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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Of course, this now has various ROW backers griping over how terrible it is that somebody else in the US is getting their stuff first...

ROW backers just need to learn that when it comes to US based Kickstarters we will always be considered second class citizens. Hell, as an Australian i'm grateful if my package isn't automatically pushed all the way to the end of the very long shipping line.

Just once though i would love to see the RoW backers be the ones who receive their packages a few months in advance, because its annoying to see US backers act all high and mighty in the comments every time its announced that the US orders are shipping early. Especially since we all know that if this shipping situation were reversed the shitstorm would be a couple thousand times worse and the same people calling other backers entitled would be on the front lines most likely demanding their money back.

Mr Gutsy wrote:


Just once though i would love to see the RoW backers be the ones who receive their packages a few months in advance, because its annoying to see US backers act all high and mighty in the comments every time its announced that the US orders are shipping early. Especially since we all know that if this shipping situation were reversed the shitstorm would be a couple thousand times worse and the same people calling other backers entitled would be on the front lines most likely demanding their money back.

Why would it make any sense for that to happen?

I expect people in Europe to get the European based KSes I back first.

You live in a delightful island paradise. I'll trade you Ohio for that 8 days a week if the worst thing I have to deal with is getting toys later than other people.

With the Zombicide we had the distinct displeasure of waiting longer the larger your order was.

Nothing was as much fun as watching the guy who pledged the minimum getting his stuff first, while everyone else who ordered doubles and triples waited months for theirs.

Mr Gutsy wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Of course, this now has various ROW backers griping over how terrible it is that somebody else in the US is getting their stuff first...

ROW backers just need to learn that when it comes to US based Kickstarters we will always be considered second class citizens. Hell, as an Australian i'm grateful if my package isn't automatically pushed all the way to the end of the very long shipping line.

Just once though i would love to see the RoW backers be the ones who receive their packages a few months in advance, because its annoying to see US backers act all high and mighty in the comments every time its announced that the US orders are shipping early. Especially since we all know that if this shipping situation were reversed the shitstorm would be a couple thousand times worse and the same people calling other backers entitled would be on the front lines most likely demanding their money back.

Given that in-country shipping for US-based Kickstarters is faster and easier, with far less headaches, I doubt any company would deviate much from "easiest first". Recall that there is a major push to get product out the door, so revenue can be realized and captured as such. (There are big accounting reasons for CMoN to push inventory out the door before 12/31).

I think that ROW backers of US-based Kickstarters should have learned by now that US backers are fulfilled first, and have that as the default expectation; this shouldn't be a surprise or cause heartache. I don't think it should be a surprise when EU-based Kickstarters fulfill EU backers first, or Oz-based Kickstarters fulfill Oz-based backers first.

IMO, people should be happy that the project is starting fulfillment early, regardless of the reason or order. It means the project is successful, and that can only be a good thing.

 adamsouza wrote:
NIce. I also received my 2 cosplay survivors from that other KS CMON ran.

Really? I didn't know they'd shipped them yet.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
NIce. I also received my 2 cosplay survivors from that other KS CMON ran.

Really? I didn't know they'd shipped them yet.

Trust me, I was kind of confused myself. Not complaining though.

No fluke, I got mine as well.

 cincydooley wrote:

Mr Gutsy wrote:


Just once though i would love to see the RoW backers be the ones who receive their packages a few months in advance,

Why would it make any sense for that to happen?

Theoretically, it could happen because of logistics. Stuff being produced in China could be shipped to a distribution hub for APAC before US orders get loaded onto a container for their slow boat. It wouldn't be months, but it could happen. Of course it won't - since the US container will always go first in order to "even out" the shipping a little - which is just fine. It only gets my goat when we're a complete afterthought, which still happens way too often. (See SoB)

This is probably unimportant and off topic, but I was sorting my Zombicide stuff today, and I noticed the Survivors Set #3 box has a misprint on the side. It looks as though someone forgot to turn off one of the layers from the moustache pack, so all the moustache guys are on the wrong box and overlapping Set #3 survivors. Is everyone's box that way?

Yep its a printing error on box they are all like that

 cincydooley wrote:

Mr Gutsy wrote:


Just once though i would love to see the RoW backers be the ones who receive their packages a few months in advance, because its annoying to see US backers act all high and mighty in the comments every time its announced that the US orders are shipping early. Especially since we all know that if this shipping situation were reversed the shitstorm would be a couple thousand times worse and the same people calling other backers entitled would be on the front lines most likely demanding their money back.

Why would it make any sense for that to happen?

I expect people in Europe to get the European based KSes I back first.

You live in a delightful island paradise. I'll trade you Ohio for that 8 days a week if the worst thing I have to deal with is getting toys later than other people.

Delightful island paradise, with everything that can kill you living on it with you

I will say though that, for any European Kickstarter above a certain size, shipping to America will happen at exactly the same time as Europe. The reason being, they need to launch the product in the US as it is a huge market, and so will already have sorted out distribution there.

I have also not encountered a single project (European or otherwise) that charges more for shipping to the US than a European address, for the same reasons.

Got my Rue Morgue today. I must say the mini quality has improved quite a bit, the detail is amazing for board game pieces!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Of course, this now has various ROW backers griping over how terrible it is that somebody else in the US is getting their stuff first...

Well, if anyone here is from the UK, you might want to follow how the UK-based Mantis KS is fulfilling their pledges. Reaperites who ordered seem to be happy. UK backers received free shipping.

Mantis says their next KS will be cases for Zombicide! Hope they come up with a way so backers know how what foam trays to buy.

Still waiting for my tracking number...

EDIT: Walker's unboxing: http://imgur.com/a/yg1EQ
EDIT: More spoilers: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1283982/rue-morgue-spolier/page/1

Got my box today, too busy to open it yet.

 Alex C wrote:
Got my Rue Morgue today. I must say the mini quality has improved quite a bit, the detail is amazing for board game pieces!

Yep, totally agree, the figures are the best sculpts yet.

Got my two boxes. Opened up mine and love it. Already sold the other one because people be crazy

Got mine 2 days ago and played my first Season 3 game last night.

As other have said, the minis are great, but we also found the deck to be much different than previous seasons, as it is entirely weapons and weapon related items. There also seem to be a lot more automatic weapons in this season, and many seem to be more powerful than last seasons (ex: new dual-wieldable SMGs roll 5 dice each needing 5+, rather than 3 dice)

I didn't back this because I heard that season 2 was not as good as season 1, and I'd rather have the best game than the latest with tons of bonus minis. So how is it!

As I see it, Season 2 was rebalanced to be a "harder" version of Season 1, while retaining the core Season 1 gameplay design and elements. I didn't particularly enjoy jumping into Season 2.

Season 3 is a fresh start with new concepts of competitive gameplay. Hopefully, it's friendly to start.

Season 2 had awesome survivors and new zombie types.

I have to admit though, we seldom use the mall or prison tiles.

 adamsouza wrote:
Season 2 had awesome survivors and new zombie types.

I agree with this. Prison Outbreak missions are "meh". However, I like the Mall tiles and TCM scenarios, and usually use the TCM combo scenarios.

Have only played the first tutorial for Rue Morgue, but enjoyed it. Looked through the equipment deck. It's easier to get Molotovs (which you'll need for the new A-Bomb abomination), but the deck has five Skinner "Argghs" which is more than the Season 1 deck, which only had three "Argghs" The search specialists will need to be careful ...

There are no cars though, so one will need S1 or S2 for both the rules and the counters.

Experienced players should reread the Skills section of Rue Morgue, as some skills have changed slightly and the S3 rulebook says the revisions take precedence over previous rulebooks.

I didn't care much for Prison Outbreak. The first Zombicide survivors were iconic, and depicted people from all walks of life: A cop and a thug, a waitress and a white collar guy, a trendy pop culture chick and a crazy homeless man. Prison Outbreak seemed uninspired by contrast. Joshua, Kim and Watts are just generic civilians. Shannon and Belle are kind of the same short shots wearing, scary haircut -- urban warriors. Gridlock is the only one who seems to have a bit of character, but he's not enough to carry it on his own. I also found the berserker zombies quite boring. The sheer number of Zombies in most games is enough to make sure that your survivors are perpetually in melee, so these guys didn't really change anything. I thought Toxic City Mall was much better. Toxic zombies are a lot more scary, and the characters were a bit more varied.

I always find that we are more dependant on ranged weaponry than melee, Generally finding PO games harder than TCM. But maybe thats because we are all terrified of the Toxic zombies getting close.

We have also stopped playing with Zombie Dogs. They are just stupid. But kind of balance out when using your own Dog Companions.

We tend to play with the original tiles, but all zombie types in the deck.

It gets interesting when you have to shoot some, melee others, and watch out for those damned dogs in between.

I find the Dog Companions to be a huge buff to the players, mostly for the extra dice in melee and the extra search action.

We've only played a couple of Season 2 scenarios, but we do like Season 2. The added variety with the Survivors is quite a lot of fun, and the additional Zombie types (especially the Toxic ones) mix things up quite a bit. The group loves the dog companions. Those were a bit hit.

My only complaint is that with each new expansion there are less and less non-weapon cards, making scenarios involving non-weapon cards harder or you have to leave out a large portion of the weapons to make things more balanced, defeating the purpose of having all those extra equipment cards. I think that Zombicide needs a bunch of non-weapon equipment cards (be they tools, food, supplies, medical stuff, etc.), and a system that makes these things integral to the game (especially for campaign play). The game would elevate itself if it did that.

 adamsouza wrote:
We tend to play with the original tiles, but all zombie types in the deck.

It gets interesting when you have to shoot some, melee others, and watch out for those damned dogs in between.

I find the Dog Companions to be a huge buff to the players, mostly for the extra dice in melee and the extra search action.

We do the same thing. The different Zombie types keeps things interesting and means that you need to balance between shooters and hand-to-hand combat types. I really like the Zombie Dogs, the concept is "meh," but the speed makes them super dangerous and fun to deal with.

My fiancée got me Season 2 for Christmas, and yesterday Iocal store was having a 20% off board games post Christmas sale so I grabbed Toxic City Mall. Played mission 1 from Season 2 with my nephew and had an absolute blast.

Do many people paint their sets? I've been considering it. The zombies look like they will paint up quickly with washes and some GW technical paints.

They look great painted.

I mostly concentrated on the survivors. It makes them stand out more on the board.

I just had a browse through this thread and some of the painted stuff looks fantastic. The different coloured plastic makes it hard to see much of the detail, but it's good to know it's there.

I'm a bit bummed that I missed out on the kickstarters, some of the exclusive survivors are fantastic. But there's plenty in just the base games anyway, and I'm sure I can get a few on ebay. Also I really don't want to turn into a completionist with this. I don't have the money for that