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2015/12/17 15:34:03
Subject: [2000] - KDK + CSM Allies - Anyone have experience of 3x jugger lords? UPDATED, 2x new lists
Hey, so I really like Jugger lords and love Soul Grinders and have come up with this battle forged list shoe-horning as many of each is as poss.
Question is, is it any good?
CSM Allies
HQ- 175
lord, jugger, mark khorne, axe of blind fury, sigil, melta bombs
TROOPS- 50
10 x cultists
FAST- 170
heldrake, baleflamer
TOTAL 2001.
the basic idea for this army is each lord goes with a hound unit and rushes forward looking to engage asap (wanting the goredrinker lord to boost up before engaging harder targets)
the soul grinders move foward accompanied by a unit of letters each (or the letters could go in reserve dependant on mission) the cultists camp on any back field objectives waiting to get killed and the heldrake when he arrives looks to toast any cowards hiding in cover.
Viable or doomed?
thanks for the comments
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overkill is underated
2015/12/17 16:33:12
Subject: [2000] - KDK + CSM Allies - Anyone have experience of 3x jugger lords?
Viable but I question the survivability of those 3 units rushing forward. With no invisibility I think you will find it tough to get into combat turn 2. Maybe you are just relying on your opponent being overwhelmed by targets but if he/she is smart they will target down your juggerlords and then work through the grinders.
I think it will put up a fight though and against anything non tournament it should do just fine.
2015/12/17 19:52:42
Subject: [2000] - KDK + CSM Allies - Anyone have experience of 3x jugger lords?
This list is screaming for the gorepack. Drop a grinder and take 2 melta bike units and 4x5 dog packs or 3x8 points willing to carry your lords. Bring the Heldrake into your KDK list to gain the blood tithes now that your gorepack frees the FA slot. Instruments are a waste of 15 points. Take maybe one banner in the letter if any. goredrinker lord should carry the lightning claw for flexibility, an extra attack and to strike at initiative when needed.
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2015/12/18 10:38:41
Subject: Re:[2000] - KDK + CSM Allies - Anyone have experience of 3x jugger lords?
List 2 looks a lot of fun. Definitely keep the Heldrake though. A few tweaks I'd consider are to drop 1 Spawn and split the other two into separate units of 1 Spawn. More blood tithe and more separate targets for the opponent to worry about. Then play around with maybe dropping some of the melta bombs, combi-meltas and possibly give one grinder the torrent flamer. Get a combat familiar on the Goredrinker Lord to take maximum advantage from the axe. Then maybe see if you can take any more hounds to beef up the existing units with while keeping the points as close to the total as possible.
Automatically Appended Next Post: List 2 looks a lot of fun. Definitely keep the Heldrake though. A few tweaks I'd consider are to drop 1 Spawn and split the other two into separate units of 1 Spawn. More blood tithe and more separate targets for the opponent to worry about. Then play around with maybe dropping some of the melta bombs, combi-meltas and possibly give one grinder the torrent flamer. Get a combat familiar on the Goredrinker Lord to take maximum advantage from the axe. Then maybe see if you can take any more hounds to beef up the existing units with while keeping the points as close to the total as possible.
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2015/12/18 14:28:34
Subject: Re:[2000] - KDK + CSM Allies - Anyone have experience of 3x jugger lords? UPDATED, 2x new lists
The attacks from the familiar have a different profile but they are not from a separate model or anything. The extra attacks are made by the Lord himself and therefore any unsaved wounds caused by them will add to the Goredrinker tally. It's also usually best to make the Lords standard attacks with the LC as they also benefit from the Goredrinker buffs. The Shred rule on the LC can help add to the Goredrinker tally quicker.
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2015/12/18 16:18:35
Subject: Re:[2000] - KDK + CSM Allies - Anyone have experience of 3x jugger lords? UPDATED, 2x new lists
I stand corrected-
combat familiar rules state "A model with a combat familiar makes two additional Strength 4 AP- Melee Attacks"
and goredrinker rules state "Keep a count of all unsaved Wounds caused by the bearer’s Melee attacks"
so they do stack!
will now have to readjust list to get a combat familiar!
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