Yup, Look at almost every KS out there. The last 48 is the biggest jump.
I looked, and I can't see any that have such a massive spike from so few backers.
Remember, most of these backers have backed a lot of Mierce projects, and a lot of the comments were along the lines of "I'm tapped out" "Here's £100, but that 's my limit etc.
Look at that graph:
Compared to:
That's not just a normal last minute pledge rush...which, by the way, is usually from lurkers.
That's an average of £325 from 8 people, none of whom were chatting in the forum about the kickstarter looking like ti would miss the target, nothing...
Yx - I don't know what exactly you're trying to insinuate here, but I can't help but feel you're trying to find things that aren't there. The majority of KS start with a boost the first day, lag in the middle, and then boost again at the end.
You're in this KS, why not just post and ask there?
skullking wrote: Yx - I don't know what exactly you're trying to insinuate here, but I can't help but feel you're trying to find things that aren't there. The majority of KS start with a boost the first day, lag in the middle, and then boost again at the end.
You're in this KS, why not just post and ask there?
Oh, OK, if you think that surge is normal, I'll hush my mouth.
Actually Mierce KS are one of the few set up so a last minute splurge from existing backers is a real possibility,
it's not as if there's a fixed buffet of stuff to pick from like a big CMON box game where there's a realistic limit unless people start buying duplicates,
there's an absolutely massive back catalogue of stuff you can pick up via the KS, and most of the existing backer know it (and probably have a fairly significant list of stuff they'd like but have yet to afford)
So given that and the happy community atmosphere it's all to easy to say, go on I can stretch for just one more host, just one big monster, just one unit of humans, i'm going to get them eventually anyway, if I toss the money in during the KS i'll get a better deal and i'll help out the group
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: Actually Mierce KS are one of the few set up so a last minute splurge from existing backers is a real possibility,
it's not as if there's a fixed buffet of stuff to pick from like a big CMON box game where there's a realistic limit unless people start buying duplicates,
there's an absolutely massive back catalogue of stuff you can pick up via the KS, and most of the existing backer know it (and probably have a fairly significant list of stuff they'd like but have yet to afford)
So given that and the happy community atmosphere it's all to easy to say, go on I can stretch for just one more host, just one big monster, just one unit of humans, i'm going to get them eventually anyway, if I toss the money in during the KS i'll get a better deal and i'll help out the group
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I didn't think they offered the %off existing stock this time, I musta missed that.
I threw in on the last day as I'd just gotten a significant bonus I didn't know was coming. I was originally just in for 10 pounds to get access to the pledge manager. So that accounts for some of the bump. Hopefully that's OK without commenting on it first...I pretty always use my moneyback on finished items that are nearing their ship date in case anyone needs to know on I'm paying now when the stuff wont ship for a year+. I figure I'll pick some of these guys up in Savage Hordes 12 lol.
I imagine this one had a larger than normal share of fence sitters, as it almost didnt fund, and for whatever weird reason, people will only back if it's a sure thing.
Boss Salvage wrote: Admittedly I flipped out a little when I stumbled on that. Triple giant smashy croco dudes??? *the mind boggles*
2018: The year I admit I have a croco/gator-man problem but do nothing to fix it - tho at least some of it'll get painted
- Salvage
Looking forward to seeing what you do with them, Salvage!! I picked up Frenzied Srok a while back and love him, but I think the cohesive unit of 3 hammer-crocs will work better for your (monstrous KoW unit!?) purposes
Wouldn't you basically need two of the 80mm guys for a KoW block?
Srokk surprisingly left me feeling a little flat. Loved the big guy though.
My new favorite has been Golgogg. I'm curious to see what the new armored Fomoriac Ograx are going to turn out like.
Speaking of which, weren't the Ograx reivers supposed to have been finished, or getting close to it? Gotta turn that store credit into resin!
Srokk surprisingly left me feeling a little flat. Loved the big guy though.
My new favorite has been Golgogg. I'm curious to see what the new armored Fomoriac Ograx are going to turn out like.
Speaking of which, weren't the Ograx reivers supposed to have been finished, or getting close to it? Gotta turn that store credit into resin!
There is a bucket load of stuff from SH III that has not even been started yet...
SH3 does appear to be the kickstarter that time forgot, with 8 months from successful funding, to the first release, Xet, who jumped the queue of backlogged minis.
Since then, just the bears have appeared, and not a sodding thing else.
This is what gets my goat, that was funded Sept 2016...it is now 2018, and the vast majority of minis have not even been sculpted!
Yet here we have some resculpts getting done...*sigh
Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.
Monkeysloth wrote: Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.
My thoughts exactly!
The KS "discount" is based off the mythical RRP, which is discounted 5% in the store anyway...
Great Axe Malacant was £45 KS price, is £60 (but really £57) Store price, so a 25% discount makes him £45 anyway (Discounts apply to the full RRP)
You may miss out when the model comes in larger than intended, and price increases, i.e. Xet was £40, but increased to £70, a HUGE increase.
But for the most part, just go "ooh, and "Ahh, and wait for the release date, the amount of interest you lose on a £500 pledge over 2 years...well, it's not insignificant.
"Oh, but if you don't pledge it won't get unlocked"
Riight, cos Mierce never run a "part deux" to unlock the leftovers...
Hey, I backed a lot of Mierce kickstarters, but with the 18 month delay, i won't anymore...not until i see that backlog massively reduced.
Monkeysloth wrote: Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.
My thoughts exactly!
You may miss out when the model comes in larger than intended, and price increases, i.e. Xet was £40, but increased to £70, a HUGE increase.
Hey, I backed a lot of Mierce kickstarters, but with the 18 month delay, i won't anymore...not until i see that backlog massively reduced.
There's been several from the first few KSers that I got a killing out of like both the big dragons as well.
I should get a huge chunk of my backlog cleared out with the next wave of metals in the next month or so which will be nice. Come to think of it I think I only have like 4-5 figures from savage hordes 3 (Mallux, you always buy the Mallux to say on to good side of a certain Mod) and after that the only thing I'm interested in is the Formoric crustaceans that seam to on hold for cost reasons so I'm waiting till I see prints of them in an update before I buy. The falling Dollar to Pound has also put a damper on me wanting to buy as well. If I get a bunch painted this year I'll consider it but I can't just buy expensive stuff that will sit in a drawer for years any more.
I'm also in the "wait until it's sculpted to pay for it" group, as it's so hard to predict if a sculpt will be expedited (Xet) or take ages to be completed (Savrar units, which I almost backed heavily for, but thankfully ended up using the funds towards existing sculpts, instead).
With the majority of new models being digitally sculpted now, I'll likely adjust this to seeing a print, rather than a digital render, because the possible delay between those two points (whether due to printing cost or printing queue) seems quite high.
I commend those willing to back and wait an extremely long time... I'd just rather pay a bit more and know that what I'm backing for has been sculpted well, and is going to be produced in the near term. The risk is too high otherwise... even if it's only of me losing interest by the time it's ready (but of course sculpt quality, timing of the project I'm using it for, etc are all factors).
Monkeysloth wrote: Ya, my policy is if there's a figure I really want in the campaign wait until it's about to ship then buy it. Recently though with all the 25% off sales there's not much reason to even pledge and worry if it will ever deliver as it will be on sale shortly after release.
The KS "discount" is based off the mythical RRP, which is discounted 5% in the store anyway...
I struggled a bit with late pledging for the Crushers vs just waiting until they exist and a sale pops up (including that BOGO monster one from back when). I figured in the end that the KS price is technically better than nothing, and I'd hypothetically want these dudes asap for my 2018 army plans, and I don't have a great idea of when Mierce sales are, nor do I want to wait for those I remember (late summer then Nov/Dec) if these crocs actually ship in June ...
Yeah, I've totally added for things before they hit retail (as sometimes there's quite a gap between backers getting it and retail release on the website). I just like to make sure I'm in the "6 months or so until they're cast" window before doing so
Crap! Game Kastle's got every game/company under the sun, and most on discount! Too bad they're in CA, I hate paying those in state taxes. Can't believe I'd never heard of them. Great find Yx!
I think Mierce needed to stick to a few dozen awesome minis., and build a skirmish game around those, rather than the absolute hundreds of minis they have in their lineup.
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skullking wrote: Crap! Game Kastle's got every game/company under the sun, and most on discount! Too bad they're in CA, I hate paying those in state taxes. Can't believe I'd never heard of them. Great find Yx!
Wow, that Game Kastle link is awesome!! The discounts look reasonable to me for an online seller (i.e. not too steep, who really pays retail from an online 3rd party seller these days, anyway?).
It's fantastic to have a US seller like this, I had to close the link before buying stuff
I got some pretty good discounts on Mierce stuff from Element Games during one of their sales. I think it was Element. So at least some UK suppliers have that stuff too.
But as others have mentioned, with Mierce regularly running 25% off sales, or 50% clearance sales on their in-stock metals (which I tend to buy in preference to the resins where available), or BOGOF on their big monsters, I see no reason to take the less certain Kickstarter backer route.
I'd love to see a skirmish game set in their rather Slaine-ish universe but won't be playing Darklands any time soon.
Yeah, they should have taken the "Confrontation" route here, and had a warband skirmish scale game too, if not 'only'.
A 10 to 15 'man' group per side, with an approriate level of crunch would have been good, and would still have encouraged people buying multiple Kindreds worth of stuff, etc.
Now, we don't really have a game that anyone is playing, and Mierce does have that feeling of being supported largely by a group of (X) hardcore fans, with (X) being somewhere between 300 and 500 people?
I can't see myself buying too much more until the backlog is significantly reduced.
Which is a shame, because I absolutely love the miniatures and the setting.
Isn't the game already being played at a skirmish level though?
Looking at the gold costs for most warbands, especially if monstrous infantry or beasts are part of your host, you're not looking at more than 10 or 15 models really hitting the table.
Heck, every time I've tried to put together a Khthon muster it always ends up between 3 to 6 models at 1000 points. Maybe that's due to needing some cheap Savrar to screen all the crocs, but they're a pretty expensive host as it is points- wise...
I don't think the game is being played much at all, period.
I mean, I'm guessing you've looked at the rule book, yes?
It does not lend itself to a casual inspection, or to jumping right in and playing.
Now, granted, a lot that is in there can just be ignored, not used, etc.
But that book is (x) pages with almost all of it being rather dryly presented rules, not much background, few illustrations, etc.
I know that Rob wants to 'do it all', but he probably should get some help in some key areas.
I'd love for someone to do a 'fan edit', much like someone did for Infinity an edition or so back - that really helped me understand that game a lot better.
This one needs help - and of course that backlog needs help too!
I really want this game - and company - to survive.
Alpharius wrote: I don't think the game is being played much at all, period.
I mean, I'm guessing you've looked at the rule book, yes?
It does not lend itself to a casual inspection, or to jumping right in and playing.
Now, granted, a lot that is in there can just be ignored, not used, etc.
But that book is (x) pages with almost all of it being rather dryly presented rules, not much background, few illustrations, etc.
I know that Rob wants to 'do it all', but he probably should get some help in some key areas.
I'd love for someone to do a 'fan edit', much like someone did for Infinity an edition or so back - that really helped me understand that game a lot better.
This one needs help - and of course that backlog needs help too!
I really want this game - and company - to survive.
The miniatures and setting are too good to lose!
I agree with all of this Alph!
Not even getting into the gameplay rules, the 'building an army' aspect of the game is intimidating. I've tried to build a list, had to revamp as characters gold/command values shifted. Then they whole system got revamped and every thing changed (though admittedly, it did make much more sense after that).
I always thought it'd be cool to have it a bit more like Warmachine/Hordes, where everything is centered around a hero character. I thought it would be cool if you chose your heroes (perhaps a warrior, magic user, and 2nd in command), then you would use gold/points to purchase infantry in the army. Depending on which units you chose, and how they corresponded to the characters you had, you would gain Mythic/Lore/Magical type points. These you would spend on any manner of monsters, so that monsters were separate, but also sort of 'free' to your list. And building more thematic lists, would grant you more 'magical' points to get monsters. I'm not sure how monstrous infantry would fit into that whole scheme, especially since there are like 4 levels of monstrous infantry. Plus, you've got kindreds like the Jutes/formoraic/Vras, where you've got more 'monstery' 30mm infantry. And then there's Monstrous commanders, how could Krull lead a host of infernii? So, there'd have to be some way to make all that work.
I love the amount of detail the game has where you've got shifts in Time of Day, Monsters degrade as they're wounded (something GW has now picked up), etc. But I can't help but feel there needs to be a neat simple package that makes everything quick & easy to play.
I looked over the full PDF rules before they were taken down, I couldn't understand why just getting your team organised is so freaking hard...game rules should include pre-assembled teams, jsut get x, y, z, a, b, and c, off you go.
I just don't see what the advantage is for akng such complciated setup rules...reality?
yxalitis wrote: I looked over the full PDF rules before they were taken down, I couldn't understand why just getting your team organised is so freaking hard...game rules should include pre-assembled teams, jsut get x, y, z, a, b, and c, off you go.
I just don't see what the advantage is for akng such complciated setup rules...reality?
On that point, I strongly disagree; creating your army is the one place I want as much complexity as possible, "ease of use" be damned. It doesn't slow things down unless people insist on list-tailoring(an odd practice IMO), and I want to make my army/warband/whatever, not choose from whatever limited selection the game's producers deign to offer me.
For my money the worst trend in 40K over the last few years, culminating in 8th, has been the simplification of army creation by removing options.
Looking at the gold costs for most warbands, especially if monstrous infantry or beasts are part of your host, you're not looking at more than 10 or 15 models really hitting the table.
Heck, every time I've tried to put together a Khthon muster it always ends up between 3 to 6 models at 1000 points. Maybe that's due to needing some cheap Savrar to screen all the crocs, but they're a pretty expensive host as it is points- wise...
The infantry starter hosts are 499gc and typically 16 models. I assume the "usual" game size is 1500 or more.
Another update for Darklands: Mighty Monsters, with the news that the Mighty Allan Carrasco has begun work on the rest of the Peat Beasts...
Let's enjoy...
Just the one miniature from Allan so far, for the Érainn although he's begun work on the other three from its unit...
The Beasts of Machairá Peat have taken their sweet time to be done, but Allan's cracking on and I shouldn't wonder if they're done by the next update...
The Peat Beast known as Bréana is looking... erm... beautiful? thanks to Allan's work...
We're hoping the unit will be ready for Wave 21 for sure...
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Spinal Rip
What a lovely time we're having here, thanks to Jason Hendricks, who is cracking on with the Brute-Beasts #despitebrexit.
We're off...
Again, just one miniature for the Ysians from Jason this time around...
The simply awesome Brute-Beasts are only awesome because of Danny Cruz' and Jason Hendricks' efforts, so let us salute those two stars of artistry!
The second warrior of the unit, Trugg appears to have ripped a big spine out of something and, like as not, beat its original owner to beyond death with it. What a lovely chap he must be.
Here's a scale shot...
Hopefully the Brute-Beasts will make their way into Wave 21!
Here's another update, the first of 2018, for you this week on Darklands: Warriors of Baalor, featuring the last of the limited edition Fomoraic nobles.
Here we go...
Two lovely conversions of existing miniatures from Yannick Hennebo this month, both for the Fomoraic, funnily enough.
Kraan gets a great axe to become - wait for it - Great Axe Kraan! Fantastic!
He'll be a Wave 21 shipment...
The limited edition variant of Maagaan, carrying an ice staff, is called Ice Staff Maagaan, inventively.
He'll be Wave 21 too!
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New Hrafnen Crew
Welcome to this, the very first update for Darklands: Savage Hordes IV, and it's an awesome one for sure!
For those not in the know or are new to our projects, every couple of weeks (all being well) we create updates on a project to show works in progress on the miniatures funded by that project.
Let's crack on!
There's just the one miniature to show so far, and he's for the Norse. It's early days, too, so bear with us!
The Hrafnen Crew resculpt is happening because of the Hrafnen Bowmen from Savage Hordes II, which are being sculpted by Bob Płociennik, and of course that they're due a resculpt!
It's early days for Vidkun the Brave, the unit's champion, but this is an early indication of how awesome the new Holumenn are going to be... All Hail Bob!
As well as the sword and shield you see here, they'll come with sword/axe and shield and spear and shield.
Alpharius wrote: I don't think the game is being played much at all, period.
Just a small plug, Ive tried to get Darklands listed on the player finder here. There are enough people in this thread who mentioned wanting to play that it would not be the smallest game listed nor would Mierce be a defunct company like Spartan.
Ive connected through the Mierce Forums with another person in the Saint Paul, MN metro to get a learning game in. Growing Darklands is a game of inches especially with the way units have come out rather disorganized through the KS. Yes its cool to have endless monsters for the Formoric but really, shouldnt we have living Jutes by now?
Alpharius wrote: I don't think the game is being played much at all, period.
Just a small plug, Ive tried to get Darklands listed on the player finder here. There are enough people in this thread who mentioned wanting to play that it would not be the smallest game listed nor would Mierce be a defunct company like Spartan.
Ive connected through the Mierce Forums with another person in the Saint Paul, MN metro to get a learning game in. Growing Darklands is a game of inches especially with the way units have come out rather disorganized through the KS. Yes its cool to have endless monsters for the Formoric but really, shouldnt we have living Jutes by now?
Perhaps that is there thought process, flesh out the factions in order of need, and be damned with the KS order...
These 3D sculpts look nice...maybe with these smaller ones they outsource the printing, hence the push on the little figures recently, at least once sculpted by Bob they can be sent out to get printed, and cast up in resin.
Alpharius wrote: I don't think the game is being played much at all, period.
Just a small plug, Ive tried to get Darklands listed on the player finder here. There are enough people in this thread who mentioned wanting to play that it would not be the smallest game listed nor would Mierce be a defunct company like Spartan.
Ive connected through the Mierce Forums with another person in the Saint Paul, MN metro to get a learning game in. Growing Darklands is a game of inches especially with the way units have come out rather disorganized through the KS. Yes its cool to have endless monsters for the Formoric but really, shouldnt we have living Jutes by now?
Perhaps that is there thought process, flesh out the factions in order of need, and be damned with the KS order...
These 3D sculpts look nice...maybe with these smaller ones they outsource the printing, hence the push on the little figures recently, at least once sculpted by Bob they can be sent out to get printed, and cast up in resin.
Maybe...who knows...?
I don't think the living Jutes were even funded until 2017 in Savage Hordes 4, and the jutes themselves were not one of the original kindreds. The Holumen archers were funded with Savager Hordes 1, back in 2015, and the Norse desperately need some man sized troops. Same w the Angelcynn wolf archers. They could either modify the existing bad sculpts, or create new digital sculpts and modify those. This kills two birds w one stone. As the "proud" owner of 25 original puny warriors of Baalor, I appreciate them trying to avoid the issue and saving other customers from getting an inferior product that was just going to be phased out anyways.
Hey, if anyone wants some excellent 20mm chaos warriors, drop me a line lol.
I don't think the living Jutes were even funded until 2017 in Savage Hordes 4, and the jutes themselves were not one of the original kindreds. The Holumen archers were funded with Savager Hordes 1, back in 2015, and the Norse desperately need some man sized troops. Same w the Angelcynn wolf archers. They could either modify the existing bad sculpts, or create new digital sculpts and modify those. This kills two birds w one stone. As the "proud" owner of 25 original puny warriors of Baalor, I appreciate them trying to avoid the issue and saving other customers from getting an inferior product that was just going to be phased out anyways.
Hey, if anyone wants some excellent 20mm chaos warriors, drop me a line lol.
That's true, show you how far backlogged the kickstarters are...
I never understood what all the hooplah was, for the living Jute troops. I always thought it was kind of cool that the army was mostly skeletons, Bugs, and Ghosts, with just a sprinkle of living folks to tell everyone what to do.
But people REALLY wanted them. I don't doubt they'll look great (they'd look better if they all wore chain-veils, just sayin ), I just always assumed the draw of the Jute kindred, was that they were undead among so many 'living' kindreds.
skullking wrote: I never understood what all the hooplah was, for the living Jute troops. I always thought it was kind of cool that the army was mostly skeletons, Bugs, and Ghosts, with just a sprinkle of living folks to tell everyone what to do.
But people REALLY wanted them. I don't doubt they'll look great (they'd look better if they all wore chain-veils, just sayin ), I just always assumed the draw of the Jute kindred, was that they were undead among so many 'living' kindreds.
I don't know what was wrong with an entirely undead army?
Why add living troops into the mix, how does that conversation go?
"Had a good day?"
*looks over
"Enjoying the weather?"
*turns away
"OK then, nice chatting!"
Alpharius wrote: It probably goes how any necromantic type of conversation would go?
Count me among the group that really want the living Jutes to go along with the Undead ones - and the bugs too, don't forget the bugs!
I think they'll all look great together on the table!
Speaking of bugs: We are still waiting on Scaethan, Nihtglom, and Selkilias to even be sculpted, and printed, and molded, and produced, and shipped....along with Schyros and Uuroch, and...and...
*sigh
Am i wrong to be impatient...after nearly 2 years, for the minis I PAID FOR to be even at the first stage of production??
Sooo, question - when are these big discount sales people have been mentioning?
I just priced out the models I want to pick up for my rework of the Albion campaign for Mordheim and...eesh, I got the same kind of cringe you get when you see someone being kicked in the nads, except in my wallet.
Doesn't help that a lot of the stuff isn't metal yet, and they don't let you buy the five packs in metal regardless :/
If you're on the mailing list you'll get notified, so I guess get on the mailing list?
No especial rhyme or reason to when they happen that I've noticed, and as direct sales are already 5% off RRP bear in mind that a 15% sale (for instance) is in reality more of a 10% sale.
I don't think the living Jutes were even funded until 2017 in Savage Hordes 4, and the jutes themselves were not one of the original kindreds. The Holumen archers were funded with Savager Hordes 1, back in 2015, and the Norse desperately need some man sized troops. Same w the Angelcynn wolf archers. They could either modify the existing bad sculpts, or create new digital sculpts and modify those. This kills two birds w one stone. As the "proud" owner of 25 original puny warriors of Baalor, I appreciate them trying to avoid the issue and saving other customers from getting an inferior product that was just going to be phased out anyways.
Hey, if anyone wants some excellent 20mm chaos warriors, drop me a line lol.
That's true, show you how far backlogged the kickstarters are...
What about the wolf men though?
The ones just resculpted digitally by Bob for Starter Hosts 2? They also needed to be redone for the Savage Hordes 1 wolf archers, as I've been waiting on them since 2015. Same issue as the Holumen... the existing wolf men looked weird with long monkey tails, so they'd either need to adapt those or make new base models.
Hror kind of jumped the queue, though there may have been a variant of him outstanding too. I'd imagine that once they have a wolf man "nude" digital they can modify it easy.
Bob really does seem to be plowing through these with good work at a good clip. Though I hope we have more coming from some of the traditional sculptors. Totally get the apprehension on the backlog. I have a gut feeling that they may have promised too many sculpts on some of these (SH3 notably) for the money they took in, so had to accept that booked sculptors would do them more at their convenience in exchange for smaller fees.
Side note, if they're doing tweaks to existing sculpts, I really wish they would re-part the ax/bow/chain drune's heads to be separate pieces from the bodies, but with the horns attached. Jeez they are a PITA to get on...
RiTides wrote: Looks quite nice, but that axe has no detail - hopefully it was just a placeholder!
Is Mierce updating on printing at all (i.e. are the masters for the Savrar units you guys were discussing printed?).
Not a word, just: "soon" for around 6 months now.
That's my biggest gripe...as long as a year ago they have marked as "completed" all the 3D sculpts Bob has done for various old kickstarters, but not many have not actually been printed.
I think only the small stuff gets outsourced.
From New Kindreds, funded to a whopping £115,000, way back in September 2014!
BRONN AP BANBRONN was completed Aug 12 2016, well over a year ago, and nearly 2 yeas after the kickstarter was funded:
Finally released to general sales in October 2017.
I ordered Dairdubh, just got him late last year...
The astonishing thing is that Mierce has dragged in over £850,000 in 5 years of Kickstarters.
In the first year and a half thay had accumulated £530,000
Minus fess of course...
Kickstarter income has been on a steep decline the past few years.
It was mentioned in the comments of the most recent campaign that they've ordered a printer and its on the way. Rob also said if would be a bit until they start getting production masters out of it as they still have to learn how to use it which, as someone who 3D prints a lot, is reasonable. It takes a good number of test prints to learn how the machine works and "dial" it in to get a good print. A resin machine is generally easier to get good prints out of but you have to clean and cure them afterwards and its easy to destroy a print during one of those steps.
Monkeysloth wrote: It was mentioned in the comments of the most recent campaign that they've ordered a printer and its on the way. Rob also said if would be a bit until they start getting production masters out of it as they still have to learn how to use it which, as someone who 3D prints a lot, is reasonable. It takes a good number of test prints to learn how the machine works and "dial" it in to get a good print. A resin machine is generally easier to get good prints out of but you have to clean and cure them afterwards and its easy to destroy a print during one of those steps.
Can you show me that quote, I do not remember seeing that, and i was looking for it!
Edit, found it:
@Nick - I wouldn't like to say what it says about you ;o) @Seneca - depends what you mean by "easter time" - especially if metal. With the Werwulfas done and the 3D printer imminent (although we have to do some training rather than "what does this button do") I'm hopeful of April shipments for metals, maybe March if resin... @Jonas - the "forthcoming hosts" are all in their parent categories - so if you need access to the Vras, you must have access to the Savage Hordes IV category. I see you don't have that access, so I've just given it to you...
Since you seem in the know a bit IronBars - do you have any idea when the metal version of the Erainn slingers unit will be available for non-Kickstarter plebs to buy?
Yodhrin wrote: Since you seem in the know a bit IronBars - do you have any idea when the metal version of the Erainn slingers unit will be available for non-Kickstarter plebs to buy?
Pretty confident that Ironbars knows no more than anyone else outside Mierce.
Yodhrin wrote: Since you seem in the know a bit IronBars - do you have any idea when the metal version of the Erainn slingers unit will be available for non-Kickstarter plebs to buy?
Pretty confident that Ironbars knows no more than anyone else outside Mierce.
They evidently know more than I do, which is why I asked.
A bunch more minis hit general release (3rd Feb), the stars are clearly
Nothing quite like the Brute-Corruptors to freshen up your feelings of a February morning! These guys (and gal) are filth, pure filth, which is the way we like our Ysians. Sculpted brilliantly by Jason Hendricks from the artwork by Danny Cruz, the Corruptors of Kraozon, Brute-Corruptor Unit comprises three foul, filthy fellas (and flabby filly) - Fuggug the champion, Udo the fat and the rather tonguey Grung.
although for the lizardly inclined this wyvern conversion looks excellent on his giant base
Ahhh, Gahwn. Converted by Martin Lavat from the original Typhaggahw by Roberto Chaudon, using artwork by Dan Warren and Des Hanley respectively, Gahwn is a huge (100mm base) man-wyvern armed with a bloody great flint-rock thing and a very cute expression. We love this guy!
Delivery conundrums aside, pretty tasty new releases Cute conversion on that man-wyvern, lovingly clutching his flint-rock thing what for to bonk with <3
Yodhrin wrote: Since you seem in the know a bit IronBars - do you have any idea when the metal version of the Erainn slingers unit will be available for non-Kickstarter plebs to buy?
So Mierce just mentioned on the KS comments, that they're getting more metals for Angelcynn and Erainn this month. So I'm guessing the soonest you could see the slingers is by March. If you are hyped to get them you could probably email Mierce and have them alert you when they get there. I'm sure Rob would let you buy an extra set after they fill all the KS orders, but earlier then when they hit the actual store.
Alpharius wrote:What's up with her right arm here:
That doesn't look too comfortable - or natural - at all!
I'm guessing that's why Rob wants to resculpt her!
Thinking about what I do in fairly competitive larp combat archery (arena combat at Odyssey LRP, where arrows ignore armour and do instant incapacitation but are stopped by shields, so you NEED an archer or two on each team!), I think if you're going for the "bring the bow up and then loose" style, which looks cool but is probably not the absolute fastest, you probably have your left arm angled a bit further outward (to the left), so you don't have to do uncomfortable golf elbow rehab stretches* with your right arm.
*I am not a physiotherapist and mentioned golf elbow rehab stretches as a joke. Do not take this as medical advice. But I am pretty sure if you shot enough arrows that way you would need rehab.
for those wondering about Mierce's printer Tim posted on the KS comments
Tim Fisher about 2 hours ago
Haha - no. The printer will be here next week (can't wait to get my new toy!). There's no way I'd be printing those terrain pieces off using our new printer though. Those terrain pieces were huge and would have used up hundreds of pounds worth of printing resin. I used a 3rd party guy who has an FDM printer.
For terrain you use an FDM printer - cheaper to make terrain pieces - the quality is not prototype quality and they can't do fine detail. But for terrain they make some robust, light pieces that do a great job. The raw material is also relatively cheap. it's something we 'might' look at 'one day' in order to make some cool Darklands terrain (kindred specific) that we could obtain some FDM printers and print and ship rather than casting in resin (expensive)
For prototype/master use we need a higher end printer that works in a very different manner to the above. Instead of printing extruded plastic from above it 'prints' by raising a print bed from a resin vat. The resin is cured by laser before going through a couple more finishing/curing processes. This type of printer is more expensive, slower and the raw materials are very expensive. The max size of the prints is also much smaller - but the quality is far, far higher level. The only terrain you would want to print from such a printer would be a master copy that you would then mould for resin casting. Even then you would have to break the terrain piece down in multiple parts and assemble for moulding due to the size limitations of the SLA printers.
yxalitis wrote: Wait...so how are they printing the big parts of Thuulac?
What IS the size limitation?
They're printing the master with the new printer, then will use that copy to make molds. They're saying the new printer wouldn't be suitable for printing off tons of terrain to use for funsies because the material is expensive and it prints slow. Same reason why they arent going to be 3d printing the our minis, but casting them from the prototypes. The people 3d printing gaming terrain for sale are using a different type of printer and material.
yxalitis wrote: Wait...so how are they printing the big parts of Thuulac?
What IS the size limitation?
They're printing the master with the new printer, then will use that copy to make molds. They're saying the new printer wouldn't be suitable for printing off tons of terrain to use for funsies because the material is expensive and it prints slow. Same reason why they arent going to be 3d printing the our minis, but casting them from the prototypes. The people 3d printing gaming terrain for sale are using a different type of printer and material.
Read carefully:
For prototype/master use we need a higher end printer that works in a very different manner to the above. Instead of printing extruded plastic from above it 'prints' by raising a print bed from a resin vat. The resin is cured by laser before going through a couple more finishing/curing processes. This type of printer is more expensive, slower and the raw materials are very expensive. The max size of the prints is also much smaller- but the quality is far, far higher level. The only terrain you would want to print from such a printer would be a master copy that you would then mould for resin casting. Even then you would have to break the terrain piece down in multiple parts and assemble for moulding due to the size limitations of the SLA printers.
Hence my question, Thuulac's upper and lower halves are huge!
But whereas terrain pieces are typically VERY large (an 8 inch wide piece of terrain is fairly common), most large minis don’t come close to that. At best, I can’t imagine thuulac’s center pieces being more that 80mm in diameter, which m sure would fit a lot of printers. I can only assume Bob broke this down into pieces that they knew a printer could handle.
Even if that’s not the case, Bob works in house, so he could break it down further if needed. It’s not going to be an issue.
yxalitis wrote: Wait...so how are they printing the big parts of Thuulac?
What IS the size limitation?
The terrain we were talking about (elsewhere, not on Dakka so I fear something has been lost in translation) was about the size of a dinner plate (for the largest piece) that terrain has nothing whatsoever to do with Mierce or its printer. It was some personal terrain that I had printed to take with me to an AoS tournament my gaming club ran. That's all. In any case as I stated, I'd never print those terrain pieces off on a high end resin printer as the costs would be astronomical. They were instead printed on a relatively low quality FDM printer (via a 3rd party that I know) that produces lightweight, yet robust pieces with a very large print bed (about a foot square!) and at an affordable price. The detail isn't great but for terrain it's absolutely fine. Comparing those terrain pieces both in size and in terms of print quality to the printer we have coming is an apples and oranges situation. As is comparing Thulaac's abdomen with a building-sized piece of terrain that is larger than any assembled mini Mierce produce.
The printer we have coming is not meant to print pieces that are larger than an assembled Archaon! (the terrain mentioned above is that big!) It has a print bed as big as we need it to be and if we ever need to make any parts smaller to fit and then assemble before moulding, we will do. That's why we have a full time digital sculptor after all. Indeed, once printing does commence we may find it necc to change some pieces in order to improve them (as we have in the past with 3d stuff) as on screen vs in the hand can be very different so we might change some stuff if needs be. Again, it's another reason why we employ a sculptor. We have flexibility.
The exact dimensions, brand name etc will not be disclosed. Just like we don't tell people what resin, silicone, casting machines etc etc we use. It's stuff that we will remain behind closed doors, I'm not in the habit of giving others a leg up into what materials, machines etc we use. They can do the hard graft, trial and error and research just like I had to.
The printer we have on the way is the bee's knees. Divvent worry about that. There would be no point in buying one if it couldn't print the minis we need to print to the quality we require.
TLDR?
"They're printing the master with the new printer, then will use that copy to make molds. They're saying the new printer wouldn't be suitable for printing off tons of terrain to use for funsies because the material is expensive and it prints slow. Same reason why they arent going to be 3d printing the our minis, but casting them from the prototypes. The people 3d printing gaming terrain for sale are using a different type of printer and material. "
Bossk_Hogg was bang on. Printers are very much a case of horses for courses. We have the right horse for our course.
yxalitis wrote: Wait...so how are they printing the big parts of Thuulac?
What IS the size limitation?
The terrain we were talking about (elsewhere, not on Dakka so I fear something has been lost in translation) was about the size of a dinner plate (for the largest piece) that terrain has nothing whatsoever to do with Mierce or its printer. It was some personal terrain that I had printed to take with me to an AoS tournament my gaming club ran. That's all. In any case as I stated, I'd never print those terrain pieces off on a high end resin printer as the costs would be astronomical. They were instead printed on a relatively low quality FDM printer (via a 3rd party that I know) that produces lightweight, yet robust pieces with a very large print bed (about a foot square!) and at an affordable price. The detail isn't great but for terrain it's absolutely fine. Comparing those terrain pieces both in size and in terms of print quality to the printer we have coming is an apples and oranges situation. As is comparing Thulaac's abdomen with a building-sized piece of terrain that is larger than any assembled mini Mierce produce.
The printer we have coming is not meant to print pieces that are larger than an assembled Archaon! (the terrain mentioned above is that big!) It has a print bed as big as we need it to be and if we ever need to make any parts smaller to fit and then assemble before moulding, we will do. That's why we have a full time digital sculptor after all. Indeed, once printing does commence we may find it necc to change some pieces in order to improve them (as we have in the past with 3d stuff) as on screen vs in the hand can be very different so we might change some stuff if needs be. Again, it's another reason why we employ a sculptor. We have flexibility.
The exact dimensions, brand name etc will not be disclosed. Just like we don't tell people what resin, silicone, casting machines etc etc we use. It's stuff that we will remain behind closed doors, I'm not in the habit of giving others a leg up into what materials, machines etc we use. They can do the hard graft, trial and error and research just like I had to.
The printer we have on the way is the bee's knees. Divvent worry about that. There would be no point in buying one if it couldn't print the minis we need to print to the quality we require.
TLDR?
"They're printing the master with the new printer, then will use that copy to make molds. They're saying the new printer wouldn't be suitable for printing off tons of terrain to use for funsies because the material is expensive and it prints slow. Same reason why they arent going to be 3d printing the our minis, but casting them from the prototypes. The people 3d printing gaming terrain for sale are using a different type of printer and material. "
Bossk_Hogg was bang on. Printers are very much a case of horses for courses. We have the right horse for our course.
I never subscribe to TLDR< especially when it was only a few sentences.
Yes, I had assumed "terrain" was 60mm - 100mm bases.
All good then, let's see when they actually start shipping these older 3D sculpts!
This is it, folks... what you've all been waiting for. Today, now, this point in time is the end of Darklands: New Kindreds - at least in terms of miniatures! - a fact for which we shall all rejoice, to much muttering and so forth. This project has drawn to a close, finally, and we'd like to thank each and every backer for their funds and their forbearance, because this project has taken a lot longer than we'd hoped to finish.
But: we are here! It is the end!
Sob, sob.
Right. This week we have: •sculpt work in progress updates from Yannick Hennebo; •a link to the forums where you can see this project's fulfilment; •...and anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.
Here we go...
One miniature to reach the end, one miniature to find it, one miniature to bring it to a close, and in the darkness bind them!
Or some such nonsense.
Just one miniature to show this week, and it's for the Byzantii!
The last miniature from New Kindreds reveals his ugly head, for Unmasked Velchior is truly ugly. Truly, truly ugly... but he's meant to be that way, and Yannick Hennebo has only fulfilled his brief!
He'll be a Wave 20 shipment!
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Wahey! Here we go, here we go, here we go...
It's the first update of 2018 for Darklands: Savage Hordes, and thanks to Bob Płociennik, it's a cracker! It's also quite scary, because there's officially Not Much Left In This Project To Do, which is unexpected...
This week we have: •sculpt work in progress updates from Bob Płociennik; •a link to the forums where you can see this project's fulfilment; •...and anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.
Let's gerron wi' it...
In a similar manner to the Werwulf Hunters and the Werwulfas, the Holumenn Bowmen gave us A Problem, because - frankly - the original Holumenn weren't much cop. Again, enter Bob Płociennik, stage left, cackling madly, because when he started working for us we realised that the Holumenn Bowmen wouldn't be A Problem any more because he could kill those two stones with one bird. Wait, that's not right...
Anyway, Bob doing the Holumenn Bowmen means he can also resculpt the Holumenn - which he is doing right now; with the Gorgóraxo next and Stéphane Camosseto beginning work on the Ceorl Freemen, Darklands: Savage Hordes is almost complete.
The Hrafnen Bowmen are progressing at pace thanks to Bob's ministrations, with two miniatures already done and the third underway...
The champion of the unit is known as Logmar, and he loves shooting things whilst standing on skulls.
That left leg will shift over like the Holumann champion's left leg, it's just that Bob hasn't had time to give me that image.
Folki Svensson is of course the banner bearer's alternate, so we'll mess with the legs (so he doesn't look like he's had a runny trump) before he's finished I reckon.
The unit - we're very much hoping - will be ready for Wave 21...
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Amazingly, we have another update for Darklands: Mighty Monsters - and all thanks to Allan Carrasco, who has now completed those lovely Peat Beasts!
This week there's: •sculpt work in progress updates from Mighty Allan Carrasco; •a link to the forums where you can see this project's fulfilment; •...and anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.
Let's head off into the sunset with some...
Three more miniatures to show this week, and all for the Érainn. Who'd a thunk it?
The Beasts of Machairá Peat are now done and dusted, for which we must be thankful to Mighty Allan Carrasco, a legend amongst sculptors if ever there was one.
As this is the end of the unit, we thought we'd show you those that have gone before, too. The champion of the unit (and finished yonks ago), Gainn is a lovely-looking fella...
...even in green.
Arroch is just a warrior from the unit...
...but he's still pretty peaty! Not as peaty as Adam Peaty, the swimmer, but still.
Bréana was done for the last update, but here's a reprise anyway...
...and he's not as peaty as Adam Peaty, either.
Now Tirimaon, he was going to be called Peaty McPeatface...
...but that would make him peatier than Adam Peaty, which is impossible.
Enough of such nonsense. Donnach is a mighty Peat Beast warrior, as likely to eat you as drink you. What do they know of peat, whom only peat know?
The unit should be a Wave 21 shipment! Huzzah!
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It's been another long while since an update on this project, but Darklands: Mighty Monsters Part Deux is still progressing, even if only at a snail's pace.
This week we have:
•sculpt work in progress updates from Yannick Fusier;
•a link to the forums where you can see this project's fulfilment;
•...and anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.
Let's crack on...
Just one miniature to show, and it's all thanks to Yannick finishing up his Christmas-related activities, which sounds a lot more sinister than it should be.
Konraad's Mob is, of course, the Great Club Ograx Reiver Unit, and Konraad himself gets the treatment this time...
The champion of Konraad's Mob is Konraad, and he has a great big club thing.
I'm making no predictions on when this unit will be done... but I'm hoping they'll be done for the summer. If anyone has any thumbscrews, send them in please!
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After a fair delay, we have a lovely update for Darklands: Starter Hosts this week as Valentin Zak has been beavering away for us...
This week we have:
•sculpt work in progress updates from Valentin Zak;
•a reminder of the change to the way these updates work;
•...and anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.
Let's look at some...
The Albainn gained a new warchief in Darklands: Starter Hosts, and not before time. Valentin Zak got the job of sculpting him...
Brude is an Aurmaer, a host champion for the Albainn, and Valentin Zak has done a stand up job on him so far!
He should be a Wave 21 shipment, and once this version is done we'll mould him and send him back so he can do the other versions...
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Here's another superb update for Darklands: Savage Hordes IV, courtesty of Our Bob, who is utterly killing these guys. Figuratively speaking.
This week we have:
•sculpt work in progress updates from Bob Płociennik;
•a link to the forums where you can see this project's fulfilment;
•...and anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.
Let's crack on!
There's three miniatures to show today, and all for the Norse. These guys are bloody awesome. Nice one Bob!
The Hrafnen Crew are being resculpted now because Bob is sculpting the Hrafnen Bowmen from Darklands: Savage Hordes, and it should be noted that each will have the option to be armed with sword and shield, spear and shield, axe and shield and sword and axe. As well as that, you'll have options to pop an axe, sword or shield on their backs for a myriad combinations of weapons and shields.
Vidkun the Brave is the champion of the Hrafnen Crew and he is suitably attired with a nice helmet and a mean expression. Not that you can see his expression, mind, but trust us, it's there...
Sword and shield...
Spear and shield...
Axe and shield...
Axe and sword...
Note that the legs are fixed on this version, and the others' legs will be the same as this one.
The banner bearer of the unit is Snorri Snorrison...
...really he's called a Merkismann, but I can't be bothered to change the title above.
Now Sveinn is the alternate warrior version of Snorri, and he's still a cracking miniature - although we'll have to fix those legs, we think, as they're a bit okkard, as we say in Mansfield.
Sword and shield...
Spear and shield...
Axe and shield...
Sword and axe...
These guys, we very much hope, will be a Wave 21 shipment... but we'll see.
are we expecting something to happen? I placed an order and it shipped on Friday. We are up to 4 players locally and a bunch of interests after our first demo day.
Price is a factor and the rules take a bit to get used to, but showing the rules is much easier to get a grasp of whats going on instead of trying to read and figure stuff out.
They just shipped a buunch of my stuff. We get regular updates, they have a printer coming to get the renders made, Bob has been plowing through the backlog. I really don't think there's a vast conspiracy. They overextended themselves on SH3 and some of the alt sculpts, but they seem to be working on catching up.
Our buy one get one free promotions have proved very popular in the past and we get loads of requests for more of them; and as always, never ones to turn down requests, we've bowed to that pressure!
So we're giving a monster away for FREE if you purchase any monster from our webstore, starting from now until midnight (GMT) on Monday the 26th of February 2018!
Crémharunc, Beast of Geannain Earth
How do I choose the free monster?
All you need to do is purchase a monster, and then tell us which free monster you'd like in the "special instructions" box when you go through the basket. The only qualifications are that both the monster you're purchasing and the monster you want for free must be listed below and it must be either cheaper than or equal in price to the monster you are purchasing! As well as that, you can purchase as many monsters as you'd like and you'll still get a free monster for each one!
PLEASE DO NOT USE ANY VOUCHER CODES. Any orders using voucher codes will be rejected. Tiered discounts do apply - the more you purchase, the cheaper your monsters will be! What's on offer?
Pretty much any monster is covered by this offer - so, Darklands monsters and BaneLegions monsters - with only Kickstarter monsters not a part of it. Even so, there's so many monsters in our range that you're spoilt for choice!
Your "Buy one monster, get one monster free" offer ends on Monday the 26th of February 2018 at midnight (GMT), and you really do have some superb monsters to spend your hard-earned cash on!
Not only can you get your hands on some of our quite amazing back catalogue, such as Krull or The Terror of Fortriu or Angrislaug or tons of others, there's also our superb new-ish releases, such as Conjunct X, Great Axe Krull or the utterly stunning Gahwn (shown above) or B'ahl'kch'in!
All of the Darklands and BaneLegions monsters within our webstore can take part - anything on 80mm bases or above - but here's a full list so it's nice and clear (bold monsters have been released since the last promotion; monsters in italics may be pre-ordered):
ALBAINN: Ciniod on Aurogg - Oso - Magágg - Cormorágg - Gorugg - Gogg - Bogogg - Gomagg - Ettu ANGLECYNN: Mihtlāf - Creoda - Cnebba ATALANTES: Dynatos - Talos - Kretos BRYTHONIAID: Geraint Nerthol, Teyrn of Cedweli on Ceffyldraig - Aradae Mawr - Scaeroc - Angrislaug - Parawn - Glaun - Typhaggahw - Gahwn - Gynroch ap Roch - Bronn ap Banbronn BYZANTII: Erebius, Demiurion on Behema - Sia - Iqqud - Onumo - Tykho - Ulmons ÉRAINN: Mórannach - Crémharunc* - Cúlaítar - Dairdubh FOMORAIC: Belech - Galagaak - Gunaal - Cqaa - Maallolvór - Maatmäg - Maaru - Kaairioc-cró - Uuthüll - Shaaroc - Vaak INFERNII: Krull - Great Axe Krull - Ammon - Malacant - Great Axe Malacant - Choloch - Brontull - Xet* - Zhull JUTES: Thacaldān - Guliant - Culgulc - Angol - Gol Gul KHTHONES: Ophios - Sthena - Ágriosávra, Sun Warrior on Sávrakh - Chysperis - Ischys - Kadámastar - Aggrakk - Mazikíliás - Krekkek - Ygandr - Khallas - Iskarnos NORSE: Birna on Fellhrafn - Vaenhildr - Hrókr - Egaendr - Hrudinn - Mälmord - Blood-Maw - Mjagnir - Stígr VRAS: Blunt-Claw, Vras-Lord on Goz-Horror - Scar-Scath - Back-Cracker - Flint-Fang YSIANS: Euryalia - Torku - Druc - Hammer-Druc - Conjunct X - Conjunct XIII - The Terror of Fortriu - Ungefelic BANELORDS: Grimbash, Orc Warlord on Wyvern - Buggrom of Ulmo, Orc Warlord with Great Weapon on Wyvern - Shazham, Orc Shaman on Wyvern - Queefus, Bone Orc Shaman on Wyvern - Malek, Black Ælf Lord on Dragon BANEBEASTS: Fulroch-an-Roch - Angalaak - Three-Face - N'nhaak'chshir - Oácyning - Tygandr - Ophius - N'nhohbr'hoth - Proteanc - Lamashti - Khan-Wrath - Gore-Fang - Scar-Claw - Kholukk - S'hcrhro'tum-b'hoss - Angaakk - Hetseentcha - The Horror of Scumasthorpe - Papworth the Pillager - Borruk - Old Bill of Bell End - Zazel - N'nhohbr'hurt'hs - Tetseenx - Khan-Fury - Bee'hhckd'hkkk - B'ahl'kch'in
* These monsters are not yet released to the general public, although they are being sculpted and cast for Kickstarter backers. You may still purchase these units and the individual warriors within them, but your order will only be shipped after they are sent to the Kickstarter backers that ordered them. Additionally, these units will only be available on the webstore until this promotion ends.
Happy Ordering!
Ugggggggh I might dodge this one since I'm waiting on the big crocs to drop this summer
But there is a bunch of new big dudes - RT, your boy Gahwn is in there, bopping stick and all
And you're right, Crémharunc is the hardest to resist! If anyone is interested in splitting an order (so basically giving us half price instead of buy-one-get-one) please PM me
RiTides wrote: Oh my gosh, they're both so tempting! Hmmmmmm
So RiTides, are you specifically a fan of swamp type beasts, like the Mierce Peat beasts, and DC's Swamp Thing, or do you just like Plant/Earth creatures in general, like the Mierce Fenn Beasts, and Groot?
Be warned, it is a VERY big miniature!
Thankfully it was cast as hollow pieces, which works really well...Mierce actually would have preferred a solid hunk of resin, I'm glad it wasn't done that way!.
All miniatures have gotten so big over the past decade or so, kinda annoys me...
My first minis were 2-3 cm tall...a BIG minis was 10cm...
a HUGE mini was 15cm.
Hey everyone! I wanted to share with you my newest commission job. Still WIP, but very advanced one. Really nice alternatives to the GW Ogres. These ones are made by Mierce Miniatures. I hope you like them! My main inspiration was Maui from the recent Disney movie Moana
Bohun is doing a commission with some Mierce Oghurs and posted it on facebook so I thought folk here would like to see (and be terrifyingly impressed by the tattoos)
Hey everyone! I wanted to share with you my newest commission job. Still WIP, but very advanced one. Really nice alternatives to the GW Ogres. These ones are made by Mierce Miniatures. I hope you like them! My main inspiration was Maui from the recent Disney movie Moana
Bohun is doing a commission with some Mierce Oghurs and posted it on facebook so I thought folk here would like to see (and be terrifyingly impressed by the tattoos)
His work is one of those where I'm not sure whether to be inspired or throw my painting equipment out. Generally I fall on the side of being inspired....just about.
The Hrafnen Bowmen are now done! Huzzah! Bob's sterling work for these guys means they're going to be blimmin' awesome, and no mistake!
The champion - Logmar - has been seen before, of course, but here's a reprise...
You'll get a pile of skulls and a tree stump for him to stand on (see the Vidkun the Brave in the Darklands: Savage Hordes IV update later today). Then it's your choice!
The ex-banner-bearer, Folki Svensson, now has different legs...
...because the old ones made him look like he was on the toilet standing up. A bit.
Now the ones you've not seen yet - here's Alvíss...
...named after Alvis the awesome car makers, of course. Well, once-car-makers.
Another warrior, Bjorn is not a member of ABBA.
Well, a different Bjorn was!
The last warrior of the unit is Haraldr - our favourite!
We decided to get Didier to Do Daghdha Lúg, and he's certainly come up trumps. There's a bit to do - not least the "glowy thing" as Didier puts it - but he's getting there!
He'll hopefully be a Wave 21 shipment, and we advise you to purchase him now, because he's turned out a bit bigger than we thought he'd be!
Brude the awesome Albainn host champion is looking utterly superb, as you can see! We'll mould him and then send him back to Valentin for his alternates, of course...
He should be a Wave 21 shipment in this form, though!
Boss Salvage wrote: Mierce does so many great tree / peat / earth dudes, and so often gigantic as well
- Salvage
There's a lot I love about the varied kindreds in Darklands, and the figures most certainly don't disappoint either. Every kindred has a very interesting trait, whether it be the historically accurate infantry, real life (though slightly exaggerated) heroes, or mythical creatures re imagined in interesting ways. It really is tough to choose just one army over another.
Ive connected with two other people in the Minneapolis/Saint Paul, MN metro area to form a local group for Darklands. If anyone reading this thread is in the area, drop me a PM and lets connect!
A Birdy Wizard, Some Hurty Snakes and Some Shooty Snakes
Well this project is, rather amazingly, almost complete - and that's down to the sterling work of Bob Płociennik, of course (although the last miniatures to be done will be by Stéphane Camosseto).
Here we go:
We have some Awesome Things for you this week and no mistake. We have a fantastic resculpt for the Norse and an amazing set of reworkings and a superb set of conversions for the Khthones!
With the miniatures shown today done, that just leaves the Ceorl Freemen for this project, amazingly - and Stéphane Camosseto is already working on them...
With the completion of the Hrafnen Bowmen recently and the Hrafnar a while back, we had another look at the Holumann Bowman Support Host which included Birna and Brynhild the raven-wizard. With Birna soon to be resculpted, Brynhild got all jealous and petulant, so we gave in and handed Bob another resculpt.
Here's the new Brynhild Gunnblindi - Brynhild Battle-Blinder - for the Norse!
She'll come with two head options, with raven-hat (for want of a better term) or fancy free and footloose, i.e., without raven-hat. We spoil you lot!
You can pre-order her in the Darklands: Savage Hordes category:
Now, if you ordered her as part of the Holumann Bowmen host and haven't received her, you'll receive the new one without having to purchase her. If you've not got her, go get her now!
She should be a Wave 22 shipment in resin, Wave 23 in metal! We've tons of things to print and sort before her and it would be unwise to give improper dates.
With Bob converting the Gorgórar into Gorgóraxo (giving them bows) we thought it would be time to correct a few things on the original Dawn of Khthon sculpts - namely, thickening up the spear hafts, sorting out a few errant flappy things that just got in the way of casting and making sure the tails fit properly into a 50mm base as we just weren't satisfied with the physical moulds.
Again, if there are any Gorgórar in our orders that haven't yet been sent, unless you state otherwise we'll send out what we have until these guys are printed and moulded and cast. So say something to us if that's the case!
The champion of the unit is Myrinna...
...her haft has been thickened!
The banner bearer is Syntyss...
...we fixed her tail and thickened her haft up real nice.
Thillia of the Thickened Haft is the herald of the unit...
...you can tell by the rattler on her tail end. Oo-er.
A standard warrior, is Phyllidii...
...and again, we fixed up her tail and thickened her spear haft.
Elthissi. Another standard warrior.
Haft Thickened. Tail Sorted. Flappy Things Now Unflappy.
Tyssia is the warrior version of Syntyss.
She's sorted now too.
Lithil is the warrior version of Thillia.
Again, these guys will probably be Wave 22 to be honest - we've tons to print before then. They'll be in metal for Wave 23, we hope.
Now the Gorgóraxo are bow-armed versions of the Gorgórar, and they've turned out rather well, we think! All thanks to Bob of course!
The champion of the unit is Yrinna...
...she has to be careful she doesn't get her tail in a twist!
Tyss is Syntyss with a bow, of course...
...her tail's carefully wrapped around herself, as you can see. No chance of tail entrapment there.
Illia is the sister of Thillia...
...ah yes, the tail pointing upwards is a bit of a warning.
Lliddi is a version of Phyllidii...
...a version with a bow! No tail worries here.
This one's easy. Selthi is the bow version of Elthissi. No, really.
Again, these guys will be Wave 22 and Wave 23, we hope!
It's another update for Darklands: Savage Hordes II, and things are getting tasty!
Let's make a start!
There's two miniatures to show this week and they're both bloody awesome, although we would say that. The Érainn and the Byzantii get the treatment!
The In IV Herod, Ignilegionarius Incaendium contains three hellfire-throwing Demilegionarii, and will all be sculpted by the amazing Yannick Hennebo (just like the originals). Here's the first one...
Frantius is an Ignilegionarius warrior, and looks mighty impressive (and rather barrel-chested!)
What a fantastic miniature!
The unit, we think, will probably be a Wave 22 shipment. We can't wait for the rest!
Didier Fancagne has been happily sculpting Daghdha Lúg, as you can see - he looks great!
He's finished, so he'll be a Wave 21 shipment we think.
That page shows that the 3D print is in-hand for both of these, were they done in-house or are you still waiting on / setting up your machine? I'd love to see some printed masters from it when it's ready
There're not going to be showing masters as the colour of the resin & support placement will give away what printer they've gone for and that's a trade secret (annoying for us watchers but probably understandable),
but from the sound of it we may get to see the first casts from the home printed masters next time round as it's up and running and producing quality stuff
Tim Fisher (Chief Mould Maker and 3D Printer keeper)
Won't be showing prints - once the prod moulds from the prints are running we'll show you the casts, as that's what you'll actually receive. You've seen the sculpts and you'll also see the casts. No one will receive prints (and some people still think we'll be printing and shipping prints - we won't, that'd cost a fortune!), we'll be using the prints as masters to mould from.
Reason for not showing off the prints is entirely selfish on our (my) part. I spent a lot of time researching 3d printers, set up meetings with various reps, sorting and reviewing samples = many hours spent.
I can identify most 3d printers just from the prints (especially resin colour and supports) - so I'll be damned if I'm giving anyone else looking to buy a 3d printer capable of proving master mould quality miniatures/prints a leg up. They can put the graft in, just like I did, rather than them taking a short cut off of our back. We do get asked about what printer we purchased and just like our resin, silicone and other 'trade secrets' we tell people to go and tickle (we get asked all the time about our resin and silicone and no doubt we'll be asked about the printer too). We've spent a lot of time and money on our production and the printer is a part of that and we keep our cards close to our chest. There's a fair few people that want to make minis as awesome as ours and they can go and learn the hard way.
Printed so far
Garric (all variants) - printed him first as he's summat smaller to start with
Gallon Garreg - then we had a go at summat a bit bigger.
Uulo (Nucranca) - bigger still and LOADS of parts (about 20 per Nucranca)
WiP Rest of Nucranca and then Thullac next on the print list followed by Banbreca and pretty much 'in order of date sculpted/KS campaign' from there on.
Garric and Gallon are now in the Q for master and prod moulding. Just need to clean up Uulo's prints and he'll be in the Q as well (after today) - I'd expect pics of Garric and Gallon's casts in the Mierceday on the 23rd March (which is also the day I take a week's vacation with my family so it's a day to look forward to for all of us! :0P )
The printer is fantastic - details very good, on par, if not better than the Dreaguth, Gasts etc. It takes 4-8 hours per print build - as a guide Uulo's parts have taken 6 separate builds, he has some pretty big and chunky components - ( also at the KS price the Nucranca are a bargain! I'd get some now as the RRP may well go up!) , so it does take a while. (should have been 5 builds but a couple of parts needed re-printing and that happens as we get to grips with the tech, I don't approve anything that isn't top quality so there's an occasional re-print required on some parts)
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: There're not going to be showing masters as the colour of the resin & support placement will give away what printer they've gone for and that's a trade secret (annoying for us watchers but probably understandable),
Honestly I sniggered a bit at that one. Trade secret? Calm down dear, as they say. More like the guy was looking for a more reasonable sounding justification for refusing to tell people than his initial "I had to do all the boring research, so you should have to do it to! Bloody kids these days etc" sentiment. He has the right to refuse of course, there's just no reason to that isn't a bit petty, it'd be like me going commercial with my sculpting and refusing to tell people what mixture of putty I spent years figuring out works in any given situation - I could do that, but why would I when there's no conceivable way it could harm my business.
ArtIsGreat wrote:Are they Ever going to give the board game ks another go? They have snakemen and lots of cool beast folk but they went with...bugs and skeletons wtf
Well, it looks like there may be a darkholds (the board game) demo at Salute this year. Bish is making the table.
A Byzantii dungeon, to match his amazing Byzantii temple he did for a demo board last year.
Wish I could see them in person...
SlaveToDorkness wrote:Seriously? Do they just bang on their keyboards to get names now?
I like both though but can't navigate the site and names to ever really purchase anything.
This 'Blight' creatures are literally just supposed to be weird things spelled out over-phonetically. These two aren't for sale yet IIRC, they'll be on the front page next month.
Always worth grabbing some of these. I've chosen 3 Albainn, one Erainn and one Fomoraic this time around. If I had a ton of disposable cash I would have probably bought all 12 Norse ones. I reckon you'd get an absolute trove of miniatures from that.
SlaveToDorkness wrote: Seriously? Do they just bank on their keyboards to get names now?
I like both though but can't navigate the site and names to ever really purchase anything.
The Darklands names tend to be based on real Darkage language so can be a bit impenetrable until you get your eye in
but these aresome of the god of rot's favourite medical conditions (or pure schoolboy humour's idea of them anyway Canker Cock and Syphilis)
MOST of them are, yes, but some of the recent mods are jsut keyboard bashing:
sthif'hih'liss
kanka'k'ohkh,
n'nhaak'chshir
n'nhohbr'hoth
s'hcrhro'tum-b'hoss
bee'hhckd'hkkk
Come on, really?
And sticking some tentacles into the mouth of the worm is a lazy mod IMHO.
I do like that mouth though, I am using it to replace the mouth/head on the PP Hordes Blightbringer...
So do you "get" that they're blatantly obvious, or are they just keyboard bashing?
Pick a side dude.
As for being sad and pathetic, perhaps dial down the hyperbole? I mean, ok, they're silly and, ultimately, a little puerile and not all that funny, but I think you're taking it a little too personally if that's your reaction. I'm also pretty confident that anyone who was keen to buy wouldn't be put off by the name, or by needing to cut and paste the name, or by going to the specific section of the website and identifying the model visually.
There's fair criticism and taking things a little too seriously.
Let's dial things back a hair in here - disagreeing is fine, of course, but we ask that everyone do so politely and without insults.
Thanks all!
Regarding (my personal take) on the names, we've discussed this a lot previously and Mierce doesn't seem open to changing it. Certainly does make googling for specific creatures an adventure, though
Azreal13 wrote: So do you "get" that they're blatantly obvious, or are they just keyboard bashing?
Pick a side dude.
As for being sad and pathetic, perhaps dial down the hyperbole? I mean, ok, they're silly and, ultimately, a little puerile and not all that funny, but I think you're taking it a little too personally if that's your reaction. I'm also pretty confident that anyone who was keen to buy wouldn't be put off by the name, or by needing to cut and paste the name, or by going to the specific section of the website and identifying the model visually.
There's fair criticism and taking things a little too seriously.
OK I can see where you’re coming from, so let me explain where I’m coming from.
I was a huge Mierce fan, from when they were actually Maelstrom Games, and I was buying Banelords.
That company folded, leaving a few people out of pocket, then reappeared as Mierce, and launched their first highly successful Kickstarter.
I was on board from day 1, I have an entire display cabinet full of their magnificent minis.
But then they just kept creating more and more kickstarters, the time frame for delivery kept getting longer and longer, and they seemed to being having a hard time doing basic stuff like creating better image disaplys of their minis, putting together some assembly instructions, fixing their laggy website, etc.
And then I and others became a little worried about the financials, and that they were using kickstarters to keep the business running.
I have over $500 AUD tied up with them, and I don’t even get response to my emails anymore, and I am STILL waiting for orders placed and paid for over 2 years ago.
yxalitis wrote: and I am STILL waiting for orders placed and paid for over 2 years ago.
So, yeah, I’m a little jaded.
Only two? I'm coming up on 4 years for some of mine which are for a project they don't even update anymore because apparently it's finished, and yes I have enough shipment items. Shocking.
yxalitis wrote: and I am STILL waiting for orders placed and paid for over 2 years ago.
So, yeah, I’m a little jaded.
Only two? I'm coming up on 4 years for some of mine which are for a project they don't even update anymore because apparently it's finished, and yes I have enough shipment items. Shocking.
Oh really, what are you waitng for?
One of mine still hasn't even been sculpted...Uuroch. Funded about 18 months ago.
He's still 3rd on the list for Yannick to do:
YANNICK FUSIER: He'll be doing Murcunn, the Oghureach Unit and Uuroch
I notuced they considred a model "done" when the 3d scukpt was completed, even though that was not able to be printed.
At least we should see Branbreca and Thuuluc soonish.
yxalitis wrote: and I am STILL waiting for orders placed and paid for over 2 years ago.
So, yeah, I’m a little jaded.
Only two? I'm coming up on 4 years for some of mine which are for a project they don't even update anymore because apparently it's finished, and yes I have enough shipment items. Shocking.
Oh really, what are you waitng for?
One of mine still hasn't even been sculpted...Uuroch. Funded about 18 months ago.
He's still 3rd on the list for Yannick to do:
YANNICK FUSIER: He'll be doing Murcunn, the Oghureach Unit and Uuroch
I notuced they considred a model "done" when the 3d scukpt was completed, even though that was not able to be printed.
At least we should see Branbreca and Thuuluc soonish.
It's a bunch of Ysians, Trolls and Kthones for New Kindreds, so more like three and a half years now I've had a look (it was the fact the order date was in 2014 that was throwing me off) and then I have an order that has just gone over 2 years from Feb 2016, but I know what's happening with that.
Taaloc wrote:It's a bunch of Ysians, Trolls and Kthones for New Kindreds, so more like three and a half years now I've had a look (it was the fact the order date was in 2014 that was throwing me off) and then I have an order that has just gone over 2 years from Feb 2016, but I know what's happening with that.
If you do have enough shipping items, I'd just ping Mierce and let them know you want them sent. I just received the last of my NK order this week, and I'm pretty sure everything is done for that project.
yxalitis wrote:At least we should see Branbreca and Thuuluc soonish.
Yeah, supposedly, we'll see first casts the Nucranca unit, and a few other things that they've gotten printed on Friday this week. I'm guessing ol' Thuulac, and Banbreca will take a bit, as they're both big, and there's 2 versions of one, and 3 of the other, but we'll see.
It's time for another update for Darklands: Savage Hordes IV, and what an update it is...
Ready? We are!
Only one miniature to show this week, but it's an absolute belter, and for the Norse!
Predictably, Bob's work on the Norse goes from strength to strength, and Steinn the Bold is utterly, utterly brilliant. Or at least, the Grundtroll is - and we're very much expecting Steinn to complement this awesome monstrosity...
Here's the Grundtroll with a man on it... not Steinn: it's our old friend Garric, not yet turned into Steinn of course!
Now you can see how big the Grundtroll is! You'll note the Grundtroll's pose is rather more dynamic than the artwork - that's deliberate.
Now, we think this guy will be a Wave 22 shipment in resin and a Wave 23 shipment in metal (well, the foot version anyway) - really that's all down to the printing backlog, if we're honest! But he'll be with you soon enough...
Automatically Appended Next Post: And, an important moment:
The cast from their first 3D Print Run!
Printed Garric
With the 3D printer up and running, we thought it would be a good idea to show you images of our first (moulded) prints!
Here we go:
We've three miniatures to show you this week - all variants of the original Garric! We thought we'd lump them all in the same project to save confusion. You must forgive the photographs, too - they're not studio photographs, just what Tim's taken on his phone.
The original Garric is the banner bearer, of course; the one we're showing is Helmed Garric, a project exclusive miniature. If you didn't order him you'll get the banner version with the flowing hair version of Garric.
The next version of Garric is Warrior Garric - sans banner, basically, and now left handed!
Here's Archer Garric, too! Although he's back to being right handed here. Garric, in case you didn't work it out for yourself, is ambidextrous...
So there you have it - the first casts of 3D prints from Mierce Miniatures. A great day!
That Grundtroll model is sweet!!! Good to see them acknowledge that printing backlog is the holdup, not casting. I'd love to see them update more on that as they get their printer working.
Edit: Ninja'ed by the second update! However, while I think it will work great for monster-sized models, I'm not sure about the level of quality we're seeing in those man-sized casts from their first prints above. Hmm...
I think it looks pretty good, but I'm comparing it to a "world class" standard, like Zealot Miniatures' prints:
That's not a direct comparison (it's a larger model, showed the actual print, etc). But if I think about other "world class" digitally sculpted models, like Kingdom Death or even Games Workshop, the end result has a level of detail that is basically identical to the render.
I don't think these fit the same "world class" level of detail / transition from render to print. Still quite good, though, and I'm looking forward to their printing monsters (what I always back for, anyway ) .
Those aren't prints they're (production) casts from the prints if you read the very bottom of the update
(but the resin does look a bit translucent, wonder if it's another supplier change or just low on dye)
oh and from the comments
19-time creator about 3 hours ago
So there you have it - the first casts of our first prints.
That means Garric (4 versions), Galon Garreg, the Núcranca and most of the Ballista and crew are now printed; next up is Thuulac, then Banbreca. Tim's off next week and the rest of us haven't done anything with the printer yet, so it'll be April before you see anything else I expect.
It's not paid for itself yet, but a significant chunk of it has been - what we've printed already would have cost around £3,000+. We were quoted £600-odd for each Núcranc...
Production casts or no, when I saw the email I kinda felt they looked like (admittedly high quality) PVC casts rather than the usual sharpness I'd expect from Mierce resin or metal.
I mean, I wouldn't be disgusted if that's what I ended up with should I buy them, but if there's technical reasons, either photographic or manufacturing, why that image isn't indicative of typical finished quality, it was probably better to wait and share a better image/cast in a week or two.
I mean, can anyone see a customer sat on the fence about those models being convinced to drop £50 or so on a unit on the basis of that image? Because personally I can only see the reverse happening.
Azreal13 wrote: Production casts or no, when I saw the email I kinda felt they looked like (admittedly high quality) PVC casts rather than the usual sharpness I'd expect from Mierce resin or metal.
I mean, I wouldn't be disgusted if that's what I ended up with should I buy them, but if there's technical reasons, either photographic or manufacturing, why that image isn't indicative of typical finished quality, it was probably better to wait and share a better image/cast in a week or two.
I mean, can anyone see a customer sat on the fence about those models being convinced to drop £50 or so on a unit on the basis of that image? Because personally I can only see the reverse happening.
I thought so too. Part of that is just the design. Garrick is just a kind of boring model in comparison to other Mierce offerings. He's got a flat, 2D pose, so from his profile alone he looks like a one piece PVC cast. Not a lot of flair on him or wear and tear on the armor. Bob's other stuff is better IMO, but I think this is one of his earliest works we've seen realized in a physical state.
I'd be really surprised if it was the printer as even a cheap $800 resin printer should be able to easily print that Garrick model. I've seen way more detailed stuff come out of those.
It looks like the photography. Reminds me of the Conan kickstarter where most things were done in a similar color and everyone complained about how soft all the detail was until they got the pieces in hand.
I really hope that with their push to 3d modeling and printing things Mierce minis finally become somewhat less time-consuming to assemble. Every single resin model I've got from them I'd had to rework joints as they never fit as casted and I'm pretty tired of spending more time assembling a miniature then I do painting it.
Monkeysloth wrote: I'd be really surprised if it was the printer as even a cheap $800 resin printer should be able to easily print that Garrick model. I've seen way more detailed stuff come out of those.
It looks like the photography. Reminds me of the Conan kickstarter where most things were done in a similar color and everyone complained about how soft all the detail was until they got the pieces in hand.
I really hope that with their push to 3d modeling and printing things Mierce minis finally become somewhat less time-consuming to assemble. Every single resin model I've got from them I'd had to rework joints as they never fit as casted and I'm pretty tired of spending more time assembling a miniature then I do painting it.
I doubt it...why would a 3D printer help in that regard?
It's not the design, but the moulding that lets them down in that department.
Roberto Chaudon for example puts lovely coded little pins and sockets in his design to assist construction.
But when they get moulded, more often than not these are totally blasted away by the big fat injection pin.
Same with some of the 3D printed stuff already cast…
So even though the 3D printed master may have all these lovely connecting pins and sockets, it’s up to the casting to make sure these remain intact.
Sometimes they do, most often they don’t.
When I compare the casting from Mierce to other companies, especially the Rackham stuff from CMON, I have to wonder why they find it so hard to leave the pins and socket unmolestered.
The Rackham Hydra, Dragon, Flesh Golem, and Belial are all amazingly detailed, wonderful miniatures, that you can put together without glue they are so fantastically designed!
I'm really not liking how they're looking - at least in pictures.
Maybe something is being lost in translation here, but so far, they don't look to compare well (at all) with traditional sculpts that are then turned into casts.
Monkeysloth wrote: I'd be really surprised if it was the printer as even a cheap $800 resin printer should be able to easily print that Garrick model. I've seen way more detailed stuff come out of those.
It looks like the photography. Reminds me of the Conan kickstarter where most things were done in a similar color and everyone complained about how soft all the detail was until they got the pieces in hand.
I really hope that with their push to 3d modeling and printing things Mierce minis finally become somewhat less time-consuming to assemble. Every single resin model I've got from them I'd had to rework joints as they never fit as casted and I'm pretty tired of spending more time assembling a miniature then I do painting it.
I doubt it...why would a 3D printer help in that regard?
It's not the design, but the moulding that lets them down in that department.
Roberto Chaudon for example puts lovely coded little pins and sockets in his design to assist construction.
But when they get moulded, more often than not these are totally blasted away by the big fat injection pin.
Same with some of the 3D printed stuff already cast…
So even though the 3D printed master may have all these lovely connecting pins and sockets, it’s up to the casting to make sure these remain intact.
Sometimes they do, most often they don’t.
When I compare the casting from Mierce to other companies, especially the Rackham stuff from CMON, I have to wonder why they find it so hard to leave the pins and socket unmolestered.
The Rackham Hydra, Dragon, Flesh Golem, and Belial are all amazingly detailed, wonderful miniatures, that you can put together without glue they are so fantastically designed!
While it's true there's problems caused by how they mold most of what I've assembled from Mierce in the past 2 weeks has had no attempt at all for pins and such to even be ruined by the molds. I'm painting the Fen Beasts now and I would have loved to have at least some discernable surface to tell me that something is suppose to be glued there. Hell they don't even have flat cuts but strange dimpled areas that can't even pass for a connection that you just have to end up greenstuffing and trying to make look decent as no matter how much you clean them you can never tell what the original shape was as they rarely follow any sort of, well, common sense when it comes to how parts should go together. How they do the molds just makes it way worse.
I have to roll my eyes when they talk about how great and secret their process is as I don't believe their cast quality is any better or worse then most other resin I've used (outside of the joints which are the worst I've ever seen) but their stuff looks as good as it does due to the art direction and quality of the sculpts themselves.
Tim Fisher First pulls of Tower Banbreca from the new mould. Come see him on Sat at Salute! I’ll be assembling this guy this afternoon and he’ll be on display in our cabinets at Salute
Automatically Appended Next Post: Looks really sharp
wonder if the resin is a different mix from the previous stuff that was being questioned as its more the "normal" look I expect from Mierce (they have use other stuff at times)
Mysterio wrote: Are the skulls on the giant's belt smaller than the skulls of the skeletons on his battle platform?
Are the skulls on his belt from some up until now unknown Darklands race of...diminutive demi-humans?
Or are they just decorations?
Oh, good catch!
Alright, let me just make a note on that " Skulls on Giant Skeleton's (with huge magic lantern full of Glowing skulls) belt seem smaller than the skull of the skeletal warriors riding on the make shift tower on his/her back".
I'll file that right between "Snake women created by Atlantean greek spin-off culture should not have breasts", and " Mythological creatures such as Dragons would never walk on their knuckles".
I'm joking of course, but realistically, with their new printer, I bet Bob could increase the size of the skulls on his/her belt a bit more, and just reprint that piece again.
It's actually perfectly reasonable to have skulls of different sizes in Mierce's world, as many things have human-like skulls.
Krull has bigger skulls on his belt, as he goes after bigger prey...and look how many humanoids there are of all sizes.
This is a world were there aint just humans to leave skulls behind!
(Wow, I'm actually defending Mierce here, who'd have thunk?)
Hopefully I haven'y totally blown my 7 years of purchasing good will, as I am waiting for my Branbeca to move into "packing" status.
I did ask for a frankenstein mix of parts: Capture Branbeca with the lantern'o'skulls and one-handed axe of instead of the captive and 2-handed axe.basically, I'm not a fan of the big boots the other versions wear. (Who made them?).
So hopefully it will move into packing soon...!
We have another update for Darklands: Savage Hordes II this week, and what a lovely update it is.
Let's make a start!
Three miniatures to show this week, and all for the Byzantii. How lovely!
Three lovely fire demons to show this week, all for the Byzantii of course, and all from the talented hands of Yannick Hennebo...
The leader of the unit, Herod, is really showing that fire in quite an unorthodox and original way, but his comportment could be better.
Perhaps a 7 out of 10.
Aurus is performing the Estonian Fowl Throw, a complicated maneouvre involving a chicken, some Doritos and a lot of hellfire mixed with parsley sauce.
It's a 6 out of 10 from us; his footwork isn't all it could be.
We've seen Frantius before, of course, but we'll show him again - and we'll give him 8 out of 10 for the double-axle generation and textbook standing show-off, like Joe Root pushing one through the covers effortlessly. He's this week's winner!
Ahem. Anyway, these guys should be with us soon, so we reckon you're looking at Wave 22 for the Ignilegionarii...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hippos!
Hungry Hippos!
It's been a few months since the last update here, but things are moving behind the scenes, not the least of which are Timmy's bowels - but that's a story for another day.
Anyway, we hope you're sitting down for this one, because it's a blimmin' cracker.
Here we go...
Two lovely Byzantii miniatures to show off thanks to Allan this week. We don't really know what hippos sound like, so we're all singing the theme to Rainbow thanks to cuddly George, the hippo. For those under 40 or not British: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fhOPHtOtw. Yes, it's safe for work, before you ask.
There's not a finer sight in all Christendom than to see a bunch of fat, angry hippo-men charging at you with great big clubs and rather large mouths... especially if they're sculpted by Allan Carrasco!
The leader of the vulgus (that's unit to you and me) - called a Tertius - is Gonyeka, and he's a happy chappie, as you can see.
Check out the bells that will go on his club end...
We bet you ten quid you won't stick your head in his mouth, and that's swearing!
We've seen Onumo before, of course...
...but he's always worth another view, especially as he's part of the vulgus!
The last warrior of the unit is Ngozig, and judging by that smirk on his face he's just eaten a few babies or something.
Knowing Allan's speed, these guys will be ready for Wave 22!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Norse!
Steinn on foot and on Grundtroll
We have another update for Darklands: Savage Hordes IV this week; and of course, it's bloody awesome, even if we say so.
Ready? We are!
There's a few Norse miniatures to show you this week, although they all revolve around two, really...
Bob's work on Steinn the Bold - both on foot and on Grundtroll - is, we think you'll agree, nothing short of outstanding. But don't take our word for it... have a look yourself!
Here's the shieldwall version:
There is a two axe version now, too:
There is also a great axe version and a spear version, but he's not quite right yet so we'll wait to show him when he's sorted.
He should definitely be a Wave 23 shipment.
The Grundtroll version of Steinn is bloody ace. Just look at it! Look!!
The right arm is a little awkward so we're going to sort that for next time. Again, you'll be able to have him with two axes, great axe and spear on the Grundtroll. That's a 100mm base, by the way.
Samko wrote: Did you receive the wave 20 shipment (February 2018) ? It was supposed to ship all the remaining new kindred minis but I didn't receive it yet.
I received mine. I would email Mierce and see what the issue might be.
so if your in the Coventry area (or want to travel) and fancy a few games of Darklands..... comment on the facebook post
sorry you'll have to search for the Mierce Miniatures page yourself as facebook is being annoying and not letting me copy the link tonight
Mierce Miniatures added an event.
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Skirmish at Coffa Tree 24/06/2018
Hi All, Welcome to the third ‘Skirmish at Coffa Tree’. The event will take place on the Sunday the 24th of June and will be one day event consisting of three games of Mierce Miniatures Darklands.
**Important dates** As spaces are now limited, it's important that you register your intention to go, through this post by 10th May 2018. Payment will then be required by 15th June 2018. There are payment and essential event details in the link below.
**We cannot secure your place until payment has been made.
Once the places have gone, they're gone!
So be quick to come and hone your play skills and have the opportunity to ask Rob Lane about details of the rules, miniatures, new releases etc!!
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
Hi Guys, would you like to earn yourself lots of store credit (Moneyback)??
Then we have just the way to do it!!
If you refer a friend to Darklands and Mierce Miniatures then we will reward you, our valued customer, for getting your friends into the Darklands world!
WHAT REWARDS DO I GET BY REFERRING A FRIEND?
Each time you refer a new friend and he/she makes an order on our webstore, your Moneyback is increased by 20% of your friend's first order total. For example, if your friend's first order is £100, you gain £20. It's that simple! Note that this only applies to webstore items - i.e., items that are not Kickstarter items.
You can refer as many friends as you wish, and if you refer five friends or more you will gain an additional bonus of £50 on your Moneyback!
If you are registered and logged in, you can check how much Moneyback you have by visiting your My Moneyback page.
HOW DO I REFER A FRIEND?
To claim your Refer a Friend reward, you simply need to ensure your friend notifies us of your name and e-mail address, along with a note that you have referred them to Mierce Miniatures. You don't need to do anything else except to persuade your friends to get into Darklands and make an order!
Your friend must make an order under his own name and address (which must be different to your own) for his order to count as a referral order.
WHAT RESTRICTIONS TO REFERRING A FRIEND ARE THERE?
The most important restriction to Referring a Friend is that you can only refer each particular friend once; after that friend makes his first order, you can't be rewarded for any further order he makes.
Additionally, that friend must not be an existing Mierce Miniatures customer - i.e., he has never made an order on our webstore before.
As an aside to finished sculpt pics, can you tell us what’s made it through the print cue since last update, and what’s on deck?
...as for what's been printed...
Garric (all versions)
Tor I Italus, Ballista Tormentum
Hrafnar of Stafangr, Hrafn Unit
Scuttling Nucranca
Thuulac
Encrusted Thuulac
Tower Banbreca
Firekin, Szalamandra Unit
Note that not all of those are moulded yet. Printing will cease for a while to get them moulded (plus other things)
Good to see they're printing the larger models (other than Garric), as I really think that's what their in-house printer is best suited for. It has probably already paid for itself knocking that list of giants out!
Both of the above sculpts look great, Bob! (Yours and Allan's ). My only constructive criticism on the Savrar would be I think his weapon could use a little more love, but he's pretty badass
Still no movement on my orders, and no reply to any emails...
What do you guys reckon Is should do to get traction?
I have around $400 in outstanding orders and cashback.
If you've never had any response to emails i'd try an alternate email address (or contacting them on the new facebook page)
If you've had contact and been told that your KS stuff isn't done at all or is sculpted but is yet to make it to the shipping queue (the sooner you committed to the order after the KS the higher up in the queue you'll be) its just a question of waiting,
as to money back if you spend it on existing non-KS items from the main bit of the website (either paying shipping or passing the free shipping threshold) it should go out right away. I wouldn't spend on KS items if you're worried about it taking time as they'd be right at the back of the line for shipping
Edit: and I have plenty waiting to be sculpted, to be moulded & cast and to reach the shipping queue too
Richard, haven't received any e-mails from you but the server change has caused a few issues with e-mails (fixed now). Please send again and I'll sort you out.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: existing non-KS items from the main bit of the website (either paying shipping or passing the free shipping threshold) it should go out right away.
I placed a non-KS order on the 10th April and it hasn't shipped yet. Not wishing to be disingenuous, I haven't bothered to chase it up because I noticed that a couple of outstanding KS items moved to packing at the same time so I'm assuming it'll all get bundled together and come at the same time, but upshot of it all is that the non-KS item seems to have gone some way back in the queue rather than going out 'tight away',. While I can see why they've done it (if of course my assumption is correct), I'm not hugely happy about it. as my expectation would also be that an in stock item bought direct form the webstore would be shipped out promptly (two working days is listed on the description)
Tim's given those on facebook a sneek peak at a certain crab (and I don't know if we've seen a cast of that Reaver lass yet either (more angles on the link below)
Available now, but when will she be shipped? I seem to only get about 1 shipment every 8-10 months now even though I paid for the max shipping on each kickstarter and still have a ton of stuff waiting to be shipped. :(
I always just do one shipment per order so I'm not sure how the multiple shipment stuff works but it would never hurt to send them an email.
I'm waiting on the reivers in metal, hopefully they're still on track for next month. Also happy to see the scale seams to be a bit larger for her as some of my Mierce humans are comically small.
Don't forget, that's just the "plain" version, the "Encrusted" one has lots of barnacles and starfish all over the body!
That's the one I ordered...oooh, abut 2 years ago!
yxalitis wrote: Don't forget, that's just the "plain" version, the "Encrusted" one has lots of barnacles and starfish all over the body!
That's the one I ordered...oooh, abut 2 years ago!
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Wow Yx! That’s a whole 6 months before Bob even sculpted it! AMAZING!
Only one updated today. And it's for you lizard lovers (you know who you are)
More Lizardy Types
As revealed in the last update, we got Bob to resculpt Ágriosávra - as he'd made such an amazing job of Eikovra and the Sávrar - and here's Aggie on his big lizard monster thing, plus a new Myrkranio!
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Here we go...
There's two new miniatures to show today from Bob, both for the Khthones and both utterly superb. But then we would say that.
With Bob resculpting Ágriosávra on foot, it would have been rude not to resculpt Ágriosávra on his Sávrakh. Whilst we are, generally speaking, quite rude, we're not going to be rude in this case.
Here's the simply wonderful Ágriosávra on his Sávrakh!
You'll have the choice of "winged" head or "komodo" head for the Sávrakh (his name is Krekk for anyone who's interested), as both are included with the miniature.
He should be a Wave 24 shipment, we think.
The remaining Sávrar to be resculpted by Bob is Myrkranio... and what a wonderful resculpt it is!
Again, you'll get both heads...
...and again, he'll be a Wave 24 shipment!
Where can I buy them!?!?
You can pre-order all of the new lizzies in the Darklands: Savage Hordes category:
Note that any outstanding orders for Ágriosávra on foot in metal or Myrkranio on foot in metal will be automatically upgraded to the new version.
Next up for Bob? He's just about finished the Two Axe Warriors of Baalor and then he'll be working on the Cogwyfern and Cocneidr from Savage Hordes II...
Is it only Agriosavra who can ride the lizards, or is there a more generic profile available for the Khthon hosts?
I've got the older version with the frilled head already built. Might be cool to have multiple lizard riding cavalry...
...and yeah, those Savrar are looking nice. Can't wait to get my claws on them!
The big question for me though is which material to I want them in? I've got some coming in metal, but the resins might be more viable now with the thicker looking weapons.
Bossk_Hogg wrote: Hey does anyone own this guy? How does that ball not snap the chain more or less instantly?
I've got him. Although I've not had the chance to use him yet (it's been an extremely busy year) it is quite a fragile part and moves a bit intimidatingly when he is moved around or picked up.
Despite that fear though, it hasn't broken so far. Might be because that pliability gives it a degree of 'free play' for want of a better term, which allows it to take some impact (such as me clumsily dropping him) without the force being applied to a rigid area that would buckle under the strain.
Here's Graesach's Brood, a Cocneidr unit from the Powys realm. Watch out for these guys on the battlefield - they can, quite literally, turn you to stone with their breath. Nasty.
Graesach, Pencocneidr of Cwm Du
The leader of the unit is Graesach, prounounced "GRY[as in eye]-sakh".
His breath is fowl. Haha ha ha ha ha! Geddit? Geddit? Sigh... I should be on telly...
Hawas, Cocneidr of Cwm Du
The second Cocneidr is called Hawas.
We have often wondered why he crosses the road, but then we realised it's so he could get to the other side.
Gongoc, Cocnedir of Cwm Du
The last member of the unit is called Gongoc, and don't worry - we've run out of chicken jokes!
Bob has also made sure the heads look rather different to each other...
These guys, we are hoping, will be a Wave 23 shipment. Watch out for their cousins the Dyneidr and the Afanc in the future...! Squawk!
OGHU WATCHERS, SHIELDWALL OGHURITHNE UNIT
The Oghu Keepers, originally sculpted by Yannick Fusier, have had a nice little makeover into a Shieldwall unit - thanks to Tim Prow's ministrations. These guys will make excellent anvils in your Albainn host!
Anyone want to go halvies in a l Scuttling Nucránca lot?
I'll pay for all three, but I only want one, will sell the other two for 50% plus shipping, BARGAIN!!!
Just pm me here.
Hi everyone. This Danny Cruz, I've done a lot of the artwork/designs for Mierce and wanted to let everyone know that I will be at Origins this weekend at booth #1060 (D-Verse Publishing). I'll be selling my sketchbook and doing sketch commissions as well so, if you're at Origins, feel free to stop by and say hi.
yxalitis wrote:Anyone want to go halvies in a l Scuttling Nucránca lot?
I'll pay for all three, but I only want one, will sell the other two for 50% plus shipping, BARGAIN!!!
Just pm me here.
PM sent!
deecee9 wrote:Hi everyone. This Danny Cruz, I've done a lot of the artwork/designs for Mierce and wanted to let everyone know that I will be at Origins this weekend at booth #1060 (D-Verse Publishing). I'll be selling my sketchbook and doing sketch commissions as well so, if you're at Origins, feel free to stop by and say hi.
Wish I was at Origins - would have loved to have gotten a custom Danny Cruz sketch!
deecee9 wrote: Hi everyone. This Danny Cruz, I've done a lot of the artwork/designs for Mierce and wanted to let everyone know that I will be at Origins this weekend at booth #1060 (D-Verse Publishing). I'll be selling my sketchbook and doing sketch commissions as well so, if you're at Origins, feel free to stop by and say hi.
Sadly i'm not there, but have a great con, I've loved your work for Mierce & others
Agreed, that's one of the awesome things about Mierce - you get this convergence of amazing artists (even if it's all commission based except for Bob).
Wish I was at Origins, and we need a thread a new thread on D-Verse stuff!
This may well be the last time we do this as we are bringing metal casting in house very soon - so grab these guys while they're here!
Our surplus half price metal miniatures will be removed from the webstore on Monday, 18th of June 2018 at midnight (GMT) - just a few days away! - and they're only available while stocks last, so be quick to grab them before they're all gone! There's a few more surplus metals than last time too, including some units, so it's worth a look even if you've taken advantage before!
Get yourself a fantastic unit of Oghurithne Hunters or a unit of Elbharu (shown below) for the Albainn, a fantastic Byzantii Demidecanus, Judas; a haughty Fomoraic Warchief, Daarkan; a simply gorgeous Jute noble, Archer Mildryth; or a terrifying Jute wraith, Mordwæl. There's many more - and all of them are half price!
A few things I wanted, Mierce humans fit in so well aesthetically with the Conan RPG game I run that it's hard to pass up on things like this -- especially when you need like 30-40 enemies per enounter. Wish there were more spear Albanian grunts as mine are in resin, from before metal was a thing, and I just haven't trusted they wouldn't break.
not sure what's going on here if I put it in quotes most of the text vanishes [EDIT it looks like it was something being done by an emote, so here's the info]
KICKSTARTER NEWS
Good morning guys!! Look out for our merchandise KICKSTARTER that Rob has called 'Miercendise' . To be launched in the next week!!
From what I've gathered from the currently active KSer thread yes. Just general Darklands merch. I know kindred colored dice with dicebags have been mentioned on top of the generic print to order stuff.
Don't know how popular it will be but the regulars really want some and I doubt it will need a high funding goal.
Rob, so far, has resisted calls for more minis as he wants to catch up on production now that he's got a printer in house and getting set up for internal metals.
And I'm convinced that's what's holding up all the resin stuff I have on order, that is available for general release, and hasn't shipped and isn't even in 'packing' for me!!!
IIRC, there was stuff like Mugs, t-shirts, and that sort of thing. But there was also talk of kindred specific dice (different in both symbols on the dice and color of the dice), possibly dicebags, and some sort of holder for all the order tokens. I even recall some mention of a game mat (Formoraic themed IIRC, so a big ice sheet?). In any case, should be a bunch of different stuff. I hope they set the fund pretty low, as not everyone is going to go all in on this sort of thing.
Getting the metals in house is HUGE! As some have pointed out, I think the out of house metals slows a lot of things down, not that the company making them is slow, but I think Mierce waits to place a BIG order to maximize cost, and they have to build up to that. Now they can spin up whatever they need, when they need it. And any excess stuff, or miscasts can just be melted down again and reused.
So, back to the serious business of, you know, actual miniature production...what is the ETA for Encrusted Thuulac now?
Also, when are we even going to see the sculpts for:
Schyros
Scethan
Selkilias
Uuroch
These are all minis from a LOOOOONG time ago, over TWO YEARS AGO!, that have not even been sculpted, let alone printed or molded...!
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yxalitis wrote: Anyone want to go halvies in a l Scuttling Nucránca lot?
I'll pay for all three, but I only want one, will sell the other two for 50% plus shipping, BARGAIN!!!
Just pm me here.
OK, I had few bites, but nothing panned out...
So to sweeten the deal...a new offer.
I am in Australia, so the biggest drawback is the shipping cost....
To get the three Nancrunca would cost me £75 + £10 shipping.
They each cost £25, that's say: $34 USD,
Plus shipping to the states would cost around $12 USD (For one or two)
To buy three yourself from Mierce would cost you $115 - $120 USD
If you go in for this deal with me:
One would cost you $46 USD
Two would cost $80 USD
I could do two at a discount of just $65 USD
OMG BARGAIN!
So I buy 3, once delivered I ship to you two of the three for $65 USD (Just to be clear)
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skullking wrote: IIRC, there was stuff like Mugs, t-shirts, and that sort of thing. But there was also talk of kindred specific dice (different in both symbols on the dice and color of the dice), possibly dicebags, and some sort of holder for all the order tokens. I even recall some mention of a game mat (Formoraic themed IIRC, so a big ice sheet?). In any case, should be a bunch of different stuff. I hope they set the fund pretty low, as not everyone is going to go all in on this sort of thing.
Getting the metals in house is HUGE! As some have pointed out, I think the out of house metals slows a lot of things down, not that the company making them is slow, but I think Mierce waits to place a BIG order to maximize cost, and they have to build up to that. Now they can spin up whatever they need, when they need it. And any excess stuff, or miscasts can just be melted down again and reused.
Adding more work to these same people in and of itself won't change anything
They still only have the same number of staff, so hopefully these savings can get another person to assist, otherwise we have the same exact bottleneck, not enough people to get minis out the door...
yxalitis wrote: Anyone want to go halvies in a l Scuttling Nucránca lot?
I'll pay for all three, but I only want one, will sell the other two for 50% plus shipping, BARGAIN!!!
Just pm me here.
OK, I had few bites, but nothing panned out...
So to sweeten the deal...a new offer.
I am in Australia, so the biggest drawback is the shipping cost....
To get the three Nancrunca would cost me £75 + £10 shipping.
They each cost £25, that's say: $34 USD,
Plus shipping to the states would cost around $12 USD (For one or two)
To buy three yourself from Mierce would cost you $115 - $120 USD
If you go in for this deal with me:
One would cost you $46 USD
Two would cost $80 USD
I could do two at a discount of just $65 USD
OMG BARGAIN!
So I buy 3, once delivered I ship to you two of the three for $65 USD (Just to be clear)
I'll definitely do this deal with you - PM me with your PayPal info and I'll send over the funds ASAP - thanks!
Er, as a very loyal (to date) Mierce customer and supporter, I'm more than a little annoyed that the only way to get this Morag sculpt appears to be by spending £100?
That seems rather poor form.
Because I can't see wanting all of this:
T-Shirt (choice of S,M,L,XL,XL,XXL) - £20
Beanie Hat - £10
Pint Glass (568ml) - £10
Pint Tankard Glass (568ml) - £15
Jumbo Mug (465ml) - £10
Bottle Opener Keyring - £2
Black Pen - £2
Black Dry-Wipe Marker Pen - £2
Dice Pouch - £5
Stuff Pouch (ideal for both dice and templates, etc.) - £7.50
Tokens Tin (great for storing your order tokens, exult and dismay tokens in) - £7.50
3m Tape Measure - £5
A0 size Darklands Poster - £7.50
A0 size The Lands of Darkness Poster - £7.50
A0 size Concept Art Poster (the concept is your choice) - £7.50
...just to get that mini.
It feels like Mierce is vastly overestimating the appeal of the Mierce Wolf Logo?
Though I'd have somewhat happily paid £20 to get the massive miniature backlog queue moving faster.
I'm liking the Beanie, and some of the glassware. I have no use for the posters, or a coffee mug though. Remember, you can put money in, and use it buy anything mierce offers, like Minis or books. You're not limited to just having to use it on Merch.
Looks like it's using moneyback under the manage your pledge section at the bottom. But $130 just to get one human figure isn't a very good as in their normal campaigns that usually gets you something much more expensive as a bonus.
Plus, since this is Mierce, they'll probably have an alt version of her in another campaign.
purchasing this reward is the only way you'll ever get your hands on this Morag miniature
Emphasis mine.
Also I was wrong about the low funding, they went with their standard 5000 pounds.
Monkeysloth wrote: Looks like it's using moneyback under the manage your pledge section at the bottom. But $130 just to get one human figure isn't a very good as in their normal campaigns that usually gets you something much more expensive as a bonus.
Plus, since this is Mierce, they'll probably have an alt version of her in another campaign.
purchasing this reward is the only way you'll ever get your hands on this Morag miniature
Yeah, I think you're correct. It doesn't even look like the Morag in the concept art, as she is running, and wearing a helmet.
I don't think this is the last we'll see of the Woman from the Isle of Mann...
Do any of you guys have the Nucranca in "packing" status?
Or, indeed, any of you orders?
Mine have been in a solid "Processing" state forever.
I was told June for Branbeca, and Encrusted Thuulac is apparently still in the pipeline...I just want to see how other people are faring.
Man, between the pics of Thuulac and Nucrana in this thread, it's really hard not to imagine starting some sort of "Deep Ones" army . Some really solid production from Mierce lately catching up with the prints!
RiTides wrote: Man, between the pics of Thuulac and Nucrana in this thread, it's really hard not to imagine starting some sort of "Deep Ones" army . Some really solid production from Mierce lately catching up with the prints!
I love your enthusiasm, but after 2 + years, i'm tired of just waiting, and waiting and waiting for Mierce to actually, you know SHIP THEM!
Let's not even talk about the monsters from Mighty Monsters that have not...even..been sculpted yet!
Ah, well I say that as someone who would consider buying them now that they're finally being cast . I stopped pledging for things that were TBD a long time ago, and started using my credit towards things that were available...
I got £100 left in my monsters pack deal, and £45 in cashback...
I grabbed the nuncrancas as I sold off 2 of them, effectively cashing in some of my moneyback, whilst getting one for myself.
My weakness is giant armored reptiles after all. I'll definitely be grabbing that Araglach model. A Prifdyngwyfern is suprising. I wonder if it would be able to actually lead a warhost? I'd assumed they weren't very bright and would probably have a low authority value.
Also impressed with the elephant centaur fiend as well. I wonder how big that would be?
These aren't going to end up in the current campaign are they?
With £5,000 approaching we thought we'd give you all even more incentive to get hold of the Miercendise + Morag award... by giving you a very limited edition version of Sáthach too!
Sáthach is a limited edition resculpt of the original Sáthach miniature by Bob Plociennik, and she'll never be available outside of the Miercendise + Morag reward in this form. There'll only ever be 100 of her!
She is a sell-sword of the Érainn and, in Darklands, can train up your warriors to give them a greater Acuity than they would normally have, so she's a fantastic addition to any host.
Right. I'm not a regular Mierce Customer. I backed the first two campaigns heavily. I bought the rules. I've dabbled in a few more. I pick up the miniatures occasionally and keep an eye on what's being developed. It's stunning stuff. I look out for it at bring and buys and try and get a few discounts when I can. I think there's potential for a rich game universe from the scant background that has been revealed and through the uh... inaccessible at times although historically accurate gaming. So I get I'm not the target audience for most kickstarters. I can only somewhat overlook the flaws for the stunning miniatures and I'm not an auto-supporter like many others in this thread. I also understand there's been production problems and delays and all the usual stuff that goes with running a miniatures company and I sympathise.
However this... this just puts me off. It puts the people I constantly try and advertise the miniatures to off. "Hey guys I know the game is pretty inaccessible but maybe we could use some cool Snakemen for Ghost Archipelago? Frostgrave? That new AoS army could do with a sexy monster, jump on when theres another kickstarter and get some discounts. Don't go for anything too new, there's a backlog. Oh it's for merchandise and tokens to play the inaccessible game, but if you jump in at £100 we get a sweet mercenary figure. Wait where are you all going? Wait... why am I advocating for this?"
Then the curtains close on my gakky one man Edinburgh Festival show. Is there a point to my whining? Not really, I think I just need to vent and feel like I'm heard like all humans who end up invested in companies. I understand the reasoning behind this. I try to anyway. However at this point... well I don't see any point in throwing money in any further. And that's the beauty of the kickstarter model. Don't like it don't back it. But I so really want to like it.
Models as always are stunning. Let's see if my resolve crumbles when SAGA comes out with monster rules.
With £5,000 approaching we thought we'd give you all even more incentive to get hold of the Miercendise + Morag award... by giving you a very limited edition version of Sáthach too!
Sáthach is a limited edition resculpt of the original Sáthach miniature by Bob Plociennik, and she'll never be available outside of the Miercendise + Morag reward in this form. There'll only ever be 100 of her!
She is a sell-sword of the Érainn and, in Darklands, can train up your warriors to give them a greater Acuity than they would normally have, so she's a fantastic addition to any host.
[rant] I could also ask, as I have before, why Bob is spending his time creating new sculpts when so much work is outstanding from KS's that completed, and took my money over 2 years ago?
Why is THIS mini, and some unnecessary resculpts more important than STARTING on the as yet unsculpted work from Mighty Monsters etc etc... The priority shown by Mierce seems to be put something shiny out for the rabid fans to plonk down more cash for, and let the ridiculously delayed miniatures that we PAID FOR over two years ago wait longer?
Bob, why is your precious time being spent NOT getting that backlog cleared?
I'm sorry, I don't understand..
Look at this new kickstarter...£4000 pledged from just 50 backers...that's an average of £120 each. For T-shirts and mugs? Really? Every time I see something like this I have to wonder when will the money I committed be honoured?
I am NEVER backing another Mierce kickstarter unless they can prove to me they are COMMITTED to doing what they should, get that ancient backlog cleared ABOVE ALL ELSE.
With £5,000 approaching we thought we'd give you all even more incentive to get hold of the Miercendise + Morag award... by giving you a very limited edition version of Sáthach too!
Sáthach is a limited edition resculpt of the original Sáthach miniature by Bob Plociennik, and she'll never be available outside of the Miercendise + Morag reward in this form. There'll only ever be 100 of her!
She is a sell-sword of the Érainn and, in Darklands, can train up your warriors to give them a greater Acuity than they would normally have, so she's a fantastic addition to any host.
[rant]
I could also ask, as I have before, why Bob is spending his time creating new sculpts when so much work is outstanding from KS's that completed, and took my money over 2 years ago?
Why is THIS mini, and some unnecessary resculpts more important than STARTING on the as yet unsculpted work from Mighty Monsters etc etc...
The priority shown by Mierce seems to be put something shiny out for the rabid fans to plonk down more cash for, and let the ridiculously delayed miniatures that we PAID FOR over two years ago wait longer?
Bob, why is your precious time being spent NOT getting that backlog cleared?
I'm sorry, I don't understand..
Look at this new kickstarter...£4000 pledged from just 50 backers...that's an average of £120 each.
For T-shirts and mugs? Really?
Every time I see something like this I have to wonder when will the money I committed be honoured?
I am NEVER backing another Mierce kickstarter unless they can prove to me they are COMMITTED to doing what they should, get that ancient backlog cleared ABOVE ALL ELSE.
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I agree on the reculpts but backlog of things that even need to be printed and cast (due to the resculpts) that I doubt Bob doing this will really delay that other stuff any further. But I suspect the resculpts are in part to raise monkey outside of KS and keep what little traditional cash flow Mierce has since they aren't running the normal KSer every 3-4 months right now. And if having Bob do that means keeping the lights on then I'm not super upset as I'd rather this happen then Mierce close up shop. So it's kind of the lesser of 2 evils even though all that new stuff really is annoying me.
I could also ask, as I have before, why Bob is spending his time creating new sculpts when so much work is outstanding from KS's that completed, and took my money over 2 years ago?
Just to be clear, both of them were sculpted many months ago for Darkholds and I didn't touch them since.
Bob says... "top shell will change a bit (a bit more like the bottom plates, but with the details it has now), legs will be a different and I'll add details across the board and pose him..."
I could also ask, as I have before, why Bob is spending his time creating new sculpts when so much work is outstanding from KS's that completed, and took my money over 2 years ago?
Just to be clear, both of them were sculpted many months ago for Darkholds and I didn't touch them since.
Bob, why is your precious time being spent NOT getting that backlog cleared?
It actually is
Seeing Scaethean here is great...and I know it's not your fault at all...your work is epic.
But you can imagine the frustration of people like myself who paid £500 or more over two years ago..and are still waiting!
Is the dragon turtle next, or the scorpion?
highlord tamburlaine wrote: GET BACK TO WORK THEN! Honestly though Bob, really nice work you've been doing. Can't wait for all those lizards and reptiles!
Seeing Scaethean here is great...and I know it's not your fault at all...your work is epic.
But you can imagine the frustration of people like myself who paid £500 or more over two years ago..and are still waiting!
Is the dragon turtle next, or the scorpion?
Thanks!
Yeah, good thing Rob followed up with some renders to accidently prove my words :p
I understand, but all I can do is to ask for a tiny bit more patience. Cannot confirm or deny though...
That being said, we work hard on dealing with that backlog first and foremost
I guess it was too much to not have a KSer with a miniature backlog. But based off what I see from various painting groups the bog bests must sell quite well for Mierce so I could see why he'd want to book Allan up for another group of them.
Absolutely correct. I learned that early on in life at Chucky Cheese's.
Don't you mean Showbiz Pizza? And in Yx's defense, the Mandolin would be the Euro equivalent of a banjo.
EDIT - Why are you mods spoilering this picture, when the GIGANTIC picture just a few above it is not? And don't tell me it's content... it's not a disturbing, or a big picture, otherwise I'd have spoilered it to begin with.
Couldn't tell you before but Rob just leaked it actually :p
Should be a nice Mierceday tomorrow - Cogwyfern, Scethæn and possibly Grima...
Bob will be doing Schyrós, Wildeswin and Selkilias + Grima on Manasceancan after that...
So yes to both and a few more
Also, there's an update I think you guys missed with some preorders and stuff, I don't have time to make fancy post now, but here it is:
Whilst that's an excellent name for a band in our opinion, we're not talking about some musical supergroup - we're talking about allowing you to purchase them!
That's right, thanks to the urgings of many backers, we've decided to allow you guys to purchase the awesome Bædubera (even though we didn't unlock him) and find a way to reserve Allan Carrasco for the Bog Beasts. More details on that below, but first...
Ergred, Bædubera
Let's start with Ergred. He now counts as unlocked and you should be able to see him in the Templar's Forge: Miercendise category if you backed the project. If you didn't, send a mail and we'll give you access.
Ergred, Bædubera
Bæduberas, defiler-bears, are the ultimate weapons of vengeance for the Anglecynn for their might is equal to their intelligence and cunning. The greatest of the man-bears, even a single Bædubera strikes terror into the enemies of the Beornice. Armed with a brutal beræx and a bear-trap to throw and entrap the enemy, the Bædubera will be around 70mm tall to the eye and will stand on an 80mm base.
Ergred was drawn by Kurt Jacobi and he'll be sculpted by Bob Płociennik.
Bædubera Warrior Profile
Now, the Bædubera being unlocked means he needs a profile - and because we're nice fellows we've updated the Anglecynn muster to give him one. Watch out for that bear-trap!
Anglecynn Kindred Muster v1.29
Note that all of the other musters will be updated shortly as it's nearly the end of June.
Beasts of Cill Chonn Bog, Bog Beast Unit
Now for the Bog Beasts. With Allan Carrasco somebody you should really reserve for the year ahead as he's so busy, we thought it would be great to get the Bog Beasts on this project so we can do so, as we won't be holding another Darklands project for a long while. So we did - but we didn't get far enough, unfortunately.
So we came up with a plan.
We've put 50 Beasts of Cill Chonn Bog, Bog Beast Units on our webstore for you to purchase, and once all 50 are sold, that's them unlocked, basically - and then we'll get Allan to sculpt them next year!
New Limited Edition Sucking Mórannach
To tempt you into purchasing them now rather than waiting for someone else to purchase them, we've also decided to bring you a strictly limited edition version of Mórannach opening his chest to consume an enemy of Eriu. If you've purchased one of the limited edition units of the Bog Beasts, you'll get him - and nowhere else! There'll be no way to purchase him after those first 50 units have gone. So get him while he's there and we'll get the Bog Beast unit unlocked quicker!
Beasts of Cill Chonn Bog, Bog Beast Unit
Unfortunately the artwork for Sucking Mórannach is not yet done but it will be on Friday, thanks to Kurt Jacobi's ministrations; it can't be helped as he is travelling, but on Friday we'll bring you some lovely art and a mailshot to boot, which should get things moving of course.
Until then, feel free to purchase the unit now and help to unlock them because we know that artwork is going to be awesome!
Don't Use Moneyback on the Bog Beasts
If you've added to your pledge on this project to get the Bog Beasts, feel free to use your Moneyback on the unit - but otherwise we would ask all of you not to use Moneyback
Bog Beast Unit Options
Once you've purhcased the limited edition Bog Beast unit you'll be able to get a hold of the other unit options - either the individual warriors or the unit of two. Just contact us and we'll give you access to get them.
If you've already got Mórannach and you don't want the limited edition version, you'll have to wait until the unit is sold out before you can purchase the unit options. Just bear in mind you really, really need two units of these guys...
It's so bloody hot! But then, it is summer, so we shouldn't complain... anyway, we have another superb update for Darklands: Savage Hordes II thanks to Bob Płociennik, who is cracking on apace.
Let's make a start!
We've some lovely miniatures to show you this week,
The Stonewings of Y Garn are Cogwyferniau, mini-wyverns - well, to us, anyway! Tyffagahaw has kind of spoiled us in terms of size - and rumours of riders for them cannot be confirmed at this stage.
The leader of the unit is called Haggraes...
...although he isn't related to Haggrid and he doesn't have a hut.
A warrior of the unit is Awassaw...
...and he does have a hut.
The last Cogwyfern is Goccag!
These guys should be a Wave 24 shipment as we've tons of printing to do...
Ahh, Grīma. Such a lovely chap, once. Now he's just full of hatred and bile... note he's pronounced "GRY-mə" and Līcwāca is pronounced "LYCH-war-kə". Both y's are pronounced as in eye, not in bit.
Manasceancan-rider Grīma is coming soon!
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Beetle of the Crags
We have good news, Darklands: Mighty Monsters fans - our very own Bob Płociennik will be further turning his attention to this project in July and so we'll be bringing you some bloody awesome monsters as well as today's awesomeness!
Just the one miniature to show you today, for the Jutes, but what a miniature it is... coming to a tabletop near you soon to both dominate and terrify, here's the utterly brilliant
Sculpted of course by Bob Płociennik from the artwork by Danny Cruz, Scethæn is a mighty crag beetle of the Jutes. Standing on a 120mm base, this thing will be massive and awesome!
We are hoping he'll be a Wave 24 (October) shipment!
I was looking for more pics of the sculpt and found this scale shot. Funny how tiny our crab lad looks
- Salvage
To be fair, those are 3 MASSIVE models next to him. They're all on 120mm bases, and he's only an 80mm. Still, it looks great to see a size match like that.
Why do I feel that Giant Beetle fighting the Giant Turtle will be something that happens all too much in the Darklands?
EDIT: Man, 80mm is a weird size. Current plan is to run the scuttlers three as triple soul grinders ... on 160mm bases apparently o_O I actually think it'll work out with those bloody huge pokers, but we'll just have to see. Whenever these things ship (having seen a cast of one makes me hopeful it's pretty soon?)
I just got a shipping notification for a small amount of Metal's I've been waiting on. Is the metal casting in house yet or is that still a bit off?
Not even sure what KSer these are from to be honest but it is my first shipmine relating to their backlock in at least 8 months. So hopefully things are getting back on pace.
Edit: Savage hordes 2. SOme of the things being shipped I forgot I had ordered so I actually picked up in the first surplus sale earlier this year.
), I just always assumed the draw of the Jute kindred, was that they were undead among so many 'living' kindreds. 
