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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 15:17:29
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Volcano Cannons. Automatically Appended Next Post: His BoLS interview
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 15:20:43
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Kabalite Conscript
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this guy looks epic! can't wait to see more!
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- 2000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 15:32:17
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Volcano cannons iirc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 15:44:59
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Do you have the warlord datasheet?
Just wondering whether youre gonna copy the guns directly too. Although tbf, they are the best weapons for titans, Strength D rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 16:22:04
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Yeah I read the interview but the caliber of the Volcano cannon on the Shadowsword is 4mm tops and this gun has what appears to be in excess of 25 mm. So how can it be classified as a Volcano cannon as well? Do they have different hit points?
Bear with me I know nothing about the game; I just build 'em because I like the hardware. My son's the player.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 16:23:32
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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The_Blackadder wrote:Yeah I read the interview but the caliber of the Volcano cannon on the Shadowsword is 4mm tops and this gun has what appears to be in excess of 25 mm. So how can it be classified as a Volcano cannon as well? Do they have different hit points?
Bear with me I know nothing about the game; I just build 'em because I like the hardware. My son's the player.
As the weapon gains in size it also gains in power and range. The Emperor titants Volcano Cannon is even more deadly...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Shadowsword rules: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2440065_Imperial_Guard_Datasheet_-_Shadowsword.pdf
Emperor titan rules: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2440056_Imperial_Datasheet_-_Emperor_Battle_Titan.pdf
the way I see it is, the Volcano Cannon has a destructive capacity which is capped/limited by the reactors capacity. so the bigger the engine, the bigger the boom
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 17:40:33
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Do they even make a turbo laser that big?
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 17:47:46
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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I think Turbo lasers are a standardised weapon, retaining the same output and size no matter what its mounted on. Turbo lasers become carapace weapons on both the Warlord and Emperor titans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 17:57:46
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Vitruvian XVII wrote:Do you have the warlord datasheet? Just wondering whether you're gonna copy the guns directly too. Although tbf, they are the best weapons for titans, Strength D rules. Yeah I'm going to copy the guns just as they are I can't improve on perfection. These guns wil be easily dismount-able I'll innovate the next pair. I want to do a Hellstorm cannon.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 18:04:48
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Ruthless Rafkin
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The_Blackadder wrote:What roof would you like to fall from?
The Playboy Mansion's roof, straight into the pool.
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-Loki- wrote:
40k is about slamming two slegdehammers together and hoping the other breaks first. Malifaux is about fighting with scalpels trying to hit select areas and hoping you connect more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 18:07:47
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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The_Blackadder wrote:Okay I should know this but what are these guns on the DS titan called? It has two Volcano Cannons on the arm gimbles, and two sets of Double Barreled Turbo Laser Destructors on the carapace. The Volcano Cannons are, Str: D, Ap: 2, Ordinance: 1, 10 Inch Apocalyptic Blast Templates The Double Barreled Turbo Laser Destructors are, Str: D, Ap: 2, Heavy: 2, 5 Inch Large Blast Templates Automatically Appended Next Post: The_Blackadder wrote:Yeah I read the interview but the caliber of the Volcano cannon on the Shadowsword is 4mm tops and this gun has what appears to be in excess of 25 mm. So how can it be classified as a Volcano cannon as well? Do they have different hit points?
Bear with me I know nothing about the game; I just build 'em because I like the hardware. My son's the player.
Also the gun on the Shadowsword is a smaller blast template (5 inches), the Volcano Cannon on the warlord is a 10 inch template.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 18:20:25
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Valhallan42nd wrote:The_Blackadder wrote:What roof would you like to fall from?
The Playboy Mansion's roof, straight into the pool.
Yuck, With all that silicone and the tattoos gimmee real women instead.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 18:24:53
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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The_Blackadder wrote:Valhallan42nd wrote:The_Blackadder wrote:What roof would you like to fall from?
The Playboy Mansion's roof, straight into the pool.
Yuck, With all that silicone and the tattoos gimmee real women instead.
^^ with ya on that, Black. But then again I was with ya on the sarcastic asking of:
The_Blackadder wrote:What roof would you like to fall from?
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 18:26:32
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Before we digress to far lols...
The_Blackadder wrote:Valhallan42nd wrote:The_Blackadder wrote:What roof would you like to fall from?
The Playboy Mansion's roof, straight into the pool.
Yuck, With all that silicone and the tattoos gimmee real women instead.
^ QFT
mxwllmdr wrote:The_Blackadder wrote:Valhallan42nd wrote:The_Blackadder wrote:What roof would you like to fall from?
The Playboy Mansion's roof, straight into the pool.
Yuck, With all that silicone and the tattoos gimmee real women instead.
^^ with ya on that, Black. But then again I was with ya on the sarcastic asking of:
The_Blackadder wrote:What roof would you like to fall from?
^and again QFT
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 18:44:26
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Ok, enough spamming Black's thread.
More awesomeness, please, sir.....
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 18:50:06
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Seconded... I would like to see you Black if possible attempt the warlord Melta cannon and Quake cannon too The Hellstorm cannon you showed interest in is an Emperor class weapon and as such as a tad too large for a Warlord
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 19:21:08
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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This is the Hellstorm cannon I'm talking about.
http://i.imgur.com/ttl1k.jpg
These are the carapace weapon stanchions but now that I see them in the photos may be too small.
http://i.imgur.com/gQToJ.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 19:49:44
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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Thats now termed as a Gattling Blaster, Black...
The Warlord Titans weapons are as follows these days:
Two carapace weapons from the following:
-double barrelled turbo laser
-plasma blastgun
-inferno gun
-vulcan mega bolter
-apocalypse missile launcher
-vortex support missile
two arm weapons from the following list:
-laser blaster
-gattling blaster
-melta cannon
-plasma destructor
-quake cannon
-volcano cannon
-titan close combat weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/03 19:58:26
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Too deep for me!
Oh well anyone for swimmin'
with plasticized wimmin'
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/04 19:22:57
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Yes these are the upper arm stanchions that connect the elbow to the shoulder under the carapace. Right now they look like very complex salt and pepper shakers to me but when inverted and affixed under the carapace they should do nicely. The length is right but they may need bulking up.
Meanwhile I need gun barrels. PVC is out of the question and I won't use cardboard. A couple of years ago I found an old beach umbrella on the beach (where else) it had broke as cheap stuff usually does and got left behind when the bathers had left the littoral boundary. The pole was made of plastic and it has been kicking around my garage for years. Damn me if the shaft isn't a 31 mm styrene tube. Now two feet of styrene tubing if you could buy it would cost $10 to $20 bucks; probably more than the whole umbrella did. Here's the lesson, watch the recycling bins they're full of gold.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/04 21:06:44
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I thought those were the turbolasers..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/04 21:52:04
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada
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The_Blackadder wrote:Yes these are the upper arm stanchions that connect the elbow to the shoulder under the carapace. Right now they look like very complex salt and pepper shakers to me but when inverted and affixed under the carapace they should do nicely. The length is right but they may need bulking up.
Meanwhile I need gun barrels. PVC is out of the question and I won't use cardboard. A couple of years ago I found an old beach umbrella on the beach (where else) it had broke as cheap stuff usually does and got left behind when the bathers had left the littoral boundary. The pole was made of plastic and it has been kicking around my garage for years. Damn me if the shaft isn't a 31 mm styrene tube. Now two feet of styrene tubing if you could buy it would cost $10 to $20 bucks; probably more than the whole umbrella did. Here's the lesson, watch the recycling bins they're full of gold.
Building titans while saving mother terra  You sir are blessed
Plastic is everywhere for free if you look for sure
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/05 03:53:44
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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They look like volcano cannons. Anybody got an epic rulebook?
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The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/05 05:41:12
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Hellacious Havoc
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I believe it is equipped with twin Volcano Cannons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 10:14:37
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Great work as always Blackadder. I say "go for it " on the gattling blaster, it would e a shame to constrict such an awe inspiring constuction to two of the same weapon after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 14:31:16
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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gatling looks badass. plus all the gantries etc detail.
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The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 14:25:25
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Part of the problem of a construction of this type and magnitude is keeping the upper works light enough that it won't be top heavy. In particular the ruddy great guns stuck out a foot/0.3 meters from the CG imparting a tipping arm that can be measured in a substantial fraction of a pound/kilo. I have stated previously that PVC tubing will be too much mass for stability but to make a sturdy enough tube is difficult. I have now what I believe to be the solution. Starting with a full sheet of 'Evergreen 0.5 mm styrene I divided it into 6 equal parts of 50 mm width. The reason for this is that while bending a 50 mm wide strip tightly around a PVC tube is well within my capacity bending evenly a 150 mm sheet is not; you may prove better than I at that endeavor. http://i.imgur.com/QWafC.jpg Once I have a proper overlap wound and cemented I opted to glue the remaining tail of the strip on as well for seam reinforcement. I now had 6, 50 mm long tubes of the required diameter. http://i.imgur.com/xzn0f.jpg Sliding the relatively near perfect tubes back onto the PVC tube and mating the seams I applied a liberal amount of cement on the periphery of the seam I pushed the segments together until tiny beads of plastic oozed from the seam and allowed to dry the result being an extremely light near perfectly round 150 mm styrene tube to build my gun barrels around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 16:23:57
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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The_Blackadder wrote:
Part of the problem of a construction of this type and magnitude is keeping the upper works light enough that it won't be top heavy. In particular the ruddy great guns stuck out a foot/0.3 meters from the CG imparting a tipping arm that can be measured in a substantial fraction of a pound/kilo. I have stated previously that PVC tubing will be too much mass for stability but to make a sturdy enough tube is difficult.
I have now what I believe to be the solution.
Starting with a full sheet of 'Evergreen 0.5 mm styrene I divided it into 6 equal parts of 50 mm width. The reason for this is that while bending a 50 mm wide strip tightly around a PVC tube is well within my capacity bending evenly a 150 mm sheet is not; you may prove better than I at that endeavor.
http://i.imgur.com/QWafC.jpg
Once I have a proper overlap wound and cemented I opted to glue the remaining tail of the strip on as well for seam reinforcement.
I now had 6, 50 mm long tubes of the required diameter.
http://i.imgur.com/xzn0f.jpg
Sliding the relatively near perfect tubes back onto the PVC tube and mating the seams I applied a liberal amount of cement on the periphery of the seam I pushed the segments together until tiny beads of plastic oozed from the seam and allowed to dry the result being an extremely light near perfectly round 150 mm styrene tube to build my gun barrels around.
another option might be conduit pipe (not sure how that would stack up weight wise.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/09 22:53:21
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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I think you're insane to be making the guns like this, brilliantly so, I'm intending to design a counterbalanced mass at the back to try to even the turning moment about the hinge but I suppose your preset design doesnt allow that. Awesome way to get around it though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 16:50:16
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Actually it's the simplest and least massive assembly I can come up with. The gun barrel complete masses only 29 grams/1.0 ounce and is extremely rigid. I figure the entire gun to come in at about 120 grams or 1/4 lb which should be satisfactory. and it still leaves me counterbalance room in the back of the hull for final adjustment. Automatically Appended Next Post: The gun barrels are basically done except for the detail. There was a lot of wrapping of layers of styrene. The biggest problem was duplicating the bottle caps used in the original. http://i.imgur.com/Iu2B4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dJIG.jpg But the finished result is very gratifying especially since they weigh only 29 grams/one ounce each.
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