 instead of a bretonnia.army. those armies would would have been a goldmine right now.

**the_scotsman**

Yes. I had Necrons, because I wanted a robot/technological army that wasn't clean like tau. I loved the idea of the broken down, rusted, pitiful warriors...then 7th happened. Not only did that fluff get thrown out for more "FWUAAAAH THEYRE SO AWESOMEERRR" the new rules made it so it took 75 lasgun shots to down 1.

I shelved them, pretty unhappy, then AdMech came out.

Ebayed and sold all the Necrons, actually ended up getting more than I paid for them after a particularly sweet bidding war, and my new AdMech army was so thoroughly funded I could even go FW for a lot of alternate models.

**vipoid**

With the current codex, I regret buying IG.

I wish I'd either spent the money on marines, or else held off and bought some Warmachine or something.

**Carnith**

When me and my friends started, I was between Orks, Eldar, and Space Marines. I ended up choosing Space Marines but painted them Black Templars, but as I learned I don't really like how Templars play on the board with large man crusader squads, and small crusader squads are not really doing it for me, atm, so I wish I painted them my own scheme and just picked whatever tactics I wanted. I fin d my choice fine overall because I ended up picking up AdMech for a combined force of Imperium.

**SicSemperTyrannis**

I would exchange my 4k Points of Necrons for 4k Points of Khorne Daemonkin any day.

It´s just no fun anymore seeing your enemies struggle to kill your most basic units.

**casvalremdeikun**

Carnith wrote:
When me and my friends started, I was between Orks, Eldar, and Space Marines. I ended up choosing Space Marines but painted them Black Templars, but as I learned I don't really like how Templars play on the board with large man crusader squads, and small crusader squads are not really doing it for me, atm, so I wish I painted them my own scheme and just picked whatever tactics I wanted. I fin d my choice fine overall because I ended up picking up AdMech for a combined force of Imperium.

Well, if your Marines are just painted as Templars, you could always strip all of their paint off with Simple Green or Denatured Alcohol and repaint them as something different.

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SicSemperTyrannis wrote:
I would exchange my 4k Points of Necrons for 4k Points of Khorne Daemonkin any day.

It´s just no fun anymore seeing your enemies struggle to kill your most basic units.

I could definitely see that being disheartening. There is no fun in ALWAYS winning.

**Rune Stonegrinder**

end of 2nd ed and start of 3rd, when I first started, I had a solid Space Marine force, but I quickly sold it and started Eldar. Mostly, because Space Marines were the easy button and required no thought to win.

**jasper76**

I started with Necrons, and after a great many games with them (using the previous codex), eventually I became bored playing them all the time. I then started up a Tyranid army, because I always liked the models. Then sometime after that, 40k updated the ruleset after a whopping 2 years to 7th ed, and started re-re-releasing the re-released codices on seemingly a weekly basis (too fast for me to even want to try and keep up with).

I always intended to start a Space Marine army, but the rapid re-release cycle, DLC, etc. has turned me off to investing in 40k armies, as I'd feel a need to keep up with the new releases. So I went with Legion Marines, which are more attractive to me fluff-wise and rules-wise, and while the Legion Marine rules have gotten some minor updates since the Horus Heresy 1 book, the pace of change is much slower and less dramatic, and the changes themselves don't really invalidate any of the old rules.

**Hawkeye888**

I've had remorse/ended up not liking an army. Luckily you can usually find someone that wants to do a swap.

**Gangrel767**

I started with Eldar when the 2nd edition codex came out and have never regretted it. I have however bought several armies along side them, including Ultramarines, Chaos Marines, Space Wolves, Necrons, Imperial Knights. The only one I regretted purchasing was the Ultramarines, but this was back in 2nd edition and I just gave them to a buddy.

I have regretted getting rid of stuff though. I had traded away some of my Chaos marines, and Eldar over the years and often wished I had those models back.

Oddly enough, in Warhammer Fantasy I used to collect an army and regret it immediately, then trade it off with a friend. I did this with Chaos Warriors, which I traded for High Elves, which got traded for Lizardmen. Nothing ever recaptured the thrill of the my original WHFB arm, which was the original Undead before they split them. but that game is dead now.... just don't tell Mantic.

**PandaHero**

I want to switch army pretty much every day lol. I traded my RW for Tau about 2month ago. Now my Tau are up for trade/sell. No idea yet what I'm getting next.

I might lose a little money here and there, but that's the way I enjoy my hobby. I like to start new project. If I have a good price for my Tau, I might get a Wraithost this time around.

**Lord Yayula**

I sometimes wish I started a World Eaters army instead of Night Lords, they are both chaos and all but my first pick was probably World Eaters in the 3.5 dex era, the only downside is that I didn't like the special rule the zerks had that they had to always try to assault the closest enemy unit (iirc) or it was a chance I honestly don't remember and I found that a huge con in a supposedly tactic game so I decided to go Black Legion so that I could have a little taste of everything.

Sadly or fortunately when I went into the store to make my 1st WH buy the only CSM stuff left was a box of zerks and a box of Night Lords, picked both. Later realized you couldn't field both in the same army unless you went undivided/Black Legion, so I had to decide and went for the Night Lords, even thou raptors have never been the star unit of any codex I started to like their fluff and eventually went assembled my whole army around Night Lords. Later came 4th and removed the pure unmarked units restriction and that's when I started wondering what if...

**Selym**

I started as an Ultramarines player. *shudder*

Oh so much regret.

Converted to kayoss in rebellion.

Goddamn codex...

Now I'm IG. With a frustratingly poor codex that has everyone I play against telling me there's nothing wrong with it, because it *should* always lose to Space Marines.

And then I got into Black Templars so I could give a semi-ironic crotch punch to my regular Ultramarine opponent.

**KharnsRightHand**

I almost started Tyranids as my first army, but my friend who was more experienced convinced me not to because they were more difficult with synapse and everything. I know they're still not the highest performing army around (not that the CSM is either) but I'd love to have a huge swarm army with a few MCs here and there. It's not really buyer's remorse tough since I still love my Khorne marines and KDK, but I do kind of wish I had got Nids first sometimes.

**TheNewBlood**

When the Eldar hate gets really bad around here, I sometimes wish I was I who went for Chaos Marines instead of my old college roommate. Dark Eldar have always appealed to me as well due to their awesome models, but I had always heard that they were not a good army to start out with so I went for Eldar instead. Tau have an aesthetic that appeals to my inner anime fan, but I hate their lore.

Then I remember that I've never been "that guy" with my Eldar, and all my concerns magically disappear. Just like my opponent's units!

**Deadza**

Wanted to play Eldar Wraith or Necron in early 6th. Eldar were OP and I knew I would exploit that and then a friend chose Necron as his main...so I ended up Chaos Marines somehow.

Kinda regret it because terrible codex and very few units seem well thought out. But damn I love CSM style. I always assume Im going to lose though but end up winning more often than not through dumb/not so dumb luck.

I still plan someday to pick up Eldar or Necron

**Jackal**

I tend to chop and change armies on a monthly basis.
I've just learned not to sell any of them so I can keep adding g as I go.

I think the only 40k army I don't own is Eldar, as I was dumb enough to sell them and sisters.

**jasper76**

Why so much regret about Ultramarines? I've not seen the new codex yet, but their Chapter Tactics in the last codex seemed pretty legit to me.