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How do!

We’ve two new reveal shows coming up. 16/17 May is the new AoS Boxed Set. 18 May other stuff.





Saturday is looking good for me, as that’s three of the systems I play.

Ah yes the Saturday preview of I assume/hope:

- New 40k roadmap + a sister
- 30k preview of mechanicum
- necromunda secundus/new edition
- LI rocking a "lol I hope you like buying supplements"

Well, we know the next supplement book will be packing rules for the Termites. And I think we’ve seen another unit it’ll feature, but I can’t properly recall.

Nice, I'm on a road trip going to a Kings of War picnic & casual tourney on the 18th, the new Skaven will give complete strangers something to talk about over beer and ribs.

AOS - In front of live audiences they'll be proudly announcing the retirement of more models and factions. Truely a remarkable event for them, Texas and Nottingham, and for us as well as the rest of the world.

30K - Mechanicum.
Legions - New supplement that makes use of the Titan and Knight bundles that have yet to be released. Possibly all-aircraft battles...
40K - No idea, but Imperial Knights are painfully missing the character keyword for Armigers. Not something they can hold off on for much longer, but for now I'm guessing that it'll be Blood Angels or Eldar.
Necromunda - something to do with Gene-cults, Van-Saar and a bit of dungeon crawling? Necro-Quest would be ****ing huge news...

SamusDrake wrote:

40K - No idea, but Imperial Knights are painfully missing the character keyword for Armigers. Not something they can hold off on for much longer, but for now I'm guessing that it'll be Blood Angels or Eldar.

I strongly suspect it'll time in with the mechanicum knight drops and we'll get the cerastus, moirax and mechanicum variants offered as the releases for 40k knights of both flavours as their "mandatory minimum 1 model"

I approve of them specifying exactly which games will be covered in the announcement - had a mild hope for something for BB, though.

Hopefully we’ll finally get a peek at the Marine Assault Weapon sprue. That’s the last thing on the previous roadmap.

Dudeface wrote:

I strongly suspect it'll time in with the mechanicum knight drops and we'll get the cerastus, moirax and mechanicum variants offered as the releases for 40k knights of both flavours as their "mandatory minimum 1 model"

Plastic mechanicum knights would be friggin' cool. The moirax is definitely a kit I'd like to have, if part of the 40K codices for Knights.

SamusDrake wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

I strongly suspect it'll time in with the mechanicum knight drops and we'll get the cerastus, moirax and mechanicum variants offered as the releases for 40k knights of both flavours as their "mandatory minimum 1 model"

Plastic mechanicum knights would be friggin' cool. The moirax is definitely a kit I'd like to have, if part of the 40K codices for Knights.

I had really, really hoped to see the Moirax make an appearance with the 40k AdMech book. It would have been a nice little thing to see added.

Personal speculation for the reveals:

40k: GSC and Sisters Battleforces revealed. Tease for the "Redacted" book(99.99% sure it's Guard, with a DKoK army box)
Newcromunda: Reveal of whatever we got teased last. New campaign arc? New big box? Newcromunda Quest, set in the Genestealer infested hive?
No idea what to expect for Legions Imperialis.
30k: Announcement of a new campaign book, announcement of a Mechanicum Battlegroup, tease of some additional Solar Auxilia stuff.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well, we know the next supplement book will be packing rules for the Termites. And I think we’ve seen another unit it’ll feature, but I can’t properly recall.

With it being on a preview stream I reckon LI will get something a bit more substantial than a supplement book & box(es) of tanks. They can show those things off by just resuming the Heresy Thursday articles.

More likely it's going to be a milestone release like a battle force box containing new infantry (like the HH MK3 set), or even Admech.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I had really, really hoped to see the Moirax make an appearance with the 40k AdMech book. It would have been a nice little thing to see added.

They certainly look good together, and I wouldn't object to Ad-Mech and Imperial Knights being placed in the same codex.

I mean, they could also throw an absolute curveball and announce a plastic Warhound.

Supposedly, it was going to be the Lord of War option for Skitarii/Cult Mechanicus.

I would sink an awful lot on a Necromunda version of warhammer Quest! Where is this rumour arising from?

 Kanluwen wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

I strongly suspect it'll time in with the mechanicum knight drops and we'll get the cerastus, moirax and mechanicum variants offered as the releases for 40k knights of both flavours as their "mandatory minimum 1 model"

Plastic mechanicum knights would be friggin' cool. The moirax is definitely a kit I'd like to have, if part of the 40K codices for Knights.

I had really, really hoped to see the Moirax make an appearance with the 40k AdMech book. It would have been a nice little thing to see added.

Personal speculation for the reveals:

40k: GSC and Sisters Battleforces revealed. Tease for the "Redacted" book(99.99% sure it's Guard, with a DKoK army box)
Newcromunda: Reveal of whatever we got teased last. New campaign arc? New big box? Newcromunda Quest, set in the Genestealer infested hive?
No idea what to expect for Legions Imperialis.
30k: Announcement of a new campaign book, announcement of a Mechanicum Battlegroup, tease of some additional Solar Auxilia stuff.

I think we're 99.999% sure it's Imperial Agents given the leaked pages from the printers we've seen. Guard are rumoured to be more towards the end of the year.
The big question will be whether Deathwatch and Grey Knights are being wrapped up into it or if the pages we saw just happen to be providing background on the chambers militant for the inquisitors in the book...

I reeeeeeeally doubt that it's Imperial Agents, given that we saw leaked pages. That feels more and more like Valrak & Co latching onto the fact that the slot says "REDACTED". They always seem to forget/ignore that GW uses that for a placeholder.


If we saw leaked codices? Different story. But what was leaked were the possible layouts for Imperial Agents. No page #'s, nothing that indicated it was a "finished" product.

 Flinty wrote:
I would sink an awful lot on a Necromunda version of warhammer Quest! Where is this rumour arising from?

Speculation at best, and certainly not a case of "I know this chap who's best mates with someone at GW". That said in the trailer it says "join the expedition", which is the term used for a quest in Blackstone Fortress, and apparently we're going underground in the ash-wastes where its crawling with genestealer cults( certainly a threat to all life on Necromunda ). Not up on the Necromunda lore, but apparently there's Van-saar models in the earlier trailer and I'm guessing that they're up for all that archeotech hunting as well.

BSF is also an 8th edition product from late 2018, its narrative long wrapped up, and after five years I'm guessing that GW will want to move on to a new 40K-related product. Questmunda would be a win-win situation for not only Necromunda and BSF fans, but also GW themselves as they can draw upon Necromunda's considerable range of models which don't see use in the other 40K games.




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 Tastyfish wrote:


I think we're 99.999% sure it's Imperial Agents given the leaked pages from the printers we've seen. Guard are rumoured to be more towards the end of the year.
The big question will be whether Deathwatch and Grey Knights are being wrapped up into it or if the pages we saw just happen to be providing background on the chambers militant for the inquisitors in the book...

If they keep adding factions then it would make sense to bundle the smaller ones together.

I can't see it being Necro-quest to be honest. A more developed Zone Mortalis ruleset using the Boarding Actions terrain maybe.

40k will the jump pack Canoness and the Genestealer Cult pysker with maybe a reveal of what the redacted codex is but not much from it.

First Primarch for Legions Imperialis maybe? The rumour was Perturabo.

Horus Heresy will be the Mechanicum I expect, and maybe another Knight.

Regarding the Agents leak, I assumed it was less "redacted" and more that we've seen something physical.

Two months shipping, month for the actual print run and another month or two back and forth for the test prints, final confirmation prints and go ahead from GW feels like that matches up with how Peachy has described the window for getting everything ready to "send off" to the printers as far as the studio guys would be concerned (specifically mini-painting and photography etc).

If we were seeing those test prints or the later confirmation ones in the leak in March, that'd line up with a final product being shipped back in time for something coming out late June-July.

Feels like it would kind of fit the third Summer release with Genestealers and Sisters coming out before the new AoS edition, and Imperial Agents then coming out after that just before the school holidays (which are generally quiet months).

A big guard release definitely feels more like a "return to 40K" in the release cycle, once summer is over and getting into the lead up til Christmas.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I reeeeeeeally doubt that it's Imperial Agents, given that we saw leaked pages. That feels more and more like Valrak & Co latching onto the fact that the slot says "REDACTED". They always seem to forget/ignore that GW uses that for a placeholder.


If we saw leaked codices? Different story. But what was leaked were the possible layouts for Imperial Agents. No page #'s, nothing that indicated it was a "finished" product.

Those were printed pages, from a commercial printing house. You can tell by the printers' marks around the edge of the pages. The pages are produced like that for printing staff to check the quality of the print before the pages are folded, gathered, trimmed and bound. So, in short, that was a finished codex, barring the very final stages of the printing and binding process.

 The Phazer wrote:


First Primarch for Legions Imperialis maybe? The rumour was Perturabo.

Given their size, they could probably do two sets of Primarchs - loyalist and traitor.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Regarding the Agents leak, I assumed it was less "redacted" and more that we've seen something physical.

As soon as that "REDACTED" showed up, people started insisting it was Inquisition or Agents. Looooooooooooong before the leaks.

Two months shipping, month for the actual print run and another month or two back and forth for the test prints, final confirmation prints and go ahead from GW feels like that matches up with how Peachy has described the window for getting everything ready to "send off" to the printers as far as the studio guys would be concerned (specifically mini-painting and photography etc).

If we were seeing those test prints or the later confirmation ones in the leak in March, that'd line up with a final product being shipped back in time for something coming out late June-July.

You're missing the important bit:
That's assuming that stuff is going out as soon as it comes in.

Which we know isn't the case, as some of their other painters have said "I painted X/Y/Z for the studio years ago, good to see it finally releasing!".

Feels like it would kind of fit the third Summer release with Genestealers and Sisters coming out before the new AoS edition, and Imperial Agents then coming out after that just before the school holidays (which are generally quiet months).

GSC & Sisters are unlikely to come out "before", but likely alongside of or immediately after. It's not unheard of if you go and look at the release schedule last year alongside of 10E.

Last year, they started AoS' "path to a new edition" the day after Leviathan dropped, with June 25th(a Sunday) announcing the first Dawnbringers book & bundles.

A big guard release definitely feels more like a "return to 40K" in the release cycle, once summer is over and getting into the lead up til Christmas.

Assuming the rumored June 22nd release date is true, we could easily see Guard army set in July, with the first AoS battletome in August.

Because this is an important thing to note:
I'm not saying a full Guard release that quickly. I'm saying an army set going up, then the actual release months later.

 xttz wrote:
With it being on a preview stream I reckon LI will get something a bit more substantial than a supplement book & box(es) of tanks. They can show those things off by just resuming the Heresy Thursday articles.

More likely it's going to be a milestone release like a battle force box containing new infantry (like the HH MK3 set), or even Admech.

That it will contain an expansion book should be self evident.

Mechanicum would be the most likely "next faction" but I'm not sure they're ready to pull that trigger yet. Termites and other boring vehicles would fit though...

 Kanluwen wrote:

You're missing the important bit:
That's assuming that stuff is going out as soon as it comes in.

Which we know isn't the case, as some of their other painters have said "I painted X/Y/Z for the studio years ago, good to see it finally releasing!".

You're confusing the production process (painting miniatures, taking photographs, writing and editing text, laying out pages) with the print process. Production might take place many months ahead of release, but the leaks showed printed pages, from a commercial printworks, of the kind which are about to be turned into finished, bound books. Printed product won't be sat on for very long once completed, because it's just taking up warehouse space and not recouping any of the print costs. None of that means the Imperial Agents will feature in any upcoming preview, of course (because who knows who decides what is previewed when and why), but what's shown in the leaks is consistent with a printed book which would be ready for release imminently.

Books/tokens are definitely going to be the last thing produced for a release as they produced third party and generally rely on everything else happening earlier - a bunch of 'delayed' releases like you mention are probably going to be due to missing the cut due to production delays or things just not being finished in time for the book deadline.

Find out soon enough I suppose, and a huge part will be whether this is also when a Primaris scale update happens for the 2-3 Grey Knight units.

Are we expecting a Krieg box? Rumour engines give us a flag and a minefield, but also ratlings and there's something jump scion/RT era jump pack guys floating out perhaps for Kill Team?

The Roadmap we have is specifically labelled a Codex Roadmap, and didn't include the Kroot but did include the later Tau release. That also makes me feel things are more towards a quick (May)/June/July/Aug set of books and limited figures rather than something major with a book.

Might even be Agents AND Guard. Or Blood Angels.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Books/tokens are definitely going to be the last thing produced for a release as they produced third party and generally rely on everything else happening earlier - a bunch of 'delayed' releases like you mention are probably going to be due to missing the cut due to production delays or things just not being finished in time for the book deadline.

Find out soon enough I suppose, and a huge part will be whether this is also when a Primaris scale update happens for the 2-3 Grey Knight units.

We'll certainly see what happens, but with Grey Knights anyone's guess.

Are we expecting a Krieg box? Rumour engines give us a flag and a minefield,

As a specific box? Maybe not. But more Krieg stuff? Definitely. There was art of Krieg Engineers(a unit notably missing from both Legends and the Imperial Armour Compendium, despite having the models still up for sale) in Octarius. Their transfer sheet was also pretty extensive and covered a good chunk of stuff not in the Death Korps of Krieg squad set.

but also ratlings

Ratlings were speculated from a series of Rumor Engines. Two of the three were for the Votann Kill-Team, and one is insisted by some to be a pie in a crate full of explosives.

and there's something jump scion/RT era jump pack guys floating out perhaps for Kill Team?

That's Valrak speculation, as far as I'm aware. He kept waffling about "SEASON OF FLYERS!11!"...and then promptly was made to look the fool.

The Roadmap we have is specifically labelled a Codex Roadmap, and didn't include the Kroot but did include the later Tau release.

Kroot went up for preorder in March. They announced them before that, but after the Tau codex was finalized for a spot.

Army sets go up in advance of the general army release.

That also makes me feel things are more towards a quick (May)/June/July/Aug set of books and limited figures rather than something major with a book.

Like I said earlier, there's a window built-in before the actual releases for the new edition will start. It's enough for a few battleforce+codex(with a figure locked in) sets and then an army set after the first battletomes.

Hopefully the 30k melee weapons will finally be shown. Ridiculous that they haven't been released two years into the Heresy 2.0

Looking forward to seeing the Sigmarine half of the launch box. As for the other reveal, Horus Heresy might be interesting if it's Mechanicus and I am curious what the Necromunda thing is going to be for it to get a teaser. That usually heralds something substantial.

 Dysartes wrote:
I approve of them specifying exactly which games will be covered in the announcement - had a mild hope for something for BB, though.

People who pay closer attention may be better able to say, but I got the impression that we've slowed down to a team release every six months instead of three as was the case for a long time. And we just got gnomes.

Feels way early for the next team that is not Khemri to be revealed.

I'm hoping before HH Mechanium that GW announces a few more Marine kits, especially to fill out the FA slot.

Krieg are going to be shown soon, if not this reveal then the next, as indicated by Infernalbrush upcoming tutorial.