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2012/09/05 03:44:48
Subject: Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Anyone know if the Klaws are two or three bladed?
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2012/09/05 17:09:21
Subject: Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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2012/09/05 19:07:36
Subject: Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Screaming Shining Spear
Central Coast, California USA
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ironicsilence wrote:
+1 it seems like almost every polish bits company makes these....any reason why all polish companies make a bunch of ork heads? Are orks really popular in that market?
I don't think that's it. I think orks are easier to sculpt than human heads in so much as you can skew the facial dimensions or don't have to be as accurate with them as you would a human face. Hence you don't receive the same amount/type of critism when your off with a human face. "That Ork's nose is all wrong" type of thing you just don't see as much. You do, however, get a lot of critism doing just your basic human head even before you put russian caps or pirate hats on them.
Couple that with the fact that Orks are wildly popular in their own right.
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2012/09/05 19:41:38
Subject: Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Fixture of Dakka
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As an ork collector, if I have 120 orks on foot, I would like 120 unique heads if possible. Rank and file and repeats looks 'odd' in an ork army. Which is why people try to swap weapons, change armor and heads as much as possible.
I am working on 36 bikers... Hell yeah I want new heads. I will probably have a unit of 12 with mohawks and a unit of 12 with army helmets and goggles. A few extra dollars can make my ork units very unique and distinct. I suspect that is why so many head kits exist.
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2012/09/06 00:22:18
Subject: Re:Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Some of the heads on GW orks:
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2012/09/06 04:54:10
Subject: Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Any reason Spellcrow doesn't do 10 different heads instead of 5 doubles? I love some of the helmeted ones, but don't want to have to buy two sets just to get 9 regular helmeted troopers.
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2012/09/27 12:41:55
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Lord of the Fleet
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More orc heads
Orks Storm Flying Squadron Heads (ver. 2)
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2012/10/04 15:04:08
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Lord of the Fleet
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And more orc stuff!
Yelling Orc heads
Orc Doctor conversion
Orc Bodies
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2012/10/04 15:45:25
Subject: Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Kroothawk wrote: ironicsilence wrote: +1 it seems like almost every polish bits company makes these....any reason why all polish companies make a bunch of ork heads? Are orks really popular in that market?
I dream of a parallel universe where all Polish miniature companies have a fetish for Elven chicks or catgirls instead like all decent nerds, but oh well Why Nazi Orks? Guess it has to do with the fact that Germans=Nazis is a major topic present in political debate until today, being the major campaign topic by the nationalists in the last two national elections. Polish boardgames also deal with the Poles against Germans theme a lot. I can't imagine why any of that ill feeling came about, historically.... Anyway, as for the actual Orks, despite Kroot's protests to the contrary, it's been an ongoing part of Orks as they were portrayed pretty much from the start by GW: Initially the use of Stahlhelms and German-styled forage caps were mixed in with various ork models, probably more as biker references than anything else. Then it became more common, and more explicit, as the Ork fluff began to build up But before too long, it became an entrenched part of the background (particularly Blood Axes), one that the newer, more "family-friendly" GW has shied away from in more recent years. Do you like the "lightning bolt" "S" logo the Stormboyz have on their belts? Totally nothing like the Sig Rune used ...elsewhere. Right? So basically, putting aside the slight persecution complex that Kroot has about Poles, GW has portyayed Orks as wearing German-styled helmets and using bastardised third reich iconography pretty much as long as 40k has existed.
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2012/10/04 18:27:30
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fluffwise, the "WW2 German Orks" look made _some_ sense for the StormBoyz, as the fluff was that "teenage" orks rebelled against their wild anarchic elders by being highly disciplined, wearing uniforms etc, so the early WW2 German army isn't a terrible match for that look (although equally GW could have instead copied other elite troop looks, e.g. the way many Kommandoes models are clearly based on WW2 British commandoes). For better or worse, the new Stormboyz have abandoned that look.
Re other old-school "WW2 German Ork" models, I'd always thought that was more coincidental: many armies' officers' caps and forage caps look very similar, both in the real and 40K universes, and 'coal scuttle' helmets are a well established part of real-world bikey culture.
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2012/10/06 12:01:18
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Pretty sure I mentioned that as the origins of it all in the RT days, but like it or not it became much more incorporated and commonplace as they moved into the WAAAGH days. As you say, the Kommnadoes are (were) absolutely based on Brit commandoes as well, and I also said they've moved away from it. But it was a big part of the "official" Ork Kultur for quite a few years, and so now small Polish companies making heads that follow that tradition and "look" is no more controversial than them continuing to make "pirate freebooters" heads - which is another well-established Ork "look" from those days that has also been largely abandoned in recent years.
Kroot just gets a bit over-sensitive, because I'm sure there's still a lot of (reasonable, under the circumstances) anti-German feeling in sectors of the Polish culture. I mean, I'm pretty sure Kroot is personally too young to have had anything to do with anything in WW2, but these things take a long time to fade, and diverting further (briefly) into Godwin's law territory, an awful lot of people who had an awful lot to do with an awful lot of bad things pretty much just got given their jobs and fortunes back as soon as Stalin and the Soviets took the top enemy job from old Adolf. That's not going to endear a lot of fast forgiveness. (Though what the Soviets did wasn't very nice either, nor what the Allies did in the end.)
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2012/10/06 13:36:33
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Where do people think Ork stikkbombz originated from?
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2012/10/06 14:15:43
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Lord of the Fleet
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Carnivals where you can get any food on a stick?
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2012/10/06 14:24:53
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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Maybe take this all to Dakka Discussions or the always so lovely Off-Topic instead, just so we can avoid the whole "they are so evil" spiel again.
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2012/10/29 03:39:32
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Lord of the Fleet
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New ork kommando kit
Kit contains 3 Komando Ork Bodies ideal for use with 28mm scale models. Perfect for converting figures for different games. The product is high quality cast resin. Needs to be cleaned and painted.
This set includes special gratis - a knife and a granade.
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2012/10/29 04:29:57
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Nice bodies, but not especially saying "Kommando" to me...
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2012/10/30 13:21:39
Subject: Spellcrow Aug Releases. Tons of orc head bitz
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
somewhere in the northern side of the beachball
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ironicsilence wrote:
+1 it seems like almost every polish bits company makes these....any reason why all polish companies make a bunch of ork heads? Are orks really popular in that market?
I'm not sure how popular orks are but my guess is that they one of the more popular armies.
But I don't think popularity has much to do with ork heads selling. My guesses are:
1. An ork player needs loads of boyz. Pretty much every list has a lot of boyz in them (my trukk spam has 40+ boyz and when I get to 1500points it will have 80+)
2. Many ork players are into modelling (good luck trying to find the non converted models in my collection). Orks are not a rank and file army. Each ork is an individual and together them make mob. A mob isn't consistent like space marine squads.
3. There are 2 things that make a boy model stand out. The pose and the head. The official GW box comes with loads of conversion potential for posing but lacks in head variety. If I'm not wrong the box comes 3 different bare heads rest are bikernazigermanssblitz -helmeted heads which all look fairly similiar.
4. Like others have pointed out orks are easy to make.
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Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in. |
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2012/11/01 15:15:03
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Lord of the Fleet
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Goblin Mechanics and Spawn Assistant have been added
Good for some mek boyz I guess
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2013/02/27 01:10:11
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Waaagh! Warbiker
Australia
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2013/02/27 02:06:42
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Lord of the Fleet
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Mr Gutsy wrote: im also really curious as to why there are half dice cast onto all the sprues... Maybe its some strange casting method?
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2013/02/27 02:23:56
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Dankhold Troggoth
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That's a good question, I can't believe I didn't notice that . Looks like they actually cast some dice as part of the connecting sprue, although what benefit that would give the actual cast, I'm not sure!
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2013/02/27 05:09:43
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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The dice look to be enabling an easier pour of resin into the mold. No idea why they didn't just make an angled channel like other manufacturers.
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2013/02/27 13:16:03
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Couldn't find these on their site. Anybody know what the not plague marines are under?
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2013/02/27 13:23:42
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Lord of the Fleet
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I think they're still a wip
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2013/02/27 21:03:03
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Gonna have to get some of those nurgly bits!
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2013/03/04 16:28:18
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Sci Fi Plague Legion! (Knights and Prince)
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Lord of the Fleet
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2013/03/04 16:34:20
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Sci Fi Plague Legion! (Knights and Prince)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ork desert dog heads! Must have!
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2013/03/04 17:21:42
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Tons of orc head bitz
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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However, if you get the parts of the dice, it would be cool to incorporate into some terrain. Way easier than chopping up real dice.
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2013/03/04 17:24:30
Subject: Re:Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Sci Fi Plague Legion! (Knights and Prince)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Similar to the wargamesbakery dice of destiny base. nkelsch wrote: As an ork collector, if I have 120 orks on foot, I would like 120 unique heads if possible. Rank and file and repeats looks 'odd' in an ork army. Which is why people try to swap weapons, change armor and heads as much as possible. I am working on 36 bikers... Hell yeah I want new heads. I will probably have a unit of 12 with mohawks and a unit of 12 with army helmets and goggles. A few extra dollars can make my ork units very unique and distinct. I suspect that is why so many head kits exist. Couldn't agree more.
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2013/04/16 12:31:57
Subject: Spellcrow sci fi bitz. Sci Fi Plague Legion! (Knights and Prince)
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Hopefully this isn't viewed as necromancy! -
Does anyone know if these will be available to view (& then buy!!) at this year's Salute please?
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Check out my gallery here
Also I've started taking photos to use as reference for weathering which can be found here. Please send me your photos so they can be found all in one place!! |
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