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I am waiting for some artwork and renders to be finished before launching but I am looking at the middle of October at present.

Nice to see you getting advice from Tre here; he certainly knows what he's talking about. I'd also just like to add that I too want you to keep this contained and manageable. I honestly don't think you need to have stretch goals; don't feel too pressured in that direction. If you have planned this thing with a few more monsters to be unlocked up until £20K and it keeps drawing in money towards £30K or £40K, you definitely don't need to feel compelled to keep adding goals. If you just state openly that £20K is the last stretch goal and everything gained beyond that will go towards helping the goblins get off the ground next year, that should be perfectly fine. There are always backers that will whine about no stretch goals, but I'm personally a lot more likely to feel wary and drop out of an "exciting" campaign that just keeps on adding, than a "boring" one that is pretty much a done deal even though it might be two weeks left. As Duskland said, a runaway success on Kickstarter can sooo easily turn into a nightmare.

Hi Trodax, again that good advice. The good thing about the project is that I can scale the stretchgoals accordingly. We have a nice little menagerie of monsters that I now have some concept art for and I don't think we will be adding any more. Past £20k we might add another gribbly at £30k but that would be it. We want to give people options in weapons. Heads etc instead of a whole range of new monsters. But this one will be manageable. I won't go crazy

 Kaine Larson wrote:
I won't go crazy

Sounds great mate! I definitely think Kickstarter is the place where you want to be the boring, number-crunching, slightly paranoid accountant, rather than the care-free, invigorated, salesman, so to speak.

Well, actually, I do believe the latter might be able to scrounge up a slightly higher pledge total, but the former is just so much better for your business long-term.

Honestly I'd rather see a company run out of stretch goals and say "that's it guys, while I'll take more of your money, I have what I need for this project and this is ALL I can get done and out to you on time." You don't have to be the next zombicide. Keeping some of these extra stretch goals for the next KS might be wise as well.

The extra parts sound very manageable and already planned. Looks perfect to me

Have a look at some the new pieces for the Bugbear Ironshield available when our new Kickstarter launches! For those that pledged in our last campaign the Loyalty Helm is FREE!

Nicely done!

I'm especially liking the alternate weapons!

Looks very tasty there Kaine

Why thanks! We should have the renders soon!

Wow, agreed- those alternate parts are impressive! Excellent way to get folks to want (and have use for) more than one copy of each miniature

I will post some of the new creatures soon too!

Its been a while since I have posted but here are the additional Flesh Golem parts.

We wanted to add some bits that looked like they had been hacked from other mysterious creatures of the Underdeep, a true chaotic creature where the parts don't seem to fit!

I particularly like the Deathmask and the Monster Arm!

All this stuff is being 3D rendered as we speak and I should have some models to show you in the next few days. Not long till the relaunch!!

I like that deathmask

The Death Mask seems to be getting a lot of attention on our FB page too!

I think the weak part of the flesh golem for me is the guts hanging out (on the render) as they don't seem as convincing as some other similar sculpts. But the accessory part pics look varied and cool.

That Death Mask is pretty cool. Some interesting choice parts there.

I too have never been of fan of hanging guts and innards either.

Still waiting for those lizards!

The guts thing does seem to be a point of contest. Some like it loads and some like it less. We discussed guts quite a lot when designing these models and we wanted to give the Zombie Abominations a zombie feel throughout the range. We decided on giving all the creatures a similar look and a link to life that once was. Guts seemed like a good unifying option. It also has an intrinsic link to another range of demons who like guts and pus and buboes too. We thought this link might make the Zombie Abominations appeal to a wider audience.

Maybe a stretch goal could be a gut-plate option to cover up the...guts?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Still waiting for those lizards!

Really?

That Alpharius is an awesome idea!

Let me think on it!

The Deathscale art is nearly done! Give me a few days!

A gut plate is a cool idea.

How long is this campaign going to be?

I hope it spills into November. Please let it spill into November- another month, another paycheck!

It will run for 30 days and it will probably start between the 17th and 20th of this month.

Oh those are nice options for the flesh golem. I mean I knew I would buy a couple, but jesus those are nice.

As to the guts, the thing about the golem is it needs to be large and more intimidating. Due to the nature of the soft tissues in the lower abdomen, they are one of the first things to decompose and fall out of the body. And due to their relative unimportance to combat, they wouldn't have a place in throwing together a giant walking corpse.

That being said, it is less intimidating to have a giant model with a sucked in/hollow stomach area, so I understand having something there to fill it out.

Having a "gut-plate" may be a nice way of changing it. Personally, I don't feel that having it be a metal plate/armor piece would really fit the aesthetic of throwing a monster together. I feel that either having a "normal sized" rib cage or a bunch of bones sutured together would really look nice.

Just to clarify, I was talking about the aesthetic of the guts/entrails themselves, not the fact that they are there . I totally get that this is a thing for decrepit models in wargaming, and have no problem with the concept of guts hanging out, just thought the detailing on that part could be improved a bit. Although a gut plate is an interesting idea, and could make for a nice conversion to vary up the models a bit if getting multiples of those.

 Alpharius wrote:
Maybe a stretch goal could be a gut-plate option to cover up the...guts?

Exact same thing I thought as I read my way down. Just like the gut-plate options that the OK models come with.


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 RivenSkull wrote:

Having a "gut-plate" may be a nice way of changing it. Personally, I don't feel that having it be a metal plate/armor piece would really fit the aesthetic of throwing a monster together. I feel that either having a "normal sized" rib cage or a bunch of bones sutured together would really look nice.

The design of the zombies already features armour bolted onto them. Despite the lack of importance of the guts/innards on a reanimated corpse, you still want to keep the thing together, so a gutplate would aid stability - all the weight not being soley on the spine - so you avoid your golems falling in half.

 Azazelx wrote:
The design of the zombies already features armour bolted onto them. Despite the lack of importance of the guts/innards on a reanimated corpse, you still want to keep the thing together, so a gutplate would aid stability - all the weight not being soley on the spine - so you avoid your golems falling in half.

I really enjoyed this description . Clearly, the necromancer who re-animated this thing didn't plan ahead!

I liked the idea of the belly just being sutured together with bones and random bits of debris.

But if the hulk is going to have that fancy pants death mask, it's going to need some fancy pants armor to go with it.

That sentence makes me think of those Laura Numeroff books, "If you give a mouse a cookie."

"If you give a hulk a death mask, chances are he's going to ask for a gut plate to go with it."

RiTides wrote:I really enjoyed this description . Clearly, the necromancer who re-animated this thing didn't plan ahead!

Azazelx wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:

Having a "gut-plate" may be a nice way of changing it. Personally, I don't feel that having it be a metal plate/armor piece would really fit the aesthetic of throwing a monster together. I feel that either having a "normal sized" rib cage or a bunch of bones sutured together would really look nice.

The design of the zombies already features armour bolted onto them. Despite the lack of importance of the guts/innards on a reanimated corpse, you still want to keep the thing together, so a gutplate would aid stability - all the weight not being soley on the spine - so you avoid your golems falling in half.

This is also true.

I know the zombies all have the bolted on armor look to them, which I love, but I think that for something that has the feel of "Take a bit of this, and a bit of that, a bit of that thing, now throw them together" it would be nice to have something acting as armor to be another thing they sewed in there. Hell it even fits with the non planned necromancer thing

"Oh feth it's falling apart there. gak gak gak what can I grab?!"

I think that a nice fanged maw would make for an interesting fashion statement. Adding an additional weapon in leu of those rather superfluous guts seems like something a necromancer would do. Maybe something squid like to go along with the tentacle arms?

I received the first render last night of the Bugbear Ironshield Boneshard Shield.



More to come very shortly!!