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 ClockworkZion wrote:
I was working on my own Minor Order, but gold is a right pain in the neck to paint well, especially with white robes. I was a bit too ambitious in what I was doing and just couldn't make it work like I wanted. So I shifted gears and picked a Major Order instead.

I know how that feels. I'm still slogging through my gold armour, white robe sisters. Check sig. Glad i went with it though. When sisters come in plastic, gunna do it all again, but paint the gold better. A little too far in to change it all now.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

I'm waiting for Sisters, not some 3rd part knock off, and I bet I'm not alone.

I have acquired every sister figure released by GW, since the day they released the first box set. I'll be getting the Dreamforge Widows as well, not to use as sisters. I'm sure some people will use the Widows as proxies but suggesting that they're '3rd part knockoffs' is not accurate. The AVA model doesn't look anything like an SoB, and I'm really quite sure it was never meant to.

The Dreamforge heavy infantry, at least the renders, could reasonably be called Grey Knight knockoffs- although GW didn't invent that characteristic greathelm visor either.

I'm torn about getting this digital release. I have everything SoB I can get my claws on, but I doubt I'll be playing 40K again. I enjoy other rules systems so much more.

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

I'm waiting for Sisters, not some 3rd part knock off, and I bet I'm not alone.

I have acquired every sister figure released by GW, since the day they released the first box set. I'll be getting the Dreamforge Widows as well, not to use as sisters. I'm sure some people will use the Widows as proxies but suggesting that they're '3rd part knockoffs' is not accurate. The AVA model doesn't look anything like an SoB, and I'm really quite sure it was never meant to.

I'm missing one of the variant Canoness models and the real banner bearer model, but I'm with you on the collection aspect.

And I apologize for calling them "knock offs", it's just that when people start talking about models to use as "count-as Sisters" they're designed to try and look like nuns, or space nuns, or centerfolds dressed as some variant of nun/space nun. I'm just well past caring about it. I like the armored "Joan of Arc" style the GW ones have and that's what I want to continue with.

Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic. This should include a range of finecast HQ units (with a Canoness which has multiple weapon options) and a single plastic kit which will allow players to make several units (Battle Sisters, Dominion, etc). From what I hear, all of the units that are getting resculpts (such as the plastic Sisters) are some of the most gorgeous and detailed models GW has put out to-date.

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

That's interesting. Sad to think that we sisters players are so hard up that even the most slight evidence that GW has thought about the range AT ALL, even to change a little code on a website, is exciting.

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

Canadian website seems to say "Adepta Sororitas."

Lots of interesting changes here. The paint set is probably the neatest, and definitely a good sign.

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic. This should include a range of finecast HQ units (with a Canoness which has multiple weapon options) and a single plastic kit which will allow players to make several units (Battle Sisters, Dominion, etc). From what I hear, all of the units that are getting resculpts (such as the plastic Sisters) are some of the most gorgeous and detailed models GW has put out to-date.

I haven't heard those rumors and would love to know where they're coming from, but as for the Adepta Sororitas thing, that was covered a couple pages back:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Just got this off the GW site:



Looks like this weekend.

 Marik Law wrote:
I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic.

I really don't think that this will be the case. Not only have GW devs stated that they now have the capability to make plastic Sisters (which would render finecast Sisters a pointless middleman) but they're moving away from finecast in general. Look at the recent Marine update, everything was in plastic, IIRC. Certainly some of the characters.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Marik Law wrote:
Just noticed that, on the Games-Workshop website (at least the Canadian one), the Sisters of Battle section has just been renamed Adeptus Sororitas.

I've also been hearing rumours that we'll be seeing the Sisters model range updated from metal to primarily finecast and perhaps plastic. This should include a range of finecast HQ units (with a Canoness which has multiple weapon options) and a single plastic kit which will allow players to make several units (Battle Sisters, Dominion, etc). From what I hear, all of the units that are getting resculpts (such as the plastic Sisters) are some of the most gorgeous and detailed models GW has put out to-date.

I haven't heard those rumors and would love to know where they're coming from,

From what I've been told, apparently GW has had finecast molds for a lot of Sisters models for over a year now as well as at least one plastic mold finished. I'm pretty certain the plastic mold was the generic Sisters unit which can make multiple units (ala Grey Knights). I wouldn't get my hopes up too much, but we may be able to expect a lot of Finecast re-releases and maybe a plastic kit or two (though very few re-designs). I haven't heard anything about any new units, sadly. :

 Marik Law wrote:
From what I've been told, apparently GW has had finecast molds for a lot of Sisters models for over a year now

Oh? Source?

I haven't heard any rumors about finecast Sisters at all. Only about plastic ones.

 Marik Law wrote:
From what I've been told,

By whom?

Marik is an established rumor source, so probably by 'little birdies'. (Of course, he is also 1/10 so might want to take it with a pinch of salt.)

 pretre wrote:
Marik is an established rumor source, so probably by 'little birdies'

Yep -- according to your scorecard he's one true to ten false.

I am so looking forward to our mini update.

As for my colour scheme and who is descended from whom, all of your sisters orders come from my sisters actually.

I play them as the actual Daughters of the Emperor circa M36.

Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

pretre wrote:Just as there are plenty of custom 'First Founding' legions/chapters that people have. Most folks stick with an establish chapter/order and use the existing fluff, building off it rather than bypassing or creating something new though.

If you don't want to choose from which chapter yours come from, it's pretty easy and it doesn't require to contradict the fluff : there are many examples in the fluff of chapters whose geneseed provider are not known.
On the other hand, pretending your chapter to be a first founding chapter obviously goes very strongly against the established fluff. Just like pretending your custom order predates or is more important than any of the six big ones, which I didn't do.

ClockworkZion wrote:ALL Orders Militant descend from a Major Order. It's actually a really big deal for them that they can all point back to that small little covent the Daughters of the Emperor hailed from and say that it's their spiritual birthplace.

I don't see the link between your first and second sentence .
And if we are going that route, why don't the two Rose orders also trace their origins to one of the four original orders ? The Bloody Rose had been a group of (then Ordeless ?) bodyguard for the Abbess, but there is no such mention for the Sacred Rose.

Troike wrote:But hey, if you want an Order of unknown descent, just say that they've forgotten who their parent Order was, though destruction of records, passage of time or isolation. Something like that. It'd make for interesting fluff, since such an Order would be in a unique position.

Actually, it's not so much that I want that, it's more that I never even thought to find a parent order for mine, it just never stuck me as anything important. Especially with so few elements on the difference between the six major Orders.

Purifier wrote:So I put it to you who have a better idea of the fluff than I do... is there any major order they would more likely be descendant from than the rest?

As far as I know, everything we have one the differences between orders is from WD293UK, so :
- Our Martyred Lady are quite “vengeful”
- Bloody Rose are “brooding” and “quick to anger”
- Sacred Rose's “founder” (which was already dead for a long time when the Order was actually founded, but it was the same for the Bloody Rose, and that didn't kept them from sharing some of the personality of Saint Mina, so maybe the Sacred Rose sisters share some of Saint Arabella) was “a particularly serene, even-tempered sister, renowned for her calm nature in the face of adversity.” and “many sisters pray to her for liberation from doubt and rash action at times when a cool head is required.”
Make of that what you will.

Manchu wrote:As long as I'm alerted, it will be in the thread title and OP when confirmed as is the usual practice on this site.

That's quite awesome.

 pretre wrote:
Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

EDIT: nvm

 pretre wrote:
Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

Hmmm, don't know if she's getting nerfed, but I checked the Canoness page and saw that Palatine is in the stats. Was that always there? I would've remembered that, I think.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:ALL Orders Militant descend from a Major Order. It's actually a really big deal for them that they can all point back to that small little covent the Daughters of the Emperor hailed from and say that it's their spiritual birthplace.

I don't see the link between your first and second sentence .
And if we are going that route, why don't the two Rose orders also trace their origins to one of the four original orders ? The Bloody Rose had been a group of (then Ordeless ?) bodyguard for the Abbess, but there is no such mention for the Sacred Rose.

They do, but they were established as a Major Order with a patron saint (one of the 6 Brides who saw the Emperor). The point was that all the Orders have a very easy to trace lineage, and none of them are just created on the spot like a Marine chapter is. Though a Minor Order can be made by splitting a group off of a Major Order, but that's not the same thing.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

That's the weird thing, I'm clicking on the Adepta Sororitas tab, going straight to the Canoness and still seeing the Palatine there. Though that description might be the old one, now that I'm looking.

The old Witch Hunters pages were still on there, and you could sometimes fall into them by clicking on stuff in the "have you got?" section. This is a technical derp by the website people, I guess? Maybe they linked to the older pages instead of the newer ones?

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

That's the weird thing, I'm clicking on the Adepta Sororitas tab, going straight to the Canoness and still seeing the Palatine there. Though that description might be the old one, now that I'm looking.

The old Witch Hunters pages were still on there, and you could sometimes fall into them by clicking on stuff in the "have you got?" section. This is a technical derp by the website people, I guess? maybe they linked to the older pages instead of the newer ones?

They never updated the old stuff so there are still bad links and old info abound on there.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
That's 3rd Ed still kicking around. Ignore the stats, they say we still have Palatines too.

That's the weird thing, I'm clicking on the Adepta Sororitas tab, going straight to the Canoness and still seeing the Palatine there. Though that description might be the old one, now that I'm looking.

The old Witch Hunters pages were still on there, and you could sometimes fall into them by clicking on stuff in the "have you got?" section. This is a technical derp by the website people, I guess? maybe they linked to the older pages instead of the newer ones?

I'm also seeing stuff like Repentia with Ld 6 and Seraphim with I 4. Very confusing. I'd hoped they would have tidied up the REALLY old stuff by now.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
They never updated the old stuff so there are still bad links and old info abound on there.

 Muddypaw wrote:
I'm also seeing stuff like Repentia with Ld 6 and Seraphim with I 4. Very confusing. I'd hoped they would have tidied up the REALLY old stuff by now.

The way it worked before is that there were two pages for some of the units. If you used to tabs on the left, you'd go straight to the up to date stuff. But you sometimes got into Witch Hunter-era pages through the "have you got?" bit, somehow. So yeah, it seems that, for some reason, they've dropped the old Witch Hunters pages into the new Adepta Sororitas section. Hope they fix it soon.

 Troike wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Has Celestine's unit info always been wrong?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1300012a

Or is Celestine getting nerfed?

Hmmm, don't know if she's getting nerfed, but I checked the Canoness page and saw that Palatine is in the stats. Was that always there? I would've remembered that, I think.

Actually, come to think of it, I distinctly remember the Palatine being on there for awhile (don't know why though just stuck in the memory for some reason), at least several months. I'm pretty sure they never updated that one, and probably the others too. The "what you can make with this kit" bit seems to be something they don't really do anymore across the website (none of the new SM releases have it, as far as I know), and the ones that have are relics I think- GW only seems to update stuff when it absolutely has too.

Yeah, I'm going to go with leftovers from c:wh. Never mind!

Here is my question.... If I wanted the "updated" sister's rules, do I have to own a Ipad?

If I don't own one, am I gak out of luck?

ClockworkZion wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
And if we are going that route, why don't the two Rose orders also trace their origins to one of the four original orders ? The Bloody Rose had been a group of (then Ordeless ?) bodyguard for the Abbess, but there is no such mention for the Sacred Rose.

They do

So, from which Order do the Order of the Bloody Rose comes from ?

Lockark wrote:Here is my question.... If I wanted the "updated" sister's rules, do I have to own a Ipad?

If I don't own one, am I gak out of luck?

Supposedly, there will also be standard ebook files that can be read one the very PC from which you posted this message.