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 frankelee wrote:
Some people said there was no way GW was going to make anything tied to The Rings of Power show... And they were right!

Good!

 frankelee wrote:
Some people said there was no way GW was going to make anything tied to The Rings of Power show... And they were right!

We don't actually know that yet - for example, if GW does end up going down the path of elaborating on Numenor we can be pretty sure it's happening because of the Rings of Power. Is it a tied-in licensing agreement? No - but it's certainly tied to it thematically.

That said, while I get the growing apprehension with the show (one good look at Galadriels armor convinced me I wouldn't be happy with the show, despite the initial goof prospects of elven helmets elsewhere) I don't get the pure vitriol about the idea of GW making tie in minis.

Like, Jackson's LoTR is a giant disservice in a lot of ways, and I have a mixed relationship with it. But at the end of the day I can enjoy the Gondorians for example, even though I know their design is wrong.

Meh, people are picking and choosing what they want to be "tolkien" when it comes to media representation. I'm looking forward to the show and hope GW will do something with it, but if they don't we still have rules and the 3d printing community will come to the rescue.

 .Mikes. wrote:
Meh, people are picking and choosing what they want to be "tolkien" when it comes to media representation. I'm looking forward to the show and hope GW will do something with it, but if they don't we still have rules and the 3d printing community will come to the rescue.

Usually based on what is actually Tolkienesque. eg not this current mess being burped out by amazon.

Can I use your time machine?


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Actually I can't be arsed getting into a back and forth on this.

I'm old enough to remember the same arguments that the Lord of the Rings movies being made by this new Peter Jackson guy would be crap because he veered so far away from the source material.

Saying something will be bad now is guessing. Stating it as fact is wishing, and almost always dressed up to create some kind of morally superior high ground that's intended to gatekeep

...anyways, it's pretty much confirmation that GW didn't want to dip their toes into the licensing mess that would be Rings of Power, and who can blame them? A different rights holder, different license, would almost certainly require a separation of brand from the current Saul Zaentz Company licenses on LOTR and The Hobbit, just making the product offering a giant cluster.

However, it also seems to mean that GW's going to push some new Middle-earth stuff, which is great news regardless.

A rising tide lifts all boats, as they say. Regardless of how you feel on RoP, the extra attention for all things Tolkien will be a boom for our community.

Reboot of the original "three movies" content?

Doubt it. If the Osgilliath rumour holds any truth, then it gives them a chance to knock out plastic Faramir, Gothmog, Frodo, Sam and Gollum. Which would leave just Gandalf (amusingly, with all his sculpts) and Boromir to get a fully update Fellowship and quite possible a chunk of new scenery.

 .Mikes. wrote:
Can I use your time machine?


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Actually I can't be arsed getting into a back and forth on this.

I'm old enough to remember the same arguments that the Lord of the Rings movies being made by this new Peter Jackson guy would be crap because he veered so far away from the source material.

Saying something will be bad now is guessing. Stating it as fact is wishing, and almost always dressed up to create some kind of morally superior high ground that's intended to gatekeep

Appeal to history means nothing. It's an irrelevancy, especially as the situations are totally different. Pj actually respected his source material and also Tolkien's source material.

Theres no dressing it up on my part. Gate keeping from a morally superior high ground is absolutely what was required here, Christopher was doing a hell of a job, shame his kids has no qualms about whoring off their grandfather's legacy to be claimed by these idealogues.

These two were available at the doubles tournament that just passed. Usually means they're imminent for general release.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

They should have been plastic with a Haldir.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

You know as well as we all do they're never going to give plastic kits to secondary characters.

King of the Dead and Heralds say "sup".
Merry & Pippin additionally say "sup", being packaged with no less than 3 different boxes allowing for them in plastic.

Haldir's a fairly Big Deal with the portrayal of Helm's Deep in the film. His ONE armored model put on general sale is also trash compared to the Heroes of Helm's Deep version.

Having all 3 of the brothers together in plastic would have been a smart move. But no. It's more Forge World fodder meaning it's a big ol' yawn for most people.

King of the Dead's not a secondary character and he's the head of a specific faction. Merry and Pippin got put put together with another major in Treebeard. Rumil and Ororphin are not major unfortunately, as the films still take something of a precedent.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
These two were available at the doubles tournament that just passed. Usually means they're imminent for general release.

They are very nice

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
King of the Dead's not a secondary character and he's the head of a specific faction.

He's absolutely a secondary character, if you've chosen to deem Haldir as one. The King of the Dead is a plot advancement point and nothing more per the films.

Merry and Pippin got put put together with another major in Treebeard.

They've also got two other versions, both packaged with plastic heroes for other factions.

Gandalf the White in Minas Tirith comes with Pippin in his "Peregrin Took" setup as a Guard of Minas Tirith.
Eowyn includes Merry as a Knight of the Riddermark.

Rumil and Ororphin are not major unfortunately, as the films still take something of a precedent.

Yes, hence why I mentioned Haldir.

Y'know, the Elf that was a Big Frickin' Deal in Two Towers the film where he was armoured up exactly like his two brothers Rumil and Orophin?

Either way, this crap took way too long to finally show up in the wild. Defense of the North came out in MAY.

I didn't say Haldir was, i said his brothers were.

Indeed, but they're both the armoured versions. No good for the Fellowship.

Oh christ now the plague of people demanding resin company should stop producing resin. Yeah makes financial sense to have company pay full expenses and produce no income.

Kids these days. No sense of any business sense. Likely end up homeless running own economy to ruin.

There's no bloody sign in the book saying it's resin or Forge World.

I wanted plastic because plastic means that it's not as bloody frustrating to get.

The Entmoot podcast also weighted in with the rumours, repeating the Osgilliath box set rumour, with a new rule book. Not a new edition, just the existing book updated with FAQs etc (phew!).
Also mentioned getting 'Battle host' box sets, effectively start collecting sets for Middle Earth. Which sounds nice, but I'm hoping for more new minis, rather than existing ones being repackaged, even if they do come with a discount.

Interesting thought. The only issue I see however is that all the generic heroes (captains and what have you) are still in metal and resin. And I don't believe they want to do starter boxes unless it's pure plastic these days. It could mean of course that they're redoing them all in plastic, but that's very likely a stretch.

I hope they redo all those old Unit Sprues, they're mostly single or two part Models and very very dated.

They could use this to put Command options in the Sprues.

I wouldn't get your hopes up about more options or anything like that. The design ethic from the very beginning has been to keep the models simple, more akin to historicals. I don't think that'll ever change.

Interesting choice of spot to magnify.

Rivendell = High Elves = Last Alliance?

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's no bloody sign in the book saying it's resin or Forge World.

I wanted plastic because plastic means that it's not as bloody frustrating to get.

You're better off just assuming every release is resin unless it's stated otherwise.

This comes up literally every single time a FW model is previewed and 99% of the time that it's not stated outright to be plastic, it's resin.

Newest round of FAQ's are up:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/04/the-latest-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game-faq-has-arrived/

Yawn. Still having a requirement of Frodo, Sam, and Smeagol in the Ranger Legion is bleh.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yawn. Still having a requirement of Frodo, Sam, and Smeagol in the Ranger Legion is bleh.

Yeah that sort of destroyed my interest in building a Ranger list. I mean with friends at home, not an issue. But if I feel like being in a store, meh.