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If i take a mek gun and miss with the scatter does the ammo runt allow a reroll on the scatter or the gets hot (if using the kustom mega kannon) or both? Can i choose to reroll the gets hot and this gives me a reroll on scatter or do i need to use an ammo runt to reroll the gets hot then another runt to reroll the scatter?

What does the Blast and Gets Hot rules say about rerolls?

Honestly, not enough on conditional rerolls.

Blasts that have reroll to hit reroll scatter.

Gets hot blasts that have reroll reroll the "gets hot result"(the 1 before firing).

But you do not have the reroll to hit until the ammo runt is used.

Gets hot blasts and ammo runts are a legitimate question in the rules.

The closest I can figure is that ammo runt and gets hot blast cannot reroll the gets hot result(can't use the ammo runt until you strike, cannot strike when you gets hot, gets hot lets you reroll the gets hot if you reroll the strike.)

This is very interesting, does an Ammo Runt let you reroll a Gets Hot blast, and if that is true does rerolling a Gets Hot blast consume the Ammo Runt.

That... Was exactly the question asked.

One use only. A model with an ammo runt can re-roll one To Hit roll when shooting.

The funny thing is that RAW you don't need to spend an ammo runt to re-roll something as it says "a model with an ammo runt". And actually, when you do use one, it stops giving you re-rolls emidiately cause you no longer have an ammo runt and thus don't meet requirement to be "a model with an ammo runt".

So, RAW, you simply get master-crafted for 3 pts. How i play it is that you spend an ammo runt to either re-roll a gets hot result or a scatter.


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If it was written "A model with an ammo runt can use it to re-roll..." but as now, you just get a 3 pt re-roll untill you want to spend it...for no good reason but orkiness.

 koooaei wrote:
One use only. A model with an ammo runt can re-roll one To Hit roll when shooting.

The funny thing is that RAW you don't need to spend an ammo runt to re-roll something as it says "a model with an ammo runt". And actually, when you do use one, it stops giving you re-rolls emidiately cause you no longer have an ammo runt and thus don't meet requirement to be "a model with an ammo runt".

So, RAW, you simply get master-crafted for 3 pts. How i play it is that you spend an ammo runt to either re-roll a gets hot result or a scatter.


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If it was written "A model with an ammo runt can use it to re-roll..." but as now, you just get a 3 pt re-roll untill you want to spend it...for no good reason but orkiness.

Someone who sees the RAW laid out the same way i did, causing this entire scenario to be brought to the fore in the first place. Mainly i was digging through my ork codex looking for things that would help them stay competitive in the face of eldar, khorne daemonkin, battle companies, and the like. I like Kustom Mega Kannons, and using ammo runts to keep them from overheating probably makes them the best artillery in the game.

 koooaei wrote:
The funny thing is that RAW you don't need to spend an ammo runt to re-roll something as it says "a model with an ammo runt". And actually, when you do use one, it stops giving you re-rolls emidiately cause you no longer have an ammo runt and thus don't meet requirement to be "a model with an ammo runt".

That isn't how "One Use Only" works.

Rules:

Because of the One Use Only rule, you can only use the ammo runt's ability once per game. Even though the Ammo Runt isn't technically consumed, it no longer grants its ability.




Now lets get down to answering the original question.

Rules:

The "Gets Hot" roll is part of Rolling to Hit. For a blast weapon, it is a single roll to hit. 1st your roll gets hot. If you roll a 1 you do not roll to scatter, the weapon didn't fire. If you roll a 2+ then you roll the scatter, but both the roll for "Gets Hot", and the Roll to Scatter are part of the "Roll to Hit".


Q. Can you reroll a "Gets Hot"?
A. Yes. Using an ammo runt allows you to reroll a single To Hit roll. The Gets Hot is part of that roll.

Q. Can you reroll a Scatter?
A. Yes. Using an ammo runt allows you to reroll a single To Hit roll. The Scatter is part of that roll.

Q. If I rerolled a "Gets Hot", can I reroll the scatter on that same To Hit roll?
A. Yes. Using an ammo runt allows you to reroll a single To Hit roll. You can reroll both parts on the turn you use an Ammo Runt.

Q. Can I use an Ammo Runt more than once?
A. No. The One Use Only rule means that the ability only works once per game.