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Post by: Ruglud
Ooh, smooth and shiny... Botox did good...
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Post by: jabbakahut
Looked like a mechanical mummy before. You can really tell a difference.
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Post by: Hruotland
Very convincing what you do there. I like this shiny design so much I hope you won't make it rusty in the end, will you? I mean,if the AD doesn't know how to use sandpaper, who else does? To them neglecting maintenance is blasphemy before the eyes of the machine god, and a proper grinding has never done any harm to the young aspirants, eh?
By the way, what happened to the yellow codpiece?
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
 The_Blackadder wrote:Bringing You a Better Warlord Since the Advent of the 21st Century;
In the 2 plus years I have been working on this project one of the items I have been less than enthused about was the wimpy primary weapons stanchions so today I addressed that issue with a beefier stanchion and a re-engineered rotating base.
Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and purchase a 'made' item that fullfills the desired requirements and is compact enough to be practical, for this application anyway.
The Panduit universal couplings are relatively expensive and totally impractical for their intended purpose since they invariably fatigue and crack more readily than comparable metal connections. Still they do have a businesslike appearance for my particular purposes. They swivel 360° and with the new mount assembly I came up with allow the guns to rotate easier with less stress on the shoulder mount.
http://i.imgur.com/8UTe8FC.jpg
I skipped the 3/4 inch mount and went directly to the 1 inch mount doubling the diameter of the stanchion and trebling the mass.
http://i.imgur.com/XIZoBO5.jpg
At last Biceps that would make Hemsworth proud.
Woah! I have missed so much! Talk about a Christmas tree....more like a delivery from Santa on the morning of! This is amazing stuff, and it is fantastic to have so many shots. Your cockpit interior is fantastic, and the use of the photoshopped images (thanks for the in-depth instructions on the application, too) look terrific.
But what impresses me even more is how much of an engineer you are, and how much thought and effort you have put into making this a functional and practical machine. The weapons mounts are a classic example--even your phraseology, considering the stress on the shoulder--shows your care and logic. Amazing, and it is wonderful to see it taking shape in terms of paint too. I totally love the idea of a weathered old "Wardaddy" of a machine, too, with only remnants of the original paint job left. The weathering you are doing is great, and I absolutely love the "Face"--the Imperial Eagle looks amazing, and so do the grills at the bottom.
On other issues: I love the bright red Tech Priests, and the use of yellow (on the hand rails, and also the hazard stripes. The Altar is also great--these spot colors really help with a model of this size, and help draw the eye around it. The detail on the interior (and exterior) is really "popping" now too. I still think some Imperial Knight decals might not go amiss--maybe you can find some online?
Anyway, thanks so much for all the updates, and keep up your spirits and energy!
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Unreasonable Demands: Due to unreasonable demands I have not been able to devote more than a few minutes this past week to applying aluminum to the legs and feet of the Warlord but this afternoon I got a bit done unfortunately I lost the light so I had to rely on the ambient light of my workshop. http://i.imgur.com/39ctT0p.jpg  The flash being too intense and the normal lighting being too muted; the actual is somewhere in between. http://i.imgur.com/FJnPsEr.jpg  The bottom line is I am quite pleased with the outcome but the number of discrete pieces have me floored and I haven't even got to the main torso yet. http://i.imgur.com/GCMoZEP.jpg  Better pictures tomorrow where I only have to work for a living instead of catering to the whims of the lovely Mme Blackadder......... http://i.imgur.com/9TkBTAO.jpg  First glance at the images under flash look far too granular, such is not the case but merely an optical illusion of the camera, the actual surface is much more refined.
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Post by: Ruglud
Can really see the details in the low light shot.... 
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thanks for the reply; the flash tends to wash out the detail especially with the reflective paint. Also it makes for a grainular texture that isn't apparent in normal light.
Too Many Parts:
The legs and lower torso components take up a considerable portion of the kitchen table. Missing is the main hull and carapace components.
http://i.imgur.com/aNBDoOT.jpg
This is actually the first time I have disassemble the titan in its entirety and I am floored at the number of components.
I hope I can remember were everything goes...........
It will be fun when everything is painted and all the parts are laid out.
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Post by: Ruglud
If you do forget, can always use your build thread here as the technical manual 
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Post by: Hruotland
A truly impressive display, the way of construction you undertook is even more fantastic than the breathtaking result that is now coming together!
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thanks for the reply,
So What ARE Those Wires Sticking Out Of the Greaves Blackadder?
Back about two or more years ago I got the idea of wiring diodes into the greave mounted search lights and to that end I installed the harness and the battery compartment and just left them dangling until today.
I have the parts and the electronics ready but to make this work I need lenses to fit the searchlight bitz so here's a brief tutorial of how I intend to produce the lenses.
http://i.imgur.com/txwUjFM.jpg
I started by cutting square blanks out of clear styrene and gluing the blanks onto the ends of 7/16 inch (11 MM) using various sanding tools to produce the small round transparent lenses.
Pictured are the tubes with the blanks glued on; one before and one after (You have to look close to see the rounded lens still glued to the tube.
http://i.imgur.com/MO6rEaX.jpg
Also pictured in the top image are the greave mounted search lights positioned on the flying greave panel.
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Post by: Ruglud
Anti-Auto-Append
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thanks for running interference...........do you have football in a galaxy far far away?
Serendipity Once Again Rears It's Ugly Head:
I was going to keep these to myself until the Warlord was reassembled but this was too good to pass up without comment, the effect would be lost in the overall presentation of the completed model...........
http://i.imgur.com/yWdZDbM.jpg
I wish I could take credit for this but it came about purely by accident; I noticed when I was applying the armour veneers that the 'Testors' glue was slightly dissolving the 0,25 MM (0.010 inch) sheet styrene but until highlighting these large panels today I had no idea to what extent. The aluminum powder accentuates the dissolved areas giving a millennia old worn and weathered appearance that probably could not have been achieved on purpose.
http://i.imgur.com/4JzpGjG.jpg
The effect was simple to achieve I just took the tube of glue and squeezing ever so slightly applied threadlike trails all over the area to be covered with the pre-cut sheet styrene. I the rubbed the panel until the glue set and sealed the edges with thin set solvent.
Even the mistakes and warped panels lend character to the armour simulation battle damage or in the case of the prominent vertical line in the first image where I removed a strip of styrene and applied it diagonally for greater aesthetic appeal looks like the residue of a centuries old modification.
Of course there may be some that do not like this mottled effect but to me this battle weary biped looks the better for the superficial damage.
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Post by: Ruglud
Total agreement - that effect is simply fantastic accidental weathering... I have similar showing on my Thunderbolt and Thunderhawk and thought they would to the model rather than detract...
And yes - football (or soccer) is everywhere and all times
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Post by: Hruotland
If I remember correctly the appropriate citation is "there are no mistakes, just happy little accidents..." Quod erat demonstrandum.
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Post by: mullet_steve
mistakes are learning opportunities in my house
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Post by: jabbakahut
That is a serendipitous find! Looks awesome.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thanks for all the replies............
The Command Deck Retrofitted:
In view of the new colour scheme the Command deck needed to be brought into accord so the new Command is now complete and ready for furniture and shutters.
http://i.imgur.com/YoZz7nG.jpg
The big gaping hole is for the lighting module that will light both the Command and Engineering decks.
Much of the interior is chopped up bitz from a CoD kit with a few home made items such as the blast doors and the front wall panel.
http://i.imgur.com/I9PdmFV.jpg
I think the steely interior is more in keeping with the 40K genera but the English signs may be a bit out of place. I can't recall warning signs in my search for Warhammer items.
Anyway the Vestibule of the "Door to Nowhere" now has a pocket door
http://i.imgur.com/yJTZbZc.jpg
I definitely need a light in the vestibule to show the detail.
http://i.imgur.com/Jkmq31w.jpg
But for now a flash will do.
http://i.imgur.com/5vCizqY.jpg
I really love weekends, I get so much done..............
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
I love the weathering, and again I've got to say that I love the yellow spot color with the hazard stripes! It is even better as a contrast to the metallic interior.
It looks Fantastic! Can't wait to see the final assembly...if you can remember how to put it all back together. 
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Post by: Warboss_Waaazag
Again, this build is amazing. The plating, the paint job. All Beautiful. I have no better input other than DAMN.
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Post by: FeindusMaximus
Nice service door detail.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Update on the powdered metal, in my travels today I tried a local artist supply store where I found "Pearl Ex Pigments"
These are true metallic pigments and I purchased "Aztec Gold", "True Blue" and "Silver" which is actually a grey pigment that I intend to mix with the 'True Blue' to make a 'Steel' colour.
Someone might check for Aussie art stores that may stock similar materials.
Here is a link to a US store for reference and colour chart. Note on the colour chart; it shows the colour but doesn't represent the metallic sheen if the actual pigment.
http://www.dickblick.com/products/jacquard...rl-ex-pigments/
Since this stuff is manufactured in California, the Super Nanny State, it should be safe enough to feed your Joey as the label says NON-TOXIC.
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Post by: Theophony
 death to the auto append.
Sounds good, I'll have to check my local art store to see what they have.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thank you,
Gee Blackadder You Sure Have a Lot of Pencils:
Taking a side trip to make the searchlight lenses and mount the lights on the flying greaves.
First order of business was to remove the opaque lenses from the GW searchlight frame, that was accomplished with various drills and my drum rasp.
http://i.imgur.com/2P5zkWA.jpg
The flying greave imaged here has the searchlight housing installed and awaiting the LED. What this country needs is a good right angle LED because end on it just won't fit.
A complaint Ms Blackadder has voiced on occasion..... but I digress.
Below the various stages of cutting out the lenses and a finished lens ready for install in the frame and a completed frame and lens that has to be redone as it was my first try and I made the lens too small.
http://i.imgur.com/mtvspuc.jpg
No 'wag' comments please.....
Finally same shot different angle showing a drum rasp in the foreground; an indispensable tool for reshaping styrene.
http://i.imgur.com/qSl3JaJ.jpg
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Post by: Hruotland
What this country needs is a good right angle LED because end on it just won't fit.
Why don't you just use glass fiber cables? (And for you being The Blackadder, I suppose there really is a reason, so please don't assume this is asked in a tone of know-better)
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Post by: The_Blackadder
I had thought of that but I don't know a lot about fiber optics; on talking to a Verizon fiber optic installer I got the impression that the cable cannot be increased in diameter so a one millimeter cable will produce a one millimeter dot of light given that the searchlight housing is only about 5 MM deep the light cone at maximum say 45° would produce a diffuse light spread of 5 MM and diluted by 500%, Plus you need a fairly intense light source which in all likelihood would be a LED so what would be the savings? but thanks for the suggestion.
BTW I had planned to use fiber-optics in the cockpit to light the instruments but the effect was minimal and not worth the time and effort.
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Post by: Anvildude
You do have a lense, don't you? That should work to spread the light out.
This seems like it could be helpful in setting up lights to do specific things, though if you were putting it through a fiber optic you would be more concerned with spreading the light instead of concentrating it.
And of course, depending on just how technical you want to get (knowing you, it's "All the Technical"), you could buy actual lenses from someplace like EO.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Much Ado About Nothing: Well it took a lot of effort and modifications but I finally got my searchlights operating and I have to say I'm not overwhelmed. cutting the lenses checking the circuit as it was being assembled was a lot of trouble for this less than awesome result.......... http://i.imgur.com/DuutMk5.jpg  After clearing the top lens I think I'll cloud it up again because the translucent lenses look better. http://i.imgur.com/kCpr4pF.jpg  The reverse side shows the temporary splices to prove the circuit. I have to clean and solder the connections. http://i.imgur.com/z8IOlNa.jpg  What next Blackadder; a Bat Signal?
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
It's awesome, man. I mean, to really appreciate it you need this model in a war-torn cityscape, surrounded by explosions and flares, with its searchlights targeting an enemy super-heavy. So, lacking that, we will just use our imaginations, and appreciate the time and effort that you have once again displayed in this immense labour of love.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thanks,
I kept putting off the installation of the lights hoping that technology will eventually catch up to my requirements alas to no avail. The standard LEDs have a cylindrical shape, the length being about twice the diameter, with a 'built in' lens at one end that for some reason has to be moulded 'straight on' as opposed to the 90° configuration I required. This seems to be industry standard unless I want to buy special kits/models/and bling lighting (which incidentally has higher voltage requirements than I can comfortably house in the confines available) that may have my requirements and even then the LEDs are pretty much dedicated to the specific item.
What I did in this case was to line the interior of the searchlight housing with aluminum foil to reflect the beam back into the housing and then out through the lens which is sufficient. I just needed the resultant effect of the searchlight illuminated, it did not have to literally throw a beam.
By mounting the LED 'end on' through the lens would have created a "Hot Spot'' of light instead of diffusing through the entire lens aperture plus I would have had unsightly wires protruding from the back end of the searchlight housing instead of virtually hidden protruding from the side. In all the installation was a sufficient compromise and I achieved the effect I desired albeit not without a good deal of wiring gymnastics.... More on the installation to come now that I have come up with a viable plan of execution to follow.
Now that I have a plan I can proceed with the rest of the illumination. Headlights on the face seem to me superfluous but I do like the idea of red carapace 'running lights' à la the Inquisitor Warlord:
http://www.pcdome.hu/gallery/3977/image11.jpg
Of course interior lighting is definitely in the works "Head and Torso" will be well illuminated........
Thanks for the reply.
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Post by: Hruotland
The visual effect of the position lights on the inquisitor warlord is cool. But with that red illumination of the bridge, I could not help but think Cylon...
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Post by: jabbakahut
First I agree that the frosted lens looks better. I don't know why you wouldn't use a surface mount led, they also make rectangle LEDs. I'm sure whatever your designed will work though.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Sheer ignorance is why I looked for right angle LEDs but did not know the proper nominclature to search for the item I needed, Thanks for providing that. On the other hand the surface mounted appear too bulky to fit into the searchlight housing on first examination but I'll research the product thoroughly. Grumble, grumble! I knew someone had the right information and I doubly knew it wouldn't be forthcoming until after the fact. Such is the lot of the uninformed tyro.  Brightly though my initial concept was to use a 9 volt battery and still have the holder sleeve applicable to both the 3 volt and 9 volt battery holders. I can make the swap in less time than it took to type this........ 
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Post by: Hruotland
SMD-LED!!! Oh man, I could have told you that... I had totally forgotten about them - don't worry about too bulky. You get them in the model railroad shop. What is small enough to be used as a free-standing steam lokomotion headlight in HO is surely not too bulky for heroic scale.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 Hruotland wrote: SMD-LED!!! Oh man, I could have told you that... I had totally forgotten about them - don't worry about too bulky. You get them in the model railroad shop. What is small enough to be used as a free-standing steam lokomotion headlight in HO is surely not too bulky for heroic scale.
There's a special Hell for those that rely on their inventiveness and I welcome the accommodations because there is also something to be said for beating the system i.e. making something work that isn't designed to do that. It's the secret of the Blackadder's millions figuratively speaking of course but I'd rather have satisfaction than wealth..... but enough rationalization. You're a HO train buff? I'll have to dig out my scratch HO antebellum locomotive based on the original 'Mantua' Rogers 1855 "General."
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Post by: Theophony
"Choo Choo!!!"
That's train talk for killing the auto append 
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Post by: Hruotland
@blackadder: yes and no, I am kind of mechaniac and steam punk (craving for the real thing, not steampunk fiction), and model hobbyist. Alhough my interest are diverse and branching out, model railroad is something like the logical result of matching spheres. Sadly I cannot afford an own model railroad(considering money as well as space), but in the past years I have helped my brother tinkering with his HO R.R. My first attempts to painting miniatures, modding models and building terrain were happening there, giving his locos and cars patina, detailing some crew for open cabin engines, designing landscape etc. Also we had a hard time modifying a then-still GDR produced PICO Diesel to western Germany's Fleischmann coupling standard. I remember how hesitating we were before hacking into the virgin model...
- Certainly I'd very much like to see pics of your scratchbuilt loco! Shame I cannot return the favour, lacking some halfway decent camera as well as (at the moment) something presentable. But there are started projects as well as Christmas approaching... we will see.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Plan Ahead:
Well I thought I planned ahead but NOT!
It seems my ambition has exceeded my complacency so I had to cut into finished work to upgrade the overall interior appearance. I had been contented to just have un-embellished lights somewhere in the command deck overhead but now I want side mounted recessed lighting in the upper gallery that looks like it belongs.
With that it necessitates cutting into the floor of the Void Generator compartment which will serve also for me to install reflective panels in the command deck ceiling.
http://i.imgur.com/ArNpL2g.jpg
These three images of just about the same thing shows one LED (temporarily installed and the rough cut openings I made for access to the hidden compartments behind the room walls that will now be the battery/electrical compartments. The cuts will be dressed smooth and the ceiling panel will now be removable for access to the batteries and wiring The white styrene stripes are newly installed reinforcements for the walls.
Closeup of the LED with spacer collar and bezel trim:
http://i.imgur.com/vmyV6iz.jpg
Another view of the same..........
http://i.imgur.com/LntpyZf.jpg
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Post by: Anvildude
Oh! So you actually have room inside the walls! Good on ya!
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Post by: Hruotland
it's those small details that divide mastership from mere awsomeness. In the end it WILL make a difference.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Work'n Inna Coal Mine:
Not enough light my camera keeps telling me but apparently enough to take these images. Eight 3 volt LEDs powered by 4 AA batteries seem barely adequate to do the job I may try a higher voltage.
The right side array is poorly wired but the left side LEDs are mounted on a 2,0 MM X 6,3 MM styrene strip.
http://i.imgur.com/vFvuJ4Q.jpg
Now at least the Tech College and Ad Mech Icon can be seen whereas they were not visible before even when prime grey and ambient lighting.
http://i.imgur.com/OyyGbVI.jpg
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Post by: Littletower
I'm sure you already know this, but maybe it could be worked out without changing batteries yet.
Light yield will depend on the connection scheme of the LEDs as well as the power source´s and LEDs' voltages. The left side array LEDs seem to be wired in parallel, and I'll assume the right side one is so too, though it doesn't show.
If the complete arrays are parallel to each other as well the circuit should work fine with the 4AA - 6V battery, with no added resistor (extra added lamps in this way affect power consumption - and thus, battery life-span -, but should not cause a voltage drop). If light is coming out too low, you might have a serial connection somewhere splitting the power.
Hope: a) I made sense; b) didn't try to tell you something you were already aware of.
And since I'm at it, and in case you've not had enough of it yet, looks absolutely amazing.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Sorry I'm a bit under the influence of my weekly triple Martini at this time and need some clarification: Right now I have 4 3.0 volt LEDs wired in parallel with a 200ohm resistor (no series circuit as yet) on the right side and I have 4 LEDs of indeterminate values (Harbor Freight Flashlight LEDs) http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XFH6mBsNL._SX342_.jpg ( I desoldered and rewired the LEDs in parallel utilizing best guess resistance value for optimum proformance) and wired in Parallel with another resistor of the same value 200Ω. I have no series connection of that I am sure. Not being an electrical engineer and not knowing the required values it's pretty much hit or miss on how to increase the lumens without blowing the components or depleting the batteries too quickly, Since it appears you do know what you are talking about; any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Tell me what you need further to know.........i.e. resistance values applied etc. BTW "Foot of the Andes," I love it east or west slope. I haven't been to the Andes in years. My last excursion was to Machu Picchu where I tied the lovely Ms Blackadder naked to the Intihuatana Stone as an offering to the Sun God. Can you still do that? Sorry that experience predated digital cameras no pictures available.
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Post by: Hruotland
The effect is great! How about supplementing it with a more yellow-ish spotlight onto the shrine?
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Hruotland wrote:The effect is great! How about supplementing it with a more yellow-ish spotlight onto the shrine?
That is coming, the wiring is there but I need some resistance values. I'm working with stone knives and bearskins in this project and my Electrical engineering is a tad rusty.
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Post by: jabbakahut
That lighting adds so much mood, looks boss!
I am happy to help with lighting. You can run between 10-50 leds off 3 AAA's for 4-26 hours. I am currently researching for my lighting projects.
The simple fix without reworking your entire system would be to change your resistance. Being as you went with the cheapest LED's you could find (Harbor Freight is great when quality doesn't matter), I would worry about an led burning out after the model is completed. But as long as you are okay with that possibility (actually, with random interior lights out, it would look more industrial and Gothic, I am going to to have to consider that for mine, maybe a flickering light like it's going to go out).
I just reread what you wrote, I didn't realize you hacked a flashlight, I thought you build from component-wise. I will have to think about your problem...
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So, you don't have a dropping resistor at each LED, just one at the end?
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Post by: Ruglud
I've found this article on TerraGenesis useful in the past...
How to light several LEDs
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Post by: Littletower
A wise man knows what battles to pick, and when to do so. After three Martinis, putting this one off for a while sounds like wisdom to me.
Disclaimer: I’m not an engineer either – nor a native English speaker –, so please bear with me. And if there is a real one around, I apologize in advance for what’s coming up next.
A minimal background (feel free to skip):
a) In an electric circuit, current (amperes or amps) equals potential difference (volts) over resistance (R, measured in Ohms).
b) In a parallel circuit, voltage is the same for all elements and current draw adds on (thus, two 3 volt, 20 mA LEDs in parallel will consume 40 mA, and require a 3 volt power source).
c) In a serial circuit, current is the same and potential adds on (same two LEDs require a 6V input, and consume 20 mA)
In this case, you have an effective 6V power (4AA batteries, serially connected), 4 3.0 volt LEDs wired in parallel with a 200ohm resistor in the right array and 4 indeterminate value LEDs wired in parallel with a 200ohm resistor (being white, 3/3.1V 20mA sounds like a safe assumption, so I’d consider it equivalent to the previous one)
The calculated resistance for each side branch would be 37,5 Ohms, so you should probably use a 39 Ohm (higher closest available) resistor, 5% tolerance (color coded: orange, white, black, gold).
Your 200 Ohm resistors are pulling the circuit too far down, hence the low light yield. No need to change/add more batteries, changing the whole circuit resistance should be enough.
In case (today being Sunday and all) that you had more batteries available but not an appropriate selection of resistors at hand, you could leave the LEDs and resistors as are, and build up the power source to 18V (2 9V batteries connected in series). More expensive but you’d probably never run out of batteries either (though thinking of it, that would require higher wattage resistors, and increase heat dissipation too, which might be an issue of its own in such close quarters).
And onto your other point: eastern slope, further south. I’m not sure about current Machu Picchu regulations either – myself having being there over three score and some year ago –, but I do know free backpacking the Inca trail is not longer allowed (Only organized tours with officially sanctioned guides nowadays), so my guess is you did your offering to Inti at the right time, things might have become a bit too standardized for that at the present…
Hope it helps, and feel free to delete if it doesn't.
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Post by: ProfessionalAmateur
I keep coming back to this project every so often, and each time I can only express slack-jawed amazement. I worry that I'm beginning to sound like a perpetually gobsmacked broken record.
Also this made me want to read the old Titan comics from Warhammer Monthly again.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Wait; Are you saying Warlord Titans can Talk? and are touchy-feely in touch with their inner self....Yeech there goes my breakfast. I think I'll keep my Luteus Vexant mute. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Littletower wrote:A wise man knows what battles to pick, and when to do so. After three Martinis, putting this one off for a while sounds like wisdom to me. Disclaimer: I’m not an engineer either – nor a native English speaker –, so please bear with me. And if there is a real one around, I apologize in advance for what’s coming up next. A minimal background (feel free to skip): a) In an electric circuit, current (amperes or amps) equals potential difference (volts) over resistance (R, measured in Ohms). b) In a parallel circuit, voltage is the same for all elements and current draw adds on (thus, two 3 volt, 20 mA LEDs in parallel will consume 40 mA, and require a 3 volt power source). c) In a serial circuit, current is the same and potential adds on (same two LEDs require a 6V input, and consume 20 mA) In this case, you have an effective 6V power (4AA batteries, serially connected), 4 3.0 volt LEDs wired in parallel with a 200ohm resistor in the right array and 4 indeterminate value LEDs wired in parallel with a 200ohm resistor (being white, 3/3.1V 20mA sounds like a safe assumption, so I’d consider it equivalent to the previous one) The calculated resistance for each side branch would be 37,5 Ohms, so you should probably use a 39 Ohm (higher closest available) resistor, 5% tolerance (color coded: orange, white, black, gold). Your 200 Ohm resistors are pulling the circuit too far down, hence the low light yield. No need to change/add more batteries, changing the whole circuit resistance should be enough. In case (today being Sunday and all) that you had more batteries available but not an appropriate selection of resistors at hand, you could leave the LEDs and resistors as are, and build up the power source to 18V (2 9V batteries connected in series). More expensive but you’d probably never run out of batteries either (though thinking of it, that would require higher wattage resistors, and increase heat dissipation too, which might be an issue of its own in such close quarters). And onto your other point: eastern slope, further south. I’m not sure about current Machu Picchu regulations either – myself having being there over three score and some year ago –, but I do know free backpacking the Inca trail is not longer allowed (Only organized tours with officially sanctioned guides nowadays), so my guess is you did your offering to Inti at the right time, things might have become a bit too standardized for that at the present… Hope it helps, and feel free to delete if it doesn't.
I mis-spoke, er typed my spec's on the lighting; there are two separate sets of 3 volt parallel circuits and will be five LEDs each (I'm adding another LED for overhead lighting of the altar) so its: ''battery(3.0 volts)'' to ''200Ω resistor in series'' to ''five LEDs'' wired in parallel and then back to the battery (I'll probably throw in a switch at some point but right now I just unplug the battery. What you are saying is I should decrease the resistor value to < 40Ω instead of upping the voltage; correct? Thanks for the info..... Shame about Machu Picchu Hiram Bingham would be appalled Ms BA and I were there in the height of the Indiana Jones craze and we were stranded for a few extra days when the rail line washed out. We virtually had the whole place to ourselves and got carried away, HA! She was a lot more playful then. Nowadays she declines any memory of the incident  Incidentally they had an excellent hotel/restaurant there at the time where we stayed for seven nights while we explored the local Inca trails totally unsupervised but the world was a much better place in those days. Automatically Appended Next Post: I gotta find the pictures of that trip (Note to self)
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Post by: ProfessionalAmateur
The_Blackadder wrote:Wait; Are you saying Warlord Titans can Talk? and are touchy-feely in touch with their inner self....Yeech there goes my breakfast.
I think I'll keep my Luteus Vexant mute.
Well, the Princeps says it can and I'm not about to argue with a guy with Turbolasers.
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Post by: Littletower
The_Blackadder wrote:
two separate sets of 3 volt parallel circuits and will be five LEDs each (I'm adding another LED for overhead lighting of the altar)
so its: ''battery(3.0 volts)'' to ''200Ω resistor in series'' to ''five LEDs'' wired in parallel and then back to the battery (I'll probably throw in a switch at some point but right now I just unplug the battery.
What you are saying is I should decrease the resistor value to < 40Ω instead of upping the voltage; correct? Thanks for the info...../quote]
Even simpler with independent circuits: 3V battery, 4/5 parallel 3V 20mA LEDs (number only affects battery life in this disposition): Only a minimal resistor is needed (5 Ohm should be fine). It could even work without one at all, but there's a risk of blowing up/diminished lifetime for the LEDs that way.
...but the world was a much better place in those days.
I'll toast to that tonight. And to the memories of days of yore.
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Post by: hk1x1
That's starting to look really atmospheric with the added lighting, and if I knew anything about LEDs I'd lend some help,
unfortunately my expertise ends with splicing wires and hooking up battery packs.
But you seem to be getting plenty of advice, so I think I'll jut step back and wait patiently for the results
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Post by: The_Blackadder
New Kid On the Block:
Or mebbe not, I don't know but I found this site just today with what appears to be a full sized L.P. Warlord complete with weapons for around 460 bucks. It's a lot more robust than my version ( DS's Version) but should satisfy that need to own a Giant Stomper urge.
http://www.tsipisgames.com/
Dunno whether it's still available, size, or material but the weapons look interesting. Anyone else know anymore about it?
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Post by: ProfessionalAmateur
Not so keen on that Warlord for sale, looks ok in the zoomed-out shots but the close-ups make it look very rough.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Together Again:
The leg/waist component is back together again with new lighting, new bolts and nut axles, new escape hatch and detail on the underside of the pelvis and a new covering of graphite hued skin which will have to be brightened with some beauty marks.
http://i.imgur.com/nQHirKF.jpg
But in fairness the room is quite dark and the flash somehow augments the darkness.
The electronics are moving ahead quite well and the interior lighting should be finished this coming weekend.
On the upper torso the new Engineering 'Blast Door' is completed and installed and the gunner platform behind the chest plate is ready but not as yet installed (It will be a removable piece consisting of two gunners and bolters firing down at enemy ground personnel.
http://i.imgur.com/ppBoM9j.jpg
Big surprise in this image the greave floodlights seem to be working, they are actually reflecting the flash.
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Post by: jabbakahut
I like the gunner platform idea, was that on the original or did you think that up? I should go look myself.
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Post by: Medium of Death
Such an epic shot.
Looking forward to the gunner platform.
Are you planning to have any crew peering out through the open hatches?
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Post by: The_Blackadder
I have always had in mind that the one weakness these titans have in common is the inability to deal with individual ground forces. The Warhounds may be swift enough to outdistance ground troops but the clanking Reavers and Warlords should pose easy pickings for dedicated teams. It seems a squad of determined troops could destroy the slow moving feet with strategically place explosives especially in a coordinated attack from the rear. I therefore resolved to equip the waist and pelvis with small arms bolters personally manned and remote aimed swivel triple bolters mounted on the lower edge of each greave to achieve cross fire protection.
It is a matter of general knowledge that tanks unsupported by infantry are vulnerable to ground force attack and I see no reason why titans should not likewise be susceptible. To date I believe the concept in regards to titans is original with me at least I see no addressment of the issue to date.
Of course the whole of the above may be rendered moot if the unknown properties of the ethereal 'Void Shields' do in fact protect in the event of the above mentioned intrusions.
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Post by: Hruotland
Sounds reasonable. Of course a solution to the problem would be fielding adequate support troops, like a carrier is always accompanied by a flotilla of destroyers etc, or tanks deployed together with mobile infantry. I imagine a titan of warlord or emperor size should also be accompanied by flanking warhounds, a squad of air support and a platoon or two of mobile infantry, land speeders, bikes etc. Still on board anti-infantry weapons would come handy, cause you never know.
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Post by: jabbakahut
gak, IRL a titan on the battlefield would become the focus of most attack I would figure. A well placed kamikaze seems like it would be an efficient means to take down a walker. Airplane right into the legs, battle over.
I would imagine that like a Naval battlegroup, a titan has an accompanying fleet of troops and vehicles surrounding it. As a mobile weapon platform, its only goal it to get close enough to fire (which is what the idea of close combat weapons on titans is absurd-although it didn't stop me from getting that giant power-fist for my Reaver).
Regardless, it makes sense that there would be automated turrets all over a titan
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Post by: Gogsnik
This may be of some interest then: 'Unlike Battle Titans, all Emperor class Titans carry short range anti-infantry weaponry to keep enemy assault troops at bay.' Titan Legions Rule Book page 44
Some sort of automated defence system for all Titans seems entirely reasonable despite what that entry says above; even a Warhound could and should have a few automated bolter turrets to protect itself. On a Warlord it is extremely silly to suggest that they can't or don't have such defence systems or that the crew could not act as such.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Let's equate the situation with 20th century Battleships.
In 1906 (I believe) the 'Dreadnought' was launched, the first all big gun Battleship. Eight years later airplanes became a potential threat so machineguns were equipped on Battleships. Fast forward to WWII and the Super Dreadnoughts had big guns, 4.5 and 5.0 inch secondary guns plus numerous AA cannon.
How vulnerable would a Battleship be without the anti-aircraft defense?
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
The_Blackadder wrote:Let's equate the situation with 20th century Battleships.
In 1906 (I believe) the 'Dreadnought' was launched, the first all big gun Battleship. Eight years later airplanes became a potential threat so machineguns were equipped on Battleships. Fast forward to WWII and the Super Dreadnoughts had big guns, 4.5 and 5.0 inch secondary guns plus numerous AA cannon.
How vulnerable would a Battleship be without the anti-aircraft defense?
For sure. In one of the recent HH novels, "Betrayer" the World Eaters take down a Titan by getting into its legs and killing all the crew. So it definitely makes sense for it to have anti-personnel as well as Anti-Aircraft guns.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Together Again, Again:
This time with the upper torso reassembled. I haven't seen this this complete until today when it's been completely assembled (aside from a few glitches such as the new beefier gun stanchions interfere with the catwalks and the interior of the main guns barrels need to be painted. I started highlighting basic shiny armour with metallic gold and copper dry pigments but only on the interior. The effect needs a little refining before pictures.
http://i.imgur.com/EO1R8nx.jpg
The exterior needs some lighter silvery highlights and quite a few splashes of colour I know but right now I am overly pleased with the effect so far.
http://i.imgur.com/kFFEZGs.jpg
These low angle shots really show the majesty of this titan much more so than straight on and high level images especially without pieces that demonstrate the scale of the beast.
http://i.imgur.com/VcUaPke.jpg
I have to install locking washers on the axles because the upper torso has become so heavy the bolts loosen just standing static and Luteus almost took a header off the telly console and I caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor.
http://i.imgur.com/9E1d6i9.jpg
Note in the view above the engineering upper gallery faceted rectangular view ports, I may highlight those with copper bands so the glue seams don't show.
http://i.imgur.com/k8ErOjW.jpg
Finally what every grunt longs for; that a Warlord has passed him by and he can still lives to tell about it.
In all not a bad week's effort...........I may celebrate tonight with a Martini.
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Post by: Cosmic
By The Emperor, that thing is HUGE! Outstanding attention to detail, Blackadder, it looks fantastic... enjoy that Martini!
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Post by: Anvildude
When you're all done, you NEED to take some Grunt's Eye View pics of that with a greenscreen behind it, so we can all take a shot at putting it in a suitable background.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
I planned to use these photos for just such a purpose.
BTW Cosmic, I haven't measured it lately but the last time I checked it was 70 CM in height i.e. just shy of 28 inches.
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Post by: jabbakahut
Good catch, that would have been a drag!
Are there going to be interior lights in the engineering upper gallery faceted rectangular view ports? They may not need any highlighting if there is some sort of red engineering lighting coming from within.
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Post by: Sammoth
Great work. Hope to see the finished product soon.
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Post by: granander
Holy crap on a cracker with butter and cherry on top... wow!
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Post by: The_Blackadder
No not finished (Will it ever be "Finished" probably not?) but ostensibly for now the main components are satisfactorily completed.
Still to be done:
Highlighting the armour with silvers, golds, and copper and a steel blue wash in certain areas plus an overall black wash to reveal the detail.
Interior paint, computer panels and more lighting.
Chasing circuits for the plasma weapons and turbo lasers (Still haven't figured those out?)
Assorted heraldry and purity seals.
Assorted Banners and battle pendants.
Crew, gunners, tech priests and auto and manned small arms (Bolters) installations.
A display base and stand.
Thanks for getting me to formulate a list although I'm sure it's not complete...........
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Post by: MagosBiff90
Such an impressive amount of detail and effort in there. And even if you get even half of that list completed then itis going to be a real wonder to behold!
Hats off!
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Seconded...
I would like to see you Black if possible attempt the warlord Melta cannon and Quake cannon too
The Hellstorm cannon you showed interest in is an Emperor class weapon and as such as a tad too large for a Warlord 
Is "Anunearthlychild" and "Mxwllmdr" & etc (way too many to list here) still posting on this forum? I am about to start building additional weapons for "Dirty Harry " and crave their input for these cannon. I just reread this thread and miss all my old bud's.
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Post by: jabbakahut
I always liked Mxwllmdr projects. Sadly he hasn't posted in almost a year. But then I wonder, being that I have just lurked for a few years now, who knows when someone is around or will come back.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Is there a Mars pattern Warlord in your future?
Seems the buzz is that FW will be relasing a Mars Warlord in the first half of this year according to:
http://battlebunnies.blogspot.com/2015/04/soooooo-who-is-up-for-warlord-titan.html?showComment=1429094217110#c3746920820961701592
unless this is the cruelest April fools joke imaginable. Now why they were keeping this a secret is beyond comprehension because unless you're independently wealth you're going to have to save up to buy one of these because the projected price will be around £914 (1351.86 US Dollars); hope that includes weapons.
The good news is it appears 1.5 to 2.0 times taller than the Reaver Titan judging by the main gun showing
in the Reaver image:
so my Lucius Warlord is in the same ball park:
http://i.imgur.com/kFFEZGs.jpg
plus it's a Mars so there's no conflict there......... Whew!
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Anvildude wrote:When you're all done, you NEED to take some Grunt's Eye View pics of that with a greenscreen behind it, so we can all take a shot at putting it in a suitable background.
Missed this post,
Looking up how to make a green screen
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Post by: lliu
The_Blackadder wrote:Anvildude wrote:When you're all done, you NEED to take some Grunt's Eye View pics of that with a greenscreen behind it, so we can all take a shot at putting it in a suitable background.
Missed this post,
Looking up how to make a green screen
Get some from the local art store. They have it there.
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
I am loving the progress and while your list of "remaining actions" remains long, I believe in you Blackadder!
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Something Unholy Comes This Way:
A tease in the FW newsletter; the foot pad of the Mars Warlord. and a scale figure so I can do a bit of calculating.
To my eye it seems a bit smaller than my 'Luteus' but that might just be my paranoia.
Anyway there is significant changes in detail from the Epic Warlord cast metal titan I based my model on so I shall have to see if any amendments can be made to 'Luteus Vexant' I believe what is presented here are the diagonal trapezoidal toes. which are detachable on mine so modifications should be easy.
See boys and girls, "Craziness pays........."
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Side by Side:
It's easy to see why FW gets the big bucks.
Luteus is hopelessly out classed; Fah!
Don't quit yer day job Blackadder.......... Automatically Appended Next Post:  pantheralegionnaire wrote:I am loving the progress and while your list of "remaining actions" remains long, I believe in you Blackadder!
Green Screen Hyjinks:
Well since Luteus has been usurped I figure I'll have some fun before the real Warlord comes out.
Red Eye Panorama I call this one:
http://i.imgur.com/3PxUvq0.jpg
Hey this green screen stuff is kinda fun..........
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Post by: Anvildude
Bah. The took the easy way out with those non-working ball joints. There's no way that design would actually be able to support the weight and still have a full range of motion- besides which, there's not even any proper connection points there, just a little bit of smoke and mirrors trying to handwave away the discrepancies and pass off 'ruffles and holes' as mounting points.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Right you are, this is what I wrote about ankle joints and ball socket foot attachments back in 2012 when I was just starting this Warlord below highlighted in red:
The_Blackadder wrote:Xypus wrote:The_Blackadder wrote:I don't know I stated this before but I did some studies on the dynamics of walking ...
Hi, I've been following your t'hawk project for some time and this project from the start; I'm also wrestling with a functional Warlord design and your efforts are very helpful.
I was really curious how are you gonna tackle the articulation of the toes and seeing what you've devised I have some questions and comments:
- don't you think that the side toes should also have some upwards mobility? In case, for example, of the foot stepping into some depression in the ground? In such case they could easily get damaged or impair the stability of the whole construct, if the ground didn't yield.
The way I interpret the toes the diagonal toes are stationary or extend to increase stability when the opposing foot is in the air. The side toes do not need to flex upward.
do you plan to mask somehow the hinge mechanism in the side toes? As it is now it's clearly visible with the toe bent down.
It's not visible now with the hydraulic compartments installed the hinge is completely hidden.
you seem to have run out of room for the articulation of the diagonal stabilizing toes. I imagine they should have quite large range of movement not to restrict the front toe, which might be the case here.
also I'm wondering if it's a good idea to place the hinge on the upper edge of the front toe - there's quite a gap from the underside when it's bent and I can't help but think what would happen with the real thing if something got stuck in there (like a tank turret, or a fragment of a ferrocrete wall). According to your theory of walking it would impair the Titan's ability to actually step forward.
I'm only following the visual evidence on the rather primitive epic model I would suppose that on a real titan precautions would be taken to prevent jamming and FOD.
why didn't you choose to articulate the 'ankle' with a ball joint, as it is with Warhound Titans? It seems to be an easiest and most intuitive design - and three enormous actuators on the Epic Titan model, one in the back an two on the sides, seem to corroborate such a construction.
I explained that in an earlier post but I will repeat it here:
The model shows a disc shaped plate at the end of the shank that is not in the Warhound. I see no evidence of steering/tilting actuators as in the Warhound.
The Warlord needn't be as quick or nimble as a Warhound any more than a battleship needs to emulate a destroyer and therefore doesn't require the flexibility the ball socket affords. Instead it has the benefit of the much stronger ankle attachment with one axis above and one axis below the disc that incidentally is similar to the way the human foot works that also does not employ a ball/socket arrangement although nature does have ball and socket joints elsewhere in the body i.e. shoulder and hip.
You're not going to quibble with the Grand Designer are you?
Also you have to remember that the ball/socket in the Warhound is not the ankle. The actual ankle is the joint above the greaves. which cannot turn or swivel. What the ball/socket is corresponds to the so-called ball of our foot directly behind the toes. The Warhound actually walks/runs on tiptoes as we do when we run. It's an entirely different means of locomotion.
(Forgive my wording or spelling errors, I'm not a native speaker).
You could have fooled me.
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
Ha! I just saw that Forge World teaser and came looking for this thread....only to find you had already posted the pic! Don't be hard on yourself, man--they are trying to keep up with YOU!
It should be fun to see how it progresses, and I must say once again that I am so impressed with your positive attitude. That your reaction to this was "Oh, well, I can easily make some modifications to my (own amazing) model"...that's just incredible. So, well done to you, on all counts!
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thanks and thanks for the interrupt. Luteus Vexant Stands 160 feet (49 meters) tall. This is not a kit, everything is handmade from scratch fabricated from individual bits of styrene. There are well over 10,000 bits of plastic glued together some no bigger than the head of a pin. "Luteus Vexant" is the name I chose for the Warlord It in Latin loosely translated means "Dirty Harry." The Titan has a full interior with five levels completely furnished and manned with a crew. I am still in the process of wiring the lighting and it needs more paint. http://i.imgur.com/NgEqa30.jpg 
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Post by: Valhalla130
You know, the Warlord they're making is a Mars Pattern titan. Your's could be a different pattern from another forgeworld.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 Valhalla130 wrote:You know, the Warlord they're making is a Mars Pattern titan. Your's could be a different pattern from another forgeworld.
Yes it's a Lucius Pattern..........
The only other Titan I know of is the Warhound that was made by Forge World in the Lucius Pattern. I'm sure it was a matter of economy but both Lucius and Mars (and Chaos for that matter) share the same overall leg and hip and waist components.
This apparently is not the case in the Warlord and the Reaver.
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Post by: JohnnyHell
You don't need a green screen, per se. You do need no shadows on the screen. A white background would do if there are no shadows. I tried 'shopping just now but gave up cutting around things. ;-)
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(And you want to avoid green reflecting on the side or that'll get cut out by accident!)
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Somebody asked if I could come up with a green screen; I believe it was on this forum. Well the Blackadder isn't anything if he isn't obliging so I went out and bought some green screen material and a set of LED track lights (Big bucks..) and spent the weekend learning how to photoshop green screen and now you tell me I don't need green screen Arrgh! Bring me the head of Anvildude
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Post by: Anvildude
Heh.
The reason for the 'green' is because green is not often used in costuming and such- or rather, that shade isn't. What you can do with this green-screen'd picture is use a photo-manip program (GIMP or Photoshop or whatever) and use a Color-Select that is looking for all the connected green in the shade range that includes the shadows, and replace that. You'd also want another layer that takes the green reflections that appear on the Titan itself and re-color those to work with the implaced background.
Of course, you need to pick a background image with lighting that matches the lighting on the Titan as well, so it doesn't look out of place. That's the biggest cause of 'obvious green-screen' out there- non-matching lighting.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
"Heh" Huh!
I was looking to buy track lights anyway I needed an overhead light source in the corner I take my photos in.
The green screen was $10 bucks for ten sheets of poster paper
Day glow green; a small outlay.
So what can you do with what I've posted? I presume you have the necessary program to manipulate the image.
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Post by: Anvildude
GIMP is free.
I'd probably be able to do some simple cut'n'paste- problem is, I've not been trained in how to determine lighting angles in still images and all that, so I can't really do everything I was talking about, with matching light sources and all that.
But I could see about getting your Titan in a wasteland, battlefield or cityscape.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Nickeled and Dimed:
Another FW tease displaying tantalizing bitz and pieces of the forthcoming Warlord titan. No Hollywood starlet ever received better hype regardless of the size of her guns.
You can tell by the painted areas that the titan is ready for display and FW is just milking this for all it's worth.
Meanwhile since I already have a titan of sorts I can use these images to enhance the detail on my own construct...
So there FW eat your hearts out; yours is only an attenuated Mars pattern also ran. Ha!
Whom I kidding I've already mortgaged the abode to get one of these.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
I think I will just build a couple of them.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Black, have you not continued the Cool-Mini-Or-Not Blog? I am asking because over the course of the next two weeks I am clearing back projects and will be starting my Warlord/Imperator Projects. I have sizing concerns. I am interested in what you would think of making an Imperator from the basic frame and chassis of a Warlord. Of course, adding beef in suspension for the added weight. I wonder this because there doesn't seem to be that massive a size difference in the two in the area of height at head, waist, knees, so on, etc. Could it be that the Imperator would be just retrofitted Warlord? Much in the same way the original Knights had three different frames but were loaded out for different combat roles?
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Post by: The_Blackadder
I'm in the process of PM'ing 'wargamesculptor' on 'cool mini' as I received your post on an unrelated to 40K issue. Personally I would hold off on any large titan work until the FW Warlord is released; there seems to be drastic sized reductions in the offing. Since FW seems dedicated to Mars Pattern issues, I am studying the feasibility of a Lucius Warmonger titan myself based on the Epic Lucius Imperator.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
I like the Warmonger. Noted on the waiting. I need a couple weeks for planning anyway.
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Don't know if I can wait til spring....
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 mxwllmdr wrote:I like the Warmonger. Noted on the waiting. I need a couple weeks for planning anyway.
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Don't know if I can wait til spring....
Spring???
I think Dakka² owes me a debt of gratitude bringing the erstwhile Mxwlldr back to the fold.
You only need a couple of weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Well, you are why I am rejuvenated. Been needing it though.
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Post by: Rawson
The_Blackadder wrote:
I think Dakka² owes me a debt of gratitude bringing the erstwhile Mxwlldr back to the fold.
Granted
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Black, that Mars toe: I reckon it at about 1 3\4" wide by 2 1\2" long and app. 1" tall. Your weigh in?
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Correct me if I am wrong but the same toe on Luteus is around 2x2"?
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This by comparison would leave the entirety of the foot pad disc at just around three inches, if I am close.
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Black. I've had an epiphany. I can make your foot design work with all parts being capable of being molded and resin casted. I'll get some good design drawings done and put them up on my page. I really need your input on this. I have decided to try this at your scale for the sake of the interior detail. FW be damned..
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Judging by the scale of the SM compared to the center disc I'm figuring the disc is about 3.5 inches which is in the same ballpark as my Warlord.
The head came out today so it looks like a breach birth.......
I'm pleased with the overall shape of the head but the size is a concern. Obviously there must be a 3 man cockpit crew so it has to be bigger than the Reaver head. The 'Face' is long rather than squat like the Reaver so I see a lot of the Dave Smith version and my own. In the FW tradition the cockpit helmet comes off to reveal the interior; I guess it's just a case of wait and see how the sizes compare.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Ooooh. That is pretty.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Meh!
I have to say after all the hype the debut poster is rather uninspired:
The painting is pretty mediocre and the model looks like all the recent gangling Mars kniggets that FW has been offering.
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A real image in the flesh, er, resin...........
albeit with an alternate Helmet.............
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Post by: master of asgard
Based on that last photo, how does yours match up size-wise? I've got to say I prefer yours: the angular Warlord beats the beetleback every time for me!
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Looks like an oversized rever in many aspects, not impressed.
We can do better, Black.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
It all depends whether the figure shown is a Space Marine which i think/hope it is so the height of the titan is ≈ 26 inches tall; slightly shorter than my Warlord which stands ≈ 27 inches tall depending on pose. Automatically Appended Next Post: mxwllmdr wrote:Looks like an oversized rever in many aspects, not impressed.
We can do better, Black.
My thoughts exactly, it just looks like a larger Reaver.
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Post by: Tyr13
Its not even worth comparing yours with FW's offering... your Warlord looks so much better, its not even funny...
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 Tyr13 wrote:Its not even worth comparing yours with FW's offering... your Warlord looks so much better, its not even funny...
Thank you; but Mine doesn't have a veranda for dining alfresco.............
http://i.imgur.com/ivSMmRT.jpg
I never would have thought of that. Ha!
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Post by: granander
Well, the back is way cooler than the front from what I can tell...
Have they made a full interior?
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 granander wrote:Well, the back is way cooler than the front from what I can tell...
Have they made a full interior?
I was just given the link to about twenty images of which this was one.
http://recalcitrantdaze.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warhammer-world-reopening-forge-world.html
I have an image of the cockpit but not the interior.
A single occupant in the cockpit which is rather disappointing, even the Warhound and Reaver has a 3 man crew.
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Post by: Grey Templar
It is a little silly when you think about it.
You don't want your pilot in an obviously target-able spot.
I always viewed the larger titans as having their crew in the torso with the "head" just being a place for the main sensor banks. The Principes is safe in his amniotic tank in the center of the titan.
The warhound I understand having everyone in the head due to space concerns.
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Post by: hk1x1
It would of been nice if they'd done something closer in design to your one,
this just looks like a giant Imperial Knight.
That said though, the detail on the back is just gorgeous.
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Post by: granander
Yes, the one man crew is pretty lame, I like your setup much better.
Thank god they have fixed them weak a-- feet btw...
I really do hope they have made a full interior, but I doubt it's close to the detailing you put into it.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
So..... get on that..... Automatically Appended Next Post: Honestly I can believe the smilarities between this and the reaver.....
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Well I've already set my sights on purchasing one; second mortgaged the homestead, volunteered the kids for scientific experiments and set the missus on door to door solicitation; so mebbe I can make a few amendments.
After all I do have a modicum of experience correcting FW's deficiencies........
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Post by: fiorehellheart
I don't think it's a crew of one, the image you have is taken too low down, there are two moderati in there, just set lower down than the princeps. There's a much blurrier picture somewhere that shows them.
My main concern with this titan looking like a knight is in the armour plates. All panel lines and silly numbers of rivets. If you compare this to the mars warhound, then it's pretty clear they're done by different designers. Great model, but too different for me to like. Still want to buy one though...
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Post by: granander
 fiorehellheart wrote:I don't think it's a crew of one, the image you have is taken too low down, there are two moderati in there, just set lower down than the princeps. There's a much blurrier picture somewhere that shows them.
Roger that! If you find it please post or link since it got me curious.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
fiorehellheart wrote:I don't think it's a crew of one, the image you have is taken too low down, there are two moderati in there, just set lower down than the princeps. There's a much blurrier picture somewhere that shows them.............
If you can find it, post it because the way it looks now they're either doin' a Lewinsky on the Princep or they're not there............
.......... Still want to buy one though...
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Post by: fiorehellheart
Like I said, blurry, but I think you can just about make them out at the bottom. I think it's such a wasted oppourtunity though, could have had a much better interior.
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Post by: Grey Templar
Wow, you can just barely see their bald little heads popping up there. The glare is semi-obscuring them too.
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Post by: Gogsnik
Obviously they have based this on the early Space Marine Warlord Titan models, rather than the more 'recent' metal Epic 40,000 one we are all more familiar with. I wonder why they did that? Could this be a Horus Heresy Warlord? The single occupant head makes no sense to me either, these things are supposed to have a somewhat open bridge area. Weird...
EDIT: missed the shot with the additional crew, still far too cramped though from how they are described in novels et cetera.
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Post by: Grey Templar
My guess is its artistic license so they can show the crew without having to create this huge diorama inside the titan itself.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
For what they are likely charging for this I want a large diorama setting throughout the interior.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
fiorehellheart wrote:
Like I said, blurry, but I think you can just about make them out at the bottom. I think it's such a wasted opportunity though, could have had a much better interior.
Well jeez that's pitiful ; it's like they (the designers) didn't even try. Not to applaud myself but I worked quite a bit trying to make a plausible cockpit design...
Considering FWs resources they could have tried to do at least this good!
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Post by: granander
Yes, good to see that they actually have 3 people in there since 1 would just have been silly. But as stated before by others, I am not impressed. :(
These threads are making me VERY tempted to start my own scratchbuild. Perhaps something smaller
Btw, am I the only one annoyed by people using the word scratch build when they mean kit bash of heavily modified standard kit? For me a proper scratch build is the pinnacle of modelling where gluing ready made parts together are not. On the other hand, Weeble1000 use a lot of ready made parts in his builds but the major part is always of his own making, so he is definitely doing scratch builds... sorry for the ramble.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
I'm not above using an interesting bit of plastic in my models and to be sure FW liberally incorporates bitz from any and all GW kits in their constructs. A good way to break into scratch building is to modify an existing kit or model and gradually start replacing worn or broken parts with hand made facsimiles; that is how I began.
My pet peeve is the use of bottle caps where that is exactly what they appear to be, bottle caps. Nothing detracts from a well executed 'scratch build' than blatantly obvious ketchup bottle caps as Dave Smith used in his otherwise fabulous Warlord.
My Warlord is about as scratch as you can get and still be able to complete in a reasonable amount of time. My Thunderhawk which I am completing up this week is almost totally 'scratch built' but even there I used mouthwash bottle caps for the exhausts and ping pong balls for the ball turrets albeit heavily modified.
Models made for SiFi movies rely heavily on plastic model kits for the onscreen models whether those qualify for "Scratch built" is a debatable issue.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
The original Battlestar Galactica Model was constructed entirely out of parts from over 200 different WWII Era vehicle and aircraft models purchased solely for that purpose.
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Post by: granander
mxwllmdr wrote:The original Battlestar Galactica Model was constructed entirely out of parts from over 200 different WWII Era vehicle and aircraft models purchased solely for that purpose.
Hehe, still a question if it's a kitbash or a scratchbuild... can still be awesome though
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Post by: fiorehellheart
So It's definitely 3 guys inside. Vegeta365 on warsee bought one of them yesterday, and is building it now. I've asked him for pics, but he hasn't posted much apart from one picture of the gun compared to a reaver gun, and one of the cockpit from above. The moderati are really set into a tiny pit at the front, really weird use of space given how much room is in the back where the moderati is.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?407953-Warlord-Titan-coming-from-FW/page18/
Images:
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Post by: The_Blackadder
fiorehellheart wrote:So It's definitely 3 guys inside. Vegeta365 on warsee bought one of them yesterday, and is building it now. I've asked him for pics, but he hasn't posted much apart from one picture of the gun compared to a reaver gun, and one of the cockpit from above. The moderati are really set into a tiny pit at the front, really weird use of space given how much room is in the back where the moderati is.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?407953-Warlord-Titan-coming-from-FW/page18/
I' gotta know the sizes, the suspense is wearing on me. ask him to PLEASE take some measurements especially how tall it is?
I'm sure everyone would like to know that FW didn't screw up and make it undersized and by tall I mean sole of the foot to the top of the generator shield housings not the carapace weapons.
Thanks for the Warseer link.
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Post by: fiorehellheart
So the height finally got measured by 'looky likey' here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1110/639757.page
He says 23 to topmost parts, and 20 to carapace top and width/depth 17. I put those measurements into a scale comparison based on what I think are the accurate measurements of the other titans. I used a picture of the warlord from a poster they had, so it's in the same orthographic rather than perspective view, many of the photo's of the model were too skewed. That helps massively with scaling, and assuming this is reasonable, I actually think that this isn't too bad. The model is clearly way way bulkier which is nice. Also on my mock up the heads of the warlord and reaver are similar sizes so that agrees with the three person head. Still too much of a knight in style, but it's growing on me...
EDIT:
So after doing this I was intrigued how it scales up against the titan that you built, and the one that I designed. I scaled your's to 26", which I think is right, but could be wrong. It's also tricky as it's perspective skewed a little. Until this I hadn't realised how similar a scale your titan is to the one I wanted to make. Both are significantly larger than the forgeworld one, however, the scale that ours is at is quite a jump from the reaver they have, which I think is smaller than it should be.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
My Warlord soles to top of generator housing = 27 inches, damn no way I can justify 5 inch discrepancy unless I stretch the torso on the FW stunted Hercules. You've done outstanding and I appreciate the effort. Thank your friend for me.
I've just saved myself $2000 bucks!
Why am I not happy?
BTW would it be amiss for me to offer a suggestion on your Warlord?
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Post by: fiorehellheart
Ahh, bit off then. I think if you wanted to upscale theirs, the way to go would be in lengthening the legs by a inch or so each segment, adding more height to the waist, and in the middle of the torse. Adding 3 inches would bring it to a place where it's smaller.
I had a go at this actually, only stretching the armour plates on the legs. The body is the same size as it was. I also upped your's by the inch I missed.
I still want a real model comparison though. All good trying to guess, but could still be off.
Suggestion wise, go ahead, given how dead in the water my physical model progress is, I'm open to suggestions on reworking things. I was actually intending to re-do my 3d files once again, except in a program that's made for precision design, as opposed to the rough stuff I previously used. What were you thinking of?
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Post by: The_Blackadder
There you go, with just a little effort your middle figure demonstrated a much more appealing Titan; a stretch version if you will.
I'm in complete agreement and loathe this new tangent FW has initiated. When the first knights appeared I thought them an interesting group style and they did have a certain appeal but they certainly shouldn't dominate the overall design of all the classes of vehicles. From a distance without a reference for scale it is difficult to recognize Reavers and now Warlords from any of the knight variants. I strongly suspect that the Titans as a group came into being because of the 'Epic' scale figures and the desire to have humanoid shaped larger figures to play the game. The Titans filled that need but the classes were all distinct and original in shape not just different sizes of the same design.
I think FW is just either getting lazy in their design department or has just run out of ideas.
First they need an infusion of new blood and second they need to re-embrace the sorely neglected Lucius Pattern equipment.
Plus the Damned thing is just too small.
Now for the suggestion and it's just my personal opinion not a criticism. I think your armour needs to be more trapezoidal instead of square. If you look at the FW Warlord and mine (Dave Smith's) design they incorporate virtually no 90° angles which tend to lend too boxy an appearance to the vehicle. Of course this make replication more difficult as all the curves are now of necessity compound but I feel it would make your design more aesthetically pleasing. Just IMO.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
fiorehellheart
Where'd you get this image? Will you post it? Sans lines..........
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Post by: Co'tor Shas
Maybe you should apply.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
No. Black. I can make their new warlord. Compound curves be damned. I choose not to because it's a site design.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
mxwllmdr wrote:No. Black. I can make their new warlord. Compound curves be damned. I choose not to because it's a site design.
"Site design;" what's a site design?????????
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Post by: mxwllmdr
It auto corrected. gak.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
mxwllmdr wrote:No. Black. I can make their new warlord. Compound curves be damned. I choose not to because it's a site design.
mxwllmdr wrote:It auto corrected. gak.
Well I may be as thick as a whale omelet but I'm totally at sea with these responses? It's dogtrack time apparently for the Blackadder.............
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Post by: fiorehellheart
The pictures from here. http://battlebunnies.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warlord-titan-poster.html I'm hoping there's a version of it in the book that somebody might upload, for a much nicer image.
I think you are right on the angularness of the armour. Doing my design digitally I find it really tricky to make compund curves. The new software should help with that. I also think that it's not helped with the leg pose in that image, and a frontward view negating the curves on the shoulders. I should splay the legs a little like yours for a more stable looking stance and less square.
Also, on that site with the poster are more photo's showing the interior of the head and the princeps. Images in the spoiler.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
The_Blackadder wrote:Of course this make replication more difficult as all the curves are now of necessity compound....
Apologies. This to what I was referring.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Okay I think I understand what you are alluding to; As the Fiore Flashheart model is presented, the pose and the overall projection (It may not be the case in the actual model) appears too square and wooden (i have felt this from the beginning but who am I to pass judgment on someone else's work especially one whose credentials are as impressive as Monsieur Flashheart's. The Mars armour and stance is more organic having compound curves and a more rounded appearance. Now compound curves are extremely hard to replicate and I have hesitated in attempting them myself. (someday but not yet.) A general observation of mine is that I have yet to see a convincing compound curved carapace even the legendary Marco de Silva's marvelous scratchbuilt Warhound.
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Yes. I agree. I just keep trying.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Just so you know I'm not blowing smoke here's Senor's De Silva's almost perfect handmade Mars Warhound: 
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Post by: mxwllmdr
I know his work well. I've tried mimicking and failed in many aspects.
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Post by: Anvildude
fiorehellheart wrote:
I think you are right on the angularness of the armour. Doing my design digitally I find it really tricky to make compund curves. The new software should help with that. I also think that it's not helped with the leg pose in that image, and a frontward view negating the curves on the shoulders. I should splay the legs a little like yours for a more stable looking stance and less square.
Which program are you using again? A lot of digital design stuff has 2 ways of creating things- plonking down 'objects' which tend to be geometric shapes, or using 'curves' and 'surfaces' (usually with the words 'NURBS' or 'Bezier' with them), which allow for much more organic shape creation.
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Post by: fiorehellheart
Anvildude wrote:
Which program are you using again? A lot of digital design stuff has 2 ways of creating things- plonking down 'objects' which tend to be geometric shapes, or using 'curves' and 'surfaces' (usually with the words 'NURBS' or 'Bezier' with them), which allow for much more organic shape creation.
I had previously been using blender. It's built a lot more for a full render, rig, texture and animate workflow, and can do nurbs surfaces. I never actually learnt how to use thme though as they always seemed quite unwieldy. What I am now using is Rhino, which handles curves so much better. I've only been using it a few days and in the past half hour decided to have a go at making the reaver titan carapace, to see how well It managed those kinds of curves. It's way way easier and does what I want it to do. The model itself isnt amazingly accurate, but it does have the same curvature to it.
Images in spoiler tag again, Don't want to fill up Blackadder's thread with my pics.
Using this I think I should be able to get away from the blockyness that blackadder talks about. I think that I don't mind it being quite square, but I do think that it's better with smoother curves and more advanced shapes giving it less of that rigidity.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
I'm a bit at a loss trying to figure out why the necessity of drawing out the figure; do you print and cutout patterns, templates, &etc? It seems like a lot of extra work when the visuals are already available on the internet some of which are already in 3D.
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Post by: fiorehellheart
The reaver was just me seeing if I could replicate the more complicated shapes that I couldn't do in my old program.
I think my compulsive building of the 3d models is because I don't have the space to make them practically. I also enjoy the 3d modelling itself, but as a tool it lets me visualise the model that I have half pictured in my head, and work on its design, without needing to spend the much larger amount of time it would take me to build it from plasticard. When I get around to building them though it does let me create accurate templates.
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Post by: Anvildude
Not to mention, when 3d printers become ubiquitous, the forms are already there ready to be printed.
I'm a Blender guy myself. I'll admit that Blender doesn't handle curves and surfaces quite as intuitively as other programs, though- heck, even Lightwave does curves better.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Anvildude wrote:Not to mention, when 3d printers become ubiquitous, the forms are already there ready to be printed. I'm a Blender guy myself. I'll admit that Blender doesn't handle curves and surfaces quite as intuitively as other programs, though- heck, even Lightwave does curves better.
Yet another reason for me to not render my Warlord into 3D; Ha! Automatically Appended Next Post: F**k this auto append!!!! My Two Cents: There's nothing wrong with buying models, I've bought many in my time but the cost of models and resin models in particular has skyrocketed over the past few years and something must be done (at least in my case 'cause my kids gotta eat....) to offset the dollar drain. I offered an alternative and try to show what can be done when your budget won't allow dumping thousands of hard earned dollars on miniatures. A good case in point are the incredible Russian 40K forums that specialize in paper craft; producing high quality FW models out of paper. I learned a lot from joining those sites and believe me many of the artists there would put any one of us to shame with their skill at reproducing models indistinguishable for the resin originals. Now FW has offered what I consider a pretty mediocre $2000 dollar Warlord capitalizing on their name and rep. The model is nothing more than an undersized up scaled 'Knight' titan with very little innovation and imagination in it's execution and presentation (cripes couldn't they show it as a side by side with a Reaver and Warhound???? They wouldn't dare because it's too small!!! A minimum of 26 inches by their own formula is the requisite size for a Warlord and theirs computes 3 inches deficient.......). I'm thankful that I built my own Warlord but had they offered a reasonable production Mars Warlord uncompromised in size and grandeur I would have had my order in already.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
E.L.M.E.R. Gantry: I've been thinking of making a base for my titans ever since I built them instead putting them on a shelf. I was walking past a neighbor's house the other day and they were throwing out one of those cheap plastic shelf units and there it was, the perfect setting for my titans with room enough for three. http://i.imgur.com/XXzuZ9F.jpg  The unit is tall enough to accommodate the Warlord with swing away arms overhead cranes and with a few girders, and staircases, safety rails, and intermediate maintenance platforms this could make the ideal display stand /display case. http://i.imgur.com/XUz53ZD.jpg  With lighting, maintenance vehicles, and personnel this could be quite a focal point in my den. http://i.imgur.com/v1LCohL.jpg  Now I need a group of descriptive words for the acronym E.L.M.E.R. Any ideas?
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Elevated large machine evaluation and repair bay.
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E.L.M.E.R. Bay.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
mxwllmdr wrote:Elevated large machine evaluation and repair bay.
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E.L.M.E.R. Bay.
Oh that's good but we don't need 'bay' as it's a Gantry
I was thinking along the lines of 40K machine god and Empire Leagos Mechanicus but I like your's very much. So what do you think of the concept?
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Post by: Dr H
So, you're going to turn a set of shelves, on which you will store your titans, into a maintenance area diorama?
I'm sold. Do it.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
It was only last week I purchased some Evergreen "I" beams with the thought of starting to build the gantry and these shelves give me a ready made head start.
Decked out with 40K machinery and icons etc plus the very technical aspect of the decks already; I think it could be an imposing structure plus I really want a walkway to that rear door and some maintenance guy on a scaffold cleaning the cockpit windscreens. Ha!
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Post by: master of asgard
Lol you're crazy mate, in the best possible way! If anything she deserves the best.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Everybody says "In a good way" must be so...
Got it:
EXTRAVEHICULAR LEGIOS MECHANICUS EVALUATION & REPAIR Gantry
Thanks for all the suggestions, I got the two 'E's '&'
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Post by: mxwllmdr
Yes. Go with yours. Love the concept.
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Post by: MagosBiff90
What an original.. yet totally bonkers idea! .... again...... "in a good way"
I have scenes and images from the "Space Marine" console game in my head now. I m sure you wont need it but having a look at the "invictus" stage of the game might throw out some useful ideas...
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 MagosBiff90 wrote:What an original.. yet totally bonkers idea! .... again...... "in a good way" I have scenes and images from the "Space Marine" console game in my head now. I m sure you wont need it but having a look at the "invictus" stage of the game might throw out some useful ideas...
I haven't looked at the SM Invictus video for quite some time but I seem to recall large overhead crane hooks and cables suspended from tracks on the ceiling of the VAB and umbilical cables and stage walkways leading to various areas of 'Invictus' which might work. What I need is 28 MM maintenance personnel and vehicles to augment the diorama. Anyone have a source suggestion?
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Post by: The_Blackadder
 master of asgard wrote:http://www.forgeworld.co. uk/Warhammer-40000/Titans/TITAN_CREW_ON_FOOT.html
Pricey, but food for thought
Thanks for all your work.
Finally a comparison shot and thank you. It's what I have always thought since first seeing the new titan (and pretty much the mistake I made when I did a concept study of my Warlord in scrap plastic paneling):
Written 2010/8/16 when I had just started my Lucius Warlord...........
Whew, were has the summer gone? I had hopes of rendering the basic structure and working on the detail this winter but no such luck plus there are serious errors in scale comparing the the body to the legs and waist. Just to prove the Blackadder is as fallible as they come here is my effort thus far ridiculously out of proportion. The legs are easily 2 to 4 inches too short and the model as it stands is only 19 inches tall. By adding 4 inches to the legs and topping the carapace with the void shield generator housings that should bring it to the goal height of 28 inches.
The difference is I recognized my mistake.
When I build this ( The FW Warlord) I shall lengthen the legs at least 3 inches..........
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Post by: fiorehellheart
The_Blackadder wrote:
When I build this ( The FW Warlord) I shall lengthen the legs at least 3 inches..........
So you expect to buy one despite your misgivings about it?
Are you intending to re-plate it in Lucious style akin to the work on your Reavers?
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Post by: The_Blackadder
No, since I already have the definitive Lucius Warlord I'm going to keep it as a Mars because I like the intricacy of the FW kit. I have someone that will be giving me dimensions as he builds the new kit beginning this weekend and if the main armament barrels are not too small I shall probably be buying a kit. It all hinges on those dimensions. It was your comparison that put me onto stretching the legs which will bring the FW Titan into the range of my Warlord BTW. Automatically Appended Next Post: F'n auto append! E.L.M.E.R. Gantry: I took a week of to arrange my work area as things were getting pretty messy with all the projects going at once and I was rapidly running out of work space. I did manage to cut out the intermediate deck of the E.L.M.E.R. Gantry (EXTRAVEHICULAR LEGIOS MECHANICUS EVALUATION & REPAIR Gantry) to receive the fully assembled Warlord; the gantry takes up all my paint work table space and hopefully when finished will provide both a display diorama fitting for such a construct plus a safe container to house the model in in one piece rather than separate the hull from the legs to prevent toppling as I do now. http://i.imgur.com/atyfd1n.jpg  Something seems wrong with the focus on my camera but in the images presented ther is the new beginning of the command deck hologram tactical display plus a Space Marine for scale. http://i.imgur.com/zaIi3OR.jpg 
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Post by: Vintersorg
Can't remember if was posted before, but you might enjoy this, Blackadder.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Thanks, is that the removal of the Princep from the Warlord head sketch? I seem to recall seeing it somewhere before.
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Post by: Vintersorg
The princeps is walking out on his on legs =).
In that picture they are just repairing battle damage.
Both images are from Adeptus Titanicus, the 1988 game.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
That's not the Princep on the lifesupport crèche slightly left of center?
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Post by: Vintersorg
Nah, it's the repairing crew. The princeps is walking down the stairs.
Apparently the design has remained pretty much the same until now.
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Some Thoughts on My Warlord Titan Hangar:
The following is in answer to a post on another forum but it pretty well delineates my intentions regarding this construction:
Granted in it's initial state being fresh (Ahem; figuratively speaking) out of the recycling bin it is little more than a set of cheap plastic shelves but yes I am going to add beam mounted e.g.
four way overhead track traveling cranes with electromagnetic lifting heads (Rare earth magnets) on all four levels for moving heavy components.
and:
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Plus catwalks aplenty, recessed tracks for small cranes, and hangar support vehicles, oodles of suitable pseudo-religious 40K artifacts, tech priest enclaves, and I'm hoping to find 28 MM ground maintenance personnel and a few Sentinel Heavy Lifters to dress up the hangar.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.............
Don't forget, my Lucius Warlord was once just so many styrene sheets and recycled bottlecaps... Ha!
My goal is to make a stable display stand/diorama for my titan to be stored in when not in play as while it does have the capability of standing unaided for days on end it has toppled over on occasion incurring time consuming repairs. I'd prefer not to have to be continually rebuilding it. Plus this will make a handy storage/display area for my other two titans as well.
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Post by: Anvildude
Um, what the heck happened with your post? There's like, 3 or 4 identical posts all mixed together here like a badly shuffled deck of cards.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Check it out now I recopied and pasted the post as it was written.
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Post by: Anvildude
There we go. Much less.. strange.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
An Interesting Image:
Found this comparison image on the internet and superimposed the skulls which are virtually the same size.
One might extrapolate based on this image that the Lucius Warlord stands taller than the Mars by a considerable amount.
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Post by: MagosBiff90
The_Blackadder wrote:An Interesting Image:
Found this comparison image on the internet and superimposed the skulls which are virtually the same size.
One might extrapolate based on this image that the Lucius Warlord stands taller than the Mars by a considerable amount.
IMHO this could quite easily be a plausible explanation! Forge worlds light years apart.... and potentially thousands of years following the development of the Mars pattern...... it would seem fine that they look to improve on the original STC design... maybe to combat or counter against a specific threat posed in that sector of space...?
Slightly off topic and just my thoughts..... but the Lucius pattern is certainly the better-er-er of the 2 patterns. Somehing about the square armour and heavier box look that just makes it more believable for me! ......
Love the ideas for the hanger bay... limitless possibilities! Maybe even lifts / passenger elevators within the main structure of the "shelves" ....
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Post by: Anvildude
I think the issue with the Mars pattern is that those sorts of curved, organic shapes don't really upscale very well. It's more and more difficult to get large curves surfaces from single pieces as you get bigger, and the Mars' armour plates are all smooth, single pieces. The Lucius' armour is properly segmented, and angular plates are a lot easier to manufacture at that scale.
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Post by: Commander Cain
For inspiration for the hanger I would look no further than the one featured in the Space Marine videogame. Not only does it look suitably impressive but already fits with the description you gave for it. I'm sure there is a YouTube clip of the scene somewhere for more angles but I cannot seem to find it anywhere...
More pics:
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Post by: lliu
That's very nice! Check out the warlord titan on Forgeworld's website.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
yeah I did a pre-order and managed to 'f' it up somehow and ended up ordering $14 thousand dollars worth of FW Warlords.. fortunately I was able to cancel the order but it made for a very intense couple of days.........
Auto Focus Failure
There is something wrong with my camera's auto focus
http://i.imgur.com/xpqhJjB.jpg
But these two images convey the gist of the subject at hand namely the priming of the Gantry so with another camera later on I shall be presenting the cranes and paraphernalia requisite for a heavy equipment maintenance area.
http://i.imgur.com/8CIMIkB.jpg
Right now with the overall gantry primed gray I think it shows off Luteus in a fine setting for display purposes
http://i.imgur.com/LNvYtEZ.jpg
Providing of course you have oodles of empty space in your "Man Cave"....Ha!
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Post by: insaniak
Lovely work on the titan... but that storage shelf gantry is just genius!
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Post by: Theophony
The_Blackadder wrote:yeah I ended up ordering $14 thousand dollars worth of FW Warlords.
Providing of course you have oodles of empty space in your "Man Cave"....Ha!
That's how I read your post. Then spent time with the wife......living vicariously through your mistake 
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Post by: Valhalla130
I really want to see this gantry completed. If you put half the effort into it that you put into the Titan, we're going to see a diorama that could fit in a museum.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Valhalla130 wrote:I really want to see this gantry completed. If you put half the effort into it that you put into the Titan, we're going to see a diorama that could fit in a museum.
U R too kind; I really just want to show my signature piece off to it's best advantage. I've never been 'in love' with such a model before. Even 'Lucie' my Warhound did not evoke such feelings but this thing is so big that I am overwhelmed by it's presence. It's a pity that Dave Smith never got back to me that I could thank him for the inspiration because after all it was his titan that promulgated Luteus Vexant.
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 Theophony wrote: The_Blackadder wrote:yeah I ended up ordering $14 thousand dollars worth of FW Warlords.
Providing of course you have oodles of empty space in your "Man Cave"....Ha!
That's how I read your post. Then spent time with the wife......living vicariously through your mistake
How apropos that you spent time in 'flagrante delicto' with your significant other reliving my panic at the thought of putting myself into bankruptcy over 7 seven (Count'em) FW Warlord Titans when I could ill afford even one!
Fortunately FW took pity on me and cancelled my erroneous order yet Paypal decimated my checking acct for two days before I could straighten out the mess.
I lost countless years of my life in anxiety before I set the situation straight. ( Not so "Ha! this time.) E.B.
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Post by: lliu
Ooooh... I want to see the Warlord painted!
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Post by: Zuul
Wow, that sounds like a hefty nightmare.
The display/storage is coming along nicely. I imagine some maintenance cherry pickers would kick it up a notch.
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Post by: Freytag93
The_Blackadder wrote:yeah I did a pre-order and managed to 'f' it up somehow and ended up ordering $14 thousand dollars worth of FW Warlords.. fortunately I was able to cancel the order but it made for a very intense couple of days.........
Wow, that is a bit more than an oops...
On the bright side, after selling your house to afford $14,000 worth of titans, you could build a new house out of that huge pile of resin.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Back To the Warlord:
While I am designing the T'hawk cockpit interior I ran across my Tech priests for the Warlord. I'd forgotten I made these to go in the upper gallery of the Warlord interior in the altar area.
http://i.imgur.com/x6jTfb8.jpg
Since then I made a few priest consoles and added a FW production Tech Enginseer.
http://i.imgur.com/VV8Pw7i.jpg
The problem with you Blackadder is, "You can't paint!"
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Four Images of A Warlord:
My new toy, a mini Ipad has become my favorite camera; at least for desktop photos. The trouble is in transferring to my PC. because the Apple doesn't like my PC for some reason and keeps asking if I want to allow access. Life is HARD!
Anyway, four images of the new interior lights of the cockpit. and they're all pretty much the same but what the hey, I'll post them all.
http://i.imgur.com/U12KntO.jpg
What irritates me is I can see the crew in the cockpit but the camera doesn't.
http://i.imgur.com/PVwYxYp.jpg
I like the battle scars in this closeup
http://i.imgur.com/kRaAzfL.jpg
I like this low angle view because it shows the upper engineering deck through the blast doors. which normally can't be seen with the chest armour in place.
http://i.imgur.com/xFOtD0J.jpg
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Hopelessly Outclassed
I'm Afraid my Warlord will be hopelessly outclassed by this new addition to my Titan Stable which I project to be half again taller than the Warlord. About 40 inches tall or one Meter if you are into an inhumane system of measurement.
http://i.imgur.com/sdcsfvH.jpg
My new Workshop arrangement is better able to display my creations as I build which makes for a more inspiring atmosphere.
Spur me along as it were.
http://i.imgur.com/OVDi3BC.jpg
Sitting at the computer having these two staring down at me is a bit disconcerting. Almost accusatory in their gaze seeming to say, Get busy and finish this up.
http://i.imgur.com/Eqn6RlT.jpg
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Post by: Moltar
Nice! Glad to see you back at work.
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Post by: The_Blackadder
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Amazing stuff, where are those tech priests from?
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Post by: The_Blackadder
Resting On One's Laurels:
Before I get too smug and self-satisfied I just repaired the interior of my Warlord. and I was surprised at the lengths my OCD drove me three or so years ago. As I contemplate doing an interior for my Emperor Titan I thought I'd refresh myself on my previous construction.
Over the years the glue had lost it's grip on the aluminum impregnated wall coatings I used for much of this model inside and out and pieces were rattling around inside. I found some two decks down in the Engineering bay.
Anyway once all put together I fired up the interior lighting (surprisingly it all functioned) and took these images so I don't have to disassemble it again until when and if I decide to upgrade the paint.
So here's five pictures of the Command deck and Tech Priest balcony replete with Altar to the Machine God, Omnissiah.
https://i.imgur.com/5UBXtI5.jpg
Starting with the egress to the Command deck through the entry port.
https://i.imgur.com/HPVuC9K.jpg
I don't know if I've posted these or not other than in the construction phase. Most certainly not on Facebook or any of the new forums I frequent.
https://i.imgur.com/hoygzJW.jpg
The upper left Gallery and a view of the Altar
https://i.imgur.com/oUGghoP.jpg
and the right Gallery.......
https://i.imgur.com/A8Oame4.jpg
I've gotta straighten that railing.............
Never mind the railing Blackadder; What about that bloody great hole in the deck?
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Yeah, that's phenomenal... my jaw hurts as it keeps hitting the floor.
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