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Have darklight weapons cropped up before in the HH game? The name/type doesn't ring a bell.

That Archmagos Prime does look like he'll make a good alt-Dominus, too, depending on the base size.

 Dysartes wrote:
Have darklight weapons cropped up before in the HH game? The name/type doesn't ring a bell.

That Archmagos Prime does look like he'll make a good alt-Dominus, too, depending on the base size.

The resin Castellan with the same weapon is listed as ‘Darkfire cannon’ on the store, so maybe a mistake in the preview article.

Kind of happy to see Mechanicum in plastic, except I already have 18 Thallax, 3 Castallex and a Thanatar all in resin alongside a few other bits and pieces!

What where those machines that where the bodyguard of Perturabo, the lord of iron??

Iron Circle, his personal Domitar robots.

 Dysartes wrote:
Have darklight weapons cropped up before in the HH game? The name/type doesn't ring a bell.

That Archmagos Prime does look like he'll make a good alt-Dominus, too, depending on the base size.

Not sure of the exact name, but they first appeared in HH book 1 at the very beginning as an option for Thallaxii units. The models were a few years later.

Yea this is all looking great

Feels like HH sold really well despite the post-launch doldrums and got fast tracked in a big way.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yea this is all looking great

Feels like HH sold really well despite the post-launch doldrums and got fast tracked in a big way.

Here's hoping it's not done too well. I'd hate GW to put it on the 3 year edition churn cycle in between 40k and AoS.

Hopefully we’ll see more stuff ported over to plastic.

I think Legion specific units are most likely to remain in resin for the foreseeable, which I can live with. But I do hope to see Super Heavies cross the Rubicon Plasticarus soon.

Ok, I think that we can assume (yes, I'm well aware of what we do when we do that) what future HH releases will be based on this preview.

1: Thanatar Calix. It's just a weapons change from the base kit. Duh

2: Plastic Sabres and either a full or conversion kit for Sicaran Arcus and Punishers based on LI.

3: Karacnos Assault Tank. We're getting the Krios, the baseplate, so, this seems a simple adjustment.

Just spitballing. Might be wrong. But it all seems likely. Feel free to yell at me if you disagree.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Ok, I think that we can assume (yes, I'm well aware of what we do when we do that) what future HH releases will be based on this preview.

1: Thanatar Calix. It's just a weapons change from the base kit. Duh

2: Plastic Sabres and either a full or conversion kit for Sicaran Arcus and Punishers based on LI.

3: Karacnos Assault Tank. We're getting the Krios, the baseplate, so, this seems a simple adjustment.

Just spitballing. Might be wrong. But it all seems likely. Feel free to yell at me if you disagree.

Looking at what SA got in terms of kit sizes, the Triaros is pretty much the Dracosan and the Karacnos would be its Malcador. In the same way the two Leman Russ versions could be the parallel to two Thanatar versions. Then they got the basic Lasrifle section (Tech Thralls), an HQ choice with the Command section (Archmagos), the twin Hermes sentinel kit (twin Callax kit) and an elite infantry in Velatarii (Thallax). This would cover everything revealed for now.
In addition SA also got the Aethon sentinel as a medium size model (Domitar?), and the Medusa/Basilisk in a single kit with just a gun swap (two Krios versions?)

I doubt any of the other characters or the really big guns will go plastic for now so in addition to the above we also have Myrmidons, Ursarax, Scyllax and Vorax who could go plastic. I do think they will get more than SA got but I also doubt we'll see all four of these this time. Maybe either Myrmidons or Scyllax for one more "human" unit to break up all the robots?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Ok, I think that we can assume (yes, I'm well aware of what we do when we do that) what future HH releases will be based on this preview.

1: Thanatar Calix. It's just a weapons change from the base kit. Duh

2: Plastic Sabres and either a full or conversion kit for Sicaran Arcus and Punishers based on LI.

3: Karacnos Assault Tank. We're getting the Krios, the baseplate, so, this seems a simple adjustment.

Just spitballing. Might be wrong. But it all seems likely. Feel free to yell at me if you disagree.

All safe bets. Also the other Deredeo loadout. Javelins and Rapiers in the same LI boat as Sabres. And I'd bet the Solar and Mechanicum will stay in step with Astartes for new releases going forward, maybe even a bit faster.

Battlegroup is probably a bit shrinkflated in regards to points again, but at least it will cost more

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Ok, I think that we can assume (yes, I'm well aware of what we do when we do that) what future HH releases will be based on this preview.

1: Thanatar Calix. It's just a weapons change from the base kit. Duh

2: Plastic Sabres and either a full or conversion kit for Sicaran Arcus and Punishers based on LI.

3: Karacnos Assault Tank. We're getting the Krios, the baseplate, so, this seems a simple adjustment.

Just spitballing. Might be wrong. But it all seems likely. Feel free to yell at me if you disagree.

Ursarax seems like a no-brainer since they made the Thanatar already.

I would also suspect the Krios to move over, assuming they can splice the tracks for it like they did for the other HH tank kits.

And I am crossing my fingers for Mymidons. One kit that covers Secutors and Destructors.

I was just putting together some tiny Spartans and realised there’s another missing HH sprue/kit; the Laser Destroyer sponsons for the Spartan. We even know what it should look like from the mini Spartan kit so where are they GW?

Yesh. I like these so much more than the 40k AdMech stuff. its like night and day.

All the plastic mechanicum stuff looks great, looks like I'm starting a new army. Say a prayer for my wallet.

BrookM wrote:Those thralls are amazing, proper tech zombies!

Id like to second this opinion on the tech-thralls.
Also the magos is great too, very mantis-like.

Haighus wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Have darklight weapons cropped up before in the HH game? The name/type doesn't ring a bell.

That Archmagos Prime does look like he'll make a good alt-Dominus, too, depending on the base size.

Not sure of the exact name, but they first appeared in HH book 1 at the very beginning as an option for Thallaxii units. The models were a few years later.

Brain fog got to you?
The book 1 thallax entry allowed upgrading to photon thrusters but the weapon rules entry was for "photon thruster cannons" which then referred to them as photon thrusters again..
Essentially FW were going to put castellax into book 1 but backed out of it; putting them in book 2 and someone doing the editing got a little confused. The castellax could then take a "darkfire cannon" in Book 2: Massacre.

Gadzilla666 wrote:
2: Plastic Sabres and either a full or conversion kit for Sicaran Arcus and Punishers based on LI.

For a sec there my brain was wondering why we need the Sabre Heavy Weapons Platform brought back from OOP-land

Scottywan82 wrote:

Ursarax seems like a no-brainer since they made the Thallax already.

Fixed that for you..
Not liking the extra bulk on the thallax tbh. And something has changed about the Castellax too i just dont know them as well as i know my Thallax.

 SirDonlad wrote:

Not liking the extra bulk on the thallax tbh. And something has changed about the Castellax too i just dont know them as well as i know my Thallax.

Personally I like the bit of extra bulk. Makes them a bit more imposing and less fragile as war machines and models. Thallax looks like the legs are more solid and armor plates are a bit thicker, plus shoulders have grenade launchers now. Castellax has slightly more solid legs and arms, and the ammo box is much larger and hangs past the hips.

The little nodes or whatever they are on the Thallax shoulders is what irks me. It makes them look kind of busy. The resin models didn't have that detail on them. Myrmidions would be super cool in plastic, hopefully they get around to those at some point.

 Gert wrote:
Iron Circle, his personal Domitar robots.

Were they based on Thallax or Thanatar frames?

Iron circle is a customisation of the Domitar chassis.

I thought Thallax were already pretty bulky - they are jetpack infantry...

No, really; they were pretty bulky compared to an astartes..

Well I think the new Mechanicus models are superb. I'm glad that I passed on most of the SA range (aside from a couple of Malcadors for my Militia), because I will have to get these models. The Triaros is probably the best looking HH vehicle so far.

 Snord wrote:
Well I think the new Mechanicus models are superb. I'm glad that I passed on most of the SA range (aside from a couple of Malcadors for my Militia), because I will have to get these models. The Triaros is probably the best looking HH vehicle so far.

The Krios are probably going to appear, and the Karaknos is unfortunately almost a given based on the Triarios, but I am hoping for the Macrocarid to show up in plastic. I have one before they discontinued it, but would love to see more, and with weapon options.

 Thargrim wrote:
The little nodes or whatever they are on the Thallax shoulders is what irks me. It makes them look kind of busy. The resin models didn't have that detail on them. Myrmidions would be super cool in plastic, hopefully they get around to those at some point.

The things on the shoulders look like you can probably leave them off, but obvs won’t know for sure until we see the sprues.

Love plastic Mechanicus... but I can't stand the HH ruleset so I'll pass.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

The Krios are probably going to appear, and the Karaknos is unfortunately almost a given based on the Triarios, but I am hoping for the Macrocarid to show up in plastic. I have one before they discontinued it, but would love to see more, and with weapon options.

The Macrocarid is a weird one since it disappeared so fast again. I think it was 2016 release and 2019 discontinued?
As far as I remember what I read online was that the mold broke. Since at that time there would have been plans for HH already I could see them just going no need to make a new one, we'll just bring it back in plastic in a few years anyway and not enough people will buy it in resin in the meantime to make a resin mold worth it.
Also it would kinda fill the "new" slot, like the Aethon and Hermes did for SA without actually needing that much work since they already had the design

Why the 30k Mechanicus looks better than the 40k version of their army lmao

lord_blackfang wrote:

Spoiler:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Ok, I think that we can assume (yes, I'm well aware of what we do when we do that) what future HH releases will be based on this preview.

1: Thanatar Calix. It's just a weapons change from the base kit. Duh

2: Plastic Sabres and either a full or conversion kit for Sicaran Arcus and Punishers based on LI.

3: Karacnos Assault Tank. We're getting the Krios, the baseplate, so, this seems a simple adjustment.

Just spitballing. Might be wrong. But it all seems likely. Feel free to yell at me if you disagree.

All safe bets. Also the other Deredeo loadout. Javelins and Rapiers in the same LI boat as Sabres. And I'd bet the Solar and Mechanicum will stay in step with Astartes for new releases going forward, maybe even a bit faster.

Battlegroup is probably a bit shrinkflated in regards to points again, but at least it will cost more

Yes, hopefully. The more plastic, the better.

Scottywan82 wrote:

Spoiler:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Ok, I think that we can assume (yes, I'm well aware of what we do when we do that) what future HH releases will be based on this preview.

1: Thanatar Calix. It's just a weapons change from the base kit. Duh

2: Plastic Sabres and either a full or conversion kit for Sicaran Arcus and Punishers based on LI.

3: Karacnos Assault Tank. We're getting the Krios, the baseplate, so, this seems a simple adjustment.

Just spitballing. Might be wrong. But it all seems likely. Feel free to yell at me if you disagree.

Ursarax seems like a no-brainer since they made the Thanatar already.

I would also suspect the Krios to move over, assuming they can splice the tracks for it like they did for the other HH tank kits.

And I am crossing my fingers for Mymidons. One kit that covers Secutors and Destructors.

Yeah, plastic Myrmidons are the wish that I didn't dare voice. I want them. NOW.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

Yeah, plastic Myrmidons are the wish that I didn't dare voice. I want them. NOW.

Same. I need them so much. I just want all the tech priests, honestly. Auxilia, Arcuitor Magisterium, Myrmidons... Just gimme. Plastic Abeyant especially.

Plastic Myrmidons not tied to a set loadout would be ideal