Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Well...


I would sell my soul for a few of those Directorate gunships.

What I love is the dynamics - the walkers are not just big standing there like they came off the assembly line- they've got a twist to the arms and body that suggests motion and action! They look fantastic

 Mattlov wrote:
I just had a Battletech-gasm at those walker minis.

This LOOKS great, but I have a stompy robot combined arms game. This will have to be utterly fantastic for me to do anything other than pick up a couple minis.

Just out of curiosity, which stompy robot combined arms game do you prefer? I know you mentioned Battletech, but when I've ever looked into it the vehicles and power armored infantry seemed to be more of a hindrance to a force and only taken if you really wanted a thematic force.

That said, Planetfall seems to be the game for me but I'm likely not going to be using the leviathans in my army... Unless the Relthozan one really speaks to me I will stick with the smaller vehicles backed up by a heavy walker or two.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Overread wrote:
What I love is the dynamics - the walkers are not just big standing there like they came off the assembly line- they've got a twist to the arms and body that suggests motion and action! They look fantastic

In their Facebook comments, Spartan has said they used ball and socket joints where possible to allow for the dynamism.

Is this 15mm or 10mm? Can't remember. I've been glancing at DZC lately with the plastic starters about to come out but this is more open field warfare which I prefer.

I'll grab some to paint as I always do with Spartan Games. Not sure I'll play it as much as DZC scratches my itch more, and imagine Planetfall resolves around the usual Spartan Mechanics. The force composition looks fun, so I hope it's not too gimmicky. Especially looking forward to the Alliance and League minor factions.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Is this 15mm or 10mm? Can't remember. I've been glancing at DZC lately with the plastic starters about to come out but this is more open field warfare which I prefer.

It's 10mm. It looks like the 15mm version they were talking about was scrapped.

There should be some rules on how to incorporate the standard FSA space game with Planetfall, and there may be a 28mm skirmish game coming sometime in the future, but I really don't think it's anything to hold your breath over. It's likely a long way away.

Yeah, don't reallly care about a 28mm skirmish game

Awesome that it's 10mm. I think I'll hold off an see how this shapes up before diving into DZC.

I'll grab some to paint as I always do with Spartan Games. Not sure I'll play it as much as DZC scratches my itch more, and imagine Planetfall resolves around the usual Spartan Mechanics. The force composition looks fun, so I hope it's not too gimmicky. Especially looking forward to the Alliance and League minor factions.

This is where I sit currently. I love the tactical nature of DZC as well as the hard sci-fi elements that it incorporates. The models for PF look cool, but the open warfare and oversized mecha feels a little unrealistic for my taste. I have 40k for science fantasy.

Still. I will reserve final judgement until I see a demo of it.

DZC is the same type of (semi-)hard sci-fi.

DZC also has walkers (which would probably not exist in hard sci-fi), the titans are flying and the rebels are partly mad max lookalikes.

In regard to game system i will have to see which i like more (or less). The DZC fuleset was enough for me to not start playing it (but i will probably get some of the rebel models).

I don't know yet in which category Planetfall will... well... fall.

Mmmm... Could this be a faction starter?

iirc, each Helix (i.e. force group on the org chart) will have its own boxed release. This is probably a Terran Helix, though we don't know which specific one yet. And assuming that this is an Helix, the building will be included as well.

Dumb question and I think I know the answer but are these are going to be supplied unpainted?

 primalexile wrote:
Dumb question and I think I know the answer but are these are going to be supplied unpainted?

Yes.

Well, I'm 99.9% sure, seeing as how everything Spartan has ever made has some unpainted and unassembled.

Eumerin wrote:
iirc, each Helix (i.e. force group on the org chart) will have its own boxed release. This is probably a Terran Helix, though we don't know which specific one yet. And assuming that this is an Helix, the building will be included as well.

This is more than a single helix.

For comparison purposes, the Dindrenzi Core Helix mockup box visible in the Claymore photos (which is probably a good starting point for force building) shows eight infantry bases, four small vehicles (I'm guessing APCs), three medium vehicles, one large vehicle, and what appear to be two drop pods.

I think they may have mentioned in the last Facebook post with these models and terrain that the terrain comes pre-painted. That would be the only part and I'm not going to hold them to it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I agree that this is not a single helix. There are two heavy tanks shown along with the leviathan and command vehicle.

It was stated in the Claymore information that the Leviathans and Heavy tanks are in opposing helix's, so while you may get two heavy tanks in a single helix it won't come with the leviathan or all of the other stuff.

roadkizzle wrote:
I think they may have mentioned in the last Facebook post with these models and terrain that the terrain comes pre-painted. That would be the only part and I'm not going to hold them to it.

Correct. Here's the quote from the Facebook post -

The terrain comes pre-painted, so can go straight to the gaming table and our boxed sets include the terrain.

I don't want to play the dirty Terrans, but all those models look so cool. I hope they show more Directorate stuff, before I get swayed to the Terrans.

Man, the more I see of that Dindrenzi walker, the more I love it. And the best part is it sounds like they play a lot like Epic 40k space marines (lightning strikes using a lot of orbital assets and precision firepower to take the enemy apart faster than they can react). So that should be right up my alley. But I can't say no to any hovertanks, so it was something of a foregone conclusion.

I can't wait to see more teasers, their work on Planetfall is simply amazing so far. A very nice rendering of each faction that still makes calls to their fleet aesthetics without just being straight-up copies.

Geez. Every time I see stuff for this game it blows my mind.

Do we know how well it plays alongside Firestorm Armada in a campaign sense? Because that would be a huge selling point for me.

 -Loki- wrote:
Geez. Every time I see stuff for this game it blows my mind.

Do we know how well it plays alongside Firestorm Armada in a campaign sense? Because that would be a huge selling point for me.

i second that, i've found myself thinking about campaigning ever since this thread first cropped up

At their event at Claymore the Planetfall and Armada games were linked. If I understand correctly a victory in armada meant that their ground forces would receive additional reinforcements. I feel like the linking of the two games is very important to Spartan Games. I have not been this excited about a game in a long time.

How big are those walker robots?

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
How big are those walker robots?

Bases are 100mm x 100mm, so they're probably 5-6 inches tall

In the Facebook posts Spartan stated that the Terran one is 120mm tall and the Dindrenzi one is 130mm tall.

That picture of the Army box has me sold. I have been seeing the posts from spartan on my FB page and my interest has been building. Also loving the inclusion of some terrain pieces. The Space stations in FA have always been a good addition and make for a quick game set up so its good to see them carry this on.

Like other people on this thread, I don’t normally go in for pre-ordering (Board or Computer games) and I am burnt out on kickstarter after feeling utterly let down by myth (Got a refund), that being said I will definitely be pre-ordering enough to get playing a game with my boys and link this together with our FA forces. If campaign rules are not out at the start i can always do some in house rules that link together the offence and defence advantage from a planetary invasion force.

I have the Valhalla box and I feel it would be a smart move by Spartan to have the Terran and Dindrenzi forces as the starter armies in a Planetfall box to link this together quickly in terms of a campaign setting.

Looking forward to this developing over the coming months.

Mooks wrote:
I have the Valhalla box and I feel it would be a smart move by Spartan to have the Terran and Dindrenzi forces as the starter armies in a Planetfall box to link this together quickly in terms of a campaign setting.

The following is from the guy who's posting the Planetfall pics on the Spartan Games Facebook page (emphasis added by me).

Images of the Directorate coming very soon. They feature as a core nation in the first of our Two Player boxed sets.

roadkizzle wrote:

 Mattlov wrote:
I just had a Battletech-gasm at those walker minis.

This LOOKS great, but I have a stompy robot combined arms game. This will have to be utterly fantastic for me to do anything other than pick up a couple minis.

Just out of curiosity, which stompy robot combined arms game do you prefer? I know you mentioned Battletech, but when I've ever looked into it the vehicles and power armored infantry seemed to be more of a hindrance to a force and only taken if you really wanted a thematic force.

That said, Planetfall seems to be the game for me but I'm likely not going to be using the leviathans in my army... Unless the Relthozan one really speaks to me I will stick with the smaller vehicles backed up by a heavy walker or two.

I have been a Battletech Demo Agent for about 18 years, so yeah, that's my game. Combined arms in Battletech only gets clunky because infantry operates on a completely different set of rules. Overly complicated ones if you ask me, but it was a balancing issue. 'Mechs and vehicles use a majority of the same rules, with just a few differences. 'Mechs and vehicle games are easy and smooth.

I love the Battletech world, and the mechs. I've read a handful of the books. But I've never enjoyed a game of it. I've always felt that mech games represent a few mechs in basically arena/very small scale combat, but they have always felt much more based around target priority and in Battletech weapon controlling with the heat mechanics.

I prefer my games with actual squad actions and a bit more strategy with a little less of the nitty and gritty. I think I may prefer some more of the very simplified Battletech rules, but then I'd prefer something where I could easily control four or more lances of mechs or two or three with a number of supporting tank/infantry formations.

I see Planetfall as more of large scale war scenarios with some heavy backup in the Leviathans or heavy tanks rather than a mech game with some supporting tanks and infantry backup.

Eumerin wrote:

Mooks wrote:
I have the Valhalla box and I feel it would be a smart move by Spartan to have the Terran and Dindrenzi forces as the starter armies in a Planetfall box to link this together quickly in terms of a campaign setting.

The following is from the guy who's posting the Planetfall pics on the Spartan Games Facebook page (emphasis added by me).

Images of the Directorate coming very soon. They feature as a core nation in the first of our Two Player boxed sets.

Thanks Eumerin, I had missed that bit. Still interested but my initial purchase might be different now. All depends on these other box sets and which armies they are. Could be like the Mercs box sets that were kickstarted. I may buy the book and two armies in separate army boxes.

Looking forward to new news rolling out as we get closer. loving the build up of the release.

I honestly just want to see more of the Aquan Prime right now.

Anyone got a release date for this yet?