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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 10:17:26
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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I recently decided to start on a Terminator Assault Squad, but didn't really fancy spending nearly £30 on a unit I may or may not end up using.
However, I did have an old Grey Knight Paladin armed with a Thunder Hammer, plus two other Paladins ripe for conversion.
I found a unit of Stormcast Eternals Liberators for £10 at my local model shop, and they have hammers and big shields...
So my idea was to put Lightning Claws on the 2 Paladins I had spare, then paint up 2 Liberators as Terminators with Thunder Hammers and Stormshield, put the third Storm Shield on the Paladin with Thunder Hammer, and paint up the final Liberator as a Librarian.
Could I do this? or would purists go "TRAITOR!"
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/07/23 10:21:24
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 11:14:06
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Purists go off even with transfers and emblems being wrong. Ignore them.
If they are Citadel models, you should be OK anywhere.
Keep them as WYSIWYG as you, and keeping the scale about the same helps.
You should be good, but expect whingy comments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 11:52:29
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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I may be using short swords and single lightning claw for the lightning claw assault terminators. just cause I don't have left handed lightning claws.
Everything else is WYSIWYG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 12:05:30
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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My Death Guard enjoy the salty tears of bellends like that, as most of them are converted in some way with parts from wherever. Ignore them, use what you want (within reason, i.e. Said non GW models can't be used in GW stores), counts-as is the single greatest rule in any wargame, but GW especially thrive on it with the wealth of kits available.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/23 12:06:25
    
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 12:18:22
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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Well technically Liberators ARE GW models.....just for AoS not 40k lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 13:19:10
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Corennus wrote:Well technically Liberators ARE GW models.....just for AoS not 40k lol
And Stormcasts in general a pretty much "Fantasy Space Marines" I have resisted the temptation to convert Stormcasts into various Terminators, or various Jump Marines for quite some time. The only thing that has stopped my thus far is that I don't actually play Marines. If you put in the effort to actually convert them, rather than just proxy them, no one will have the right to complain. The difference is: To 'proxy' is to just put the model on the board as-is with no consideration for what you are using it for. To 'convert' is to assemble and paint the model with its intended purpose in mind. Often this means adding weapon bits from similar sets, or even just making sure the paint scheme matches your army. I have 6 storm bolters from the Ministorum Containters terrain that I really, really want to add to the 3 winged Stormcasts from the started set. Use them as Primaris Inceptors. -
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/23 13:19:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 13:50:05
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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Well since they're going to be proxying Assault Terminators with Storm Shields and Thunder Hammers i'm not sure what else I could do to convert them.....maybe change helmets on them to Grey Knight Paladin head......
But I like the look of the Liberator Helms!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 14:35:27
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Maybe add backpacks, if the official model has one.
Power cabling, headlights, etc.
Logos and iconoraphy using molded GS.
Paint a power-weapon glow around the weapons.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/23 14:36:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 14:49:52
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Corennus wrote:Well since they're going to be proxying Assault Terminators with Storm Shields and Thunder Hammers i'm not sure what else I could do to convert them.....maybe change helmets on them to Grey Knight Paladin head...... But I like the look of the Liberator Helms!
Indeed in this particular case, their really is very little "alteration" needed. But other cases, like those involving guns, may need a bit of work. I would just make sure mixing the models with the GK Paladins have a reason for being different. Like the actual GK Paladin is the Terminator Sgt, for example, while the Stormcasts are the regular member of the unit. A match paint scheme is also a must. Skinnereal wrote:Maybe add backpacks, if the official model has one. Power cabling, headlights, etc. Logos and iconoraphy using molded GS. Paint a power-weapon glow around the weapons.
^This too, although the level of detail here is up to you. -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 16:01:39
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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Actually it's easier to show you....
Terminator Sgt with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield (inscribed)
2 Terminator Liberators with Thunder Hammers and Storm Shields
2 Terminators with Lightning Claws (proxy the short swords)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/23 17:09:15
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Yeah. anyone with an issue with those models is out of their mind. Those are clearly Terminators. It's even better since Imperials have a thing for "fancying up" their dudes' armour. Your models can easily be from a Chapter that likes its iconography (like Blood Angels). The head swaps and shoulder shields really sell this too. -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/24 09:27:41
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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With the last Liberator i have left I am converting him to a Librarian..
I have chopped off the Hammer and given him a Nemesis Halberd as a Force Stave or Force Sword instead, and given him a backpack as he will be in power armour.
The head I have to keep as original as it is part of the model mould.
Question: Are librarians still painted blue? or just one shoulder pad and the rest as normal chapter colours?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/24 13:22:47
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Corennus wrote:Question: Are librarians still painted blue? or just one shoulder pad and the rest as normal chapter colours?
It depends on the chapter's guidelines, or how depressed the Libby feels that day.
But seriously it's completely your preference, as long as there is some blue. Except for GKs, their libbies seem to forego the blue entirely
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/24 14:32:43
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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Will post pics of terminators when they are done. and libby
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/24 18:05:29
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Those look great! I look forward to seeing them completed.
This game is based on the hobby of model making and I think a lot people forget that. I would rather play against painted and based, home-made, non-WYSIWYG, off-scale conversions than gray GW plastic any day of the week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/24 19:08:30
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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One of the guys at my local hobby club used to bring a warhammer fantasy army made mostly of toothpics and matches. I don't think there was a single GW model in it. It looked pretty decent actually. If someone doesn't want to play with you because your models don't fit his standards I say he's just a consumerist drone.
Nice models. An army of those will look great and uniqe on the table!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/24 20:04:30
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Yeah someone gave me crap for making my own vulkan hestan model. Or using blood angel parts for my white scars successor chapter. people get pissy over such small things. I would just ask the store owner, as long as its 50% GW it should be fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/25 08:35:45
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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final Liberator is now becoming Reclusiarch because i already have a spare GK Paladin with Nemesis Force Stave who is becoming my librarian.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/26 13:07:40
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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Work in Progress: Might clean them up a bit more but now totally playable!
We have:
3 hammer and storm shield terminators. 2 sporting a lesser known Artificer Terminator plate.
2 lightning claw terminators with short swords that act like lightning claws.
1 Terminator Captain with Power Sword
1 Terminator Librarian with Archeotech Storm Shield (shield actually projects out of the small shield to cover most of torso) and Force Stave
1 High Chaplain in Artifcer Terminator Armour with Crozius Arcanum and Storm Bolter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/26 14:54:20
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Power Elephant wrote:One of the guys at my local hobby club used to bring a warhammer fantasy army made mostly of toothpics and matches. I don't think there was a single GW model in it. It looked pretty decent actually. If someone doesn't want to play with you because your models don't fit his standards I say he's just a consumerist drone.
Nice models. An army of those will look great and uniqe on the table!
Colour me intrigued. I'm guessing a WE forest spirit army?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/07/30 11:25:19
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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FINISHED TERMINATORS!
PLEASE CRITIQUE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/02 14:17:34
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Grimtuff wrote: Power Elephant wrote:One of the guys at my local hobby club used to bring a warhammer fantasy army made mostly of toothpics and matches. I don't think there was a single GW model in it. It looked pretty decent actually. If someone doesn't want to play with you because your models don't fit his standards I say he's just a consumerist drone.
Nice models. An army of those will look great and uniqe on the table!
Colour me intrigued. I'm guessing a WE forest spirit army?
I think they were ogres, actually (don't know a lot about fantasy). The only specific models I remember from the army are ships made from matches and circular mouths with tentacles comming out of the ground (picture a mini salaric pit - I'm pretty sure they represented ogres). No explanation for why this clearly sea borne army is able to move on land other than "magic".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/02 14:49:45
Subject: Using non 40k models for 40k squads
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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the joys of "counts as"
i once had an opponent bring a model T-Rex and count it as a Squiggoth.
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