For those of you who weren't reading the horribly off topic thread about fisticuffs over Warhammer, I'll get you up to speed.
One of the respondents had, in passing, mentioned that one of the fellows at their FLGS painted their Khorne army in his own blood. Many of the repsondents continued to remark on how disgusting such an act would be. That is until I mentioned that I myself have done it as had quite a few of the B&C fellows who follow Khorne. At which point they gave further voice to their disgust and "WHY?" we would choose to do this. I have personally painted models with my own blood. My berserkers, of which I have few left, are painted with my blood mixed with red Gore and given a liberal wash of Badab black. I would post a picture but I cannot at this time locate my camera. So when I am aware of its whereabouts I will post a pic of it. In the meantime feel free to discuss this most delightful topic!
I have gotten blood on a mini before, but not on purpose.
I agree that doing it is a sign of possible mental illness. Making yourself BLEED for some plastic or pewter model is similar to the act of cutting yourself due to an extreme emotional state. Not good.
Mattlov wrote:I have gotten blood on a mini before, but not on purpose.
I agree that doing it is a sign of possible mental illness. Making yourself BLEED for some plastic or pewter model is similar to the act of cutting yourself due to an extreme emotional state. Not good.
My wife is a therapist and she was pretty aghast at this, when I mentioned it to her over MSN (iraq, chatting, etc).
She basically said the same thing above. Cause seriously? There is obsessing over toy soldiers, and then there is OBSESSING over toy soldiers, get my meaning?
edit: Hey I am back in the States! If only! >.<But I am on a new internet connection through a US based company, so I guess I lost my iraqi flag, which was kinda cool to have. Anyway, back to regularly scheduled programing.>
I have one question how did your models do on the table were they unstoppable or nothing. Because if blood=win maybe someone else blood will do better....JK
Aside from the discussion about your possible craziness, isn't painting minis in your own blood quite unhygenic? Wouldn't the minis go all yukky after a while...?
Hey I've got nothing against Emo kids, they make for the best games
I've got a level 12 whiner with specializations in cutting and complaining about my parents. I hope to specialize in make-up application when I reach level 13 (and level 13 is sooo cool because it's unlucky like my life). My characters motto is "The graveyard is dark and empty like my soul"
Teh_K42 wrote:Wait until GW increases the paints on paints again, then we may see more support for the bloodletting.
As long as dried blood doesn't give anyone HIV (I don't know, is there a doctor in the house?) I think it's kind of funny.
Guy 1: Nice paint job, how did you get that effect?
Guy 2:Used my own blood.
Guy 1: ...
The HIV is actually pretty fragile outside the human body. There would be no way it could survive in a dried blood drop. It requires a pretty fresh transfer of bodily fluids to acquire. If the model was still wet maybe… otherwise no.
Anyone have a picture or a description of what a blood paint job looks like? Grossness aside I think all a blood paint job would accomplish is gumming up a model.
Gwar! wrote:
And guys, be grateful its only blood. Imagine if he Played Slaanesh...
ARGH! The pictures in my head!
Slaneesh... better than if he played Nurgle.. that is SERIOUS EW..
However, responding to the blood thing.. I guess it would depend on ratio.. is the "paint" 100% blood.. a bit yuck that.
1%.. sounds like you want to "live on" with the miniatures.. heck.. (age showing).. KISS added vials of their own blood to red comic book ink for a comic series in the late 70's...
Personally, as long as that clotting effect on the mini is JUST an effect and there is less than 10% real stuff in there.. I am good.
Gwar! wrote:Personally, I would use it to create a dried blood effect.
I used it on a chaos knight for just that effect not too long ago. Baal red and devlan mud weren't cutting it () so I accidentally-on-purpose slipped my craft knife onto my thumb knuckle. My blood looks good on that axe though.
Makes me think though, I lick/suck my brushtips to get regain a fine point a lot of the time, most of my minis probably have a good amount of spit in there too...
AgeOfEgos wrote:With the abundance of colors available, there is no reason (save mental illness) to use blood on your miniatures. It's farking disgusting.
Gwar! wrote:I still say its a great way to stop people touching your minis
I should also mention that blood is not something to be taken lightly in terms of disease and illness.
Blood borne diseases are numerous and varied, some can kill, others cane make your life miserable, and many do stay active for long after blood is spilled. Some diseases stay viable for 24 hours, I think one common one, maybe a hepatitis stays viable for up to a week. AIDS is an hour last I checked, maybe longer.
This is why stuff like cleaning crime scenes or places where there have been accidents is a serious and professional job that requires all sorts of nasty chemicals to remove all residue.
Anyone who just pricks themselves for blood at a moment's notice is strange enough, but it's likely they also aren't good at keeping clean. That tool they use to draw blood might also be dirty, which can cause nasty infections for that person.
Lastly, blood does not make a good paint, despite what people may say. The modern synthetics or natural mediums and pigments work better and are more permanent.
There's a distinct difference here in somebody who puts a drop of blood into a paint pot to make the army "his", and somebody who's slathering a Khorne Berserker in a steaming, coagulated mess of blood and paint, and finishing it by rubbing it on the open vein in his wrist.
I have no issue whatsoever with the former - there are hundreds (if not thousands) of artists throughout history who have put a daub of their blood on a canvas or fresco as a symbolic signature - it's a guarantee that the finished work unique to you. If you're concerned about disease...get over yourself. First, practically everything you CAN get (which isn't much) from dried blood is gone in under a week. The odds of you playing the guy inside that week are damned low. Secondly, sealant or varnish makes the whole issue moot - you aren't touching the paint/blood anyway. Finally, the odds of you getting something from an army painted like this are going to be orders of magnitude lower than getting herpes from a public toilet or something (which can and has happened). Unless YOU'RE ritualistically jabbing yourself with paint/blood covered WFB 2e goblin spearmen on a regular basis, you're just not gonna get sick from somebody's paint.
Now, the second case is grounds for mental treatment time. No doubt about that. But, I HIGHLY doubt that's what we're really talking about here.
It's nothing I've done, but I would jump to any conclussions that someone has some mental disorder for doing it. I mean, it Would get you the most realistic color for dried blood ever. Would a coat of varnish seal in any extras and protect it's duration on the fig as well?
That's a disgusting concept and anyone who does that needs to seek medical help. Despite it being a sign of mental illness and obsession, it is also incredibly unhygienic. You risk infection, poisoning from plastic/resin residues, and even worse the spread of illness and disease which can seriously affect others.
Anyone in our play group who did that would be banned and not invited to any more events. Period.
Well, I can understand the reason why poeple might do that, but its extremely unclean, and as others have pointed out there is a much high risk of bacteria and virus's being on those miniatures, and before you say that its ok cus your the only one that will be touching them, just think of everything else you touch after handling the models, doors, objects, food, need i go on?.
Myself I'd most likely not play you knowing whats on them for hygene reasons more than anything.
I see nothing wrong with doing that, as long as it's properly sealed.
Is it seriously a social taboo to use blood for art? It's just blood. At least it's not like that one artist who revealed himself on his paintings once he was done, and even still, I don't see a problem with that. His art was amazing.
Serious mental problem? No. Covering minis in blood does not necessarily make you obsessive. You might be a bit of a masochist, but hey. Some people are. Get over it. Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't make it wrong to, and it's already been thoroughly covered that anyone who's worried about months-old dried blood is a bit paranoid. I actually kind of find it amusing how bothered people are by it.
As for covering a mini in blood? I have, but it was an accident. I slammed my fist down on my friend's Necron Lord after a terrible die roll, and had to yank it out and go get stitches. He left the blood on it. I don't have a problem with that, however...
He now has a nasty habit for saying 'Blood for the C'tan'.
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:
Also wouldn't the mini go brownish as the blood dries and gets older?
Well as I said, I've only done it to ONE model ever, but with a glaze of Baal Red and a varnish it's fine. It does look good, and none has flaked off so I'm assuming it's going to stay that way long term.
I also think that the people who are the most upset by this concept are probably "gamers" as opposed to "modellers". I'm an artist. I've been drawing and painting literally since the day I could hold a pen. Went to art school, and am currently an animation student at another learnign establishment. ARTISTS use things like their blood (or sweat, tears, saliva or worse...) in their paintings on a fairly regular basis.
Now, as an artist, I can safely tell you that from our perspective, any painting (canvas, wall, toy soldier) is a form of self expression. If you want to spend a lot of time effort and money on making a REALLY nice looking army, you get an "artistic" investment in it too. (emotional investment was the wrong term)
Despite being toy soldiers, the project as a whole means a lot to you, and you will have a massive, massive sense of achivement when you finish it. Being that wrapped up in a good project is normal for any artist, toy soldiers or no.
We (often) tend towards eccentricity and obsessiveness anyway, and adding a personal touch through a drop or two of blood is a satisfying way to make the project really feel complete - it is your creation, your lifeblood has touched it. All very symbolic but creepy to outsiders. The physical discomfort of a sharp blade making a shallow cut into your skin is negligable anyway, and thrill of uniting with an artwork that you care about removes any fleeting pain.
Slap some disinfectant on it, bandage it up and you're good to go.
By the by, I've was tested for blood-borne diseases 4 1/2 months ago , I'm clean.
As people have said, no-one's slitting their wrists and bleeding out over a khorne army; pretty much everyone who's admitted doing it have said it's either been for a small part of a single model, or a drop or two mixed into their acrylic paints. I think all these germaphobes and people crying "ohnoes! an artist added their blood to their work! they're totally insane and reprehensible, and I would never play a game of soldiers against them ever because they're vile persons!" need to chill out. It's not JUST a game, it's art too. Let artists be arty without belittling them. YOU don't have to play against the army, so don't call people disgusting or insane over the internet.
I play Nurgle, and once I thought about painting my models with egg whites and then letting them sit out in the sun. I didn't do it though, who would play against an army that smelled so bad that they couldn't stand to be in the room? Would I win by forfeit?
Come on, I'm a painter more than a gamer, but painting your army men in your blood is just weird. There's no legitimate reason for it, and i wager anyone who does it has never kissed a girl.
All you people painting with blood, tell me where you live so I won't play you accidentally.
Just because the blood is old doesn't mean it isn't unhygienic. A bunch of dead red blood cells is going to be a good growth medium for bacteria.
Greyfox, ktulhut; if artists want to do crazy gak like that, fine. (I still think there's a mental problem if you have to put your blood in something. All the hours you spent on painting something, that's not personal enough?) It's going to hang on a wall. But models are going to be in public, handled by you, possibly other people. And then you'll touch the things around you, and spread the bacteria.
As for the artist aspect... yeah... I consider myself an artist too. But I dont need to paint something with my own blood to call it my own as I know what is mine and what isnt. Really, come on now.
Random guy: That model isn't yours at all!
Blood painter: Yes it is, do a DNA test and you'll see!
For those that were painting their Khorne Berzerkers with their own blood I need to tell you something very important: KHORNE IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER IN A FICTIONAL GAME IN A FICTIONAL SETTING AND DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXSIT!
I prefer my opponents to be of sound mind and thus will not play this game against anyone living in a delusional world where the "Blood God" will make your little plastic men do better (which really has nothing to do with the models... why not cover the dice in blood? Freaks!).
Yes well I am more of a modeller as well,its not that it repulses me as from an art perspective lots of artists use thier blood in thier work,I am just saying that well its not for me.
anticitizen013 wrote:After reading this thread... I feel bad for playing Chaos. I don't want to be associated with people that paint their models with blood.
Be advised: KHORNE DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST!
right. and yet we have people who actually say his chant in real life... in a song...thats all over the interwebz
Vengis wrote: Just because the blood is old doesn't mean it isn't unhygienic. A bunch of dead red blood cells is going to be a good growth medium for bacteria.
Varnish, varnish, varnish.
Greyfox, ktulhut; if artists want to do crazy gak like that, fine. (I still think there's a mental problem if you have to put your blood in something. All the hours you spent on painting something, that's not personal enough?) It's going to hang on a wall. But models are going to be in public, handled by you, possibly other people. And then you'll touch the things around you, and spread the bacteria.
Once again, I can appreciate the sentiment for whole armies with blood in the paint, but at least in regards to my use of it, how often will anyone (at least anyone who doesn't deserve something bad happening to 'em) pick up someone elses chaos knight champion by the weapon? How often will I pick it up by the weapon? The answer is never. It's got a thick varnish, the blood won't flake off even when I tried to make it, anyway.
Greebynog wrote:i wager anyone who does it has never kissed a girl.
I wager half of Dakka has never kissed a girl! Seriously though, it's not about being so deluded and nerdy you try to appease Khorne, it's just morbid artistry. Chicks love morbid artists.
This is why all Warhammer players, when asked by members of the opposite sex what they do in their free time, should say "Im a painter." and not "I play a game called Warhammer..."
If by some miracle the Warhammer player does move closer to being in a relationship they would just need to justify their statement with "Yes, I paint the models, and there happens to be a game based around them, there is an interesting backstory with lots of history... etc."
Vengis wrote:Just because the blood is old doesn't mean it isn't unhygienic. A bunch of dead red blood cells is going to be a good growth medium for bacteria.
No. No it isn't. Go spill some blood somewhere. See if it leaves a brown stain there, or if a colony of bacteria grows.
The amount you would be talking about here would be miniscule in comparison to the paint anyway.
I wonder how many put blood in to make it Khornate, and how many do it to personalise the model. If it was not a Khornate model, I think people would have far less issues with it.
Blood to make it personal = intense and slightly creepy.
Blood to make it Khornate = really sodding weird and freaky, and I don't want to play with you.
Demogerg wrote: This is why all Warhammer players, when asked by members of the opposite sex what they do in their free time, should say "Im a painter." and not "I play a game called Warhammer..."
If by some miracle the Warhammer player does move closer to being in a relationship they would just need to justify their statement with "Yes, I paint the models, and there happens to be a game based around them, there is an interesting backstory with lots of history... etc."
sorry for the thread hijack.
This is known to work well.
Fifty wrote: intense and slightly creepy.
I've been called both before.
Blood to make it Khornate = really sodding weird and freaky, and I don't want to play with you.
I'd like to add, the chaos knight I've been talking about is Undivided. He's silver and black, apart from his gruesome axe, and the arbitrary skulls (hurr).
I gotta admit, I find this idea a little unsettling. I'm all for realism but there are certain things which simply step across my comfort zone, and blood on a model simply to make a model look good is not something I'd want to deal with. I find paints work well enough and don't involve me bleeding in any way, shape or form.
Oh sh*t really? You really should have told me that before I put those kids in the pit and... oh dear...
Come on, I'm a painter more than a gamer, but painting your army men in your blood is just weird. There's no legitimate reason for it, and i wager anyone who does it has never kissed a girl.
Had a serious GF for two years mate, was eventually dumped for not being Christian enough. (Might have been due to the BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! outbursts but I digress.
I put blood on quite a few of my models, I still can't find my camera as it appears my sister has taken it for the week. (She is going to San Jose) Should get some pics after she gets back. I generally put blood on my models to represent blood splatters, I did paint my Khorne Beserkers with blood mixed into the Red Gore, about half and half, as a way to make it more Khorny. I seal all of my finished models with Matte Varnish anyways to makes them shiny, so I don't see the problem with it.
As for a more gross use of blood in art, in Macleans magazine I read of a lady who used her own menstrual blood as paint, which is on a much different level methinks.
And guys, be grateful its only blood. Imagine if he Played Slaanesh...
You know, thats not a half bad idea...
PS: Just kidding on that last one, and for reference the kids were kids as in Goat offspring.
For those opposed/disgusted by the idea: Get a hunting license, get a rifle/bow(and arrows) and hunt some deer.
Then, learn how to make jerky.
This way, you can still paint in blood, although not-human, but blood for the blood god nonetheless, AND you get some damn good tasting jerky!
Other than that, I think it's a pretty creative idea, within limit. Diabetic people have to prick their fingers/belly on a daily basis and I'm sure there's some blood drawn in that process. And as long as you don't cut your wrists or the bottom of your feet (or neck, while we're at it) then I'm ok with it. Just know where your main arteries/veins are and you'll be safe.
If you don't like it, then shut up and deal with it. People have reasons to express creative ideas, and one of which is blood in paintings. Now, are they cutting off their fingers and using the bone for something on a model? No. They're using something painters over YEARS have done. Granted, dousing a model is blood is insane, but a little drop here or there is simply an idea to personalize a model, more so than if you just painted it for hours.
Lorgar's_Blessed wrote:If you don't like it, then shut up and deal with it. People have reasons to express creative ideas, and one of which is blood in paintings. Now, are they cutting off their fingers and using the bone for something on a model? No. They're using something painters over YEARS have done. Granted, dousing a model is blood is insane, but a little drop here or there is simply an idea to personalize a model, more so than if you just painted it for hours.
Yeah, it's also a crazy idea. Most painters that do that have some sort of mental issues. If your time is worth so little that you need to have to use your own blood to personalize it, I have a lot of manual labour tasks I could have you do instead... just no blood because the cops might get concerned...
Lorgar's_Blessed wrote:If you don't like it, then shut up and deal with it. People have reasons to express creative ideas, and one of which is blood in paintings. Now, are they cutting off their fingers and using the bone for something on a model? No. They're using something painters over YEARS have done. Granted, dousing a model is blood is insane, but a little drop here or there is simply an idea to personalize a model, more so than if you just painted it for hours.
Why should we shut up? We are entitled to express our opinions as much as you are. I'm not here saying "No you mustn't do that!" am I? No, I'm just expressing my own view of why i disagree with it. So take your "Shut up and deal with it" elsewhere. The OP purposely posted this thread for us to discuss it didn't he, thats what we are doing.
I think it was the time I spray undercoated (using the old extra-fumey Boltgun Metal spray) 3500pts of CSM in a way that led me accidentally (I promise) inhale most of said fumes that did it to me. Never been the same. o_0
Anyway, yes it's a little unbalanced, but who's not a little unbalanced in one direction or another? Certainly no-one under 25.
Some people think minor self-inflicted injury for the sake of satisfying an artistic urge and a dark personality is a trivial matter. Some people think it's the most foul concept devised in the field. I'd say both people are a tad unbalanced, but towards opposite ends of the spectrum.
I go to an art school where most of the artists are either goths or emos. (and they give them all exacto knives....) Needless to say there has been some questionable incidents. (My favourite was the poetry written on the wall with a needle and little human tomato juice.)
Personally I don't see anything wrong with it, its why I do it. I think it makes the minis seem cooler than your run of the mill "I painted blood red all over my sergeants chainsword!" kind of deal. Cause I can reply, "Well my sergeant has blood splattered all over 'im!" and when they comment that it doesn't look bright enough for paint....
Most people classify me as a goth, (I don't like labels, especially not trendy ones. If anyone asks I'm either an artist or a metalhead, depending on the context) but I don't cut myself at all, apart from said knife-knuckle-knight incident and if I want to add something that's literally part of me to a specific artwork. (Ie; I do a portrait of a demoniac face, and add a dribble of real blood from the edge of its mouth/whatever) I've done this a grand total of maybe five or six times in my life, and it's always artistically motivated (rather than motivated by manic depression or desire for attention).
It's not a big deal.
You get shots at the doctors, and a quick prick with a clean hobby blade doesn't hurt any more than the injection does. I've also disinfected and bandaged myself immediately after procuring enough blood, every time. It's all very surgical. Nor do I have any lasting scars from doing this. It's just a cat-scratch to obtain a drop or two for effect.
Diabetics have to do it to their finger EVERY DAY, and you wouldn't not play someone because they're a diabetic would you? What if someone had a freshly bandaged cut from the painting table and wanted a game? You could catch their diseases much more easily.
Being diabetic has nothing to do with it.
Pricking your finger to test for blood sugar levels to ensure that you don't slip into a coma is VERY different to purposely bleeding yourself so that you can paint minatures. And has nothing to do with the hobby.
I'm all for people expressing themselves and getting enjoyment from what you do. If bleeding and putting it over models to make them feel more personal is what makes you happy then go for it, and I hope the models look good when finished.
Just be prepared that most poeple(I assume) find it unhygenic and unsavoury. And in a lot of cases, may refuse to play you if you tell them.
Ktulhut wrote: What if someone had a freshly bandaged cut from the painting table and wanted a game? You could catch their diseases much more easily.
If the wound was still bleeding through the bandage then I'd agree, as everything you touch will be coated in that persons blood. If the wound was properly sealed then I wouldn't give a hoot.
hellsguardian31 wrote: If the wound was properly sealed then I wouldn't give a hoot.
You mean like how the dired blood is properly sealed by varnish?
Okay, my final judgement on the topic: Intentionally injuring yourself for any reason is a bit off, but so is being a little b*tch about other peoples blood. Sometimes I think people have nothing better to worry about than microbes. OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE GERMAPHOBES. If you really want a knot in your panties, I suggest resarching the swine-flu crossover. You won't be worrying about dried blood on a mini when physical contact or close proximity to people could (potentially) kill you.
I've bled for my minis: in addition to selling plasma for $$ I've also hacked fingers open during the modelling process. But, as *artistric* as mixing my actual blood with paint sounds, that's a little intense. I'm remaining neutral on the subject.
I've bled for my minis: in addition to selling plasma for $$ I've also hacked fingers open during the modelling process. But, as *artistric* as mixing my actual blood with paint sounds, that's a little intense. I'm remaining neutral on the subject.
I wouldn't be worried about contracting a disease from the dead blood cells, myself. Not unless they were freshly painted.
But I think cutting yourself to paint your miniatures is pretty dumb.
I'm outright flabbergasted at the offense people take to this idea. It's just a little blood, what's the big deal? Any proper painter will seal their mini when it's completed (especially if they're using something that flakes as easy as blood!) And the chances of contracting something are probably only marginally higher than any other mini that's constantly handled by grubby, unwashed hands. Just sounds like we've got ourselves a heap of Hemophobes up on Dakka.
This conversation reminds me alot of the Remembrancer in Fulgrim that started using her own excrement, male ejacualte, and eventually blood (or to be more accurate, an entirely decomposed human body) as paint. Good stuff.
I don't think I'd ever do it personally (maybe for a blood stain on a hero model, or something), but to someone who's willing to go that little extra mile for their hobby then all power to them (provided the results are, you know, good. There's no excusing the stupidity of bleeding for bad results).
I did, however, 'bless' one of my model's with a drop of my blood once. Total accident, though. I was converting up a Brettonian Lord with the idea in my head that this guy was going to specifically be my Avatar on the field of war, and not some character in my army. I gouged myself something fierce with a hobby knife and a drop of blood landed on the inside of his horse's body. I was about to wipe it up when the idea hit me that if I left it, I would have put my blood into the mini, giving him my life force. So I glued the horse together with a big glob of dried blood inside it. Just me being a dork, really.
To this date he has performed just like I imagine I would in the battlefield. Much waving of weapons and gnashing of teeth, to very little effect. Didn't think that one through.
If i have a knifeslip while making a model i dab a small bit on it out of habit/ritual. Never enough to texture it or ruin a paintjob and ive never intentionally cut myself.
hellsguardian31 wrote: If the wound was properly sealed then I wouldn't give a hoot.
You mean like how the dired blood is properly sealed by varnish?
Okay, my final judgement on the topic: Intentionally injuring yourself for any reason is a bit off, but so is being a little b*tch about other peoples blood. Sometimes I think people have nothing better to worry about than microbes. OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE GERMAPHOBES. If you really want a knot in your panties, I suggest resarching the swine-flu crossover. You won't be worrying about dried blood on a mini when physical contact or close proximity to people could (potentially) kill you.
The topic was what we thought of using blood to paint models. I stated my reasons. I think it's unhygienic. That doesn't make me an OCD germaphobe. And the possibility of an epidemic doesn't mean I shouldn't be concerned about other health problems.
People keep bringing up the fact that varnish would seal it in: I know a lot of people that don't use varnish. So, if one of them paints with their blood, then it's exposed.
Also, if you need to paint with blood to get a more realistic dried blood effect, then learn to paint better.
Ratbarf wrote:For those of you who weren't reading the horribly off topic thread about fisticuffs over Warhammer, I'll get you up to speed.
One of the respondents had, in passing, mentioned that one of the fellows at their FLGS painted their Khorne army in his own blood. Many of the repsondents continued to remark on how disgusting such an act would be. That is until I mentioned that I myself have done it as had quite a few of the B&C fellows who follow Khorne. At which point they gave further voice to their disgust and "WHY?" we would choose to do this. I have personally painted models with my own blood. My berserkers, of which I have few left, are painted with my blood mixed with red Gore and given a liberal wash of Badab black. I would post a picture but I cannot at this time locate my camera. So when I am aware of its whereabouts I will post a pic of it. In the meantime feel free to discuss this most delightful topic!
PS: Blood for the Blood God and all that!
Cheerio
You do realize thats not sane right?
Note to self, be sure to play with back against wall from now on...
I didn't want to go there when I read it in the other thread, but this is what I would do in that situation (or any situation like it.)
If you were attempting to play me at an actual store or even if you just brought them into the store (By store I mean the local hobby shop.):
1.) I would call the local police department, have them come out to the store, inform them of the situation, and file a full police report. I would then inform them that I am going to go to the local hospital to get full medical STD tests done and anything else that is required or suggested by them.
2.) In the days following the hospital visit and incident report filed w/ the local police department I would hire a lawyer to start a small claims report w/ the local court house regarding the issue mentioned in the police report and w/ the hospital - while claiming mental anguish (the fear of STDS, other biological contaminents, and etc.) and the knowingly endangerment of others.
3.) We'd most likely settle outside of court to the matter when you are issued your subpoena and either way - in court or otherwise - I would ask that the items in questions, your figures, be destroyed due to their biological contents. (An item that I am sure would happen regardless of my request.) In this way I would only assume that all of your painted figures would be confiscated and individually tested for the presence of blood.
4.) After seeing the case closed, collecting my dues, seeing your items destroyed, and paying my dues I would use the rest to buy my new army if not two.
Yes... I am a dick. It's people like you that piss me off by doing stupid things - as painting their models w/ their own blood. You deserve what you get my friend.
AlexCage wrote: I don't think I'd ever do it personally (maybe for a blood stain on a hero model, or something).
Just like when I did it.
Alazahr wrote: After seeing the case closed, collecting my dues, seeing your items destroyed, and paying my dues I would use the rest to buy my new army if not two.
Yes... I am a dick. It's people like you that piss me off by doing stupid things - as painting their models w/ their own blood. You deserve what you get my friend.
-J.
People like you, sir, are what's fething wrong with the world. I feel sorry for people who are forced to interact with you on a daily basis. :\
AlexCage wrote:
I don't think I'd ever do it personally (maybe for a blood stain on a hero model, or something).
Just like when I did it.
Alazahr wrote:
After seeing the case closed, collecting my dues, seeing your items destroyed, and paying my dues I would use the rest to buy my new army if not two.
Yes... I am a dick. It's people like you that piss me off by doing stupid things - as painting their models w/ their own blood. You deserve what you get my friend.
-J.
People like you, sir, are what's fething wrong with the world. I feel sorry for people who are forced to interact with you on a daily basis. :\
I'd rather be around a person like myself all day then a group of people that believe it is completely fine to paint a toy miniature in their own blood rather then painting it. I'd hope it would be safe to assume that while my screws are loose that the original posters' (and anyone w/ the same mindset for that matter) screws were left out during assembly by mistake.
AlexCage wrote:
This conversation reminds me alot of the Remembrancer in Fulgrim that started using her own excrement, male ejacualte, and eventually blood (or to be more accurate, an entirely decomposed human body) as paint. Good stuff.
Remind me never to come within 50 yards of your figs..
Alazahr wrote:
I'd rather be around a person like myself all day then a group of people that believe it is completely fine to paint a toy miniature in their own blood rather then painting it. I'd hope it would be safe to assume that while my screws are loose that the original posters' (and anyone w/ the same mindset for that matter) screws were left out during assembly by mistake.
-J.
I don't think it's fine to paint a miniature in blood, I do think it's acceptable to add a drop or two to an entire pottle of red gore when painting an army/warband then varnish it, and I do think it's acceptable to put a small drop onto an axe head that you then glaze with ink and varnish it. If someone literally painted their army blood red with a human blood wash for shading, I'd be concerned too. Or if they did ANY blood-work without letting it sit for a suitable time then varnishing. It's really not a big deal if you're safe with it. And as I said, I've been checked for pretty much every STD and blood-borne disease under the sun recently. I messed with some nasty girls it's true but I'm clean of disease and can prove it.
Alazahr wrote:
I'd rather be around a person like myself all day then a group of people that believe it is completely fine to paint a toy miniature in their own blood rather then painting it. I'd hope it would be safe to assume that while my screws are loose that the original posters' (and anyone w/ the same mindset for that matter) screws were left out during assembly by mistake.
-J.
I don't think it's fine to paint a miniature in blood, I do think it's acceptable to add a drop or two to an entire pottle of red gore when painting an army/warband then varnish it, and I do think it's acceptable to put a small drop onto an axe head that you then glaze with ink and varnish it. If someone literally painted their army blood red with a human blood wash for shading, I'd be concerned too. Or if they did ANY blood-work without letting it sit for a suitable time then varnishing. It's really not a big deal if you're safe with it. And as I said, I've been checked for pretty much every STD and blood-borne disease under the sun recently. I messed with some nasty girls it's true but I'm clean of disease and can prove it.
Your opponent however does not. If you simply stated after the fact, "It's cool... I don't have STDs, I've gotten tested." that I am supposed to simply go, "Oh? Well, cool." and carry on you're sadly mistake my friend.
Considering that I don't even play people with my chaos WFB army it's somewhat moot. It's just a display army. 5 knights, 5 horsemen, 10 hounds and a hero on daemonic steed. When they're all finished they'll be locked in the cabinet with other display pieces. I would thusly warn anyone who wanted to take them out for a look that it's real blood on the axe, so it's their call.
Alazahr wrote:I didn't want to go there when I read it in the other thread, but this is what I would do in that situation (or any situation like it.)
If you were attempting to play me at an actual store or even if you just brought them into the store (By store I mean the local hobby shop.):
1.) I would call the local police department, have them come out to the store, inform them of the situation, and file a full police report. I would then inform them that I am going to go to the local hospital to get full medical STD tests done and anything else that is required or suggested by them.
2.) In the days following the hospital visit and incident report filed w/ the local police department I would hire a lawyer to start a small claims report w/ the local court house regarding the issue mentioned in the police report and w/ the hospital - while claiming mental anguish (the fear of STDS, other biological contaminents, and etc.) and the knowingly endangerment of others.
3.) We'd most likely settle outside of court to the matter when you are issued your subpoena and either way - in court or otherwise - I would ask that the items in questions, your figures, be destroyed due to their biological contents. (An item that I am sure would happen regardless of my request.) In this way I would only assume that all of your painted figures would be confiscated and individually tested for the presence of blood.
4.) After seeing the case closed, collecting my dues, seeing your items destroyed, and paying my dues I would use the rest to buy my new army if not two.
Yes... I am a dick. It's people like you that piss me off by doing stupid things - as painting their models w/ their own blood. You deserve what you get my friend.
-J.
IF i was said modeler with army and this was do to me i would break your neck no one destroys my models or takes my money.....yes I'm a dick too
hey guise if yo brot an army id ont liek i wud lawlsuit yoo and totaly win 2 an tehy wud burn yur modls an giv me al yur mony tihs is a reel thret not sum internt tuf guy
Alazahr wrote:I didn't want to go there when I read it in the other thread, but this is what I would do in that situation (or any situation like it.)
If you were attempting to play me at an actual store or even if you just brought them into the store (By store I mean the local hobby shop.):
1.) I would call the local police department, have them come out to the store, inform them of the situation, and file a full police report. I would then inform them that I am going to go to the local hospital to get full medical STD tests done and anything else that is required or suggested by them.
2.) In the days following the hospital visit and incident report filed w/ the local police department I would hire a lawyer to start a small claims report w/ the local court house regarding the issue mentioned in the police report and w/ the hospital - while claiming mental anguish (the fear of STDS, other biological contaminents, and etc.) and the knowingly endangerment of others.
3.) We'd most likely settle outside of court to the matter when you are issued your subpoena and either way - in court or otherwise - I would ask that the items in questions, your figures, be destroyed due to their biological contents. (An item that I am sure would happen regardless of my request.) In this way I would only assume that all of your painted figures would be confiscated and individually tested for the presence of blood.
4.) After seeing the case closed, collecting my dues, seeing your items destroyed, and paying my dues I would use the rest to buy my new army if not two.
Yes... I am a dick. It's people like you that piss me off by doing stupid things - as painting their models w/ their own blood. You deserve what you get my friend.
-J.
IF i was said modeler with army and this was do to me i would break your neck no one destroys my models or takes my money.....yes I'm a dick too
Alazahr wrote:I didn't want to go there when I read it in the other thread, but this is what I would do in that situation (or any situation like it.)
If you were attempting to play me at an actual store or even if you just brought them into the store (By store I mean the local hobby shop.):
1.) I would call the local police department, have them come out to the store, inform them of the situation, and file a full police report. I would then inform them that I am going to go to the local hospital to get full medical STD tests done and anything else that is required or suggested by them.
2.) In the days following the hospital visit and incident report filed w/ the local police department I would hire a lawyer to start a small claims report w/ the local court house regarding the issue mentioned in the police report and w/ the hospital - while claiming mental anguish (the fear of STDS, other biological contaminents, and etc.) and the knowingly endangerment of others.
3.) We'd most likely settle outside of court to the matter when you are issued your subpoena and either way - in court or otherwise - I would ask that the items in questions, your figures, be destroyed due to their biological contents. (An item that I am sure would happen regardless of my request.) In this way I would only assume that all of your painted figures would be confiscated and individually tested for the presence of blood.
4.) After seeing the case closed, collecting my dues, seeing your items destroyed, and paying my dues I would use the rest to buy my new army if not two.
Yes... I am a dick. It's people like you that piss me off by doing stupid things - as painting their models w/ their own blood. You deserve what you get my friend.
-J.
You're a moron if you ask me.
I don't know whats more sad; the fact that you actually think the cops would take your side, or the fact that you took the time to think all those mentioned steps through. As disturbed as I think people are for puting blood in their models, wanting to cause them problems and/or harm is a huge overeaction to the situation. Its probably safe to say though that the posters before have already figured out what you really are.