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 Crimson wrote:
One question: can Inquisitors finally get an invulnerable save? (Other than 5+ from termie armour.)

Doesn't look like it. Only Malleus can take Termie armor and no one gets anything like a Rosarius or Storm Shield as an option that I can see. There's a Warlord Trait that gives a 6++

 Crimson wrote:
One question: can Inquisitors finally get an invulnerable save? (Other than 5+ from termie armour.)

Not that I can see on a quick search, and only one ordos can take terminator armour.

Amerikon wrote:
The Scouts thing only works before the start of the game and you can only do each ability once.

I'm pretty sure you can't put Marines in an INQ Valkyrie since Allies can't share transports.

Ah didnt see they counted as allies.

 Troike wrote:

Amerikon wrote:
No mention of the ladies other than that the Ordo Hereticus "keeps and eye on them" along with a few other groups.

Huh, that's really odd. I think of all Imperial organisations, the Hereticus should have very little cause to "keep an eye on" the Sisters.

I think the idea is that they're just the internal watchdogs. So while the other Ordos look for external enemies, Hereticus looks for enemies within.

4 Sub Ordos (Chronus, Scriptorum, Machinum, Sicarius)
Fluff on the Philosophies.
Tons of Inquisitor fluff on different famous Inqs\

Take as Primary of a special Ally, in addition to existing allies
Different FOC chart (1 HQ (Req), 1 HQ, 3 Elites)
If primary, Warbands are scoring
BB to BA, DA, GK, IG, Inq, SOB, SM, SW
Desperate to DE
AOC to Eldar, Tau
CtA Ork, Tyranid, Necron, Chaos, Chaos Daemons

Hereticus Warlod Traits
1) Choose to pass/fail morale
2) Roll two and choose for Reserves, OUtflank and Mysterious
3) Orbital Bombardment
4) PE Psyker
5) Adamantium Will
6) No inflitrate within 24 of Warlord

Malleus
1) Choose to pass/fail morale
2) Roll two and choose for Reserves, OUtflank and Mysterious
3) Orbital Bombardment
4) PE Daemon
5) -1 to all daemon invuls within 12"
6) +1 Warp Charge or Adamantium Will

Xenos
1) Choose to pass/fail morale
2) Roll two and choose for Reserves, OUtflank and Mysterious
3) Orbital Bombardment
4) PE vs any Xenos list
5) 6+ Invul, +1 S and Rending on a ranged weapon
6) Hatred


Conversion Beamers
Hellrifle (36, S6 AP3, H1 Rend
Orbital Strike with three different types of bombs ., Can still charge. Lol
S6 AP4, Ord D3, Large
S10 AP1, Heavy 1 Lance, Blast
S6 AP4, Ord 1, Large Blast, PsiShock

Daemonblades
Null rod
Sythian Venom Talon

Special Issue
Brain Mines
Psybolt
Psychotroke
Psyk-out
Psyocculum
Rad Grenades
Servo Skulls
Plasma Syphon


Psychic
Hammerhand
Dark Exc
Sanctuary
Psy Communion
Psy Barrage (S3, AP6, Assault 1, Large Blast, 36", S and AP increase by 1 for each model who knows the model after the first.)

Relics
Liber Heresius (15)
Take a Ld Test at start of friendly turn, bearer and unit gain: Scouts, Split-fire, Counter-attack, fear, Hatred. Scouts is pregame leadership test. Each one only once.
Grimoire of TN (5): If in a challenge with daemon, tehy get -5 WS, Init and Ld
Tome of Vehtric (20): Bearer gains abilities depending on opponent's list. Ex: Against DE, you get night vision. Eldar, split fire. Orks, counter-attack. Necrons, tank hunter. Tau, furious charge. Tyranids, Monster hunter.

Coteaz and Kara Looks the same

Inquisitors look the same as GK inqs.

Henchmen look pretty comparable. They get Power Weapons, not swords for Crusaders and DCA.
They get Priests now in Henchmen squads which work like AS priests (i.e. War Hymns)


Rhinos, Razors, CHimera, Valks, LR, LRC, LRR are all DT

 Troike wrote:

Amerikon wrote:
No mention of the ladies other than that the Ordo Hereticus "keeps and eye on them" along with a few other groups.

Huh, that's really odd. I think of all Imperial organisations, the Hereticus should have very little cause to "keep an eye on" the Sisters.

Remember that the Ecclesiarchy is not immune to having heretics and rabblerousers in their midst. The Sororitas follow the Ecclesiarchy and while they might not necessarily do it blindly, there's always that chance.

I am very intrigued as to what the "Hellrifle" is. It sounds familiar, like Codex: Witchhunters familiar.

So there's not even any mention of them working together anymore, just the Hereticus treating them like any other Imperial organisation. Guess that puts that question to rest, then.

But I still think that having the Hereticus watching the Sisters makes no sense...

 Kanluwen wrote:
I am very intrigued as to what the "Hellrifle" is. It sounds familiar, like Codex: Witchhunters familiar.

Hellrifle (36, S6 AP3, H1 Rend

 pretre wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I am very intrigued as to what the "Hellrifle" is. It sounds familiar, like Codex: Witchhunters familiar.

Hellrifle (36, S6 AP3, H1 Rend

No, I read that. I'm meaning more the background on it.

What is the troop option?

Liber Heresius with Ordo Xenos inquisitor with Rad and Psychotroke in an SOB blob.

Scout forward 6. Go ahead and charge me.

Rules copied from GK and fluff copied from the free Inquisitor rule book and the rpg's.
1/10 laziest effort by gw yet and a waste of money.
For fanatics only

Oh my. im still not sure how scout could possibly work if it must take a LD at the start of a friendly turn.

are Rad grenades only in CC like GK or can it be thrown?

Edit: MK Perfect just wanted to make sure.

Edit:2 BOOOOOO.

 Desubot wrote:
Oh my. im still not sure how scout could possibly work if it must take a LD at the start of a friendly turn.

are Rad grenades only in CC like GK or can it be thrown?

Scout has an exception to make a pre-game LD test to get scout.


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Rad are only in assault.


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SeanDrake wrote:
Rules copied from GK and fluff copied from the free Inquisitor rule book and the rpg's.
1/10 laziest effort by gw yet and a waste of money.
For fanatics only

Or people who want to add inquisitors to their armies.

Is anyone going to tell me what the troop option is? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaseeeeee?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Remember that the Ecclesiarchy is not immune to having heretics and rabblerousers in their midst. The Sororitas follow the Ecclesiarchy and while they might not necessarily do it blindly, there's always that chance.

True, but the Sisters also police the Ecclesiarchy, so they too are specifically on the lookout for that sort of thing. Though I suppose that they may not also be 100% objective, so having the Hereticus watching too makes sense. But the Sisters themselves are a non-risk when it comes to heresy.

It just seems like a really odd change in tone, to me. I mean, the Sisters and Hereticus being buds makes a lot of sense, IMO. Both extremely zealous, both hate heretics, both hunt down Imperial forces who go heretic. They've gone from working closely together (to the point of sharing a codex) to pretty much nothing.


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 pretre wrote:
Liber Heresius with Ordo Xenos inquisitor with Rad and Psychotroke in an SOB blob.

Oh, so we get the special allies rules with them? The Red Hunters thing is valid?

xruslanx wrote:
Is anyone going to tell me what the troop option is? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaseeeeee?

Take as Primary of a special Ally, in addition to existing allies
Different FOC chart (1 HQ (Req), 1 HQ, 3 Elites)
If primary, Warbands are scoring

All in all I'm quite happy with the codex to have a small inquisitorial warband without taking Coteaz. The limit to having 3 warbands (and upto 2 inquisitors) really does keep it to being primary at sub 700 points for me, however it odes give the option to expand a previous ally detachment into becoming the primary one.

Amerikon wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
One question: can Inquisitors finally get an invulnerable save? (Other than 5+ from termie armour.)

Doesn't look like it. Only Malleus can take Termie armor and no one gets anything like a Rosarius or Storm Shield as an option that I can see. There's a Warlord Trait that gives a 6++

For feth's sake, even IG officers get a refractor field, and every bloody priest has rosarius, yet the most powerful agents of the Imperium cannot get either!

 pretre wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Oh my. im still not sure how scout could possibly work if it must take a LD at the start of a friendly turn.

are Rad grenades only in CC like GK or can it be thrown?

Scout has an exception to make a pre-game LD test to get scout.

So, is there a way to make your Inquisitor outflank?

 Desubot wrote:

xruslanx wrote:
Is anyone going to tell me what the troop option is? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaseeeeee?

Take as Primary of a special Ally, in addition to existing allies
Different FOC chart (1 HQ (Req), 1 HQ, 3 Elites)
If primary, Warbands are scoring

Ah so there's no stormtroopers or anything? No actual troop choice?

xruslanx wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

xruslanx wrote:
Is anyone going to tell me what the troop option is? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaseeeeee?

Take as Primary of a special Ally, in addition to existing allies
Different FOC chart (1 HQ (Req), 1 HQ, 3 Elites)
If primary, Warbands are scoring

Ah so there's no stormtroopers or anything? No actual troop choice?

It seems so. you have to make them out of acolytes like the GK book but they score if you take them as a primary whatever that means (im to assume taken as your warlord)

If you use the inquisitorial ally rule to take models from three factions are you required to take 3 HQs?

Or can an Inquisitor be the mandatory HQ from your primary detachment?

 Desubot wrote:

xruslanx wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

xruslanx wrote:
Is anyone going to tell me what the troop option is? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaseeeeee?

Take as Primary of a special Ally, in addition to existing allies
Different FOC chart (1 HQ (Req), 1 HQ, 3 Elites)
If primary, Warbands are scoring

Ah so there's no stormtroopers or anything? No actual troop choice?

It seems so. you have to make them out of acolytes like the GK book but they score if you take them as a primary whatever that means (im to assume taken as your warlord)

I see. Thanks for the answers.

And even though a lot of this seems to be a lot like the Inq section of C:GK being battle brothers will allow some previously unavaliable options.

Chaplain in DCA etc.

So I should buy this because it allows me to put Coteaz as a Battle Brother in my Sisters army?

If that's true... SOLD.

So how about taking:

Primary detatchment: IG with who cares

Allied Inquisition: HQ, Coteaz

Allied GK: HQ, Coteaz

So Karamatzov is just a cut and paste from CH then? Guess there's no reason for me to buy C:I then... If I can field him with my Sisters without "needing" to buy anything else...

Uh, thanks GW?

Valete,

JohnS

 Eldarain wrote:
If you use the inquisitorial ally rule to take models from three factions are you required to take 3 HQs?

Or can an Inquisitor be the mandatory HQ from your primary detachment?

You (currently) have to have a HQ for each detachment. Codex inquisitor allows you to nominate an inquisitor-HQ as your warlord, instead of your main detachment HQ, but doesn't remove requirement of taking a HQ choice.

2x coteaz: He is unique, so only one in an army.

Not really a full Codex. I am disappoint.

xruslanx wrote:
Ah so there's no stormtroopers or anything? No actual troop choice?

I said there weren't going to be any Storm Troopers as "Inquisitorial Storm Troopers" don't exist.