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Unsure about the thrower pose...and the paintjob is tacky and not in a good harlequin cyber elf way. Seeing 360 spins of these or them unpainted could change my mind. I suppose they are decent enough....

I personally hope we get halflings in plastic, that would be an instant buy for me. I need an easy way to handicap myself so my friends have an easier time or even a chance at winning.

How does the Elven Union compare to the Wood Elf list? I bought a 3rd party elf team to paint up, but am rather fond of these new ones coming out. Would it be better just to paint these guys in greens and browns and toss in a treeman? Elven Union didn't look like it had any fun heavy hitters, but I haven't actually played yet so I have no reference to judge

Baxx wrote:
How you get time to paint all of that?

Been quite busy painting the new GW range, still I'm lagging 2 teams behind and 2 star players.

I've been collecting Blood Bowl/Fantasy Football figures since first edition. We were Hacking up D&D figures when the game was card standups. I still have about 20 of these Frankinstiens.

Now I own about 1,700 BB/FF figures. Why? I have no idea...


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 ekwatts wrote:
Not mad on the colour scheme, but they look fantastic.

I feel like if I buy them I'm going to end up keeping them unassembled until Forge World release the inevitable mohican conversion kit so I can make a modernised Albion Assassins team (from the back of the BB2 2nd Edition Star Players book, I used to have a painted version made from the awful yellow plastic elves in the Dungeon Bowl box).

"The Albion Assassins meet the Death Wish in a mid field Melee."

I painted my 2nd ed metal Elf's as the Assassins. Good times.

 Kalamadea wrote:
How does the Elven Union compare to the Wood Elf list? I bought a 3rd party elf team to paint up, but am rather fond of these new ones coming out. Would it be better just to paint these guys in greens and browns and toss in a treeman? Elven Union didn't look like it had any fun heavy hitters, but I haven't actually played yet so I have no reference to judge

Elven Union doesn't have the treeman, but they are fast and have possibly the best catchers in the game. The blitzers also start with a couple useful skills like block and sidestep. They are fragile like WE as well so you don't want to take injuries. If you painted them in greens and browns they could pass off as Wood Elves without too much trouble. The problem is making one or two look like a wardancer, I tend to like different positionals to look a bit distinct.

I am suitable impressed by those elves. If I had some spare change burning a hole in my pocket, I would not be surprised if I walked out of a store with a box...and I don't even play Blood Bowl. I'd be worried if they did a proper Dark Elf team... =$=

This looks better than the final heads on the blitzer, I don't know why they changed it but the hair is wonky as hell on the final head. And this head has nice flowing hair, not sure why they changed it. Perhaps this head is an option on the sprue..but simply is not shown in the painted images. Also bummed about the lack of mohawks, the BB2 Legendary Edition version of this team that just came out is superior in aesthetics in my opinion.

I'm not seeing a difference between the head in the render and the head on the painted Blitzers.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I'm not seeing a difference between the head in the render and the head on the painted Blitzers.

The flow of the hair, and mask is different...gotta have an eye for detail I guess.

The mask is slightly different, but the hair looks mostly a case of the angle you're viewing it at.

It looks like they put the head on at an angle, looking downwards instead of straight ahead.

Ah yeah the mask is a bit different. The hair is the same, just a different angle.

Still waiting on my Chaos team.

 EnTyme wrote:
Still waiting on my Chaos team.

Whoops, looks like you didn't specify which Chaos team it was you were waiting for.

In all seriousness though, I thought it wouldn't be that hard to put 2 Warriors and 4 Beastmen on a sprue and stick a pair of said sprues in a box; looks like FW already took care of the Minotaur.

Yeah. That minotaur is awesome, but the rest of it looks like someone said "Chaos army? Just throw together a bunch of gak from other teams and paint it darker!" Definitely disappointing.

 EnTyme wrote:
Yeah. That minotaur is awesome, but the rest of it looks like someone said "Chaos army? Just throw together a bunch of gak from other teams and paint it darker!" Definitely disappointing.

Chaos Renegades are made up of the riff-raff from other teams: multiple Big Guys, humans, orcs, skaven, and gobbos all (sort of) playing together. Different from the traditional Chaos Team, which is Minotaur, Chaos Warriors, and Beastmen.

Exactly.

2nd Edition BB had more mixed-race teams, allowing you to field some pretty wacky (and/or broken) lineups. The "Underworld Denizens" team is a similar callback. So, there's a fair bit of history and "in-universe" precedent for the team assembled there.

On the evidence of the latest releases I wouldn't be too surprised if we saw some more odd-bod teams pop up as the design team in charge appear to have loosened the shackles a little and are taking a huge dollop of inspiration from the 2nd Edition aesthetic and designing teams to match. Dropping an Orc into the Chaos Renegade lineup (basically just to allow Renegade players to field a lineup resembling the Mongrel Horde 2nd edition rulebook art, attached below) is a funny little indicator of that. So as some of the classic 3rd+ teams are translated into BB 2016 I wouldn't be surprised to see some small changes and/or new teams altogether, inspired by the 2nd Ed lineups. I'm personally holding out for a Troll team, similar to the Ogre team, but even more useless and fun.

Some of the old Dungeonbowl teams were pretty interesting, actually.

Haven't picked up any Bloodbowl rulebooks yet, but can anyone confirm that there are at least rules for the Beastmen + Chaos Warriors Choas team? That's what I've been holding out for. It's by far my favorite in the VG (though I do like the new Khemri team, too).

 EnTyme wrote:
Haven't picked up any Bloodbowl rulebooks yet, but can anyone confirm that there are at least rules for the Beastmen + Chaos Warriors Choas team? That's what I've been holding out for. It's by far my favorite in the VG (though I do like the new Khemri team, too).

You're in luck; that team is now called the Chaos Chosen team and while it hasn't been printed in the season books so far, it's available on the GW Teams of Legend PDF here:

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/blood_bowl/teams_of_legend_en.pdf

Khemri is also included, as are many others.

Rules for Elf teams (Union, High, Dark and Wood), Dwarves, Humans, Orcs, Nurgle and Skaven are not on that document as they've been printed in Death Zone Season One, while Chaos Renegades and Goblins are in Season Two and differ slightly from the versions on the Teams of Legend PDF now. Underworld Denizens are also dealt with in Season Two but I don't think there are any changes for them.

Well that's good to know. Hopefully they'll get a model release soonish, otherwise, I may have to do some conversion work.

 EnTyme wrote:
Well that's good to know. Hopefully they'll get a model release soonish, otherwise, I may have to do some conversion work.

Since they haven't even made the seasons books I would say they're pretty far down the list, if they even come at all.

All teams from previous edition including Chaos are also in the new edition. Even teams that GW no longer supports (like Slann) are very much still in the game because NAF will never exclude them, and NAF usually sets the precedence over GW.

I doubt Season 2 is the last of the books going off prior announcements signifying continuing and more regular BB support, so I expect Chaos Chosen will be popping up at some point in the future, and once that happens, model support of some form will follow.

At this stage I wouldn't make any assumptions as to which teams are likely to pop up in the Season books.

As for the NAF, they really only acted as the authority while GW had moved BB into a managed decline during the gradual wind-down of Specialist Games. I don't think anyone is going to dispute that GW are back in the driving seat at this point; they've made changes to the Chaos Renegades and Goblin teams, for instance, that haven't been disputed so I'd say that the ball is back in GWs court as to what's considered official (as is right, considering they own the property).

I was never a big fan of the NAFs stewardship anyway. They always seemed far more focussed on keeping the rules and team lists as stripped down and beige as possible for the purposes of tournament fairness. That's not really what Blood Bowl is about to me but I understand where they're coming from.

I agree partially, because GW is pushing out new things and mostly they make good changes and good new stuff.

NAF in my eyes seem very conservative. Any change needs a long time to mature to be supported. Some notable exceptions are the new goblin positionals and other minor changes to the teams by GW.

However, good luck finding any tournament following GW's rules and not NAF. Playing at a GW tournament, you won't be allowed to field Slann. Playing at any NAF tournament, you will always be guaranteed to be able to field Slann. There's not too many changes between the two rule sets, but there certainly are some, and GW is not having the final word in that matter.

Well, yes, they are, as they own the game. The "NAF", such as it is, can do whatever they like outside of official GW stores/events, they could even come up with a rubbish ape team that isn't featured in any Warhammer background or... oh, right, yeah. The Simyin.

Anyway, I get what you're saying, but in the end, with no official models (and since 3rd edition, no supporting fluff) coming for Slann, they're effectively just a homebrew, house-ruled fan addition to the game.

I'm not impugning them, but with GW now back in the driver seat with Blood Bowl, there's much more clarity on what counts as official, and Slann ain't. That'll never stop people playing with them, of course, but GW have never discouraged house rules.

The ape team is not supported or legal i any NAF tournaments. They have been keeping the community alive and the Simyin is just an example of new ideas, hardly anything you can hold against someone.

GW can do whatever they like in their tournaments, they own the game. But it will just be a tiny part of the tournaments, almost all of which follow NAF's rules. I've seen some characteristics of GW tournaments which I don't like:

-expensive
-only GW models allowed (so either convert, collect rare classic teams or play a very limited selection)
-they do more unconventional stuff (which I enjoy but others don't) like special play card(s) etc.
-very limited set of star players

Andy Hoare will be on Warhammer TV today.

 Ghaz wrote:
Andy Hoare will be on Warhammer TV today.

Did anyone catch the stream? Any news?

I hope we see the Nurgle team soon... In theory it is the last so should follow the elves, but... Hells, there's so man star players - I hope to see anything new!

I saw the stream. The elf team is two identical sprues, but with 9 pieces per mini rather than three. The facemasks are a separate piece for example. There will also be a high elf pitch, one side of which is frozen. There will be dice, team cards and card sleeves released.
He reiterated the plan to do one team a quarter but did not say which is coming next.