Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.

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**.Mikes.**

Well the lack of Goblins was more an inference from the person asking the questions. Given the shake up of factions it would be odd if they didn't at leats include them as a sub faction somewhere.

Ditto, given their current business is RPGs I'd be surprised if they don't follow through with a Cadwallon RPG if Confrontation takes off. Makes sense they wouldn't commit to one now without knowing how well the core game will go.

**fresus**

Thanks for the info Mikes. Can you also provide a link to the post in question please?
And if you guys find something that seems important, I'd be happy to translate it from French.

**.Mikes.**

Ah sorry, I thought I'd posted the link. Here it is: http://confrontation.vraiforum.com/t3515-Confrontation-r-surrection.htm?start=345

And thank you for the offer. Direct translation is often dodgy.

I signed up to the forum to keep abrest of updates, and also the San Detour newsletter,so I'll post them here as and when, and I will ask for translation for anything difficult, thank you!

**Samko**

Monkeysloth wrote:
Hope we don't loose the Asian Goblins as the Goblins were my favorite line.

Also hope something comes of the Cawallon.com stuff, their existence pretty much kills any reason for SD do to classic. Coming to some licensing agreement would be a great way to handle it as you're never going to get them to go away.

Also sad to hear they don't have any plans for the RPG. It's a great system but really, really poorly written. They re-wrote it in French but we never got the English translation. Maybe if the skirmish game got popular enough they'd be willing to license it out to a 3rd party.

Also I hope they give their English Translators more time. One of theirs used to hang out on a forum I use to visit and the deadlines where crazy short, like 2 days for a whole book.

Hi, I'm the one who posted the last message translated by .Mikes..

I don't know if they will make new asian goblins but they said that they will release stats for all the old range to play with in the new game.

The penultimate line is about their plans for a RPG (but it looks like google doesn't know that JDR in french means RPG ^^).
They do plan to do a RPG in the confrontation universe and it will be different from cadwallon rpg. It will be more focused on the role-playing aspect and less on the tactical miniature fights.

**Riquende**

bubber wrote:

Thanks - you just made me spend $67 inc P&P on the Titan Dragon!

Same...

**.Mikes.**

Samko wrote:
Hi, I'm the one who posted the last message translated by .Mikes..

I don't know if they will make new asian goblins but they said that they will release stats for all the old range to play with in the new game.

The penultimate line is about their plans for a RPG (but it looks like google doesn't know that JDR in french means RPG ^^).
They do plan to do a RPG in the confrontation universe and it will be different from cadwallon rpg. It will be more focused on the role-playing aspect and less on the tactical miniature fights.

Thanks for the reply, much better to get it straight from the source

**Monkeysloth**

.Mikes. wrote:
Samko wrote:
Hi, I'm the one who posted the last message translated by .Mikes..

I don't know if they will make new asian goblins but they said that they will release stats for all the old range to play with in the new game.

The penultimate line is about their plans for a RPG (but it looks like google doesn't know that JDR in french means RPG ^^).
They do plan to do a RPG in the confrontation universe and it will be different from cadwallon rpg. It will be more focused on the role-playing aspect and less on the tactical miniature fights.

Thanks for the reply, much better to get it straight from the source

Yep, happy to hear except the Cadwallon stuff. It's a dang good RPG and not one that's more focused on combat then any other RPG. Just that the geniuses at Rackham (that's sarcastic) wanted the RPG rules to be cryptic as they thought it would be fun thus the rewrite in French after complaints. Sad that it will never get it's fair shake.

**.Mikes.**

So this happened:

**Alpharius**

'Classic' being the tabletop skirmish rules and...some miniatures?

And "Resurrection" being the boardgame, definitely with PVC miniatures?

**Riquende**

Alpharius wrote:
'Classic' being the tabletop skirmish rules and...some miniatures?

And "Resurrection" being the boardgame, definitely with PVC miniatures?

The way I take it is that 'Classic' is going to be a reprint (maybe re-edited) of the last rulebook, perhaps with miniatures but I'd assume not. Maybe card packs with rebalanced profiles? I think it's mainly being done to reignite a bit of nostalgic interest in folks before their own system comes in later.

Could be wrong.

**chaos45**

need more info--if its just a re-printed rule book and old miniatures not sure it will do well.

Most of the us old players have several 3+ edition rule books and tons of the old metals.

**Alpharius**

I think it will do "OK" if it is "just" a revised rulebook and cards.

It will hopefully re-ignite interest in the game AND get more people playing again.

Add in a couple of new miniatures (or maybe even one for each major faction), and that will help a lot too.

**Necros**

Missed out on this game back in the day, would love to check it out now. Is this gonna be a CMON game? If so guess that means their Q1 campaign will come after the Hate KS is done? that'll give me some time to save up a bit.

**Mr Morden**

Alpharius wrote:
I think it will do "OK" if it is "just" a revised rulebook and cards.

It will hopefully re-ignite interest in the game AND get more people playing again.

Add in a couple of new miniatures (or maybe even one for each major faction), and that will help a lot too.

Love to get my Devourers out again - I'd possibily pledge for a Devourers pack - a new Eclipsante Hero would be great and/or another fully armoured hero

I used to run Tyrant, Flesh Eater, Huntsmen and either elves or Elcipsantes - loved them. Especialyy against Wolfen.

We had a small tourney a few years back with lots of old players and although only came mid table - killed soooo much stuff.

**Alpharius**

Necros wrote:
Missed out on this game back in the day, would love to check it out now. Is this gonna be a CMON game? If so guess that means their Q1 campaign will come after the Hate KS is done? that'll give me some time to save up a bit.

I wasn't thinking this was going to be CMON related at all.

Yes, that is confusing, as this group, CMON and that Russian outfit are all making stuff for CONFRONTATION, more or less...

**.Mikes.**

Riquende wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
'Classic' being the tabletop skirmish rules and...some miniatures?

And "Resurrection" being the boardgame, definitely with PVC miniatures?

The way I take it is that 'Classic' is going to be a reprint (maybe re-edited) of the last rulebook, perhaps with miniatures but I'd assume not. Maybe card packs with rebalanced profiles? I think it's mainly being done to reignite a bit of nostalgic interest in folks before their own system comes in later.

This is how I took it. SD said from the outset there would be two rule sets for Resurrection, one for skirmisj tabletop, and one board game ish thing.

I'm wondering if they'll be doing something special for the 3rd ed KS, given most people who'd be interested probably already have the old rulebook. But if it gets people re-interested and gam,es played before Reso comes out I'll be happy.

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Alpharius wrote:
Necros wrote:
Missed out on this game back in the day, would love to check it out now. Is this gonna be a CMON game? If so guess that means their Q1 campaign will come after the Hate KS is done? that'll give me some time to save up a bit.

I wasn't thinking this was going to be CMON related at all.

No, CMON aren't involved. Cadwallon add a complication, but from the stuff i posted above I'm taking away that while the old mdoels will be compatible new stuff will be made for Reso, although that's me reading into it, so I could be wrong.

**youwashock**

I would love to see Confrontation readily available and wildly popular again. I fear that will also mean me buying more Confrontation...

**.Mikes.**

You say that like it's a bad thing.

**Alpharius**

.Mikes. wrote:
Riquende wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
'Classic' being the tabletop skirmish rules and...some miniatures?

And "Resurrection" being the boardgame, definitely with PVC miniatures?

The way I take it is that 'Classic' is going to be a reprint (maybe re-edited) of the last rulebook, perhaps with miniatures but I'd assume not. Maybe card packs with rebalanced profiles? I think it's mainly being done to reignite a bit of nostalgic interest in folks before their own system comes in later.

This is how I took it. SD said from the outset there would be two rule sets for Resurrection, one for skirmisj tabletop, and one board game ish thing.

I'm wondering if they'll be doing something special for the 3rd ed KS, given most people who'd be interested probably already have the old rulebook. But if it gets people re-interested and gam,es played before Reso comes out I'll be happy.

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Alpharius wrote:
Necros wrote:
Missed out on this game back in the day, would love to check it out now. Is this gonna be a CMON game? If so guess that means their Q1 campaign will come after the Hate KS is done? that'll give me some time to save up a bit.

I wasn't thinking this was going to be CMON related at all.

No, CMON aren't involved. Cadwallon add a complication, but from the stuff i posted above I'm taking away that while the old mdoels will be compatible new stuff will be made for Reso, although that's me reading into it, so I could be wrong.

Isn't that what I said?

That CMON wasn't going to be involved?

At least, not with the manufacturing of anything here...

**.Mikes.**

You said you thought.

**highlord tamburlaine**

So are they going to try and get Cadwallon and Legendarion working with them?

I'll be honest, they both put out some neat sculpts that definitely carry on the feel of Confrontation, but their recasting of other stuff always makes me balk at supporting them.

Probably wishful thinking...

**.Mikes.**

The stuff I linked above said that Cadwallon had been contacted by SD, but that was it. Could be they might try and get them on board, or could be that new stuff will slowly be released to replace the existing stuff and evenutally phase out any impact Cadwallon could have. But that's just me thinking out loud.

**Alpharius**

.Mikes. wrote:The stuff I linked above said that Cadwallon had been contacted by SD, but that was it. Could be they might try and get them on board, or could be that new stuff will slowly be released to replace the existing stuff and evenutally phase out any impact Cadwallon could have. But that's just me thinking out loud.

You don't say?

highlord tamburlaine wrote:So are they going to try and get Cadwallon and Legendarion working with them?

I'll be honest, they both put out some neat sculpts that definitely carry on the feel of Confrontation, but their recasting of other stuff always makes me balk at supporting them.

Probably wishful thinking...

Probably try and get them to be a 'licensed partner' of something similar, but seeing as Cadwallon has been doing this for years (apparently) without one, and is located in Russia...in seems unlikely.

Still, stranger things have happened.

**DanceOfSlaanesh**

Problem with cadwallon, is that those casts are not 100% good. Some are perfect, but i know some figures were cast with a missing leg, disfigured face etc. (Dont ask me how i know). I dont know have many percent are bad casts, but i dont think thats something you can sell legit or people would be very upset.

**youwashock**

Riquende wrote:
bubber wrote:

Thanks - you just made me spend $67 inc P&P on the Titan Dragon!

Same...

At the very least this news has helped move three dragons...

**.Mikes.**

If only Bilbo had known.

**Riquende**

.Mikes. wrote:
If only Bilbo had known.

Actually I always wanted the dragon. I was in a dead end job at the time and there was no way I could justify it. When I was earning decent money they cropped up on ebay from time to time but always went for more than I was prepared to pay.

My local group is currently cautiously excited about developments with this game. I sold a lot of mine off but retained fully painted forces for Mid Nor, Wolfen, Ophidians and Griffons. I've also got huge unpainted forces for Acheron and Cadwallon that I might well get more enthused about tackling.

**thekingofkings**

DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
Problem with cadwallon, is that those casts are not 100% good. Some are perfect, but i know some figures were cast with a missing leg, disfigured face etc. (Dont ask me how i know). I dont know have many percent are bad casts, but i dont think thats something you can sell legit or people would be very upset.

I have had nothing but perfect casts, but my bud had one miscast and they replaced for him pretty fast.

**Sikil**

I realy hope that the Dirz will remain largely the same. They where my favorite. However, I must say that I had hoped for a continuation of Ragnarok and not the skirmish game. I realy enjoed Confrontation in the mass combat version!

**quickfuze**

Sikil wrote:
I realy hope that the Dirz will remain largely the same. They where my favorite. However, I must say that I had hoped for a continuation of Ragnarok and not the skirmish game. I realy enjoed Confrontation in the mass combat version!

Too much competition out there for massed combat. I think this game was never better than during the Dogs of War progressive experience leagues time....such a good game.