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This Ogre looks good, but its obviously been designed with the Human team in mind, as par the season 1 book that's the only team he can join.

Think I'll add mine to the Marauders team, as I already have Zug for the Reavers, and Griff will be coming at some point.

edit - actually going on the shared elements with the Human team, really makes me ponder what the Troll will look like as it'll be affiliated with the Orcs. Unless it comes out after the Goblins of course, but the idea of a Troll having the same pad design and armour plates as the Orcs would be rather cool.

Baxx wrote:
They look over the top ultra violent, which isn't matching their medium low bash stats very well. Preferably the blitzer would be the only one to have these gauntlet knives, but instead, the bashiest player on the team only has a single one! And him having just one murder-hand is also just one of two ways to identify him from the linemen, the other being a slighy larger " cock's comb".

For whatever reason both the Orcs and Humans have these stupid large fist spikes, to the point they couldn't even pick up a ball if they tried. The Skaven, Dwarfs and even the new plastic Ogre are much more reasonable, so I wonder if there was a shift in attitude from the GW designers part way through (maybe someone pointed out that BB players only sometimes kill each other, not ALWAYS kill each other ).

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Baxx wrote:
They look over the top ultra violent, which isn't matching their medium low bash stats very well. Preferably the blitzer would be the only one to have these gauntlet knives, but instead, the bashiest player on the team only has a single one! And him having just one murder-hand is also just one of two ways to identify him from the linemen, the other being a slighy larger " cock's comb".

For whatever reason both the Orcs and Humans have these stupid large fist spikes, to the point they couldn't even pick up a ball if they tried. The Skaven, Dwarfs and even the new plastic Ogre are much more reasonable, so I wonder if there was a shift in attitude from the GW designers part way through (maybe someone pointed out that BB players only sometimes kill each other, not ALWAYS kill each other ).

I almost wonder if the huge spiked gauntlets are just a nod to the rules. The average human player, with no one around him, only successfully picks up an unattended ball two-thirds of the time--maybe due to the knuckledusters!

Easy to just trim them down to knuckledusters if you don't like the look.
They are great sculpts. Making the heads easy to replace with FW or whatever parts has more value than shoulderpads IMO.
The helmets are a good compromise on a sporty look while minimising the painting difficulty.

As a newcomer to the game i can certainly say that they sculpts are excellent. Perhaps a few too many blades, but I'd say that this is nit-picking.

 plastictrees wrote:
Easy to just trim them down to knuckledusters if you don't like the look.

A lot of them still look derpy when you do that, unless you plan on rescuplting a portion of the hand.

I love how the Blitzmania promo card for the week lets you put an Ogre on the field, just in time to preorder yourself the new plastic Ogre.

That looks like a fun card indeed! You could end up with 12 players and if you already have an Ogre, you'll have 2! Combined with another card which lets you take a player from reserves into the pitch, you could actually end up with 13 players on the pitch haha.

What I don't like about the Blitzmania cards, at least the ones I got, is that they have a very different tone or shine on the back, so they are easily identified when mixing with the core deck.

I was looking for the kind of plastic card sleeves with full cover on the back, but you'll hardly even find clear plastic sleeves for that weird size of cards (75mm x 110mm).

Another Blitzmania card seemed really lackluster, the one which might give you an extra re-roll by rolling a D6, and if you failed, you could try again... for 100k per card, that's worse than just buying an Extra Team Training re-roll instead.

The red ones so far seemed alright for color matching, but the greens were definitely a bit brighter shade of green. Otherwise on cards I don't know and haven't read the league rules yet (but really should since one is starting really soon) so I've only done the free 1-3 cards per game. Have enjoyed their random shenanigans so far.

What's your take on the new stuff for Human Nobility and Savage Orc teams. Would Human Nobility have access to same star players as standard Humans? Savage Orcs have access to same star players as standard Orcs?

Would Grut Gitgobbla and Waaagh! Drummer be available to Orcs as well as Savage Orcs? Any other teams?

Would Heinrich von Duisgart and Master of Ballistics be available to Humans as well as Human Nobility? Any other teams?

I'd say yes.

Well the Savage Orcs and Human Nobility are not legal teams to start with so really whatever your opponents will let you play.

Saw some rumours about upcoming news for Blood Bowl in the next White Dwarf.

Special rules for the different team balls.

New pitch, the Reikland Reavers Oldbowl Stadium, made of neoprene and rollable, £35

Source: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/716578.page

 AduroT wrote:
Well the Savage Orcs and Human Nobility are not legal teams to start with so really whatever your opponents will let you play.

Talking about legal in a game where players bring chainsaws into the pitch... what harm could a few analphabetic orcs do in comparison?

The special balls are definitely in there. You declare you're using one when kicking off and which player is kicking. If you roll doubles on the kick off table he's ejected like he got caught committing a foul. The options are an extra spiky ball that any team can use, won't bounce and might injure you if you fail to grab it. One legged squig that Orcs can use, might escape from someone holding it at the end of a turn, and if no one is holding it it will bounce several times. Warpstone censer for the Skaven, which can cause some random temporary mutations if you miss a grab. Stone ball for Dwarves, won't bounce, harder to throw far, might injure if you fail to catch or if it lands on a knocked down player.

Those are better than expected, super fluffy!

Baxx wrote:

Source: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/716578.page

 AduroT wrote:
Well the Savage Orcs and Human Nobility are not legal teams to start with so really whatever your opponents will let you play.

Talking about legal in a game where players bring chainsaws into the pitch... what harm could a few analphabetic orcs do in comparison?

It's just that they haven't been tested in the community yet... which is the purpose of releasing the rules. They are 'playtest' teams, and a lot of events aren't going to allow them. Cheating is a mechanic in Malifux... that doesn't mean that you can take an illegal list to an event.
Communicate... communicate with event organizers. Encourage event organizers to communicate with the community.

For the record, I'd probably be ok with Feral Orks... the Nobility team is Baaa-rooo-ken!

Well I'm not going to allow a lot of events, so that's mutual.

Looks like the special balls are pretty much in line with expectations… though I reckon the Skaven/warpstone one would be more interesting if handling it gave the player access to the M list of skills, but you roll an injury every time the player mutates.

Doesn't Skaven already have access to mutations? If so, then giving possible mutation to a player would only be a bonus to any non-mutation opposite teams of Skaven.

Why would Skaven be encouraged to use the ball?

It's a temporary mutation, and I don't know about the ones from the league rules as I've not read those yet, but these were mostly all bad mutations. One causes a Knockdown with a +1 to the resulting armor roll, one gives you No Hands, one Bone Head, one -2 move but also Thick Skull, one Foul Appearance (don't know what that does off hand), and lastly one gives +1 armor.

variant Special Play card rules to try out..

https://19070-presscdn-0-68-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Special-Play-Card-Variants.pdf

 reds8n wrote:
variant Special Play card rules to try out..

https://19070-presscdn-0-68-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Special-Play-Card-Variants.pdf

I think GW forgot that they flipped the random events and mischellaneous mayhem decks (Mischellaneous mayhem is the deck that should be 200k or 4 points per card).

Haha they have still not picked that mistake up!

I've actually used a 4th variant. Use the rules exactly as in the rule book or death zone 1, but add a limitation of maximum 1 card per deck. This prevents a power rush were both players just draw all their cards from the most valuable deck. Instead, you get to draw and keep cards from different decks, increasing variety.

If you're elligeble to draw more cards than there are decks, then you can have an additional card from a deck you've already drawn from.

Quite a lot of additional rules to keep track of now, various pdfs, teams, side releases, erratas, limited releases, white dwarf rules and so forth.

I got a collection of all new Blood Bowl rules merged into the previous LRB6 if anyone is interested.

What all special rules have shown up in White Dwarf now? There's these new balls, anything else?

There are referee rules also.

Is there a way to get those other than the White Dwarf?

Yes, I have all rules collected into one document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKTUtkM-eQPMtuw6e2B016HNhybHlwNof_nvTmg7fLY/edit?usp=sharing

Design is not yet finished.

https://mikeyc222.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/the-new-blood-bowl-ogre-is-here/

might be of interest.



Here is the Ogre next to the new Morg and a new Human lineman.




Here is the new Ogre next to a 3rd edition Morg and a 5th edition Ogre. Surprisingly, if the 5th edition Ogre was standing up straight, it would be taller than the new Ogre. I did not really expect that. Not surprisingly, the new Ogre is a little bit bigger than the 3rd edition Morg, but not significantly bigger.



And finally the shot that everyone always seems to ask for, the new Ogre next to a 3rd edition lineman

Baxx wrote:
Yes, I have all rules collected into one document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKTUtkM-eQPMtuw6e2B016HNhybHlwNof_nvTmg7fLY/edit?usp=sharing

Design is not yet finished.

Wow, thanks for this! Impressive effort. Nice to see everything in one place.

Where are the new ball rules? I'm having trouble tracking them down, if they're in there yet.

Thanks!

Yes I haven't gotten all the latest stuff in yet. Guess I need to:

-add a list of included rules
-clean up design, layout, colours
-refresh index
-star players

I'll fix up these things this week.

Newly added:

-team-specific ball rules
-team logos
-list of included rules

Thank you for taking this on!