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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/08 19:45:39
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help! [solved]
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Unbalanced Fanatic
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I did a bad job of placing a deathwatch veteran torso on his legs and I can't get them undone. I used gel superglue, not plastic glue, so it should not be permanent. After I realized I made a mistake I placed the marine in my freezer for 3 hours and tried to pull him apart, I have done it many times before and it has always worked. It didn't work. Back in the freezer overnight this time (12+ hours), and he is still stuck. I tried putting him in warm water with Ajax degreaser for 3 hours, still nothing. I've put the marine back in the freezer 3 times for ~12 hours each time, and each time I try to take him apart with exacto knives, needles, paperclips, tooth picks, etc. He will not come undone. I bought helping hand superglue remover and coated his waist in that and still nothing.
How can I take this marine apart? I've tried everything I have heard about short of cutting the model in two or dropping it on concrete. How do you break superglue bonds?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/08 20:06:29
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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This may be your only way. Use a piercing or jeweler's saw, very carefully, very slowly.
Although, you could try finding a small chisel and using it to split the 2 parts along the join.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/08 20:26:25
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Fictional wrote:
Although, you could try finding a small chisel and using it to split the 2 parts along the join.
Would a small flat head screw driver work? And what would do the most to loosen it up before hand: freezing or a warm soap bath, or something else? I don't think the superglue remover did anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/08 20:30:05
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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If you absolutely can't get them apart, place a Stanley knife under the belt and cut them apart. You should be able to repose it with a little tidying and shaving/filing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/08 20:44:55
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Would an exacto knife work better or do you need a larger knife? A stanley knife looks a bit thick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 05:02:49
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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A stanley/craft knife will probably be needed as you'd need the strength and leverage of a larger blade to get through the thick but of plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 09:35:57
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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[DCM]
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As you've used superglue, freezing the model makes the bond brittle and you can effectively snap the model at the torso with a big of help from a stanley knife.
I've done it a few times with Tyranids and it's worked pretty well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 11:43:50
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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I'd be surprised if super glue de-bonder didn't at least loosen it up?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 11:51:09
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Soaking super glue in denatured alcohol makes it brittle too and should break up pretty easily
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DV8 wrote:Blood Angels Furioso Dreadnought should also be double-fisted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 15:55:47
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Easy.
If its actual superglue and not plasticglue like you claim.
Throw it in the freezer for about 30 minutes. Then just use a hobby knife to pry them apart. Torso should pop right off.
I do this all the time when working with superglue.
Tl;DR FREEZE THE MODEL for 30 minutes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 16:34:27
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Op did that for 12hrs already
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 17:46:34
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Then he didnt use CA super glue.
OP do you have the exact name, pic or link of the glue you used?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 18:29:16
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Unbalanced Fanatic
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Dynas wrote:
Then he didnt use CA super glue.
OP do you have the exact name, pic or link of the glue you used?
This stuff: https://www.amazon.com/Original-Super-Glue-Cyanoacrylate-tubes/dp/B00I4CWHD4
I probably used too much, but super glue is super glue. I don't own plastic glue any more.
Rybrook wrote:Soaking super glue in denatured alcohol makes it brittle too and should break up pretty easily
Would rubbing alcohol work? I know alcohol melts resin minis but plastic will be ok, right?
Slipstream wrote:I'd be surprised if super glue de-bonder didn't at least loosen it up?
I used helping hand super glue remover. I don't think it can reach the inner layers of superglue. It only loosens the outside.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 20:38:50
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Eipi10 wrote:Dynas wrote:
Then he didnt use CA super glue.
OP do you have the exact name, pic or link of the glue you used?
This stuff: https://www.amazon.com/Original-Super-Glue-Cyanoacrylate-tubes/dp/B00I4CWHD4
I probably used too much, but super glue is super glue. I don't own plastic glue any more.
Rybrook wrote:Soaking super glue in denatured alcohol makes it brittle too and should break up pretty easily
Would rubbing alcohol work? I know alcohol melts resin minis but plastic will be ok, right?
Slipstream wrote:I'd be surprised if super glue de-bonder didn't at least loosen it up?
I used helping hand super glue remover. I don't think it can reach the inner layers of superglue. It only loosens the outside.
Hmmm... Freezing it should work. It should make it brittle. You may have to pry a bit if you use a lot.
You can use Iso alcohol to strip plastic minis. Bonus if you have a ultrasonic clear. I have had glue bonds break before when stripping minis (but never purposely tried to use it for that purpose).
Perhaps a pic of the model would help?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 21:04:36
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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There is a white film along the joint I want to break, I think it is soap. I will try submerging it in alcohol and freezing it at same time (the freezing point is -100). And failing that I might just accept an unusually flexible marine. It’s not worth cutting it in two without a jeweler’s saw. Unless it’s ok to try with an exacto knife and a xuron.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 21:48:42
Subject: I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Alcohol will strip a plastic mini, the only thing it will alter is the shine, it will go dull matt looking
Acetone is a no no,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/09 22:37:56
Subject: Re:I can't separate Marine legs from torso, pls help!
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Unbalanced Fanatic
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It came undone! The Stanley knife helped a lot. I think the alcohol helped a bit, keeping it cooler for longer after removing it from the freezer. Thanks for the help everyone.
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