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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Plastic Myrmidons not tied to a set loadout would be ideal

Yeah, it would need to have a lot of weapojn options in there. Though they would probably just sell weapon pack separately.

Mate, I’d take that over No Options For You, Smelly, as we have right now.

Well I say “We”. I’m not actually a Mechanicum player, but the Myrmidons not having any kit options are part of the reason for that!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mate, I’d take that over No Options For You, Smelly, as we have right now.

Well I say “We”. I’m not actually a Mechanicum player, but the Myrmidons not having any kit options are part of the reason for that!

Agreed. Currently it's "you get a grab bag, at horrendous prices". Maybe fix that, gw?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mate, I’d take that over No Options For You, Smelly, as we have right now.

Well I say “We”. I’m not actually a Mechanicum player, but the Myrmidons not having any kit options are part of the reason for that!

Agreed. Currently it's "you get a grab bag, at horrendous prices". Maybe fix that, gw?

You know full well how GW like to fix that, say hello to "Myrmidons beam weapon" or whatever as their only weapon option.

Not in Heresy, on account their rules are already published.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not in Heresy, on account their rules are already published.

And yet they seem to have made the Primus Magos... the single most adaptable HQ... into a mono equipped model....

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not in Heresy, on account their rules are already published.

They are, but they're also showing Thallax as a 6 model unit with 3 heavies, which aren't currently allowed(it's 1 in 3). If the things on the shoulder are new options, then it's possible the list gets a redux.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not in Heresy, on account their rules are already published.

And yet they seem to have made the Primus Magos... the single most adaptable HQ... into a mono equipped model....

They also have plastic SM Praetors with a handful of specific loadouts, but still plenty of options in the rules.

I think with the Myrmidons there are options:
1. massive box for 3 dudes that costs a lot for a loads of extra weapons
2. normal sized box missing options
3. the errata and normalise the loadouts

For those of us unfamiliar with the Mechanicus army list, just how wide a range of loadouts are we talking for the Myrmidons?

Secutors have an axe and 2 maxima bolters base. Both their bolters can be exchanged for 1 volkite charger, graviton gun, irad-cleanser, or phased plasma fusil.

Destructors have a shock charger and a volkite culverin base. The culverin can be exchanged for a conversion beamer, graviton imploder, darkfire cannon or irradiation engine.

I could see a world where each unit has its own kit with 3, the base options, and 1 of each upgrade option, like the 40k Havoc squad.

 Rihgu wrote:
Secutors have an axe and 2 maxima bolters base. Both their bolters can be exchanged for 1 volkite charger, graviton gun, irad-cleanser, or phased plasma fusil.

Destructors have a shock charger and a volkite culverin base. The culverin can be exchanged for a conversion beamer, graviton imploder, darkfire cannon or irradiation engine.

I could see a world where each unit has its own kit with 3, the base options, and 1 of each upgrade option, like the 40k Havoc squad.

That's a fair take, I hadn't considered separating them out as 2 kits as it seemed incredibly wasteful, so likely the correct way forward.

Three to a box would make sense, as would splitting the boxes by unit.

I suspect for each unit we'd see a sprue A with two bodies and a sprue B with one, with the weapon upgrades split between the two sprues.

I think it'll be done more like the other Heresy releases: Bodies on a sprue with each box coming with a different weapon sprue.

That's certainly possible - I'll hold my hands up as having not done any size research on this unit, so I have no clue how feasible three to a sprue actually is.

 Dysartes wrote:
That's certainly possible - I'll hold my hands up as having not done any size research on this unit, so I have no clue how feasible three to a sprue actually is.

 Dysartes wrote:
That's certainly possible - I'll hold my hands up as having not done any size research on this unit, so I have no clue how feasible three to a sprue actually is.

They are rather large models, especially with the mechadendrites extended. Depending on how they are cut, you can easily fit three to a standard sprue if you move the arms, weapons and other fiddly bits to a weapons sprue.

I'm digging the new minis, but I truly WANT myrms in plastic. Along with a plastic macrocarid they would give my existing mechanicum a boost in the beefcake department.

Myrmidons and Charonite Ogryn could be a fun “bruiser” themed release window. Perhaps with the Ursarax, who give the warmest “whoops you’ve turned to ash” hugs in the Galaxy.

The Velatarii are also set up with bodies all on one sprue and the Axes/Volkites on another which makes it very likely we'll get another kit in the future with the body sprue and a Rotor Cannon/Flamer sprue.
Wouldn't surprise me at all of Myrmidons go the same way

Dudeface wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mate, I’d take that over No Options For You, Smelly, as we have right now.

Well I say “We”. I’m not actually a Mechanicum player, but the Myrmidons not having any kit options are part of the reason for that!

Agreed. Currently it's "you get a grab bag, at horrendous prices". Maybe fix that, gw?

You know full well how GW like to fix that, say hello to "Myrmidons beam weapon" or whatever as their only weapon option.

No. As others have already pointed: that isn't the policy for HH.

Dudeface wrote:I think with the Myrmidons there are options:
1. massive box for 3 dudes that costs a lot for a loads of extra weapons
2. normal sized box missing options
3. the errata and normalise the loadouts

#3 just isn't happening. 30k is about full options. Hell, we have entire factions that are almost completely about converting your army (SoS says "hello"). I realize that you're coming from a modern 40k view on things, but that just isn't how it works in 30k. There's actually an entire thread about this dichotomy in the HH sub-forum, if you're interested.

I'd expect a myrmadon body sprue of 3, then seperate weapon sprues for secutors and destructors. Just like how dreadnoughts or veletaris are split up.

JC that's some nice stuff.

Still sad no close combat upgrade kits; the last thing on the road map. I trust they'll do them (they did everything else on that list), so it's just a matter of when.

Hopefully soon.

Maybe the command sprue and the melee upgrades are one and the same? After all it's literally 2 flags and everything else is melee weapons.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Maybe the command sprue and the melee upgrades are one and the same? After all it's literally 2 flags and everything else is melee weapons.

Not a chance.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Maybe the command sprue and the melee upgrades are one and the same? After all it's literally 2 flags and everything else is melee weapons.

Not a chance.

Yeah. I want my LIGHTNING CLAWS! And some thunder hammers would be nice as well.

You'll take your power swords and your visually distinct other power swords and you'll like it - or they'll release more power swords, capeesh?

No One Important wrote:
You'll take your power swords and your visually distinct other power swords and you'll like it - or they'll release more power swords, capeesh?

Nope. Won't like it.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

No One Important wrote:
You'll take your power swords and your visually distinct other power swords and you'll like it - or they'll release more power swords, capeesh?

Nope. Won't like it.

What about if they take multiple small power swords, and strap them to the back of a gauntlet... and release that in a kit?

 Haighus wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

No One Important wrote:
You'll take your power swords and your visually distinct other power swords and you'll like it - or they'll release more power swords, capeesh?

Nope. Won't like it.

What about if they take multiple small power swords, and strap them to the back of a gauntlet... and release that in a kit?

OR, hear me out, We hit gw where it hurts and either consider 3d printing, 3rd parties or get the plasticard and greenstuff back out.
Because at this stage it gets a bit ridicoulus how they treat HH in regards to rules and release maintenance.