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With Age of Sigmar brings rules where the players have to "act out" the rule, besides it being patronizing and insulting its a pretty stupid mechanic to introduce that doesn't help the image nor the perceptions of the feelings GW has towards its customers. After going through it and seeing the mushroom cloud over in fantasy land I cant help but wonder if GW would do such a thing to 40k? Would GW full Nintendo 40k into the stripped down, bumpers installed, kid friendly game?

Dancing and buffoonery for extra rules, yay or nay?

It's a fething joke.

I want my exterminatus, and I want it horrifying.
Turning 40k into kid-friendly mode will probably kill GW.

Unless they go all pokemon with everything. Aim it at 6-year-olds. Pretty Marine plushies.

I think I'd first die on the inside to know that other people will only know the 40k universe as a zany kids-only boardgame.

Then I'd make a revivalist cult of the Grim Darkness of the far future.

I can't say.
You can't say.

As far as I am concerned, not even GW can say.

Do they still have game designers or are the rules for their games written by sales?

I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish with AoS.

The prices aren't something kids can likely afford.
The rules are insane for people who won't pay top $$$ for what could be called gakposting.

I don't think it will happen, but if you'd asked me last year I'd have said the same about AoS.

I'm getting strong Rogue Trader vibes from Age of Sigmar, actually. Which is not necessarily a good thing.

Even as an Ork player, I would never shout "WAAAGH!!!" for extra rerolls.

Ah, so we get some LARP with our tabletop as a possibility.
Grim-dark switching to grim-dork.
Gamers can be looked on as freaks enough without this.

Next we will have to all line-dance every time "Lord Emperor" is mentioned.

Did I say this is goofy and not the behavior of a guy in his mid 40's? Not doing it, no sir.

THere's a nice thread on this already:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/654969.page

We hardly need to talk about it in 40k as well.

 Jimsolo wrote:
I don't think it will happen, but if you'd asked me last year d gave said the same about AoS.

Same with D being in standard 40k, or fantasy being on round bases. At this point GW will do anything to make itself look profitable.

I just find it funny that after the year of end times books that are now paperweights, the nintendo-ing of the game, the retiring of most of the plastics (the free rules are a filler and all those models are gone forever) and now dancing for rules that people still bend over for this. I cant say I have much respect for GW nor anyone that would give up their dignity or self respect for rules. We are all a whacky bunch in this hobby and doing that sort of stuff is usually funny, but when forced and given a reward? Nah cant say I'm interested in dancing for nickels.

Plus with rules like the medusa trying to make eye contact? Where is the limit on how long a dice roll takes?

To be fair, I like Konrad von Carstein's rule. If you talk to him, you get to re-roll 1s, if he talks back, you can re-roll everything.

Although even GW probably isn't stupid enough to neuter 40k, not with the success of FW's 30k line.

 pretre wrote:
THere's a nice thread on this already:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/654969.page

We hardly need to talk about it in 40k as well.

You're not a moderator, pretre, stop pretending to be one

 Melissia wrote:
Even as an Ork player, I would never shout "WAAAGH!!!" for extra rerolls.

And even the people that do it now are just doing it for fun get weird glances and the usual "lol someone is a little too into it". The second there is a reward system for that it strikes of images of entire stores being circus acts. How does that look to anyone trying to get into the game? Or to parents when you have people shouting and telling them to play staring contests or to kneel?




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 -Shrike- wrote:
To be fair, I like Konrad von Carstein's rule. If you talk to him, you get to re-roll 1s, if he talks back, you can re-roll everything.

Although even GW probably isn't stupid enough to neuter 40k, not with the success of FW's 30k line.

To me that's just weird. I curse out my models for failing Happy Gilmore style from time to time but Im uncomfortable with the idea of a ruleset forcing me to do it for gain.

And really what would it be for 40k? Eating a sandwhich while playing Nids gets your rerolls in 18"? C'mon.


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 Talizvar wrote:
Ah, so we get some LARP with our tabletop as a possibility.
Grim-dark switching to grim-dork.
Gamers can be looked on as freaks enough without this.

Next we will have to all line-dance every time "Lord Emperor" is mentioned.

Did I say this is goofy and not the behavior of a guy in his mid 40's? Not doing it, no sir.

Exactly, picture the stereotypical nerd bro that we all know at least one of shouting "DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR" to get a reroll, in front of some parents who just wandered into the store.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Even as an Ork player, I would never shout "WAAAGH!!!" for extra rerolls.

And even the people that do it now are just doing it for fun get weird glances and the usual "lol someone is a little too into it". The second there is a reward system for that it strikes of images of entire stores being circus acts. How does that look to anyone trying to get into the game? Or to parents when you have people shouting and telling them to play staring contests or to kneel?

Pretty much. The moment you reward people for specific behaviors it drowns out unbridled passion with aloof self-interest.

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:
THere's a nice thread on this already:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/654969.page

We hardly need to talk about it in 40k as well.

You're not a moderator, pretre, stop pretending to be one

I'm not pretending to be one. If you don't appreciate my post, do what I did and hit the little yellow triangle. I simply post the link for everyone's convenience when/if this thread closes or they see sense.

That page's list of "rules" is so depressingly bad I actually died on the inside a little bit.

This kind of radical change Won't happen as long as 40k still make them loads of $. Also Age of Sigmar might go out like Dreadfleet did and in doing so they will never even attempt something like that with 40K. I don't think they will be able to rise AoS sales any higher than what WFB was.

 A Watcher In The Dark wrote:
This kind of radical change Won't happen as long as 40k still make them loads of $. Also Age of Sigmar might go out like Dreadfleet did and in doing so they will never even attempt something like that with 40K. I don't think they will be able to rise AoS sales any higher than what WFB was.

Never say never.

If GW sees a surge in fantasy revenue from AoS selling well, maybe they could expect the same surge, but on a larger scale, by doing the same to 40k.

If you had told be 5 years ago;
We could purchase terrain with points, I'd have called you silly.
If you had told me flyers would be a part of the core game, I'd have doubted you.
If allies were on ANYONE's radar I'd be a little surprised.

If you had told me 3 years ago;
We would have random objectives every turn, I'd have thought you were being ridiculous.
If you had told me titans and super heavies were totally okay in 1000 point games without opponent's consent, I'd have thought you were crazy.
If Orks and Tau allies, or a wall of super heavies, or straight up unbound lists were on anyone's radar I'd be surprised.

Or 1-2 year turn around on codexes
Or 2 year life span of 6th edition
Or a dozen plus formations, dataslates, supplements, campaign books and codexes released every year.

GW isn't consistent, and cannot be anticipated in any sane way. Next year could bring "Warhammer 40k; Age of the Emperor"! Shout "For da Emprah!" so your marines can reroll bolter wounds!

It's embarrassing for the individual and the community as a whole.

Not necessarily my cup of tea, but honestly the lack of points is a far bigger turn off than "ride an invisible horse for re-rolls". Would imagine that would get old real fast though

Welcome to the future of 40k! Yelling "Blood for the Blood God!" "Dancing like a harlequin" and no structure or depth whatsoever.

Or worse do away with points, cause a grot is equal to a space marine right?

I would cringe even harder if they did and I came across ponymarines. And I play bright pink Eldar.

 -Shrike- wrote:
To be fair, I like Konrad von Carstein's rule. If you talk to him, you get to re-roll 1s, if he talks back, you can re-roll everything.

Although even GW probably isn't stupid enough to neuter 40k, not with the success of FW's 30k line.

Konrad talks to me all the time, whats so special about that.

Haha it handicaps people who are clean shaven! As if GW have the audacity to try and affect their customers appearance.

Am I the only one thar spotted Greaseus Goldtooth's special rule? You can LITERALLY bribe someone to inflict a debuff. That's it, I'm switching to AoS and raking in the dough. I'll have enough for my warlord in not time!

I love the character rules.

 MWHistorian wrote:
Welcome to the future of 40k! Yelling "Blood for the Blood God!" "Dancing like a harlequin" and no structure or depth whatsoever.

Its been years that i shout BftBG when Kharn kills an ennemy character or any other deed that is worth the attention of my patron God...

Another guy always hits his chest wit his fist when he do good rolls, and another yells "Deeeeeeccccappppiiiiittttaiiiioooooooooooonnnnnn" in the purest Brutal legend style when he ID a model...

Maybe we're the Weird bunch, but we don't really see whats wrong with this, its a game after all.

Now yeah i understand that it can be a bother for some shy or socially awkward guys, but come on, you allready look like a Dork to other poeple the second you mention wargame with models anyway, a bit more or less can't hurt.

I don't get it. I wouldn't pay premium for a miniature game that has my kid behaving like a jackass, and certainly wouldn't play one myself. It's so lame and unfunny it just baffles my mind. Just who is it aimed for?

@ Slayer la boucher: Personally I can assure you I am not a shy or socially awkward guy, I used to run bar crawls in Newcastle averaging between 150-180 people, and I promise you that no shy or socially awkward person could have been as successful at running them as I was. Now having said that - I would resent GW for forcing me to do such things if I want to play the game 'properly' and with an even chance. I like to play the game in my own way and whilst I do not mind the odd person doing the whole in-character shouting, it is not my style. It would also make it difficult to carry on in converting my girlfriend to the game.
Furthermore, granting people official in game benefits for having a longer beard or moustach is pure sexism, no matter how you dress it up as a laidback jovial approach.