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 ImAGeek wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
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Those Scyllax are really cool, possibly Dark Mech?

I know it's not much to go on, but 'Guardian-Automata' doesn't sound very Dark Mech.

True, although Scyllax kinda does. It was the mechadendrites everywhere and the Ancient Greek monster name that was making me lean to DM, but then normal Ad Mech is pretty damn creepy too (and has names based on things like the Greek god of death).


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 whitetornado wrote:
The image for the reprint of the Vraks campaign was left out.



In the image it simply shows the book title as "The Seige of Vraks" and shows artwork from the third volume. I guess all the volumes been combined. Thick book.

Some of the rules will be combined and streamlined though, so it won't be quite as thick as the 3 previous books put together.
Also, misspelling "siege" in such a prominent location...? Oh dear. :/

That Iron Warrior is so pretty~

Is the Scyllax 'Guardian-Automata' in any of the existing books? As a Ad-mech man I want some by default but, what are they?

They're also selling Horus Heresy era pins. Oh my days.

There isn't one f those models I don't love will definitely pick up one of each eventually.

Did Polux fight on Terra?

More things to tempt me! About time the quad mortar rapier made an appearance. Those servo skull nasties look pretty nice too.

Holy gak, almost everything this thread discussed in the last few pages was released in one update

I really like the look of the new stormhammer compared with the previous ones once the side sponsons are added. I was firmly in the "meh..." camp and didn't see the fuss either way previously but with that view I'm stepping over the line to the "good job, FW!" side.



The fat men in scuba "I'm totally not inspired by bioshock" ogryn are another story though.

Ogryn in steampunk space suits, what's not to like?

Really liking those Scyllax!
Less convinced on the Ogres, their weapons look pretty cool but the big backpacks dont do it for me, neither does the un-helmeted one.

That tank is....too over the top. It has much to much going on.

I hope there an alternate helmeted option for that middle ogryn, or you can model it with the visor down - bit derpy for my liking

The backpacks are the life support system, pretty much the same as found on the regular Solar Auxilia, just a wee bit bigger so they can keep a genetically modified monster alive in space.


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 Nicky J wrote:
I hope there an alternate helmeted option for that middle ogryn, or you can model it with the visor down - bit derpy for my liking

Chances are this will be the case, as all previous sets of Solar Auxilia come with the option for leaders and vox operators to have opened and closed helmets.

Oh i wish i hadnt just bought an extra 2000pts of death guard. Or that solar auxlia army would be reality.

 BrookM wrote:
Ogryn in steampunk space suits, what's not to like?

Steampunk. It's just not my thing outside of maybe fantasy dwarves if done well. YMMV.

 Koppo wrote:
Is the Scyllax 'Guardian-Automata' in any of the existing books? As a Ad-mech man I want some by default but, what are they?

They're not, no. I'm assuming they'll be in Tempest.

That Alpha Legionnaire is an absolute abomination, and not in the good way. At least he's an event exclusive. What is that supposed to be? It looks like the sculptor forgot to finish the face, so they stuck a bit of white tack on it and hastily sculpted a rough approximation of a face. Or Mr Bean was involved.

 warboss wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Ogryn in steampunk space suits, what's not to like?

Steampunk. It's just not my thing outside of maybe fantasy dwarves if done well. YMMV.

The SA are more Dieselpunk/retro-futurist really.

Haighus wrote:
Also, misspelling "siege" in such a prominent location...? Oh dear. :/

I apologize. I got distracted trying to get the image in there. I've corrected it so that i won't offend further.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
That Alpha Legionnaire is an absolute abomination, and not in the good way. At least he's an event exclusive. What is that supposed to be? It looks like the sculptor forgot to finish the face, so they stuck a bit of white tack on it and hastily sculpted a rough approximation of a face. Or Mr Bean was involved.

It's not specifically an AL. The concept art he's based off is a Sons of Horus marine, I posted it a couple of pages back. I think he's just a space marine in general but they painted him as AL. Not that that changes any of your criticism haha, which I do mostly agree with, although he has grown on me.

The chest design appears to be lots of snakes and a skull, so I don't think it's a generic design. It's a pity, really, since the rest of the miniature is pretty good. At least heads are the easiest part to replace.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
The chest design appears to be lots of snakes and a skull, so I don't think it's a generic design. It's a pity, really, since the rest of the miniature is pretty good. At least heads are the easiest part to replace.

Well the snakes/skull were on the original concept art, which was a Soms of Horus marine. And they obviously thought it was generic enough to not paint it as a sons of Horus. Snakes and Skulls aren't really tied to any legion. Snakes kind of SoH (the serpent eye etc).

The Skrillex automata thingies are interesting, the Ogryn are nice. The quad-Multilaser is great!

The full Stormhammer reveal is nice - I like it.

I would have loved it and bought it if the turret had the classic two battle-cannons on it too!

(OK, I still might get one!)

 Alpharius wrote:
The full Stormhammer reveal is nice - I like it.

I would have loved it and bought it if the turret had the classic two battle-cannons on it too!

(OK, I still might get one!)

Agreed.

Ok, it's not a Skullhammer in quite the way it might have been, but it's still a nice tank.

Could maybe use a few more guns.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
The chest design appears to be lots of snakes and a skull, so I don't think it's a generic design. It's a pity, really, since the rest of the miniature is pretty good. At least heads are the easiest part to replace.

Well the snakes/skull were on the original concept art, which was a Soms of Horus marine. And they obviously thought it was generic enough to not paint it as a sons of Horus. Snakes and Skulls aren't really tied to any legion. Snakes kind of SoH (the serpent eye etc).

I've never seen any snake iconography relating to the Sons of Horus, only wolves. Their "Eye of Horus" having a slit pupil doesn't mean it's a snake eye, and even if it did, the Alpha Legion are still far more serpent themed than any other, having actual hydras all over everything.

Not sure if the background's changed, but the Eye of Horus used to be associated with the Serpent Lodge of Davin (old Adeptus Titanicus). Horus himself had serpent imagery associated with him, on the Eternity Gate (though that was obviously post-Heresy).

I'm any case, I agree with Frozen Ocean. I don't think the Lion-masked model is supposed to be associated with any particularly Legion. It's a nice generic one. There's an older Blanche sketch of a generic Legionary from Visions of Heresy that resembles it a lot, and the Sons of Horus sketch looks based on that.

Lovely models, lovely previews.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
The chest design appears to be lots of snakes and a skull, so I don't think it's a generic design. It's a pity, really, since the rest of the miniature is pretty good. At least heads are the easiest part to replace.

Well the snakes/skull were on the original concept art, which was a Soms of Horus marine. And they obviously thought it was generic enough to not paint it as a sons of Horus. Snakes and Skulls aren't really tied to any legion. Snakes kind of SoH (the serpent eye etc).

I've never seen any snake iconography relating to the Sons of Horus, only wolves. Their "Eye of Horus" having a slit pupil doesn't mean it's a snake eye, and even if it did, the Alpha Legion are still far more serpent themed than any other, having actual hydras all over everything.

Page 83 of HH Book I shows a SoH symbol in combination with snakes ... so it is not that far fetched

No, the Sons Of Horus use the Eye Of Horus, which is a real thing..



No connection with serpents or similar, that's very much AL territory.


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 Fireball wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
The chest design appears to be lots of snakes and a skull, so I don't think it's a generic design. It's a pity, really, since the rest of the miniature is pretty good. At least heads are the easiest part to replace.

Well the snakes/skull were on the original concept art, which was a Soms of Horus marine. And they obviously thought it was generic enough to not paint it as a sons of Horus. Snakes and Skulls aren't really tied to any legion. Snakes kind of SoH (the serpent eye etc).

I've never seen any snake iconography relating to the Sons of Horus, only wolves. Their "Eye of Horus" having a slit pupil doesn't mean it's a snake eye, and even if it did, the Alpha Legion are still far more serpent themed than any other, having actual hydras all over everything.

Page 83 of HH Book I shows a SoH symbol in combination with snakes ... so it is not that far fetched

I think the whole connection with serpents is more to do with a metaphor for traitorous behaviour, it isn't really part of Legion iconography.

The Sons of Horus eye is the symbol of the Serpent Lodge on Davin.




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The Eye is the symbol of the Serpent Lodge on Davin. This is the original concept art for the model, a Sons of Horus marine from the art of the Istvaan trilogy book that came with the LE Extermination:

Still has the snakes. And as said, the SoH page in the HH books has the serpents with the eye.

There's a difference between snakes and hydras. If it was hydras, sure, it would be AL. But I think it's just a generic marine that they painted as an AL (probably admittedly because of the snakes).

I just think it's fairly natural to assume that a Marine bearing snake iconography is an Alpha Legionnaire, based on the Alpha Legion's prominent featuring of snakes and snake themes rather than an obscure reference to a loose connection that another Legion has to snakes (the name of a place where their Primarch went once). Horus wore an eye symbol before going to the Lodge, if The Triumph at Ullanor artwork is accurate.

Why would a Son of Horus bear Serpent Lodge iconography, anyway?

 Apologist wrote:

I'm any case, I agree with Frozen Ocean

You're confusing me with someone else!

 Apologist wrote:
the Lion-masked model

That's supposed to be a lion? Wow. I don't know if that makes it better or worse.