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Davylove21 wrote:

Could I trouble someone to show Regal Blue next to Kantor Blue or whatever the equivalent is now? It's kind of important to my Crimson Fists!

As a fellow fist player I can tell you that RB and KB are near identical, although I've noticed the new base paints dry a lot quicker!

Excellent! I did some side by side with them today and I couldn't tell the difference!

Mephiston Red is much brighter than Mechrite Red.

Luckily, Vallejo 72012 Scarlett Red seems to match perfectly

Evil Suns Scarlet is a layer paint, rather than a base paint... so it's meant to be applied over a base such as Mephiston Red or Khorne Red. Generally if you're doing helmets, I'd start with a Mephiston Red base, and then apply the Evil Suns Scarlet... it will save you time in terms of multiple layers...

While I'm at it, here's how Mephiston Red airbrushed over black primer:



I've not done any washes or additional layers yet.

I have used the lamenters yellow glaze and it realy brightens up the Tau Sept ochre. The only other new paint I have used is the newer black wash. Sorry, don't know the name off the top of my head, not near my paints. The new black wash is great. gives that grimy oil look to any grey paint or primer.

Fezman wrote:Has anyone tried Averland Sunset, and if so, how good is it? How well does it cover a black undercoat?

I brought a pot on the weekend. Sorry, no idea about black because I base in white. Its a nice colour, almost "out of the box" Imperial Fist yellow. The coverage seemed pretty good on the surface I was working on, I'd "guess" that two straight coats over a cured black would probably take and do the trick if you wanted a darker yellow base.

I've also got a pot of that stuff I think is called "technical" which is a neutral base. I got it to coat over decals to get rid of sheen because it dries flat. I was experimenting by putting colour through it, in theory you can make your own washes and glazes out of solid colour paints since it dilutes without "washing out" colour. I only did black to further reduce the shine on the deals and blend them into a model more closely, no water, but it will take it if you need to thin it.

Its good stuff.

I agree re the lid issue though. I'm not a fan.

I used my Ravenwing bikes to try out the new paints, and I have to say the results are much better than expected.

Ceramite white went over black primer in 2 thinned coats, and looked great. I then added a thinned blue wash for shading, and drybrushed over with praxeti white for a good result.
I also found that highlighting black quickly is really easy. A light drybrush of longbeard grey, followed by 2 coats of nuln oil to tone it down. Looks pretty good on marine armour, especially around the helmet/shoulders.

My only issue is the 'triangle' bit on the back of the pot that I guess is meant to hold the lid up. It takes some force to get the lid over it to stay open, and when you do it tends to get stuck there when you close the pot again, keeping it slightly open.

xttz wrote:My only issue is the 'triangle' bit on the back of the pot that I guess is meant to hold the lid up. It takes some force to get the lid over it to stay open, and when you do it tends to get stuck there when you close the pot again, keeping it slightly open.

I'm not sure what you mean here. When I tried out the paints in the shop, I just opened the pot and it stayed open for me, no forcing the lid over the shark fin, just the fin's presence kept the lid at a decent angle.


Pic from GW website

Either way, I'm pretty sure it's not meant to do that, so if the fin is misformed in some way, maybe you should take it back to the shop?

I dont know if anyone's asked this yet but how do the paints interact with other brands in terms of mixing? Im assuming it wouldnt be much different but ya never know.

They made dry brushing easier

I like the textures and the imperial primer. The bases are a bit thicker too. Over all an upgrade.

Has anyone else had problems with Shinning Golds' replacement Gehenna's Gold? I picked one up last week and when I opened it, it looked like Red die had been poured into it. I mixed it up but it still has a pools of red. The other pots in-store looked like they had the same issues. I don't know if its meant to be this way. Also it mixes with water and other paint very poorly.

I bought the starter paint set and used the imperial primer on one of the dark angels from the box. The primer rubbed off on the spots where I would hold the model while painting other areas. Gonna do another one to see how my old primer works to see if it might be a coating on the model.

Yodhrin wrote:

Rickfactor wrote:Not a favorable review.

Why do people keep posting this video despite the evident issues with it which have been pointed out all over the place now. Once more with feeling; reviewer is an airbrush painter, dislikes GW, applies the paint differently depending on whether it's old or new, and contradicts his own footage on at least two occasions(says new Bases cover worse than Foundations, then shows Mephiston clearly covering better than Mechrite; and claims new metallics cover worse and have larger pigments, then shows Leadbelcher and Boltgun side by side with no evident difference other than the tone).

I really really wish I could be a bittervet about these paints, but they're no worse than the old ones for experienced painters, and are far far superior for beginners.

they post it because this guy seems to viewed as some sort of painting god by alot of people. i'm not really sure why? fast but sloppy and i notice he doesnt post many close ups. overrated.

kb305 wrote:

Yodhrin wrote:

Rickfactor wrote:Not a favorable review.

Why do people keep posting this video despite the evident issues with it which have been pointed out all over the place now. Once more with feeling; reviewer is an airbrush painter, dislikes GW, applies the paint differently depending on whether it's old or new, and contradicts his own footage on at least two occasions(says new Bases cover worse than Foundations, then shows Mephiston clearly covering better than Mechrite; and claims new metallics cover worse and have larger pigments, then shows Leadbelcher and Boltgun side by side with no evident difference other than the tone).

I really really wish I could be a bittervet about these paints, but they're no worse than the old ones for experienced painters, and are far far superior for beginners.

they post it because this guy seems to viewed as some sort of painting god by alot of people. i'm not really sure why? fast but sloppy and i notice he doesnt post many close ups. overrated.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/445641.page

Your argument is invalid.

Aerethan wrote:

kb305 wrote:

Yodhrin wrote:

Rickfactor wrote:Not a favorable review.

Why do people keep posting this video despite the evident issues with it which have been pointed out all over the place now. Once more with feeling; reviewer is an airbrush painter, dislikes GW, applies the paint differently depending on whether it's old or new, and contradicts his own footage on at least two occasions(says new Bases cover worse than Foundations, then shows Mephiston clearly covering better than Mechrite; and claims new metallics cover worse and have larger pigments, then shows Leadbelcher and Boltgun side by side with no evident difference other than the tone).

I really really wish I could be a bittervet about these paints, but they're no worse than the old ones for experienced painters, and are far far superior for beginners.

they post it because this guy seems to viewed as some sort of painting god by alot of people. i'm not really sure why? fast but sloppy and i notice he doesnt post many close ups. overrated.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/445641.page

Your argument is invalid.

meh. it looks like metallic paints with some wash on it with little to no further highlighting to me. the pics arnt the best, it doesnt really wow me. it is a decent job, dont get me wrong.

http://emperorscodex.blogspot.ca/2012/02/inspire-contemptor.html

kb305 wrote:they post it because this guy seems to viewed as some sort of painting god by alot of people. i'm not really sure why? fast but sloppy and i notice he doesnt post many close ups. overrated.

Have you seen how efficient he is? his brush strokes makes NO MISTAKES.

he also paint his stuff in real time, which is 5x faster than other youtube painters, at display level.

Not only that, he cares enough about us to give us tips and answer all our questions.

No hes not a god, but a genius and a saint <3

i will say that this liquid gold gak is starting to interest me a bit. it's selling the models for him. lol

Bakerofish wrote:I dont know if anyone's asked this yet but how do the paints interact with other brands in terms of mixing? Im assuming it wouldnt be much different but ya never know.

I've mixed black and white GW paints with P3 paints, it seems pretty good, definitely didn't notice anything wrong.

The new white definately covers better and seems less prone to chalkyness than the old. Shades are much closer to how the old inks worked than the washes they replaced.

I really wish they still had Devlin Mud though. That stuff is liquid Jesus in a bottle.

Has anyone else noticed that the evil sunz scarlet and blood red are noticeably different? The evil sunz seemed to have a slight orange tint to it and the blood red has a kind of shine on it when it dries.

I have used several colors extensively through my airbrush. The bases airbrush much more smoothly than the foundation series. There is far less clogging, cleaning, and diluting needed compared to the old foundations. They also don't separate as badly as the foundations: there's less "black gunk effect". Ceramite White and Abaddon Black are very useful for basecoating and I imagine I will be using them by the boatload.

I have used Averland Sunset, and it goes on as nicely and covers as well as the other paints I have tried. that being said, it is a poor match to Iyanden Darksun. Averland is much warmer/golden in tone than the mustardy Iyanden. Sadly I need to go scrounge more pots of Iyanden to finish my Imperial Fists. :(

Hi All,

I was wondering if someone or perhaps the OP could entertain a request.

I'm interested in seeing Sycorax Bronze shaded with Casandora Yellow, and glazed with Lamenter's Yellow. (Also slightly interested in Fuegan Orange).

Many thanks if you can help me out! You'll save me 9+ dollars in trial and error!

Ok, time to pipe in with my test.

As some know from P&M I have a very odd way of painting my nids - modified from an old WD article, substituting blue for the purple used.

So I decided to test the Drakenhof Nightshade 'Shade' in place of the Asurmen Blue I normally use.

Now what I did find was two things.

First, the shade has far, far better coverage. No awkward spots of white where it didn't reach....however, because of this it's certainly not as controlled as the wash was. It ended up pooling in places and also dripping. Blue fingers, not fun