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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36882456

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fort-myers-nightclub-shooting-1-dead-14-others-reportedly-wounded-n615961


It would seem that no matter what Will Smith Might say, club dancing in Florida is not a good idea.

The shooters went after a club full of kids under 17, and there was, apparently, armed security on site. Two kids are dead and more than a dozen injured

By current estimates... seems gang related?

 whembly wrote:
By current estimates... seems gang related?

To be honest I'm having a hard time picturing a gang that stupid. They had to realize that a nightclub shooting in Florida right now would make them number 1 on the police dog house.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 whembly wrote:
By current estimates... seems gang related?

To be honest I'm having a hard time picturing a gang that stupid. They had to realize that a nightclub shooting in Florida right now would make them number 1 on the police dog house.

Yeah... gonna give you a second to dwell on what you just typed.

Heard this on the radio at work...You know things are definitely FUBAR when you've become so jaded and cynical that your first reaction is "Thank feth only two people were killed".

Title Changed to something less LULZ-y because, well, this just isn't funny.

At all.

Drive by spray and pray, looks very strongly like gang activity. Still no detail on weapons used or motive. At least no one this time jumped the gun and blamed it on assault weapons yet. Surprisingly little info at this time.

Attacking a party with such a large armed security force was very brazen. That they got away with it so cleanly says they need a new security force.

 Alpharius wrote:
Title Changed to something less LULZ-y because, well, this just isn't funny.

At all.

The shooting? No.

What comes after will be comedy central gold, however. I hear we're already blaming guns for it, but no mention of the shooters.


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 djones520 wrote:

Yeah... gonna give you a second to dwell on what you just typed.

No, seriously. These days most gang leaders that outlast the milk do it by not being idiots.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Title Changed to something less LULZ-y because, well, this just isn't funny.

At all.

The shooting? No.

What comes after will be comedy central gold, however. I hear we're already blaming guns for it, but no mention of the shooters.

Still, people died or were seriously hurt here. Some reverence should be shown.

So where is all the BLM outrage over this?

Oh wait, it was black on black, so they don't matter.

Any news about it ? Who did that and why ?

 godardc wrote:
Any news about it ? Who did that and why ?

http://www.allenbwest.com/michele/police-reveal-identities-ft-myers-mass-shooting-suspects-media-silent

 SickSix wrote:
So where is all the BLM outrage over this?

Oh wait, it was black on black, so they don't matter.

It's almost like BLM exists for a very specific political goal, which is police abuse against black communities. But I guess as long as they don't focus on everything, ever, then they are hypocrites.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 Ouze wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
So where is all the BLM outrage over this?

Oh wait, it was black on black, so they don't matter.

It's almost like BLM exists for a very specific political goal, which is police abuse against black communities. But I guess as long as they don't focus on everything, ever, then they are hypocrites.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So you would agree that they need to change their name to 'Only Black People Shot By Police Matter'?

I guess the irony of protesting the (relative) few incidents of black people killed by police while they are killing eachother on almost a genocidal scale in places like Chicago passes by you.

No, I simply understand the concept of a movement having a specific goal, and that you don't lose the right to be mad about an injustice just because you don't care equally about every other injustice everywhere else.

 Ouze wrote:
No, I simply understand the concept of a movement having a specific goal, and that you don't lose the right to be mad about an injustice just because you don't care equally about every other injustice everywhere else.

I didn't bring up 'every other injustice out there' did I?

I talked about black people being murdered not being a concern to a group that calls itself 'Black Lives Matter'.

 SickSix wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
No, I simply understand the concept of a movement having a specific goal, and that you don't lose the right to be mad about an injustice just because you don't care equally about every other injustice everywhere else.

I didn't bring up 'every other injustice out there' did I?

I talked about black people being murdered not being a concern to a group that calls itself 'Black Lives Matter'.

What is there to protest, though?

Spree shootings and (potentially) unjust shootings by the police are not really related.

 SickSix wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
No, I simply understand the concept of a movement having a specific goal, and that you don't lose the right to be mad about an injustice just because you don't care equally about every other injustice everywhere else.

I didn't bring up 'every other injustice out there' did I?

I talked about black people being murdered not being a concern to a group that calls itself 'Black Lives Matter'.

So should PETA rename themselves because they do not protest every single time an animal is killed in a slaughter house?

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 SickSix wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
No, I simply understand the concept of a movement having a specific goal, and that you don't lose the right to be mad about an injustice just because you don't care equally about every other injustice everywhere else.

I didn't bring up 'every other injustice out there' did I?

I talked about black people being murdered not being a concern to a group that calls itself 'Black Lives Matter'.

So should PETA rename themselves because they do not protest every single time an animal is killed in a slaughter house?

Well... yes. Considering their own headquarters is a slaughterhouse, you'd think their name is pretty improper.

 djones520 wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 SickSix wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
No, I simply understand the concept of a movement having a specific goal, and that you don't lose the right to be mad about an injustice just because you don't care equally about every other injustice everywhere else.

I didn't bring up 'every other injustice out there' did I?

I talked about black people being murdered not being a concern to a group that calls itself 'Black Lives Matter'.

So should PETA rename themselves because they do not protest every single time an animal is killed in a slaughter house?

Well... yes. Considering their own headquarters is a slaughterhouse, you'd think their name is pretty improper.

In hindsight, maybe not the best group to pick.

Yeah, no gak.

 feeder wrote:

 SickSix wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
No, I simply understand the concept of a movement having a specific goal, and that you don't lose the right to be mad about an injustice just because you don't care equally about every other injustice everywhere else.

I didn't bring up 'every other injustice out there' did I?

I talked about black people being murdered not being a concern to a group that calls itself 'Black Lives Matter'.

What is there to protest, though?

Spree shootings and (potentially) unjust shootings by the police are not really related.

You just aren't feeling enough irrational hate toward BLM to truly understand how to derail this thread properly by making it about a politically charged, ill-informed grievance. I suppose that means we should just stick to the subject at hand or let it go.

I think both sides have stated their points on the BLM tangent as far as the term 'politely' can be mangled and stretched out to cover. So let's drop that side discussion

 SickSix wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Any news about it ? Who did that and why ?

http://www.allenbwest.com/michele/police-reveal-identities-ft-myers-mass-shooting-suspects-media-silent

I'm trying to wrap my head around how Sick, NBC, and whoever allen west are think the words 'These men are not suspects in the Club Blu shooting' translates into 'These men are suspects in the Club Blu shooting.'.


I'm not an expert on English, but I seem to recall these are opposite things.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 SickSix wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Any news about it ? Who did that and why ?

http://www.allenbwest.com/michele/police-reveal-identities-ft-myers-mass-shooting-suspects-media-silent

I'm trying to wrap my head around how Sick, NBC, and whoever allen west are think the words 'These men are not suspects in the Club Blu shooting' translates into 'These men are suspects in the Club Blu shooting.'.


I'm not an expert on English, but I seem to recall these are opposite things.

Allen West is a retired Army Colonel, and a former US Representative.

 djones520 wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 SickSix wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Any news about it ? Who did that and why ?

http://www.allenbwest.com/michele/police-reveal-identities-ft-myers-mass-shooting-suspects-media-silent

I'm trying to wrap my head around how Sick, NBC, and whoever allen west are think the words 'These men are not suspects in the Club Blu shooting' translates into 'These men are suspects in the Club Blu shooting.'.


I'm not an expert on English, but I seem to recall these are opposite things.

Allen West is a retired Army Colonel, and a former US Representative.

I'm disappointed he is lending the gravitas that being an Army Colonel grants to such a shoddily constructed argument.

 feeder wrote:
I'm disappointed he is lending the gravitas that being an Army Colonel grants to such a shoddily constructed argument.

Allen West was forced out to avoid being court martialed. I'm not sure I'd consider him the best example of our men and women in uniform.

 Ouze wrote:

 feeder wrote:
I'm disappointed he is lending the gravitas that being an Army Colonel grants to such a shoddily constructed argument.

Allen West was forced out to avoid being court martialed. I'm not sure I'd consider him the best example of our men and women in uniform.

Ah. So, not the chap the Point is named for?

No, I'm pretty sure that's someone else