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I can see them digging up some of the other old plastics too eventually. For sure, the contents of the 4th edition starter (SM vs. Nids) and probably even the contents of the 3rd edition starter (SM vs. Dark Eldar).
Recutting sprues... while good, is the costly part.

UPDATE on the Build + Paint sets coming from GW later this year!

I've been to talk to the GW guys just now and spoke with the person who is the main contact that is listed on the flyer. GW *are* aiming to get into big-box, high/main street retailers as well as 'normal' model & hobby shops.

Box art is not finalized, neither are the actual contents, so the sprues, sprue colors and paint colors are subject to change. I was even asked if the sprues ought to be colored blue or green (I think they should). They're not aiming these sets at gamers or even 40K players, the guy I talked to reminisced with me about playing with his Airfix models fighting dinosaurs and getting blown up by Action Man howitzers. These are for little kids to spot next to the Airfix sets in hobby and craft stores and potentially bigger retail chains as well.

We asked if AoS/fantasy boxes will come and that will depend on requests and demand. Probably no new molds, they're looking at existing molds only at the moment. I don't know what that means for model choice or whatever, but tooling new molds would cut into the margin quite a bit, I imagine.

So that should answer questions about the sprues, setting, art, who they're selling too and what's in the boxes.

These are some very interesting news, thank you for posting.

The price range shown on the poster is what they are aiming at?

Did he say something about rules in the boxed sets?

I would absolutely love a cheap source of trukks, but alas I think it will just be the old Gorkamorka one reboxed.

Hope I'm wrong!

If they really will use the existing or even discontinued sprues, selling a Land Speeder to an 8-year old sounds like a fine way to lose a customer forever.

For every vet they lose though, they may gain quite a few more in terms of wayward parents reminiscing about the good old days and playing with their kids.

But man, if they went back and started digging up old fantasy kits... guess I should start my letter writing campaign for cheap Skaven and old school Chaos Warriors.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
If they really will use the existing or even discontinued sprues, selling a Land Speeder to an 8-year old sounds like a fine way to lose a customer forever.

Why? What's wrong with a Land Speeder?

 Talys wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
If they really will use the existing or even discontinued sprues, selling a Land Speeder to an 8-year old sounds like a fine way to lose a customer forever.

Why? What's wrong with a Land Speeder?

I’ve only built the old kit, and it’s not the easiest thing to go together. I wouldn’t call it an “advanced” kit, but it’s no beginner kit either. Probably high-moderate on the skill level. You need to have multiple things line up, do things in the right order, and the old kits had warping issues.

Not the best thing for first impressions.

 krushgroove wrote:
UPDATE on the Build + Paint sets coming from GW later this year!

I've been to talk to the GW guys just now and spoke with the person who is the main contact that is listed on the flyer. GW *are* aiming to get into big-box, high/main street retailers as well as 'normal' model & hobby shops.

Box art is not finalized, neither are the actual contents, so the sprues, sprue colors and paint colors are subject to change. I was even asked if the sprues ought to be colored blue or green (I think they should). They're not aiming these sets at gamers or even 40K players, the guy I talked to reminisced with me about playing with his Airfix models fighting dinosaurs and getting blown up by Action Man howitzers. These are for little kids to spot next to the Airfix sets in hobby and craft stores and potentially bigger retail chains as well.

We asked if AoS/fantasy boxes will come and that will depend on requests and demand. Probably no new molds, they're looking at existing molds only at the moment. I don't know what that means for model choice or whatever, but tooling new molds would cut into the margin quite a bit, I imagine.

So that should answer questions about the sprues, setting, art, who they're selling too and what's in the boxes.

Awesome to hear that they are aiming for big box retail. Maybe I will be able to purchase miniatures at Target after all.

 Talys wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
If they really will use the existing or even discontinued sprues, selling a Land Speeder to an 8-year old sounds like a fine way to lose a customer forever.

Why? What's wrong with a Land Speeder?

...You've never built one, have you?

Try building the old metal one (and basing it) #shudder

 lord_blackfang wrote:
If they really will use the existing or even discontinued sprues, selling a Land Speeder to an 8-year old sounds like a fine way to lose a customer forever.

Man I remember assembling the 3rd ed starter set way back when I was a kid...that Landspeeder was an absolute nightmare.

While I applaud GW's initiative, their attempts to break into the mainstream means that pricing needs to be tightly researched. They'll be going up against: http://www.revell.com/model-kits/entertainment/starwars.html and at the trade show proposed pricing, I think that their offerings are lacking in comparison. The Revell kits are molded in color and snapfit, no painting, meaning its not targeting the exact same market, but it is definitely a larger, easy to build for newbies, and consistently looks good out of the box product.

Build two 3rd edition speeders when I was 12 years old... had no problem.

Is games workshop the plucky underdog in this situation?

 Dendarien wrote:
I would absolutely love a cheap source of trukks, but alas I think it will just be the old Gorkamorka one reboxed.

Hope I'm wrong!

They make reasonable buggies though

Herzlos wrote:
I'm wondering if their plan is to use obsolete stuff for the build + paint because:

1. It's cheap (they've already got the designs and potentially the moulds)
2. It's not compatible with the current ranges meaning:
a. People will still buy the normal ones
b. People will be forced to migrate across to play.

I really hope for their sake this stuff is fully compatible, but that Gorkamorka truck is tiny by modern standards.

It's not going to be much good to a novice, but part of the reason the Gorkamorka trukk is tiny is because the body of the vehicle is really low to the ground. Make an undercarriage to attach the wheels to and simultaneously raise the flatbed/cab and that makes a big difference. It's a conversion I've seen online but as I say beyond what a novice could probably convincingly execute. To get it more precisely to scale you'd also have to lengthen the side access slightly and fabricate some engine housing to sit in front of the drivers cab.

They're either just concept pictures and the art and sprues are placeholder, or they're very old concept pictures from when the art and sprues weren't as out-of-date, or else they're both. But hey, lets' all lose our minds about it.

Very interesting, very interesting...
Geeze, if these end up in Michael's and I can use a 50% coupon, I might be able to field a decent number of Deffkoptas.

 Bull0 wrote:
They're either just concept pictures and the art and sprues are placeholder, or they're very old concept pictures from when the art and sprues weren't as out-of-date, or else they're both. But hey, lets' all lose our minds about it.

Which 'all' are you referring to here? So far, most of the comments have been positive, old sprues and art and all...

Tell me about these 50% coupons, and how does one use them with the online store?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
The $39 USD Ork bundle appears to have some form of Big Boss, one Deff Kopta, and 7 Orks in it. Basically, it will be this sprue (Assault on Black Reach Sprue C). Heck, one of the images flat out shows this exact sprue. There is also a single spure snap-fit terminator depicted, but it doesn't align to any of the AoBR miniatures. It is right next to the SM bike kit, so it is likely the Space Marine Captain. I can't find any models that corresponds to this sprue. It appears to also have a standard hanger meant for a paper standard like models used to have way back when.

Spoiler:

Hold your horses, though! I'm pretty sure that so far all the material shown is mock-up only - they might have used AOBR / misc. stuff and sprayed it blue/green just to demonstrate the concept, and many of those sprues are not final. Some could be, though. Further, all the stuff will probably be 8 yo. friendly snapfit-style, meaning that non-snapfits like the speeders will be retooled and some kits like possibly the Ork Trukk might be new ones. It's not a huge effort for GW, as these will probably stay in production for a while.

However, what I find more interesting is that GW is actively participating in a toy fair, and also looking for new distribution channels and audience. If they are marketing them to toy stores, it probably will mean that the kit prices are quite low, as suggested by the demo prices that even include some paints etc. extras.

IMO this sounds like another strangely smart market decision by GW right after the return of Specialist Games.. Could it be that GW's failboat actually is changing it's direction?

 prowla wrote:
Further, all the stuff will probably be snapfit-style, meaning that non-snapfits like the speeders will be retooled.

Not according to this post.

They're not looking at any new moulds. So the only things that would be snap-fit are sprues that are already snap-fit.

 insaniak wrote:

 prowla wrote:
Further, all the stuff will probably be snapfit-style, meaning that non-snapfits like the speeders will be retooled.

Not according to this post.

They're not looking at any new moulds. So the only things that would be snap-fit are sprues that are already snap-fit.

Although he mentioned that 'nothing is finalized yet'.

Probably they will use the snap-fit sprues that exist, at first. However, I don't think they can mix more complex kits with the lineup, if these are all ment to be 8 yo. friendly. Hence retooling what doesn't exist in correct format.

 insaniak wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
They're either just concept pictures and the art and sprues are placeholder, or they're very old concept pictures from when the art and sprues weren't as out-of-date, or else they're both. But hey, lets' all lose our minds about it.

Which 'all' are you referring to here? So far, most of the comments have been positive, old sprues and art and all...

Pages and pages of people debating what the use of the gorkamorka trukks means, and speculating how they're doing it to avoid cannibalizing sales of the main 40k kits, etc. Based on some concept pictures of not final contents. That "all".

That looks like what GW does every couple of years to clear out old stock.

Good snatch and grabs, though, before they come up with the obligatory more expensive replacement models.

No faith in this, BTW. this is a standard practice by them to clear out older stuff.

 insaniak wrote:

 prowla wrote:
Further, all the stuff will probably be snapfit-style, meaning that non-snapfits like the speeders will be retooled.

Not according to this post.

They're not looking at any new moulds. So the only things that would be snap-fit are sprues that are already snap-fit.

The ork box would be missing a plastic Mega-armoured Boss then, and come with 2 marines and 2 Termies.

 Bull0 wrote:

Pages and pages of people debating what the use of the gorkamorka trukks means, and speculating how they're doing it to avoid cannibalizing sales of the main 40k kits, etc. Based on some concept pictures of not final contents. That "all".

Ah, ok. So the issue is that you have trouble telling the difference between 'discussion' and 'losing our minds'...

 prowla wrote:
Probably they will use the snap-fit sprues that exist, at first. However, I don't think they can mix more complex kits with the lineup, if these are all ment to be 8 yo. friendly. Hence retooling what doesn't exist in correct format.

Of the kits shown so far, the landspeeder is the only one that's particularly complex. The rest are either snapfit or really basic kits to assemble. And even the speeder isn't particularly complex compared to most scale model kits out there.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 prowla wrote:
Further, all the stuff will probably be snapfit-style, meaning that non-snapfits like the speeders will be retooled.

Not according to this post.

They're not looking at any new moulds. So the only things that would be snap-fit are sprues that are already snap-fit.

The ork box would be missing a plastic Mega-armoured Boss then, and come with 2 marines and 2 Termies.

no it doesn't. Look at the sprue image I posted. It is the same sprue from the display no Marines or Termies. Warboss in Mega Armour is in the bottom left portion of the sprue.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

The ork box would be missing a plastic Mega-armoured Boss then, and come with 2 marines and 2 Termies.

The sprue pictured in the tradeshow images is this one - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/120/677961.page#8411266

It has the Warboss on it, although he's not in Mega Armour. I suspect that's a typo, the same as the 'attack bike' label on the marine bike.

Most likely the mockup boxes were designed by someone who's not actually all that familiar with what the different models are called...