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**Alpharius**

pretre wrote:
Completionist pledge!

Yes?

Or are you on a phone?

**pretre**

I'm excited and I'm on a phone. The last update said they are thinking about a discounted 'one of everything' completionist pledge.

**.Mikes.**

pretre wrote:
I'm excited and I'm on a phone. The last update said they are thinking about a discounted 'one of everything' completionist pledge.

"Also coming up this week:

Tomorrow is Add-on Wednesday! Add-on Wednesday is that special time of the week where we release a number of cool add-ons to enhance your experience, each entirely optional but gives you more value and more bang for your buck.

And, we’re considering a new completionists pledge level to make getting all of the great new miniatures and scenery that little bit lighter on the wallet. What do you think?"

That'll do well. I have the feeling more are incoming though.

**pretre**

Exactly. Thanks!

I want one of those and wish there was one last time. There's still a couple models I never got. (Stuntbot!)

**Earth Dragon**

Please call the completionists pledge "Lock-Down".

That is all

**.Mikes.**

Just did some quick maths. Up to yesterday (being a full day) KoW2 had done $194,693 compared to DZ:I's $223,200.

**Earth Dragon**

If they start kicking out plastic kits for all factions this weekend: I really feel we'll get flying.

Some interesting stuff. From what I've heard, a 2nd faction is still obtainable what do we think it would be?

**angryboy2k**

monders wrote:
NTRabbit wrote:Now you see the downside to a no-restic project! These are the tings that restic is best at

Ridiculous amounts of flash and warped casts?!

Alpharius wrote:So be it!

Death to Mantic's Restic!

INDEED!

I'm buying everything for the Veer-myn that's not PVC. I'm taking nothing from this KS that is in PVC.
It won't be enough to send a message to Mantic that there is indeed a market for metal, resin and HIPS, but at least I will have stuck to my principles. I'd rather have quality than cheap crap that looks like cheap crap.

**.Mikes.**

I don't think anything in this KS is in PVC. Have I missed something? From memory the vast majority is in HP, a few metal and one restic.

Just to clarify, PVC is the board game style plastic, like Reaper Bones, is that right?

**Earth Dragon**

The only stuff in Restic is legacy add-ons. Nothing new will be.

Some of us just feel things like the bubble blower of doom would have worked in PVC/restic better. Folks gotta remember that those bigger models are just gonna cost more in resin though. It's been a while since I really been around to price, but that VM artillery is gonna be around $9-10 material cost for the model. It's the other reason they haven't been able to make the base pledge fatter with veer-myn. The entire mass of plastic kits in the base pledge (minus scenery) is probably around that cost at this point.

So for me, I'd really like to get onto that plastic, which I feel brings more backers in as it expands the old factions and let's them put more on offer in the pledge packages.

Let's hope add-on Wednesday really helps us push forward. Gotta get those iron warriors.

**angryboy2k**

.Mikes. wrote:
I don't think anything in this KS is in PVC. Have I missed something? From memory the vast majority is in HP, a few metal and one restic.

Just to clarify, PVC is the board game style plastic, like Reaper Bones, is that right?

So-called "restic" is PVC. I won't use the stupid word, any more than I'll buy the crappy stuff that it represents.

Earth Dragon wrote:

Some of us just feel things like the bubble blower of doom would have worked in PVC/restic better.

If by better, you mean "cheaper", you're right. It'll also be covered with carelessly-placed mold lines that have to be cut away with a knife, it'll look like gak because the plastic shrinks back from the mold taking the detail with it, and it'll suck out your soul as you spend six hours cleaning and sculpting to try and make it look right. Then you'll realize that the six hours you wasted cleaning it up could have been spent working part time at the local convenience store, making enough money for a real (i.e. resin) one and having enough change to buy some beer to wash away your sadness.

**GrimDork**

Wow. Were you uhh... wronged...by Restic(PVC) as a child?

Some strong feelings there.

Honestly I like the material just fine, it's not perfect but it does work well for the larger infantry/monsters/things, and I'd rather have it for stuff that goes on 40mm+ bases than metal, most of the time.

Guess I just have a thicker skin for cleaning mold lines or something?

Or perhaps I'm just an idiot for not being so picky about materials, oh well.

Goal is down to $1500, I'm not *expecting* to see it done in the morning, but surely sometime tomorrow. Curious as to what the materials roulette will end up with on the Aberration. If he's metal I guess I'll get him as the cost will be less. If he's resin, it'll probably be more than I'm willing to spend on it sight unseen.

**pretre**

Holy crap, GrimDork! I just saw your drop ship in te comments thread.

**GrimDork**

Haha, it's super WIP, there's a long way to go before it'll be doing what I want it to, but I'm glad I grabbed a forward outpost on sale for the extra long tiles. I really wish they'd sell those on their own.

**CptJake**

Earth Dragon wrote:

Some of us just feel things like the bubble blower of doom would have worked in PVC/restic better. Folks gotta remember that those bigger models are just gonna cost more in resin though.

I would rather have it cost more but be worth having. Compare it to my goblin gun tracks in wondrous restic, with mold lines everywhere, soft detail, and frankly just looking like crap and taking a lot of effort to make them half way decent, I'll take cleanly cast resin any time when it comes to items of this size.

The goofy looking super soaker on wheels in resin at least has a chance of showing decent detail and not having mold lines all over what soft detail it would have had as a restic product.

**Joyboozer**

Is this still one wave?

**scarletsquig**

Multiple waves, if people order original DZ stock as add-ons, they will ship immediately.

**NTRabbit**

Joyboozer wrote:
Is this still one wave?

I think the current force add-ons will make it a two wave thing, first wave exclusively already existing items, second wave the new stuff like in KoW2nd and DBX, but that's just an educated guess

**Alpharius**

GrimDork wrote:
Wow. Were you uhh... wronged...by Restic(PVC) as a child?

Some strong feelings there.

Honestly I like the material just fine, it's not perfect but it does work well for the larger infantry/monsters/things, and I'd rather have it for stuff that goes on 40mm+ bases than metal, most of the time.

Guess I just have a thicker skin for cleaning mold lines or something?

Or perhaps I'm just an idiot for not being so picky about materials, oh well.

Or maybe different people have...different opinions?

Although I've got to be honest here, I rarely see anyone extoll the virtues of Mantic's 'restic' when used for 'human sized' miniatures - and for good reason.

**NTRabbit**

Which is why we're all behind the hard plastic for line troops idea, otherwise know as the Warpath Initiative

In other news, the Rat Wagon funded! My favourite part of the Rat Wagon is the Rangefinder Rat, and the extra detail they've gone to to make a special scope that simulates binocular depth perception, because with an eye on each side of the head rats naturally only have monocular deoth perception.

Update #21 from Deadzone: Infestation Sci-fi Skirmish Game

Apr 1 2015
A Beast is Born
That’s done it! The Veer-myn Heavy Chem-Thrower is locked in!

We’ve put together a new Veer-myn Booster including the Heavy Chem-Thrower and the Progenitor, which you can include as your choice of free booster in Quarantine.

Alternatively you can add it on for $25.

Up Next!

NEW! Stretch Goal $240,000 Plague First Gen Aberration

For one of the greatest threats facing it, the Galactic Co-Prosperity Sphere knows little about the Plague. There are many first and second hand oral accounts on outbreak incidents stored in the Council’s Exo-Threat Counteraction Unit (those who provide them are often retired afterwards for their own good), but very little solid scientific evidence.

Two of the biggest questions posed by the ETCU is ‘How can the Plague be so comprehensibly virulent?’ and, ‘Why do not all first contact creatures become First Generation Infected?’ Because not all do. Whether it be a flaw in the subject’s genetic code, or some kind of switch within the Plague itself, limiting the number of First Gen Infected, some of those in first contact with a Plague Artefact do not mutate into a Stage One. Their fate is much worse.

Post Containment studies have found that the individuals who change into what have become known as Aberrations, show signs that the mutation followed the same initial stages as those who turn into First Generations; the massive stature and chitinous skin the most telling factors. But at some undefined stage the transformation ceases and begins to fall apart.

Though the victim continues to grow, the mutation forces the host to a hunched, almost quadrupedal stature (it bears noting that Stage One Infected will follow the host’s locomotive nature in all other cases). The end result is an immense, infected creature which does not demonstrate the purposeful nature within the rest of an Infected population. That is to say, it does not seek to spread the Plague, instead it seems to be driven by rabid ferocity and nothing more. One aspect of the Aberration which has sparked some interest in GCPS scientists is the creature seems not to be a vector for the Plague; it cannot infect other creatures. Given that any creature it comes across usually does not survive may or may not be a factor in this.

Addendum: Dr Yoshio Ikeda of the Lu-Fan Conglomerate has been recorded discussing a theory that the quadrupedal nature of the Aberration is a reflection of the true shape of the as-yet unknown race which developed the Plague. A note has been added to Dr. Ikeda’s file and he will be ‘recruited’ to the Council’s Science Division soon.

The First Gen Aberration is a monstrous Plague beast. The miniature is cast in resin and mounted on a 60mm base.

You can include it free in Quarantine if you pick the new Plague Booster. This new $25 booster includes one large resin First Gen Aberration and 5 incredible hard plastic Plague Zombies, which will be available as a Plague unit choice in the updated rules.

Annnndddd…

Speaking of Plague Zombies, one of the most fantastic deals we did on the last Deadzone Kickstarter was our incredible offer on purchasing sets of them.

And it’s now back!

For $15 get 20 terrifying Hard Plastic Zombies – and if you pledge for 3 sets, we’ll give you a fourth set free!

We’ll be back a little later today with Add-on Wednesday. Let us know what you want to see in the comments!

**GrimDork**

So the hard plastic zombies deal is back, should make some folks happy?

I think I'm gonna let the Aberration slide, the last thing I need is more zombies, and while $25 probably isn't necessarily overpriced for what it is... I'm not otherwise going around buying fancy resin minis, especially not those I have only concept art to go off of. Maybe pledge manager, maybe not. Does seem pretty cool though.

Kind of wonder why he's a 10k stretch as opposed to the seemingly more complicated bubbleblower's 5k, but maybe they're just trying to space things out a bit more as we get closer to time (which is kind of... meh? at best).

**Siygess**

Well, I'm in at Quarantine level. Anyone want to buy the Veer-myn? Rat men just aren't my thing

**pretre**

Dammit. The Aberration is cool and now I want it.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Aberration is kind of like a Stage 1Z?

Wish he came with something other than Zombies, I've got more than enough already.

**pretre**

MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Aberration is kind of like a Stage 1Z?

Wish he came with something other than Zombies, I've got more than enough already.

Agreed, but I'm still going to get it.

I bit the bullet and added enough for the Chem and the Plague boosters. Up to $260.

**Talking Banana**

Glad I never went overboard with zombies before; the Aberration concept looks pretty good.

**Psychopomp**

These boosters are gonna add up on me in the pledge manager...

**lord_blackfang**

So far I think I'm good with just the one free booster (the bubble chukka, probably).

**timetowaste85**

Since the old metal rat progenitor was put up for add-on wednesday, I asked if the plague version might be added as well, since it would tie in with the plastic zombies being re-released. It may have been swallowed up in the comments though. The one with a sickle, aka not-Typhus.

**pretre**

Oooh expansion sprues!