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Seems really odd considering every single Dawn of War game has done this and they're a recurring thing in the lore; for example the Path of the Eldar book.

Obviously with them bringing out the next Dawn of War it got me thinking about why I haven't considered collecting a Craftworld Eldar army. Frankly if they did that and had more of the Aspect Warriors in plastic I probably would have. Then I could get a proper Biel Tan army. As cool as all the Wraith constructs and grav vehicles are the aspect warrior stuff looks really dated and its a general rule that I don't like armies where the core units aren't plastic.

There's female guardsmen but gw never made them bar maybe one or two.

You're telling me this Farseer isn't female? (Bottom left)



Always thought it was, and I even painted one!

Yeah its a guy. You can tell by the chest plate matching the other male elder.

Near flat chest plate. Its male.

They would make a female one more shaped.

My position on the subject (at least partially based on the DoW2 Farseer) is that a lack of boob-plate doesn't mean the model isn't female. If you're worried about it I've seen people build Farseers/Autarchs with boob-plate out of the Howling Banshee Exarch model.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
My position on the subject (at least partially based on the DoW2 Farseer) is that a lack of boob-plate doesn't mean the model isn't female. If you're worried about it I've seen people build Farseers/Autarchs with boob-plate out of the Howling Banshee Exarch model.

No it does. If you look at all other Craftworld and Dark Eldar units. Take Guardians for example who have male and female models. The armor is molded to the shape of the wearer.

Also, Dawn of War 3 Farseer...

https://www.destructoid.com/the-eldar-look-like-a-real-nuisance-in-dawn-of-war-iii-388695.phtml#&gid=388695&pid=4

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah its a guy. You can tell by the chest plate matching the other male elder.

So? Breasts do not stand out behind a chestplate of that size.

I suppose I gave GW too much credit.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah its a guy. You can tell by the chest plate matching the other male elder.

So? Breasts do not stand out behind a chestplate of that size.

I suppose I gave GW too much credit.

See Howling Banshees and female Guardians. They use the sculpted armor to distinguish male and female models who are otherwise physically identical to other elder.

So that Farseer is a male and I'd be kidding myself to convince myself otherwise.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah its a guy. You can tell by the chest plate matching the other male elder.

So? Breasts do not stand out behind a chestplate of that size.

I suppose I gave GW too much credit.

See Howling Banshees and female Guardians. They use the sculpted armor to distinguish male and female models who are otherwise physically identical to other elder.

So that Farseer is a male.

If its female. Its boob plate seems to be the rule.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah its a guy. You can tell by the chest plate matching the other male elder.

So? Breasts do not stand out behind a chestplate of that size.

I suppose I gave GW too much credit.

See Howling Banshees and female Guardians. They use the sculpted armor to distinguish male and female models who are otherwise physically identical to other elder.

So that Farseer is a male and I'd be kidding myself to convince myself otherwise.

I still consider mine female, just sensible enough to wear a breastplate without shaped-on breasts then. ^^

I thought it looked quite feminine due to arm/torso-leg proportions and the like, but then I suppose nuance is not as 'cool' as smashing things in your face from 40yd away.

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 Totalwar1402 wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yeah its a guy. You can tell by the chest plate matching the other male elder.

So? Breasts do not stand out behind a chestplate of that size.

I suppose I gave GW too much credit.

See Howling Banshees and female Guardians. They use the sculpted armor to distinguish male and female models who are otherwise physically identical to other elder.

So that Farseer is a male and I'd be kidding myself to convince myself otherwise.

I still consider mine female, just sensible enough to wear a breastplate without shaped-on breasts then. ^^

I thought it looked quite feminine due to arm/torso-leg proportions and the like, but then I suppose nuance is not as 'cool' as smashing things in your face from 40yd away.

I was speaking of comparisons with, say, the warlock models from the same kit, or my guardians, rather than comparisons with human models. I am aware that Eldar are lightly built in general.

There is also no need for venom.

Let's be fair here, not all farseers were born equal in the breastplate department... - Farseer Idranel

Yeah I feel like every one of those models could be female. . .

I guess the title of this thread could be "Why hasn't GW made a Farseer model with oversized bewbs?"

To which I could answer: "Taste?"

jhe90 wrote:Near flat chest plate. Its male.

They would make a female one more shaped.

Boob armour? Really? Damn, I guess then next time my wife watches Game of Thrones, it will be easier for me to see who the female knight is because she will have boob armour.

I'm pretty sure nobody wants to have Brienne of Tarth as the normal shape of a woman.


My guess is Farseers need reason and accountability.

To me, most of the existing Farseers could be passed off as female.

Unless one is truly outrageously well endowed, you probably couldn't tell gender either way beneath all those robes and armor.

On things like Guardians, they have extremely exaggerated chests, essentially they modeled the chest armor to look like a textured well endowed bare chest, not what actual female armor would look like.

This is what a female in combat kit looks like. Aside from the face, you couldn't tell what gender they were beneath fatigues, body armor, kit, etc, there's no massive boobie armor.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I'm pretty sure nobody wants to have Brienne of Tarth as the normal shape of a woman.


My guess is Farseers need reason and accountability.

Wow.

Really?

The biggest issue with boobplate is not even that it looks dumb, it's that it makes people think that it is what armour on women actually is supposed to look like.

Aye, This Is a pic of body armor designed for women. It's got changes to adopt to different female shoulder positions and body build, but doesn't have big booby shells. If you blanked out the face, most people probably couldn't tell the gender either way.

*activate gakky internet troll*

But OP, what are you asking for? them to objectify models by making unrealistic armor that conforms to boobs?

But thats sexist you need their breast plates to be flat just like the males for equality.

With the only way you are able to tell they are different from the men are by their names.....

Body armour, particularly "soft" body armour is indeed cut for women, but it's something that under a bunch of combat garb you would rarely notice. Only a handful of my fellow agents who were female had noticeable chests under even simple Level IIIA stuff.

It's an odd paradox where people (often ladies) complain about the lack of female models, when most heavy combat troops in modern/sci-fi gaming could easily be both. As a result we get things like sisters of battle and huge boob armour etc. Then, when this occurs we get people complaining about said boob armour and we repeat the cycle.

My take on it? Throw a female Eldar head on there and be done with it if you want evidence of femalitude.

Lets be honest though, can you really tell female and male eldar apart :^}

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Lets be honest though, can you really tell female and male eldar apart :^}

Yes, quite easily.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Lets be honest though, can you really tell female and male eldar apart :^}

Yes, quite easily.

One has boob armour and the other doesn't!

 Elbows wrote:
It's an odd paradox where people (often ladies) complain about the lack of female models, when most heavy combat troops in modern/sci-fi gaming could easily be both. As a result we get things like sisters of battle and huge boob armour etc.

There is something called nuance. There is a whole world in between Space Marine body shape and male Eldar body shape, but we pretty much only get 2d armour on supermodel females as our female models.

There is a whole world of physical differences between the genders. Leg-torso ratios, arm-leg ratios, shoulder/waist/hip ratios, heads, size of hands and feet... All of these, while lessened by armour, are still existent.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Lets be honest though, can you really tell female and male eldar apart :^}

Yes, quite easily.

Depends. According to Xenology the Eldar don't have any body fat, if we accept that we might conclude that the boobplate is ceremonial (Howling Banshees are taking on the image of Morai-Heg, for instance, and as such have boobplate whether the Eldar in the armour is male or female).

I think someone has been spending too much time on the Kingdom Death website.

Davor wrote:
I think someone has been spending too much time on the Kingdom Death website.

Or too much time reading Xenology. One of the two.