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2015/02/06 06:13:29
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
TiamatRoar wrote: Wonder how many fluff stories there'll be of the harlequins fighting other factions. So far most of the arts and model set ups depict them fighting slaaneshi daemons (which, fluff-wise, really is probably one of their major enemies. I'm just interested in seeing what specific reasons will be for battles with other factions)
There is no more fluff... Just random explanations to sell models to ally into other armies.
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2015/02/06 06:32:35
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
TiamatRoar wrote: Wonder how many fluff stories there'll be of the harlequins fighting other factions. So far most of the arts and model set ups depict them fighting slaaneshi daemons (which, fluff-wise, really is probably one of their major enemies. I'm just interested in seeing what specific reasons will be for battles with other factions)
The Masque of Vyle novella went up for pre-order last week.
Novella Description:
Even amongst the eldar, the Harlequins are a capricious, mysterious breed. When a troupe of these deadly warrior-performers discovers a dead Craftworld festering in the webway, they are determined to find the one responsible and exact punishment. Using the ancient craft of their Shadowseer, the trail of destruction leads the troupe to the Sable Marches, a fringe realm of the dark eldar. With several possible suspects of this heinous crime, the Harlequins decide to draw out the guilty one by staging the Masque of Vyle for the archons, a performance that will expose the truth and lead, fatally, to the perpetrator.
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2015/02/06 06:39:25
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
TiamatRoar wrote: Wonder how many fluff stories there'll be of the harlequins fighting other factions. So far most of the arts and model set ups depict them fighting slaaneshi daemons (which, fluff-wise, really is probably one of their major enemies. I'm just interested in seeing what specific reasons will be for battles with other factions)
The Masque of Vyle novella went up for pre-order last week.
Novella Description:
Even amongst the eldar, the Harlequins are a capricious, mysterious breed. When a troupe of these deadly warrior-performers discovers a dead Craftworld festering in the webway, they are determined to find the one responsible and exact punishment. Using the ancient craft of their Shadowseer, the trail of destruction leads the troupe to the Sable Marches, a fringe realm of the dark eldar. With several possible suspects of this heinous crime, the Harlequins decide to draw out the guilty one by staging the Masque of Vyle for the archons, a performance that will expose the truth and lead, fatally, to the perpetrator.
d/l'd and read it last week Tasty wee read. Touches on the background of the eldar fall and how the harlis cam to be. Worth a read and Motley is back in it too
I don't think Lelith would crap herself if the Emperor himself appeared.
Emperor would pop her with the merest thought.
Doesn't mean she'd crap herself though, in fairness.
I don't get the impression that the DE are scared of the Harlequins. They probably respect them, as much as the DE respect anyone, and they're all Eldar at the end of the day - DE and Craftworld Eldar get along reasonably well still, because they're the same species.
Harlequins are some the galaxies greatest fighters. i think the DE respect the Harlequins based on their combat power and the fact that the DE love watching the Harlequins kill. The DE are always looking for new thrills as they feed off the death of others and the Harlequins give them something both very different and exciting to watch.
Chaps, I respectfully request that the fluff speculation be kept to a minimum, while I'm not personally too hyped for this release, I'm sure there are a lot of people eagerly awaiting news of the next releases, and every time the thread gets bumped because of something slightly off topic there will be disappointed people, and one of them may get cross and start shouting!
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Dark Eldar are scared of Harlequins, or at least an Angry Harlequin. In Path of the Archon Motely mostly meets with powerful Archons who are adept or to arrogant to admit it, but when Motely get's angry with a simple Kabalite Guard due to the ransacking of Wraith Guard the Guard fears for his life. I mean, Dark Eldar fear Slaanesh more then anything, and seeing it right in front of you in the eyes of a Slight Harlequin currently sitting on your stomach is enough to make anyone wince.
2015/02/06 15:37:10
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
Azreal13 wrote: Chaps, I respectfully request that the fluff speculation be kept to a minimum, while I'm not personally too hyped for this release, I'm sure there are a lot of people eagerly awaiting news of the next releases, and every time the thread gets bumped because of something slightly off topic there will be disappointed people, and one of them may get cross and start shouting!
So we should stop discussing the thing that's coming out for fear of not discussing the thing that's coming out in the right way?
http://spikeybitsblog.com/ has the WD review up which has the Skyweaver stuff in plus a few painting articles. Also the following weeks "masque" link. Nothing that's not known but nice to see it out there.
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2015/02/06 16:15:22
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
Azreal13 wrote: Chaps, I respectfully request that the fluff speculation be kept to a minimum, while I'm not personally too hyped for this release, I'm sure there are a lot of people eagerly awaiting news of the next releases, and every time the thread gets bumped because of something slightly off topic there will be disappointed people, and one of them may get cross and start shouting!
So we should stop discussing the thing that's coming out for fear of not discussing the thing that's coming out in the right way?
Sure thing chief. We'll get right on that.
I'm just not sure that whether or not Lileth would soil herself if she met the Emperor is exactly what people would necessarily expect when opening this thread.
Call me controversial!
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The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Azreal13 wrote: Chaps, I respectfully request that the fluff speculation be kept to a minimum, while I'm not personally too hyped for this release, I'm sure there are a lot of people eagerly awaiting news of the next releases, and every time the thread gets bumped because of something slightly off topic there will be disappointed people, and one of them may get cross and start shouting!
So we should stop discussing the thing that's coming out for fear of not discussing the thing that's coming out in the right way?
Sure thing chief. We'll get right on that.
I'm just not sure that whether or not Lileth would soil herself if she met the Emperor is exactly what people would necessarily expect when opening this thread.
Call me controversial!
As a Xeno's Inquisitor I am most interested in the biological fear response in the enemies of Mankind should they face the holy Emperor.
Azreal13 wrote: Chaps, I respectfully request that the fluff speculation be kept to a minimum, while I'm not personally too hyped for this release, I'm sure there are a lot of people eagerly awaiting news of the next releases, and every time the thread gets bumped because of something slightly off topic there will be disappointed people, and one of them may get cross and start shouting!
So we should stop discussing the thing that's coming out for fear of not discussing the thing that's coming out in the right way?
Sure thing chief. We'll get right on that.
I'm just not sure that whether or not Lileth would soil herself if she met the Emperor is exactly what people would necessarily expect when opening this thread.
Call me controversial!
As a Xeno's Inquisitor I am most interested in the biological fear response in the enemies of Mankind should they face the holy Emperor.
Well facing the emperor right now would probably not be too scary as he is a rotting corpse sitting on a golden toilet... but back before he let Horus beat the snot out of him... I think all would be frightened.
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2015/02/06 17:43:06
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
Interesting bit about the Skyweaver Jetbike, which is a piece of wargear (as noted in the previously leaked scans of the Skyweaver data sheet). It says "a model riding a Skyweaver Jetbike has a 4+ armor save..." etc. SO... it sounds like "models" other than Skyweavers may be able to ride a Skyweaver.
Grand Harlequins and Death Jesters on Skyweavers anyone?
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2015/02/06 17:53:15
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
Asmodas wrote: Interesting bit about the Skyweaver Jetbike, which is a piece of wargear (as noted in the previously leaked scans of the Skyweaver data sheet). It says "a model riding a Skyweaver Jetbike has a 4+ armor save..." etc. SO... it sounds like "models" other than Skyweavers may be able to ride a Skyweaver.
Grand Harlequins and Death Jesters on Skyweavers anyone?
It's certainly possible, since that's the wording used by Windrider Jetbikes (which can be taken by other Eldar units), but not necessarily indicative, since that's also the same wording used by Reaver Jetbikes (which can be taken by no one else). Furthermore, the lack of any kind of additional Wound for the driver makes it seem unlikely to me that we'll see this on any characters.
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2015/02/06 18:32:19
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
Does that say, unit composition 2, options may include 4 additional?
100 points... so expensive!
Also -- it does sound like another model may ride a Skyweaver. "A model riding a Skyweaver jetbike has a 4+ Armor Save and a shuriken cannon. Their unit type also changes to Eldar Jetbike."
Very cool that the rules are in WD. So here's a question for you -- if you get all the rules for all the units in White Dwarf, and then a Codex is published that contains those same rules (plus some fluff and photography at the beginning), would you buy the Codex? For me -- it would be a qualified yes -- yes on armies that I'm interested in.
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2015/02/06 18:45:55
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
Talys wrote: Also -- it does sound like another model may ride a Skyweaver. "A model riding a Skyweaver jetbike has a 4+ Armor Save and a shuriken cannon. Their unit type also changes to Eldar Jetbike."
Again, just as a reminder, the Reaver Jetbikes are also worded that way, and any Dark Eldar player knows how many of their HQ options got the opportunity to ride one (hint: it's zero).
With 48-96 pages I prefer the book which will hopefully have new fluff in it. In addition to that: Warlord traits, tactical objectives, relics and artwork... well I already decided in favour of a book as I have skipped purchasing those WDs anyway.
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2015/02/06 18:47:36
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
As has been mentioned previously (and as GW have done previously) the WD rules will give you enough to run the unit as an allied force, but things like wargear and warlord traits tend to get "overlooked" and require the book to run as a standalone force.
That was very much the case with the IK for instance.
With that in mind, would you really pay some £25-30 for a book where you already own the meat of the rules, can obtain the balance of them via leaks and where much of the background content will likely be rehashed or available elsewhere?
I've not sure I would, but I'm really not certain, as I do like my books.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Very cool that the rules are in WD. So here's a question for you -- if you get all the rules for all the units in White Dwarf, and then a Codex is published that contains those same rules (plus some fluff and photography at the beginning), would you buy the Codex? For me -- it would be a qualified yes -- yes on armies that I'm interested in.
No for me. If I buy the potentially 4 WDs, that's still only a third of the price of a codex, and between that the leaks, I have all the rules I need. The fluff I can find elsewhere.
2015/02/06 19:11:31
Subject: Eldar Q1 2015 Release - Plastic Harlequin models
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