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2012/11/01 23:40:03
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Put the Codexs in order of strongest to weakest from your 6th edition purposes! I have seen it done for 5th, and I'm curious what the landscape is like now that everyone has a good amount of time with 6th and the new Chaos Codex.
Black Templars
Blood Angels
Chaos Daemons
Chaos Space Marines
Dark Angels
Dark Eldar
Eldar
Grey Knights
Imperial Guard
Necrons
Orks
Sisters of Battle
Space Marines
Space Wolves
Tau Empire
Tyranids
(Not my order, just Alphabetical for your Copy-Paste use).
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/11/02 01:08:31
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2012/11/01 23:46:16
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Necrons
Imperial Guard
Grey Knights
Orks
Tau Empire
Space Marines
Black Templars
Dark Eldar
Blood Angels
Eldar
Chaos Space Marines
Tyranids
Chaos Daemons
Sisters of Battle
Dark Angels
Listed by group, so same color are roughly same power level.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/01 23:46:38
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/11/01 23:49:35
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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My list, OP forgot space wolves so I added them, I play sisters mainly and they are a fun army to run. i probably got a few out of place, but generally this is how I see the armies stack up.
Blood Angels
Space Wolves
Imperial Guard
Necrons
Chaos Space Marines
Grey Knights
Space Marines
Sisters of Battle
Chaos Daemons
Orks
Dark Angels
Eldar
Dark Eldar
Tau Empire
Tyranids
Black Templars
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Black Templars 4000 Deathwatch 6000
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2012/11/02 00:07:38
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Necron
Grey Knights
Blood Angels
Imperial Guard
Space Wolves
Orks
Dark Eldar
CSM
SM
Tau
Tyranid
Eldar
Demons
Sisters
Black Templar
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2012/11/02 00:14:04
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Bane Lord Tartar Sauce
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Necrons Imperial Guard Space Wolves Grey Knights Blood Angels Dark Eldar Daemons Chaos Space Marines Space Marines Orks Sisters of Battle Tau Tyranid Dark Angels Eldar Black Templars
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2012/11/02 00:22:35
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Daemons
Imperial Guard
Space Wolves
Grey Knights
Blood Angels
Necrons
Dark Eldar
Chaos Space Marines
Tau
Space Marines
Eldar
Tyranid
Orks
Dark Angels
Sisters of Battle
Black Templars
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2012/11/02 00:32:22
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Focused Fire Warrior
Norwich,UK
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Necrons
Grey knights
Imperial guard
Space wolves
Deamons
Blood angels
Dark eldar
Tyranids
Chaos space marines
Orks
Tau
Eldar
Space marines
Dark angels
Sisters of battle
Black templars
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Tac Ticz, Whatz Dat? |
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2012/11/02 00:35:47
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Beaver Dam, WI
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Imperial Guard
Space Wolves
Necrons
Grey Knights
Blood Angels
Chaos Space Marines
Black Templars
Dark Eldar
Space Marines
Orks
Eldar
Chaos Daemons
Sisters of Battle
Dark Angels
Tau Empire
Tyranids
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/02 00:37:08
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2012/11/02 00:38:26
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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May I ask why DA are bottom 3 in almost every single one?
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6000 points
4000 points
Empire 5500 Points
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2012/11/02 00:42:57
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Beaver Dam, WI
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Hmm 10% overcost on most 30% overcost on bikes. Idiot librarians. As a whole they suck. Deathwing - if separated is a fair to middling army choice but suffers from small numbers and slow. Still 30 termies is pretty impressive.
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2012/11/02 00:46:42
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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TOURNAMENT WINNERS
Necrons
Grey Knights
Imperial Guard
Chaos Daemons
STRONGLY COMPETITIVE
Space Wolves
Orks
Blood Angels
COMPETITIVE
Chaos Space Marines
Dark Angels
Space Marines
Sisters of Battle
Tyranids
Almost might have a chance maybe?
Tau Empire
Black Templars
Dark Eldar
Eldar
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2012/11/02 00:51:39
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Why are people rating SoB so low? I have made SoB my primary 6th Ed army and have been able to win or draw to just about every army. The only armies my SoB really have trouble with are Necron Flying Circus and Daemons. While they may not be top tier, they are FAR from bottom.
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"Elysians: For when you absolutely, positively, must have 100% casualties" |
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2012/11/02 02:33:24
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Bane Lord Tartar Sauce
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Dark Angels offer exactly one thing that you can't get a better version of in another codex: Scoring TH/ SS Terminators. While impressive, I feel that between GK, Codex Marines, and Space Wolves, almost anything you could want from DA can be offered by other codices in a better package. As somebody else said, Deathwing is decent but altogether mediocre.
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2012/11/02 03:46:47
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Salted Diamond wrote:Why are people rating SoB so low? I have made SoB my primary 6th Ed army and have been able to win or draw to just about every army. The only armies my SoB really have trouble with are Necron Flying Circus and Daemons. While they may not be top tier, they are FAR from bottom.
My guess is that they may not know how to rate them, as most people honestly have never played them. I find it surprising that Eldar are being rated so low. I expected Black Templars to be rated pretty low on the board, IDK about dead last though.
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2012/11/02 03:55:46
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Battleship Captain
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DarkCorsair wrote:
TOURNAMENT WINNERS
Necrons
Grey Knights
Imperial Guard
Chaos Daemons
STRONGLY COMPETITIVE
Space Wolves
Orks
Blood Angels
COMPETITIVE
Chaos Space Marines
Dark Angels
Space Marines
Sisters of Battle
Tyranids
Almost might have a chance maybe?
Tau Empire
Black Templars
Dark Eldar
Eldar
This guy gets it.
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2012/11/02 04:01:11
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
Los Angeles
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Necrons
Imperial Guard
Knights/Wolves
Chaos Daemons
Dark Eldar
Blood Angels
Orks
Eldar
Space Marines
Sisters of Battle
Tau
Dark Angels
Tyranids
Black Templars
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Orks
Dark Eldar
Void Dragon Corsairs
WIP Tyrants Legion |
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2012/11/02 04:29:04
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Hmm using the general consensus from the tiers thread I made.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/481945.page
Necrons - Flying Circus
Imperial Guard
Necrons
Space Wolves
Grey Knights
Blood Angels
Chaos Daemons
Orks
Space Marines
Dark Eldar
Chaos Space Marines
Tau
Dark Angels - Death Wing
Tyranids
Sisters of Battle
Eldar
Black Templars
Dark Angels
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2012/11/02 05:55:42
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Douglas Bader
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Tier rankings considering the codex as a whole, not just the dominance of single units (for example, DA are garbage because the book consists of exactly two units: Belial and Deathwing terminators).
Top-tier:
Imperial Guard
Grey Knights
Necrons
Mid-tier:
Blood Angels
Dark Eldar
Orks
Space Marines
Space Wolves
Garbage in need of updating:
Eldar
Tau Empire
GW's shameful errors that need to be removed from the game:
Black Templars
Dark Angels
Sisters of Battle
Tyranids
Haven't seen enough of in 6th to say:
Chaos Daemons
Chaos Space Marines
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2012/11/02 06:01:27
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Peregrine wrote:GW's shameful errors that need to be removed from the game:
lol
You know who you are, GW game designers.
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2012/11/02 06:15:41
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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Zande4 wrote:Hmm using the general consensus from the tiers thread I made.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/481945.page
Necrons - Flying Circus
Imperial Guard
Necrons
Space Wolves
Grey Knights
Blood Angels
Chaos Daemons
Orks
Space Marines
Dark Eldar
Chaos Space Marines
Tau
Dark Angels - Death Wing
Tyranids
Sisters of Battle
Eldar
Black Templars
Dark Angels
Perfect list. The thread can end now, guys.
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2012/11/02 06:33:40
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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I'm going to do two lists here, potential and typical rankings, with potential being "how strong is this at it's strongest" not including allies or Imperial Armour, and typical being what would you expect to see from most players not running netlists/fluffbunnies/beer & pretzels players.
Bold=Highly competitive
Italic=Moderate
Underline=Have issues/very reliant on specific matchups and can win big/lose big.
Potential
Necrons
Grey Knights
Imperial Guard
Space Wolves
Blood Angels
Chaos Daemons
Dark Eldar
Tau Empire
Space Marines
Chaos Space Marines
Tyranids
Dark Angels
Orks
Eldar
Black Templars
Sisters of Battle
Typical:
Necrons
Grey Knights
Space Wolves
Blood Angels
Imperial Guard
Dark Eldar
Space Marines
Chaos Space Marines
Orks
Tyranids
Tau Empire
Dark Angels
Chaos Daemons
Eldar
Black Templars
Sisters of Battle
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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2012/11/02 06:59:06
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bellevue, WA
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You can pry my Sisters from my cold, dead hands!
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2012/11/02 07:12:24
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Salted Diamond wrote:Why are people rating SoB so low? I have made SoB my primary 6th Ed army and have been able to win or draw to just about every army. The only armies my SoB really have trouble with are Necron Flying Circus and Daemons. While they may not be top tier, they are FAR from bottom.
Agreed to the fullest, 6th has helped them out a lot. They are my primary army and so far my only loss in 6th edition was long fang rune priest spam.
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Black Templars 4000 Deathwatch 6000
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2012/11/02 08:34:26
Subject: Re:Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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God Tier:
Necrons
Top Tier:
Space Wolves
Grey Knights
Imperial Guard
Blood Angels
Nothing else really matters. If you're worried about the competitiveness of your army, you won't be picking from any of the other armies, and if you're thinking of playing any of the other armies, you have no reason to worry about tier placement.
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2012/11/02 08:53:35
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Its funny Chaos daemons are ranked hire as they've been running rampant since the WD update. Surprised to see DE rated low they're actually a good army. Venom spam can be quite scary!
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2012/11/02 08:59:15
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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ianj253 wrote:Its funny Chaos daemons are ranked hire as they've been running rampant since the WD update. Surprised to see DE rated low they're actually a good army. Venom spam can be quite scary!
The problem with DE is that they're pretty much a one-trick-pony right now. Yeah, venom spam is scary, but that's all they can really do. Dark Eldar were among the best back in 5th edition when they could crush an army in a huge variety of ways. Now that there's really only one viable playstyle that works for them, they'll work really well against a few poorly prepared armies, but are extremely easily countered otherwise.
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2012/11/02 10:03:15
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I havent played against DE at all nor Eldar enough to rate them, only had two games against 'crons as well, now demons can rank up near the top
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40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
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2012/11/02 10:09:25
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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- OP-as-hell-tier Grey Knights Necrons w/ flyer spam Imperial Guard w/ flyer spam - Top Tier Imperial Guard Necrons - Mid Tier Blood Angels Chaos Daemons Chaos Space Marines Dark Eldar Space Marines Tau DA ORKZ Bottom Tier Black Templars Dark Angels Eldar Tyranids Wait-these-are-still-an-army? Tier Sisters of Battle
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2012/11/02 10:24:05
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
Between Alpha and Omega, and a little to the left
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Sigvatr wrote:- OP-as-hell-tier
Grey Knights
Necrons w/ flyer spam
Imperial Guard w/ flyer spam
- Top Tier
Imperial Guard
Necrons
- Mid Tier
Blood Angels
Chaos Daemons
Chaos Space Marines
Dark Eldar
Space Marines
Tau
Bottom Tier
Black Templars
Dark Angels
Eldar
Tyranids
Wait-these-are-still-an-army? Tier
Sisters of Battle
Orks apparently transcend tiers and have reached a competitive nirvana
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2012/11/02 10:32:06
Subject: Rate Best - Worst Codexs - 6th
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Sigvatr wrote:- OP-as-hell-tier
Grey Knights
Necrons w/ flyer spam
Imperial Guard w/ flyer spam
- Top Tier
Imperial Guard
Necrons
- Mid Tier
Blood Angels
Chaos Daemons
Chaos Space Marines
Dark Eldar
Space Marines
Tau
Bottom Tier
Black Templars
Dark Angels
Eldar
Tyranids
Wait-these-are-still-an-army? Tier
Sisters of Battle
Do you even play grey knights?
They are far from OP in 6th edition now, top tier yes, but not OP
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