| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/04 09:21:18
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Automated Space Wolves Thrall
|
Hear me mortals, zenos, meq's, bugs, heretics, or space tomb kings! You, as a community should have access to more than 2 troop choices. Its boring. We need more options to keep play fluid and creative. Now I play Space Wolves and Grey Hunters are the best troops in the Imperium. Enough said. Yes, we have Blood Claws but.... uhhhh. So my dream troops are the Grey Slayers from the Eye of Terror codex. With 2 attacks base and Relentless (True Grit) they would be an amazing addition to the Great Companies. Make them 17 or 18 points (drop Claws to 14 maybe? hmmm), and we have a very nice scoring unit that can do some work.  . What do you guys think of the Slayers and what troops would you wanna see in your armies?
|
The night has fangs. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/08 00:11:39
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Fighter Pilot
Strasbourg France
|
riiiight dropping points on the already very cheap SW ? Nah.
You want meat ? play a swarm army ! guardsmen, orks tyranids you name it.
Each race has its specialty, and space marines are not a hordearmy
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/08 13:38:36
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
|
This is correct^ The only codex I see in need of another troops choice is Orks, and maybe the crons need an upgrade character to make something troops.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/08 13:54:31
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Manhunter
|
Since guard has the best troops in the game and in the fluff, I am 100% happy with what I have.
The Imperial Guard, for all your warfare needs.
|
Proud to be Obliviously Blue since 2011!
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/08 17:54:48
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
Maze wrote: So my dream troops are the Grey Slayers from the Eye of Terror codex. With 2 attacks base and Relentless (True Grit) they would be an amazing addition to the Great Companies. Make them 17 or 18 points (drop Claws to 14 maybe? hmmm),
I also would like Eldar Guardians that each carried Star Cannons for 2 points total per guy.
It's just as reasonable as your suggestion.
|
"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/09 01:45:54
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Liche Priest Hierophant
|
I'd love to see some Squig Herds as troops- or a character that could make a squad of Burnas, Stormboyz, Lootas, Kommandoes or Tankbustas into troops (different character for each, that is).
Or even if Troop Deff Dredds were able to hold objectives.
|
GENERATION 8: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.
If yer an Ork, why dont ya WAAAGH!!
M.A.V.- if you liked ChromeHounds, drop by the site and give it a go. Or check out my M.A.V. Oneshots videos on YouTube! |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/09 02:05:16
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Tough Tyrant Guard
|
I would love to see the eldar phoenix lords make the squad they are with scoring.
|
~seapheonix
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/09 02:18:13
Subject: Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Mutilatin' Mad Dok
|
Id be happy with squigs for the orks
|
WAAAHG!!! until further notice
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/09 02:19:45
Subject: Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
|
cultists.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/09 04:21:53
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
|
Defininetly Cultists, oh and named demons!
Human Auxilaries for Tau
And Wracks for DE
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/09 04:26:54
"Decadence Unbound..."
10,000+
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/09 04:39:05
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Trustworthy Shas'vre
|
I'd love to transfer Tau Pathfinders over into Troops.
|
Tau and Space Wolves since 5th Edition. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 09:11:10
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Fireknife Shas'el
All over the U.S.
|
@Jeffar I disagree about the pathfinders. Holding an objective is not their job make markerlights rapid fire and put them out in front, pulling the army forward.
For Tau, either,
XV15 battlefield training suits for shas ui teams getting ready to become shas vre elites
or
Drones as troops.
|
Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09
If they are too stupid to live, why make them?
In the immortal words of Socrates, I drank what??!
Tau-*****points(You really don't want to know) |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/11 08:25:47
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Preceptor
|
For the Sisters: Frateris Militia!
|
2000 2000 1250
Malifaux: 75 ss neverborn, 50 ss Guild.
Warmachine: 75 pts Menoth
Hordes: 65 pts trollblood
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/11 13:44:58
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
|
Would be sweet to get arbites for sisters
|
"Decadence Unbound..."
10,000+
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 22:29:04
Subject: Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Food for a Giant Fenrisian Wolf
CT, US
|
Blood Claws are, in my opinion, not worth the same as Grey Hunters. Yes, they have furious charge, but to me, i only use them when i want to troll with Lukas. Grey Hunters simply having better stats should be worth more than BC, plus they have a boltgun, making them that much more effective. you'd have to drop point costs for blood claws at least 3-4 for me to want to use them.
|
3075
1500
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 02:33:39
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Deadly Dire Avenger
Washington, DC area
|
Boarboyz for Orks, Black Guardians for Eldar.
|
http://beltway-gamers.com For those in the DC/MD area who are looking for a solid gaming club.
DS:80S+G+M--B+I+Pw40k97+ID++A+/e/mR+++T(S)DM+
>6500
6th Ed Eldar - 4/2/5
"The warhost on the hill was one of the most bizzare sights I had ever seen on a battlefield... Xenos, daemons and humans collected together in units together, gripping dice and paintbrushes; Orks, humans and creatures for which I had no name, clad in ancient armour and clothing; steam-powered walkers with antique-armoured assistants; and many bizarre war-machines, many of which had no purpose that I understood.
An Eldar, bizarrely dressed in a customised suit of power armour and standing on a shield borne by two servants, was carried forth out of the crowd. Raising his Daemon weapon, he shouted three abrupt words:
"Thin! YOUR! PAINTS!"
With that, every member of the warhost screamed out their own battlecry; only a few that I heard were "WOLVES FOR THE WOLF GOD, WOLVES FOR THE WOLF THRONE!", "METAL BAWKSES!", and, strangest of all, "CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!". However, after a few seconds, all these shouts were replaced with a single, simultaneous battlecry:
"DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA! 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO!" Upon shouting this, the entire army charged down the hill, guns blazing." - extract from the report of Colonel Montague, Cadian 12th, on the "Gugalle Incident".
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 02:59:15
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
|
Grey Slayers would be awesome. And Blood Claws are definitely not worth the same points as Grey Hunters - if anything, Grey Hunters should be 1-3 points more expensive.
As for the Nids, they don't need any more Troops, it's a strange day when I don't max out my Troops and Elites selections. If anything, some of our Troops choices could do with slight discounts (Hormagaunt and Genestealer upgrades) or better rules (Ripper Swarms).
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 06:49:54
Subject: Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
|
derjager7 wrote:Blood Claws are, in my opinion, not worth the same as Grey Hunters. Yes, they have furious charge, but to me, i only use them when i want to troll with Lukas. Grey Hunters simply having better stats should be worth more than BC, plus they have a boltgun, making them that much more effective. you'd have to drop point costs for blood claws at least 3-4 for me to want to use them.
Or, you know, increase the cost of the most undercosted troop in the game?
As a Black Templar, I'd love to have more than one troop choice...
|
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 01:38:30
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Lurking Gaunt
|
I think every army should get more troops, different types and different levels. Also be cool if it was percentage based so that if you take enough regular troops you can start getting into more elite troops.
Also not just split into assault or shooty, but simply more variations of purpose or strengths.
jumping hormagaunts that can assault over terrain with no penalties or gain an advantage but are crazy fragile.
Space marines that fire at assaulting units first.
Orks that could stampead and if they killed a unit they could assault another in the same turn.
That kind of stuff, it could be simple upgrades or bonuses you can take for a unit that. Such as the marine option if the entire squad has only bolters they may shoot once if being assaulted. Bring more tactics into a game i think.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 01:43:44
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Hardened Veteran Guardsman
|
I'd like a dedicated assault guardsman unit, nothing fancy just a swap the lasgun for a pistol and ccw.
I don't even want the jump pack ones from rogue trader or EPIC.
It's sad when a bunch of psykers can out fight a unit of vets...
|
far too many points and still painting...
74th @ Caledonian Uprising 2011
104th @ Caledonian Uprising 2014 (and STILL best General in Pure Codex:IG) |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 02:26:02
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Roarin' Runtherd
|
Madboyz
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 02:27:11
Subject: Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Wicked Canoptek Wraith
|
Ya Guardsmen CC meatshields!
However, think of the Yarrick, and all the other buffs. How would you like to face 80 S4 attacks + 10 PW ?
|
Ya, I play Crons, what about it?
Also, they are just shiny space zombies with guns.
6700 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 03:19:27
Subject: Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
The oceans of the world
|
Tau FW with jetpacks. So they stay out of cc.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 03:59:07
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Screaming Shining Spear
Pittsburgh, PA
|
Take Guardians out of troops, or give them something that makes them useable and not horde-ish. Fluffwise, Guardians are only ever put in the field as a last resort, you shouldn't be able to spam them.
Throw Wraithguard into troops regularly, instead of that "only as a 10 man squad" rule.
Phoenix Lords should definitely make at least one squad of their Aspect scoring.
And I disagree about Marines having more troop types. Yeah, it sucks gamewise to have such limited options, but in the fluff that's exactly how it is. In case you couldn't tell, I'm a big fan of fluff influencing gameplay.
|
Eldar shenanigans are the best shenanigans!
DQ:90S++G+M--B+IPw40k09#+D++A++/areWD-R++T(T)DM+ |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 04:21:36
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Calculating Commissar
|
Tau Human Auxileries and Rough Riders.
A man can dream...
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 06:38:41
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
Sterling, VA
|
CSM need their hordes again. Bring back the cultist mobs.
Admittedly the number of troops choices are high but they are all in power armor(other than the generic lesser demons). CSM is really the major general chaos codex and yet it mainly reflects just the space marine part of Caos. I know it's in the name, but the GK codex is really the Inquisition codex, the codex names are just names.
Oh, and any of the demon squads should still be legit troop choice within a CSM army instead of non specific greater and lesser demons.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 14:06:58
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
|
Go back to the 3rd ed organisation for CSM troops, then bring back the good lesser daemons, add in cultists and Operatives for the AL, and give something in the Chaos army a sniper rifle!
|
Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 15:09:30
Subject: Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Trazyn's Museum Curator
|
Cyber zombies for the necrons. Think husks from Mass Effect...but necron-y.
Or just skittarri. That could work as well.
|
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 17:10:27
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Deadly Dire Avenger
Washington, DC area
|
MandalorynOranj wrote:
Phoenix Lords should definitely make at least one squad of their Aspect scoring.
Yes, this. Or maybe make them troops, which would achieve the same result. It makes sense fluff-wise too. If Fuegan was leading an army, or at least attached to one, you can bet the Craftworld's Fire Dragon shrines would go all out.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/03/01 17:11:53
http://beltway-gamers.com For those in the DC/MD area who are looking for a solid gaming club.
DS:80S+G+M--B+I+Pw40k97+ID++A+/e/mR+++T(S)DM+
>6500
6th Ed Eldar - 4/2/5
"The warhost on the hill was one of the most bizzare sights I had ever seen on a battlefield... Xenos, daemons and humans collected together in units together, gripping dice and paintbrushes; Orks, humans and creatures for which I had no name, clad in ancient armour and clothing; steam-powered walkers with antique-armoured assistants; and many bizarre war-machines, many of which had no purpose that I understood.
An Eldar, bizarrely dressed in a customised suit of power armour and standing on a shield borne by two servants, was carried forth out of the crowd. Raising his Daemon weapon, he shouted three abrupt words:
"Thin! YOUR! PAINTS!"
With that, every member of the warhost screamed out their own battlecry; only a few that I heard were "WOLVES FOR THE WOLF GOD, WOLVES FOR THE WOLF THRONE!", "METAL BAWKSES!", and, strangest of all, "CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!". However, after a few seconds, all these shouts were replaced with a single, simultaneous battlecry:
"DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA! 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO!" Upon shouting this, the entire army charged down the hill, guns blazing." - extract from the report of Colonel Montague, Cadian 12th, on the "Gugalle Incident".
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/02 08:37:19
Subject: Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
|
 |
Been Around the Block
|
would you try Imperial Guardsmen with variants of Ironman Suits because they can described as "Canned Meat for the Meat Grinder"
|
it take workarounds to make a crossover between Warhammer 40k and Digimon, Teen Titans, Pokemon, Kingdom Hearts, Happy Tree Friends, Mario, Sonic, and MLP:FIM works |
|
|
 |
 |
|
|