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That architecture is simply amazing dude, its aesthetically beautiful and functional! Can't wait to see more!!!

Superb work on the interior, makes me think of Flash Gordon and the Nautilus from 20,000 leagues under the Sea... Looking forward to the next update

Blackadder, this continues to be incredible! Fantastic attention to detail, and excellent work on the interior.

That interior looks really good - very 'gothic' looking as such a titan should be.

Someone asked that I include a figure with the model to get a prospective as to the scale. I found a tank figure sans base in my scrap box which should be a fair representative of an average sized human and glued a thin piece of plasticard to his feet. The result is astounding to me, at 26 inches the amended design height of this model the figure is minuscule.

http://i.imgur.com/A4l3z.jpg


BTW the carapace side and back plates are drying in these images and stiffen the structure immensely.

http://i.imgur.com/A4l3z.jpg


I was concerned at the flexibility of the carapace which had a tendency to droop under the influence of gravity so I assembled it upside down to negate that effect.

http://i.imgur.com/056pz.jpg



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One more shot before I amble off to the daily toil:

http://i.imgur.com/n2Zja.jpg


Note the figure on the right foot.

Thats looking beautiful black, seriously great work.

I just love all the interior detail, you're really nailing it in that respect. Are you going to do all the super complicated engines and void shield generators stuff? I always wonder how people choose to represent such complex Adeptus Mechanicus technology.

Holly Gak Batman... that figure makes the whole thing astoundingly epic!!!

btw, have you figured out what armament your giving it yet?

Your pace is great for such a tough subject.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Thats looking beautiful black, seriously great work.

I just love all the interior detail, you're really nailing it in that respect. Are you going to do all the super complicated engines and void shield generators stuff? I always wonder how people choose to represent such complex Adeptus Mechanicus technology.

The DS model has void generators in the twin housings above the head shield. While I don't know what a void generator looks like I'm willing to accept DS's rendering. Engines are another matter This vehicle probably has a fusion reactor for a power source but that's not an engine, thats an energy supply. Somehow the heat generated by the reactor has to be transformed into something that does work. A steam turbine or multiple steam turbines comes to mind so a titan may be thought of as a huge steam engine.

Now we have power that we can use, power that turns dynamos, gear cases, hydraulic pumps, transducers.

There is nothing that can be classified as an engine per se.

I picture the legs being driven by large electric motors possible housed in those huge gears that act as giant flywheels that store energy to provide power for the leg movements with a computer controlled system of brakes and clutches; certainly not a drive shaft and a transmission which would be ludicrous in an ambulatory vehicle.

So we've gone from structural engineering (things that don't move) to mechanical engineering (things that do move) i.e. dynamics. Any thoughts?

Hmm you raise a good point.

Unfortunately this is why i never get around to doing interiors on my scratch builds. Whenever i start to think too hard about it it seems like the scale is way off for the amount of space that would be needed to fit all the gubbinz in.

I definitely like the leg propulsion being in the large cogs though.

Found some cool pics that you may be able to take inspiration from:

Oh wow I missed so much!

This is looking absolutely stunning Black! While I always admired the bols titan, I feel that yours will become something much more than it what with the interior and just the opportunity to see it built!

Just seeing those pics with the figure next to it makes me smile, I can't help it, all that titan is just so cool!

The_Blackadder wrote:
The DS model has void generators in the twin housings above the head shield. While I don't know what a void generator looks like I'm willing to accept DS's rendering. Engines are another matter This vehicle probably has a fusion reactor for a power source but that's not an engine, thats an energy supply. Somehow the heat generated by the reactor has to be transformed into something that does work. A steam turbine or multiple steam turbines comes to mind so a titan may be thought of as a huge steam engine.

Void shield Generators are huge reactors that draw upon the Immaterium to deflect/negate harmful energies/force. Now to me it seems they absorb/redirect anything with kenetic force/energy either into the warp or housed into some form of dynamo within the titan to redirect the energy through its Drive engines or weapon systems. The Warlord titan has one generator for its void shields per void shield listed in its rules entry, as its a failsafe to make sure that if one goes down they all don't fail.

The_Blackadder wrote:Now we have power that we can use, power that turns dynamos, gear cases, hydraulic pumps, transducers. There is nothing that can be classified as an engine per se.

I picture the legs being driven by large electric motors possible housed in those huge gears that act as giant flywheels that store energy to provide power for the leg movements with a computer controlled system of brakes and clutches; certainly not a drive shaft and a transmission which would be ludicrous in an ambulatory vehicle.

So we've gone from structural engineering (things that don't move) to mechanical engineering (things that do move) i.e. dynamics. Any thoughts?

The Warlord also has one main reactor to power the movement side of things, each weapon also has a reactor housed within it as a way to reduce overload and a full systems failure. The way I've always pictured its movement is one of huge piston drives and cable like tendons to fix its position much like the human body, as a lot of current androids/robots follow the human principal of movement.

I hope my two cents is useful and doesnt make you do a gak ton of work again

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

The_Blackadder wrote:I can't argue with anything up this point; (there are four void generators right?)........................................................................

The way I've always pictured its movement is one of huge piston drives and cable like tendons to fix its position much like the human body, as a lot of current androids/robots follow the human principal of movement.

Viewing the current android/robot movement to date I am not so sure I want my majestic warlord loping across the battlefield looking for all the world like it has a load in it's pants unless the purpose is to have the enemy laugh itself into insensibility. The flat footed gait was what I was trying to avoid when I went to all the trouble of designing flexible ankles and toes.

There has to be more to the motion than just 'Asimo' plodding.

The_Blackadder wrote:

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

The_Blackadder wrote:I can't argue with anything up this point; (there are four void generators right?)........................................................................

The way I've always pictured its movement is one of huge piston drives and cable like tendons to fix its position much like the human body, as a lot of current androids/robots follow the human principal of movement.

Viewing the current android/robot movement to date I am not so sure I want my majestic warlord loping across the battlefield looking for all the world like it has a load in it's pants unless the purpose is to have the enemy laugh itself into insensibility. The flat footed gait was what I was trying to avoid when I went to all the trouble of designing flexible ankles and toes.

There has to be more to the motion than just 'Asimo' plodding.

LMFAO... I see your point... the soiled pants aproach to walking isnt the best looking thing in the world I will admit lols... but, have you seen the fiberous bundle aproach to muscle replication for the application of limb replacement? they are gorgeous, and kind of how I always imagined bionic's to be.

Replicating biological limbs would be more suited to an Eldar Titan which just looks like a giant Eldar soldier IMHO not that theres anything wrong with that but the Warlord Titan even the Mars pattern is clearly a mechanical vehicle and has clearly defined mechanical parts.

The_Blackadder wrote:Replicating biological limbs would be more suited to an Eldar Titan which just looks like a giant Eldar soldier IMHO not that theres anything wrong with that but the Warlord Titan even the Mars pattern is clearly a mechanical vehicle and has clearly defined mechanical parts.

Very true, I meant more of a "have you seen how awesome they look" lols... Btw, have you considered building "Knight" titan's?

No I think the next titan I build will be an Ork Warhound sized variant, I have to use up all the scrap I've accumulated Not the one GW put out which looks like a badly made trash receptacle but a two legged T-Rex type with a stabilizing tail. Oh and it won't have movable joints.

This will be (if I do it) totally my design not a copy; I feel I should try something original now.

The_Blackadder wrote:No I think the next titan I build will be an Ork Warhound sized variant, I have to use up all the scrap I've accumulated Not the one GW put out which looks like a badly made trash receptacle but a two legged T-Rex type with a stabilizing tail. Oh and it won't have movable joints.

This will be (if I do it) totally my design not a copy; I feel I should try something original now.

Fair enough, and it makes total sense too!!!

This has turned into something truly epic, well done mr blackadder. I love the girders, can't wait to see more!

I've come to the realization that although the legs are movable I only show one pose so here's some with the left foot forward.

Note if you will that the carapace skirt is too long and I'll be shortening it 15 MM also that the cabinets in my work area are too low to be taking pictures under from now on.

The scale height has gone from 120 feet/36.576 meters scale height to 159 feet = 48.4632 meters. I'm still an inch and a half shorter than the DS Titan and I plan to shorten the engineering section half an inch which should round out the height to about 160 feet when finished and all the detail is added.

I happened to be crossing a bridge the other day over a sea level freighter port, Port Newark if you must know and I had my GPS set to give me the elevation above mean sea level. As I crested the bridge the readout was 130 feet and I thought to myself, "If I were in a Warlord cockpit this is how high I would be." I was looking down at everything even the cargo container gantries; believe me, that's high! A lot higher than 130 feet looks when you pace it out on the ground. I like to make references like that; wome times when flying the captain will say, We're cruising at 35,000 feet " and I think, that's the depth on the Mindanao trench." or 29,000 feet, "That's the height of Mount Everest." It kind of brings home the scale of what you're looking at when flying.

http://i.imgur.com/yFDUd.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/775fm.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/KdIhk.jpg

I think its safe to say... I wouldn't like to fall from the roof of a titan

What roof would you like to fall from?

Good point

Point of interest, someone on another forum asked me how I arrived at the height of my model; pure conjecture I assure you.

I had no precise figures so I rationalized from the FW models. Starting with the Warhound they made their model 10.5 inches tall thereabout. 10.5 divided by 1.125 (the scale constant for a six foot tall man) is 9.333 which means that a warhound is 9.3 times taller than a six foot tall figure therefore a warhound is 9.3 X 6 = 56 feet for the height of a warhound depending on the pose or 17.07 meters tall. going further the reaver titan model is approximately 16.5 inches tall according to the FW spec's so a 'real' Reaver by my calculations would be 16.5/1.25 X 6 = 79..2 feet or 24.146 meters tall. There is no model for a Warlord so I divided 16.5/10.5 X 16.5 = 25.905 inches X 6 ft = 155.4 feet or 47.387 meters which is what my model approximates. Going further using 1.57 as the new constant (16.5/10.5) gives you 40.6 inches tall for an Imperator Titan and 63.8 inches for an Emperor Titan the last two of which would be totally impracticable for the average game board. I much prefer making 9.5 inches the new bench mark making the Imperator Titan about 35 inches tall and the Emperor Titan 45 inches tall which is still too tall for practical gaming and actual scale height of 270 feet or 82.3 meters tall for the Emperor Titan.

Incidentally using 1.57 as the constant would give you 382.8 feet or 116.7 meters for the Emperor Titan.

totally impractical


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4nzgPbHlNo4/SZObWbgOr6I/AAAAAAAAEDU/0B8hdHZvrtQ/s1600/Imperator-battle-04.jpg

So I take that as a nay?

The carapace is going together quickly, there is a discrepancy in the DS model that I didn't incorporate in mine in that the carapace isn't as deep front to back as the Epic model. Why Mr Smith chose to make it narrower front to back isn't known but for me the balance is important as I want it to stand without a base and with the legs in any position so I need the balance point to be directly over the waist pivot.

Right now the weight of the torso is 1.6 lbs about 0.725 kilo.


http://i.imgur.com/LvcQr.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/3kROw.jpg

I really like the upside down "pear" shape that is emerging better than the BoLS DS titan. His was amazing, no doubt, but this is coming together very nicely with an aesthetic that is mind-numbing.

Thank you for the shout out on the lightened girders and thank you again for going above and beyond my endeavors with the technology. Absolutely fantastic interior design.

I had thought that, when I do mine, I would have three or four floors but the vaulted ceiling on yours is changing my mind on that detail. Although, I do wait on pins and needles to see how you integrate the Bridge (interior of the head?) with the open control deck behind it.

I am sure it will be fine but worry slightly that the bottle neck area at the base of the "head" will look awkward unless blended well. Which I am confident you can do.....


Love the viewing deck windows idea, as well. Easy design point to justify and simplfies the already complicated nature of this beast without oversimplifying it, IMHO.....

The interior is looking incredible.

As usual looking forward to seeing more. I'm only sorry that I can't offer more input.

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Upside down pear? Bartlett or Anjou?

I took a shot front and back for reference.

http://i.imgur.com/bBATf.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/YOQZ9.jpg


The Sun is well over the yardarm; Martini time.

Okay I should know this but what are these guns on the DS titan called?