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Druidic wrote:Well for me Maelstom is up the road, so may have to pop in for a look when they have stock

You should go to their store tomorrow and interrogate them thoroughly. After you've extracted the information come here and spill your beans =)

Surtur wrote:I was looking at some N scale terrain and I think I'd like to fight scourge vs shatari in this little 50's town:

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/NBuilt-N-ReadyStructures

Something about the B-movie vibe just makes me smile.

If you prefer the ultra-modern style:

http://www.katousa.com/N/Unitrack/structures.html

I'm hoping Hawk's buildings are fairly cheap (as I'd like to use them for HG) but I'm going to make a wild guess and say $20-30 for a two or three story building (ground level, roof, and one or two mid-levels) with additional levels costing $8 to $10. They're saying resin so I'm guessing each level will be rotocast with a floor and ceiling...essentially a hollow box. Having played 12mm games like Heavy Gear its hard to simulate multiple city blocks cheaply, unlike 28mm where you're fighting over a smaller space. Foam-core (and card buildings) to the rescue!


Edit: Actually it looks like the buildings may be similar to CoD, guess that's what they mean by tile system. Look great though.

coyotius wrote:

Surtur wrote:I was looking at some N scale terrain and I think I'd like to fight scourge vs shatari in this little 50's town:

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/NBuilt-N-ReadyStructures

Something about the B-movie vibe just makes me smile.

If you prefer the ultra-modern style:

http://www.katousa.com/N/Unitrack/structures.html

I'm hoping Hawk's buildings are fairly cheap (as I'd like to use them for HG) but I'm going to make a wild guess and say $20-30 for a two or three story building (ground level, roof, and one or two mid-levels) with additional levels costing $8 to $10. They're saying resin so I'm guessing each level will be rotocast with a floor and ceiling...essentially a hollow box. Having played 12mm games like Heavy Gear its hard to simulate multiple city blocks cheaply, unlike 28mm where you're fighting over a smaller space. Foam-core (and card buildings) to the rescue!


Edit: Actually it looks like the buildings may be similar to CoD, guess that's what they mean by tile system. Look great though.

Those are really nice - and really expensive.

I'm afraid the Hawk buildings will be similarly priced - at least the resin versions.

He did mention card versions too though...

Website has been ammended, all army deals now come with a deck of 40 command cards. (£5 seperate).

I really wish we knew something about army lists. I'm ready to order, just want to make sure I'll be able to use all my models at once! Don't want to buy two of something if there a one per army type thing.

Also wondering about the rules for dropships? Can save a little cash if everything doesn't need to be dropshipped in.

I really dig the UCM.

Had a stupid idea: Museum scale or 28mm scale model kits with some infantry. (As a limited release/these are just cool models sorta thing.)

For the PHR, a Type-2 chassis with weapons options for Odin, Hyperion, and Enyo (and maybe Zeus) with five Immortals.

UMC, a heavy tank chassis with options for either a Gladius or Scimitar and five Legionnaires. Maybe a Wolverine, too, to even things up with the PHR and Shaltari.

Scourge get Slayer or Tormentor with three Razorworms (because they go together). And, again, maybe a Prowler or Minder.

And for the Shaltari, a Warstrider: Ocelot, Jaguar, or Coyote. No infantry, because it would be a big kit.

You will need Dropships (kinda the name of the game) Good luck getting to and moving objectives about without them, ground units aren't particularly fast...

I guess you could possibly play a game without dropships but you would be at a MASSIVE tactical disadvantage.

Cant say much more without breaching the ol' NDA im afraid,

I would say the large army deals are most similar to the forces i have used so should represent a balanced army. Dont forget that the army breaks down to detachments which are activated one at a time...

Orlanth wrote:Website has been ammended, all army deals now come with a deck of 40 command cards. (£5 seperate).

That kinda sucks for anyone who ordered them seperately

DiabolicAl wrote:You will need Dropships (kinda the name of the game) Good luck getting to and moving objectives about without them, ground units aren't particularly fast...

You can move objectives?

DiabolicAl wrote:You will need Dropships (kinda the name of the game) Good luck getting to and moving objectives about without them, ground units aren't particularly fast...

You can move objectives?

They touched on the ability to move objectives in the FAQ they did. You need a troop to capture it, but then you can move it to what ever.

ah yes, I think I saw that.

can't wait to get my rulebook and Scourge deck, I'm already starting work on Battlescribe files (got the Scourge and Shaltari done, but it's just units and weapons at the moment, no points or stats, obviously)

I really hope this takes off, just so that it will point out to the folks at GW how dumb they were to stop supporting Epic 40K.

I don't understand why so many are agonizing over whether to buy X army deal or Y army deal and whining over not knowing any of the rules. Just order the rule book only and when you've read it you can make a proper decision of what faction you like the most and what miniatures to buy. It's not like the miniatures are only produced in a limited run and there's a rush to get them. They'll be there in a few weeks/months as well



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warpcrafter wrote:I really hope this takes off, just so that it will point out to the folks at GW how dumb they were to stop supporting Epic 40K.

Indeed. That was my first ever game system and still the one I have most fond feelings for. I had over 30.000 points of eldar but then I went to Sparta and today I don't have a single mini left :(

I kind of feel like someone just said "Hey you know whats cool... Vents are cool we should put vents everywhere." If it were not for that I might have thought about getting into this game a bit more.

DiabolicAl wrote:

DiabolicAl wrote:You will need Dropships (kinda the name of the game) Good luck getting to and moving objectives about without them, ground units aren't particularly fast...

You can move objectives?

Prehaps i have said too much....

"moving objectives" means the game must be scenario driven, so this means you will have relocation and evacuation scenarios included in the game. Missions to relocate otherwise immobile assets, or insert or to extract, most likely the latter in most cases.


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Jones wrote:I kind of feel like someone just said "Hey you know whats cool... Vents are cool we should put vents everywhere." If it were not for that I might have thought about getting into this game a bit more.

Better vents than skullz.

Kaputt wrote:I don't understand why so many are agonizing over whether to buy X army deal or Y army deal and whining over not knowing any of the rules. Just order the rule book only and when you've read it you can make a proper decision of what faction you like the most and what miniatures to buy. It's not like the miniatures are only produced in a limited run and there's a rush to get them. They'll be there in a few weeks/months as well



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warpcrafter wrote:I really hope this takes off, just so that it will point out to the folks at GW how dumb they were to stop supporting Epic 40K.

Indeed. That was my first ever game system and still the one I have most fond feelings for. I had over 30.000 points of eldar but then I went to Sparta and today I don't have a single mini left :(

I don't think you understand how real life works, I WANT THEM ALL.

its looking like we might get the rules sometime in the next 1-2 weeks

I cant wait.,

Surtur wrote:Basic army deals save you:

UCM: 9.50p
Scourge: 4.50p
PHR: 5.00p
Shaltari: 6.50p

i make the ucm saving 14.50. and phr £10.00. i think you forgot the cammand decks included

Since that is a relatively new addition to the deals, I'm not sure he "forgot" them!

RiTides wrote:Yeah, I can't believe 1 guy sculpted, painted, took all those pics, put them on the site, etc etc...

He certainly makes GW look like a bunch of slackers.

The price seems a bit to much for my wallet atm, I'm used to cheaper stuff in 15mm's but I will get some of those for sure in the future. 60 quid would buy me insane ammounts of Khurasans minis and that is top priority now.

Alpharius wrote:Since that is a relatively new addition to the deals, I'm not sure he "forgot" them!

That's not an addition they where there on the deals from launch. They just are not pictured.

fox40 wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Since that is a relatively new addition to the deals, I'm not sure he "forgot" them!

That's not an addition they where there on the deals from launch. They just are not pictured.

You're thinking of the KR cases, not the command cards:

Cases: Part of the deals at launch, weren't pictured, are pictured now
Cards: Not part of deals at launch, weren't pictured, still aren't pictured

I read the deals carefully , they didn't include cards in the text until later.

Charax wrote:

fox40 wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Since that is a relatively new addition to the deals, I'm not sure he "forgot" them!

That's not an addition they where there on the deals from launch. They just are not pictured.

You're thinking of the KR cases, not the command cards:

Cases: Part of the deals at launch, weren't pictured, are pictured now
Cards: Not part of deals at launch, weren't pictured, still aren't pictured

It's a mute point but i saw the cards on the deals at 6am the morning they started.
Either way I think the deals are great buys.

moot point

and if you really want to get into the "well I saw it first" thing, look a few pages back in this thread at the first people to start discussing it when it opened at about 1am

Lots of guys at the store are planning to get into this . Mega army is tempting, but Large looks great.

Rules? Meh .. if I like the models I'll play the game even if the rules suck.. hell, i've been playing 40k for 20 years.....

ordered the PHR starter set, can't wait to paint em

Just had a look at the website. Figs look great and while the prices are a bit expensive, that's kind of what you expect for a boutique level product like this. Still, as nice as they are, they're not likely to lure me away from the mechwarrior minis that I've built my 10mm army from thus far.

I do hope that folks don't hold off buying the figs because the game isn't available yet. There are lots of great rulesets (like Future War Commander) that 10mm figs can be used for that existed before Dropzone Commander and will continue after Dropzone Commander.

As for terrain...

I highly recommend that in addition to n-scale terrain, folks have a look at HO scale industrial terrain (doesn't have as many regular buildings to compare scale with), 15mm sci-fi terrain which is often fairly scale neutral, and making terrain from toy buildings and other scraps.

Here's pics of some of the stuff I've used alongside the 10mm rebased MW figs I use them with.

Micro Machine building converted to sci-fi lab. More pics and how-to here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/352782.page



Light grey buildings and habs: free 15mm Heavy Gear paper buildings avaialble from the GF9 website.
Darker Grey wearhouse with tower and large building with landing pad are free Mechwarrior scaled (10mm) buildings found here:
http://www.dungeoncrawlers.com/files/paper-terrain/mechwarrior
Grey bases are pieces of vinyl floor tile unpainted except for the edges
Other buildings are scratchbuilt from various junk and bitz.
http://www.dungeoncrawlers.com/files/paper-terrain/mechwarrior