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I'll say this much - for some reason the AoS team can do really well making a clean close combat segment of the game

Typical GW overcorrection. They changed the term "wounds" in a models profile to health to make it clearer/less confusing what's being referred to, but then also changed the term mortal wounds to mortal damage, etc so that confusion was a complete non-issue anyway.

On the whole though, really like what I've seen, especially the "unit roles" bit, though 1/2" coherency range sounds mental, as does the potential damage output of a unit of Kroxigor.

Wounds/wounding/to wound, etc only applies to the "to wound" step of attack resolution now.

Damage applies to, well, doing damage.

So it still clears up a potential confusion (the non-relation of Mortal Wounds vs a successful Wound, for example).

It's tidier to have all forms of damage refer to damage.

Also i do rather like that Vindicator ability that links iinto the weapon. They're a literal anvil unit now, should be fun to try ouit.

Some clarity is nice.

The bombshell for me is axing battleshock. Granted it wasn't a great system, but doubling down (again) on 'morale doesn't matter in wargames' still feels weird.

i'm not sure if i prefer axing morale entirely or using 40k's system (assuming it's a strict binary and there is no "keep it as it was" option)

Spin2Win

Dead Roll

KROXIBLENDERS GO BRRRR

Most say that i really hate how gm are doing the rules in the last few years. Look more and more like a ccg

Some Darkoath fluff https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/18/dont-listen-to-sigmar-the-darkoath-are-more-than-just-mindless-chaos-marauders/

And then some history of the great Skaven, yes-yes!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/18/a-complete-history-of-the-great-mighty-skaven/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/18/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-metawatch-swansong-for-an-epic-edition/

Final Battlescroll/Metawatch for 3rd edition for those interested

Didn't even look at it, probably will at lunchbreak but meh. Not even really been interested in playing, knowing that we're on the cusp of something new. Just been getting Kruleboyz together and hobbying them up in anticipation for the new hotness.


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 Scottywan82 wrote:
And then some history of the great Skaven, yes-yes!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/18/a-complete-history-of-the-great-mighty-skaven/

My favorite part :

When the World-that-Was was torn asunder, and the other gods made their escapes using their vast magic or by joyriding on broken bits of rock, the Great Horned Rat did something none of the other gods cared enough to do – he saved his children.

Protective father wasn't something that I had in mind when thinking of The Horned Rat!

If anyone’s gonna snuff his children. It’s him.

I mean I cant quite remember the quote but during the end times Either it was one of the Verminlords or the Great Horned rat that told the council of Thirteen "No matter what happens, Skavenblight must survive."

Basically the world was done and they knew it so everything the Skaven did after that point was to protect themselves and ensure their survival, one way or another.

Great Horned Rat is also interesting because he's a full Chaos God now, and yet the souls of Skaven don't go to him in the Warp, but to their own regular afterlife in the Realm of Death.

Also I don't think we've seen anything of the Great Horned Rat inside the Warp itself acting or doing anything. So we've a huge amount of potential there for him to do something really crazy to unsettle the rest of the Chaos Panteon.

I suspect that preserving his worshippers and race from the End Times gave the GHR a huge advantage over many other factions.

I still feel there needs to be an event where Slaanesh finally breaks free and goes absolutely ape against the GHR for sitting on its seat on the pantheon while it's been trapped.

 Overread wrote:
Great Horned Rat is also interesting because he's a full Chaos God now, and yet the souls of Skaven don't go to him in the Warp, but to their own regular afterlife in the Realm of Death.

Also I don't think we've seen anything of the Great Horned Rat inside the Warp itself acting or doing anything. So we've a huge amount of potential there for him to do something really crazy to unsettle the rest of the Chaos Panteon.

I suspect that preserving his worshippers and race from the End Times gave the GHR a huge advantage over many other factions.

If I recall correctly, following the end of the World-That-Was, Slaanesh slipped into a food coma and the other three got bored and wandered off. It wasn't until they noticed the Mortal Realms thriving that they knocked on Archaon's door and asked him to wreck the place.

Does GW release the Underworlds warbands separately?
I wouldnt mind getting the Deamonettes.

Usually and eventually. Although there are some that still haven't split off from their main box like the sons of velmorn. Which a lot of people are still after.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Usually and eventually. Although there are some that still haven't split off from their main box like the sons of velmorn. Which a lot of people are still after.

Ditto Ephallim's Panaemonium.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/19/cast-supreme-sorceries-and-chant-powerful-prayers-in-newaos/
4th edition magic/prayer rules


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i think this is all pretty reasonable. happy with there being a change to prayers because the existing prayer rules were pretty meh. changes to magic are pretty straightforward, although i wish the power level number was in a more obvious place, since keywords wouldn't be the first place i would check for that

changes to endless spells/evocations are also interesting. gonna need to see this in practice before i can develop an opinion

I don't see anything objectionable. I don't see anything revolutionary, but it seems clean.

The shaman headbutts the air, projecting a wave of green energy that seeks out enemies to nut.

International interpretation of "nut" has been ruined forever and since Chaos Storm everyone takes it the wrong way, thanks PancreasNotWork.

 CMLR wrote:
The shaman headbutts the air, projecting a wave of green energy that seeks out enemies to nut.

International interpretation of "nut" has been ruined forever and since Chaos Storm everyone takes it the wrong way, thanks PancreasNotWork.

Oh, is that why we don't get Ork Madboyz as a bunch of nuttaz?

Magic looks tolerable. Still don't like that casting rolls are a flat 2d6 with no player input.

That said, it's still about a million miles ahead of the festering sewer that is the current 40k psychic "system".

Prayers look a little more interesting now.

I wrote an unboxing and review of the new Darkoath army set, as usual with high resolution sprue images and a rundown of all assembly options (the kits are not as customisable as the Warhammer Community article suggested).

https://taleofpainters.com/2024/04/review-darkoath-army-set/

 stahly wrote:
I wrote an unboxing and review of the new Darkoath army set, as usual with high resolution sprue images and a rundown of all assembly options (the kits are not as customisable as the Warhammer Community article suggested).

https://taleofpainters.com/2024/04/review-darkoath-army-set/

Sigmar Warhammer Community lied

 stahly wrote:
I wrote an unboxing and review of the new Darkoath army set, as usual with high resolution sprue images and a rundown of all assembly options (the kits are not as customisable as the Warhammer Community article suggested).

https://taleofpainters.com/2024/04/review-darkoath-army-set/

''The Darkoath Chieftain is a solid centrepiece model that is a dark mirror image of the Free-guild Cavalier Captain (review here).'' There is no active link to Cavalier Captain's review

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 stahly wrote:
I wrote an unboxing and review of the new Darkoath army set, as usual with high resolution sprue images and a rundown of all assembly options (the kits are not as customisable as the Warhammer Community article suggested).

https://taleofpainters.com/2024/04/review-darkoath-army-set/

''The Darkoath Chieftain is a solid centrepiece model that is a dark mirror image of the Free-guild Cavalier Captain (review here).'' There is no active link to Cavalier Captain's review

On that note, i do appreciate that the tactical rock is optional.

Thank you for your review Stahly. I recognize the fact that the "converters dream" type modular kits from GW are long gone, but it still hurts when miniatures really only have a single or dual assembly option and start to look really samey in units of more than ten.

 Gallahad wrote:
Thank you for your review Stahly. I recognize the fact that the "converters dream" type modular kits from GW are long gone, but it still hurts when miniatures really only have a single or dual assembly option and start to look really samey in units of more than ten.

Exactly. Specially sour when kits are so expensive.