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Does any one use any spray paint with the same ingredients or similar...? Just want to make a thread about this particular issue to get as many people as possible to see thread so hopefully some one is familiar.



Please delete any other threads on this section of website if you feel this thread shouldn't have been made and instead my questions asked in my other thread which is not directly related to this question.


Thanks all.

Edit - Citadel sprays also contain acetone.

Are you worried about some of the ingredients in particular? Just about any spray paint or primer is going to have some reasonably nasty stuff in the propellant, which is why you should always spray outside or in a well ventilated area.

Acetone content is the solvent that keeps the paint inside in a liquid state. It rapidly evaporates upon spraying. Think remover of po'lish of na'il. Rubbing alcohol and its derivatives interact with the the air and rapidly evaporate.

Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

Awsome, and it should act the same as a can that says primer on it since citadel cans dont say primer but are used as them?

Quick Color is not technically primer, but for plastic it works very well. I’ve been using it as a primer for 15 years and love the stuff. The fact that it’s a dollar a can also helps. Spray with confidence.

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

Awsome, and it should act the same as a can that says primer on it since citadel cans dont say primer but are used as them?

If anything, what you want to test out is the physical qualities of the primer. Check how it takes on the paint you are going to use over the primer. Some result in a more eggshelly texture, some with smooth glossy surface that doesn't take up paint well. In the case of latter however, more often than not it's beacuse you've shotgunned the primer point blank.

The citadel sprays that come advertised as spray paint as opposed to primer is because the citadel brand is formulated to behave like a primer. I'm not sure if it's their proprietary formula or they just like to come up with names for their own product like "astra militarum".

For all we know, citadel paints may simply be rebranded automotive primers, but who knows.

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

Awsome, and it should act the same as a can that says primer on it since citadel cans dont say primer but are used as them?

If anything, what you want to test out is the physical qualities of the primer. Check how it takes on the paint you are going to use over the primer. Some result in a more eggshelly texture, some with smooth glossy surface that doesn't take up paint well. In the case of latter however, more often than not it's beacuse you've shotgunned the primer point blank.

The citadel sprays that come advertised as spray paint as opposed to primer is because the citadel brand is formulated to behave like a primer. I'm not sure if it's their proprietary formula or they just like to come up with names for their own product like "astra militarum".

For all we know, citadel paints may simply be rebranded automotive primers, but who knows.

I have tested it it looks fine. But my point is like, you say its formulated to behave like a primer, but most spray paints aparently behave that way any way, so this word primer is kind of a pain in the ass lol.

Oh well it seems to stick and look fine on test peice, i cant scratch it off easily or any thing so should be good to use...

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

Awsome, and it should act the same as a can that says primer on it since citadel cans dont say primer but are used as them?

If anything, what you want to test out is the physical qualities of the primer. Check how it takes on the paint you are going to use over the primer. Some result in a more eggshelly texture, some with smooth glossy surface that doesn't take up paint well. In the case of latter however, more often than not it's beacuse you've shotgunned the primer point blank.

The citadel sprays that come advertised as spray paint as opposed to primer is because the citadel brand is formulated to behave like a primer. I'm not sure if it's their proprietary formula or they just like to come up with names for their own product like "astra militarum".

For all we know, citadel paints may simply be rebranded automotive primers, but who knows.

I have tested it it looks fine. But my point is like, you say its formulated to behave like a primer, but most spray paints aparently behave that way any way, so this word primer is kind of a pain in the ass lol.

Oh well it seems to stick and look fine on test peice, i cant scratch it off easily or any thing so should be good to use...

Most commercial spraypaints are semi-hydrophobic and only accepts other aerosol-based acrylics on top of it. Water-based acrylics will roll off of it.

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

Awsome, and it should act the same as a can that says primer on it since citadel cans dont say primer but are used as them?

If anything, what you want to test out is the physical qualities of the primer. Check how it takes on the paint you are going to use over the primer. Some result in a more eggshelly texture, some with smooth glossy surface that doesn't take up paint well. In the case of latter however, more often than not it's beacuse you've shotgunned the primer point blank.

The citadel sprays that come advertised as spray paint as opposed to primer is because the citadel brand is formulated to behave like a primer. I'm not sure if it's their proprietary formula or they just like to come up with names for their own product like "astra militarum".

For all we know, citadel paints may simply be rebranded automotive primers, but who knows.

I have tested it it looks fine. But my point is like, you say its formulated to behave like a primer, but most spray paints aparently behave that way any way, so this word primer is kind of a pain in the ass lol.

Oh well it seems to stick and look fine on test peice, i cant scratch it off easily or any thing so should be good to use...

Most commercial spraypaints are semi-hydrophobic and only accepts other aerosol-based acrylics on top of it. Water-based acrylics will roll off of it.

So citadel etc paints are ok to paint on it?, like they are aerosol based?

Thanks mate.

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

Awsome, and it should act the same as a can that says primer on it since citadel cans dont say primer but are used as them?

If anything, what you want to test out is the physical qualities of the primer. Check how it takes on the paint you are going to use over the primer. Some result in a more eggshelly texture, some with smooth glossy surface that doesn't take up paint well. In the case of latter however, more often than not it's beacuse you've shotgunned the primer point blank.

The citadel sprays that come advertised as spray paint as opposed to primer is because the citadel brand is formulated to behave like a primer. I'm not sure if it's their proprietary formula or they just like to come up with names for their own product like "astra militarum".

For all we know, citadel paints may simply be rebranded automotive primers, but who knows.

I have tested it it looks fine. But my point is like, you say its formulated to behave like a primer, but most spray paints aparently behave that way any way, so this word primer is kind of a pain in the ass lol.

Oh well it seems to stick and look fine on test peice, i cant scratch it off easily or any thing so should be good to use...

Most commercial spraypaints are semi-hydrophobic and only accepts other aerosol-based acrylics on top of it. Water-based acrylics will roll off of it.

So citadel etc paints are ok to paint on it?, like they are aerosol based?

Thanks mate.

Right. Specific spray cans designated as primers or the citadel sprays are formulated in a way that it creates a surface which water based paints can stick onto, despite themselves being aerosol based.

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:

 skchsan wrote:

 Stormatious wrote:
Oh, sorry, to clarify, imj ust wondering if any thing about these ingredients is going to be harmful in any form to my plastic mini or if it is in some way just not good stuff to use on models..


Thanks.

Most of the elements that can potentially corrode the plastic are all highly volatile and thus evaporates very quickly. So quickly that when used as directed, the only thing that's hitting the plastic are pigments and accelerant. So yes, most sprays are plastic safe - actually, most spray paints are used to paint on surfaces that are otherwise too non-porous for paints to stick on the conventional way -example of which being plastic.

TLDR, yes spray cans are safe to use on plastic because it is one of the surfaces it is designed to stick onto.

Unless you're shotgunning the spray paint point blank on the plastic, there shouldnt be any worries. If still in doubt, test it on a left over sprue and see how the plastic reacts.

Judging from the list, the acetone and acetate are the pigment solvents, the petroleum gas the accelerant, and the hydrocrabons are the bitterants to thwart inhalation.

Nope. hydrocarbons are thinners.

Awsome, and it should act the same as a can that says primer on it since citadel cans dont say primer but are used as them?

If anything, what you want to test out is the physical qualities of the primer. Check how it takes on the paint you are going to use over the primer. Some result in a more eggshelly texture, some with smooth glossy surface that doesn't take up paint well. In the case of latter however, more often than not it's beacuse you've shotgunned the primer point blank.

The citadel sprays that come advertised as spray paint as opposed to primer is because the citadel brand is formulated to behave like a primer. I'm not sure if it's their proprietary formula or they just like to come up with names for their own product like "astra militarum".

For all we know, citadel paints may simply be rebranded automotive primers, but who knows.

I have tested it it looks fine. But my point is like, you say its formulated to behave like a primer, but most spray paints aparently behave that way any way, so this word primer is kind of a pain in the ass lol.

Oh well it seems to stick and look fine on test peice, i cant scratch it off easily or any thing so should be good to use...

Most commercial spraypaints are semi-hydrophobic and only accepts other aerosol-based acrylics on top of it. Water-based acrylics will roll off of it.

So citadel etc paints are ok to paint on it?, like they are aerosol based?

Thanks mate.

Right. Specific spray cans designated as primers or the citadel sprays are formulated in a way that it creates a surface which water based paints can stick onto, despite themselves being aerosol based.

Sweet as cheers man.


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I am proud to say i have finally used the spray on the model i was talking about.

Picture coming in about 1 hour.

Finished spraying it using that 5 dollar spray. ( its a light grey )

edit - Camera is kinda blury so you dont really get to see it properly to be honest, the blurs make it look like its clogged up but its not.

edit - One picture is camera flash ON, other is camera flash OFF. Both pictures are after i sprayed it with the spray.