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This is my first list ever and I am looking at starting the ghosties. What do you guys think!


2 x cairn wraiths (1 leader) 120

3 x spirit hosts 120pts

3 x spirit hosts 120pts

3 x spirit hosts 120pts

5 x hex wraiths 160pts

5 x hex wraiths 160pts

1 x Mourngul 400pts

1x Mourngul - 400pts

1x Mourngul - 400pts

2000 points

3 mournguls will smash most armies in the game unless you're facing a top list with a very smart general. Looks very cool on the table. may be dull to play but the results will be good I'd expect.

raoiley wrote:
3 mournguls will smash most armies in the game unless you're facing a top list with a very smart general. Looks very cool on the table. may be dull to play but the results will be good I'd expect.

I was thinking about fielding all three, not even attempt to summon.

The entire tactica involves sudden death-ing one unit of his to win, specifically. (This requires them to have 8 models more than me.) Then I send the entire army, moving 12" ignoring terrain, with anti rending goodness, to h(a)unt the enemy's unit. I figured 3 mournguls will end pretty much anything, and having them pick the unit is just plain terrifying. That was the theme behind the army. BE SCAARRRRYYYYY..... haha from a tactics perspective, it immediately puts them on the defensive.

to be fair, I don't think anyone is really playing sudden death. matched play doesn't use those rules that I've seen but still, 3 mournguls is very tough to deal with.


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I'd also say if you're gonna run them, maybe find a way to convert and do something cool to the models. people are much more forgiving of cheese if it looks good and has some flavour. three primed black mournguls is pretty full. have some fun with it!

raoiley wrote:
to be fair, I don't think anyone is really playing sudden death. matched play doesn't use those rules that I've seen but still, 3 mournguls is very tough to deal with.


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I'd also say if you're gonna run them, maybe find a way to convert and do something cool to the models. people are much more forgiving of cheese if it looks good and has some flavour. three primed black mournguls is pretty full. have some fun with it!

Agree, i was going for as low model count as possible. Since ghosties are easily converted I can use them for daemons in 40k if I wanted!

I was going to run the deceiver and 2x nightbringer from necrons as my banshee and 2x Carin wraiths.

The Mournguls are going to be 2x FW and one converted.

I hope sudden death is in comp play in the future, as it is a core tactic for this theme. The idea is that one individual on the enemies side is "cursed" and must suffer the wrath of the ghosties.

 xSoulgrinderx wrote:
I was going to run the deceiver and 2x nightbringer from necrons as my banshee and 2x Carin wraiths.

You're looking at a considerable size difference between the C'tan and the Tomb Banshee and Cairn Wraiths.

 Ghaz wrote:

 xSoulgrinderx wrote:
I was going to run the deceiver and 2x nightbringer from necrons as my banshee and 2x Carin wraiths.

You're looking at a considerable size difference between the C'tan and the Tomb Banshee and Cairn Wraiths.

They seemed small, so I thought the ctan fit better

I wouldn't hold your breathe on the sudden death lol

 xSoulgrinderx wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 xSoulgrinderx wrote:
I was going to run the deceiver and 2x nightbringer from necrons as my banshee and 2x Carin wraiths.

You're looking at a considerable size difference between the C'tan and the Tomb Banshee and Cairn Wraiths.

They seemed small, so I thought the ctan fit better

They are small. The C'tan are considerably larger than the Tomb Banshee and Cairn Wraiths. For example, the C'tan uses a 40mm base while the Banshee and Wraith come on 20mm bases.

I agree. But I felt that for "heroes" the car in and banshee were too small

Would a mortis engine benefit this list at all?

 quickfuze wrote:
Would a mortis engine benefit this list at all?

No, youre going to suggest the Start collecting but yeah, theyre not nighthaunt

Just to make sure, the cairn wraiths are there for the leader requirement (and I suppose one gets an item) but will not be the general, correct? Because the general should be one of the mournguls with red fury.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just to make sure, the cairn wraiths are there for the leader requirement (and I suppose one gets an item) but will not be the general, correct? Because the general should be one of the mournguls with red fury.

More i was thinking that the Mortis tends to support "Monster Mash" lists and i thought maybe with three mournghal.

 quickfuze wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just to make sure, the cairn wraiths are there for the leader requirement (and I suppose one gets an item) but will not be the general, correct? Because the general should be one of the mournguls with red fury.

More i was thinking that the Mortis tends to support "Monster Mash" lists and i thought maybe with three mournghal.

Mortis.engine would break nighthaunt allegiance, meaning spirit hosts would no longer be battleline. He would have to include zombies, skeletons, or ghouls.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just to make sure, the cairn wraiths are there for the leader requirement (and I suppose one gets an item) but will not be the general, correct? Because the general should be one of the mournguls with red fury.

Yes that is correct. The Sword.of Unholy.power would allow me to summon a mourngul automatically. But it lacks seriously durability as my leader compared to a mourngul. It's a thought, but then I can get away with just deploying all 3

Looks very solid but I think it won't hold up to scenarios quite often. Most scenarios rely on model count or outright having more than 5. I can see the enemy, if it has half a brain, will target the other two fifths your army which form 90% of your models. Sure, you've got 3 mournghuls but you are very low model count and they are not beastclaw tier in terms of resilience (barring the mournguls).

I've found that the philosophy of 'dead enemies don't hold objectives' holds up pretty well. I ran a 3-mourngul list previously and I never had trouble taking objectives. Some scenarios also rely on no enemies being I range to capture an objective, which a list like this is exceedingly good at. Hexwraiths ability to move through enemies means they will need to leave units behind to hold backfield objectives. Overall I don't foresee objectives being nearly as big an issue as a lack of shooting.

I plan to ignore most objective games and go for sudden death vicores. For those I cant, I will start by hunting down specific units still throwing everyone at one unit, as if it were sudden death obj anyways. Regardless it should throw a wrench into any plan hatched

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just to make sure, the cairn wraiths are there for the leader requirement (and I suppose one gets an item) but will not be the general, correct? Because the general should be one of the mournguls with red fury.

What is the red fury?

 xSoulgrinderx wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just to make sure, the cairn wraiths are there for the leader requirement (and I suppose one gets an item) but will not be the general, correct? Because the general should be one of the mournguls with red fury.

What is the red fury?

Its a Death Command Trait (pg. 164 of the General's Handbook).