I found this on the Games workshop website- looks like a bloody good model.

Sculpt looks ok, holding the sword way too low though.

The pose is very Aragorn to me. Nice model, I like it.

Wonder if there is going to be another scuplt, so you can mount him on a bike.

He looks a little excessive, but still a nice model.

Hopefully there's a bike model for him, I'm pretty sure nobody uses him without his bike.

Its complete fail as he doesnt have a bike; that is his main thing.

Yes, Where the feth is the bike???

still, a nice model, IMHO

He won't get a bike anytime soon I don't think. On the planetstrike preorder thread it says that he is a one model blister.

Eh, no bike, and really not all that interesting really. A space marine with a cape, and a mongol head, a mediocre offering at best to me.

Is he running or striding or nordic walking...i can't tell!

Boring model.

Greets
Schepp himself

Wow, you lot are a hard crowd to please! This is one of the BEST Space Marine models I've seen from GW in a long long time!

The fact he's not on a bike is, for me, irrelevant......

Schepp himself wrote:Is he running or striding or nordic walking...i can't tell!

Boring model.

Greets
Schepp himself

I cant tell either lol , thats why the upper torso + arms are so awful to me. ( pose makes absolutely no sense )
seems like GW is more interested to adding the blings onto their models rather then getting the movement / pose right.
*edit , dont tell me.... Same sculptor as the new Salamander guy with spear?

Delephont wrote:Wow, you lot are a hard crowd to please! This is one of the BEST Space Marine models I've seen from GW in a long long time!
The fact he's not on a bike is, for me, irrelevant......

Sorry :"< but for the people that can spot the mistake, its sticking out like a really sore thumb.

Hmmm... and the fact that everyone in the 40k universe carries a gun/sword/weapon that would out weigh them is somehow OK?!? LOL!!

LunaHound wrote:

Schepp himself wrote:Is he running or striding or nordic walking...i can't tell!

Boring model.

Greets
Schepp himself

I cant tell either lol , thats why the upper torso + arms are so awful to me. ( pose makes absolutely no sense )
seems like GW is more interested to adding the blings onto their models rather then getting the movement / pose right.
*edit , dont tell me.... Same sculptor as the new Salamander guy with spear?

Delephont wrote:Wow, you lot are a hard crowd to please! This is one of the BEST Space Marine models I've seen from GW in a long long time!
The fact he's not on a bike is, for me, irrelevant......

Sorry :"< but for the people that can spot the mistake, its sticking out like a really sore thumb.

If we look at the whfb empire greatswords we see GW can do better.

i give this a resounding.......meh

it says ONE BLISTER
that doesnt mean it wont come with a biker version and upgerde bits for a bike

Running, walking, jogging? cant make his mind up :(
whats with the weird ass hairly skull on his back aswell?


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that doesnt mean it wont come with a biker version and upgerde bits for a bike

Bikes come in boxes as they would not fit in a blister packs.

I like this version alooooooooooooot more. Good taste :3

*Oh please no " Feth Dynasty Warrior armor anime weabo" comment

LunaHound wrote:I like this version alooooooooooooot more. Good taste :3

*Oh please no " Feth Dynasty Warrior armor anime weabo" comment

Now thats a well posed model and awsome sculpt

I second this model

Now thats what a character should look like!

That model is not Kor'Sarro Khan, it is Jaghatai Khan, the White Scars Primarch. It's based on a drawing from I believe the horus heresy art book.

I know fear, but do you not agree that GW should fire the sculpter and hire the sculpter of this?

I like the model for the most part but they have the legs wrong as he should be stepping into the swing with his left foot not his right.

As I hardly ever put marines on bikes I do not care even a little that he does not have one.

JD21290 wrote:I know fear, but do you not agree that GW should fire the sculpter and hire the sculpter of this?

Yeah, all of those primarch conversions are great. This Kor'Sarro Khan model is alright, but kinda blah.

ph34r wrote:

JD21290 wrote:I know fear, but do you not agree that GW should fire the sculpter and hire the sculpter of this?

Yeah, all of those primarch conversions are great. This Kor'Sarro Khan model is alright, but kinda blah.

I know they are different , but JD got my point.

They just dont seem dynamic enough once GW has finished with them
They need to look a whole lot more daunting and dangerous, they just look like commanders.

You mean they should all be modelled similar to the Logan Grimnar model? That one looks rather badass and has an awsome pose.

Ratbarf wrote:You mean they should all be modelled similar to the Logan Grimnar model? That one looks rather badass and has an awsome pose.

Its not that im picky about dynamic poses . I rather see someone sculpt a correct pose even if they are standing there doing nothing , than a really
wrongly posed mini (Khan)

In other words : GW sculptor doesnt seem to know how human movements work.

Thats a good example ratbarf!
one of the few models they have made that look good.
He has a great pose, he looks like he will crush you with that hammer, and he looks like he commands an army into a battle from the forefront.


One model i do want remade is meph.
For such a great character (rules and fluff wise) he looks way too static and boring.

LunaHound wrote:I know they are different , but JD got my point.

Ah. When you said "I like this version a lot more" I took it to mean the obvious, that you liked that version [of Kor'Sarro Khan] better. Since that was the only model which had been posted.

i meant that you might have to buy the bike sepratly

You mean GW to put in some effort?
they will make more money if people have to buy multiple models to make him on his bike.
Also, they like leaving out the best choices from every kit (Dread plasma cannon :()


Fear, either way, if i saw that on the table i would not argue
Great model, decent pose, really works.
only crit i would have is the pure gold armour, if i was using it as normal khan then i would have white and gold armour

dont ruin this for me Dammit!!!!

LunaHound wrote:I like this version alooooooooooooot more. Good taste :3

*Oh please no " Feth Dynasty Warrior armor anime weabo" comment

Nice Ming the Merciless model.

Great, now I'll be going "Flash! Ahhhhaahhhh... he'll save every one of us!" all night long.

fail as hes not on a bike when he's a white scar, and they usually never field foot troops.

@ JD, Logan has an axe man.

The primarch model is way too busy.

The Khan model looks great, and y'all are far too critical.

Valhallan42nd wrote:The primarch model is way too busy.

The Khan model looks great, and y'all are far too critical.

isn't a primarchs armor supposed to be ostentatious?

I like the model but without the bike it'll never see play. The bike is the entire point to the character, even with the rhino flanking giving him considerable mobility anyway.

Delephont wrote:Wow, you lot are a hard crowd to please! This is one of the BEST Space Marine models I've seen from GW in a long long time!

The fact he's not on a bike is, for me, irrelevant......

You know who this guy is, right? The fact that he doesn't have a bike is just a tad relevant considering that anyone who uses him will almost definitely be taking the god-damned bike! There's very little point in taking him on foot so the fact that you can only buy the on-foot version is more than a little silly...

Other than that yeah, it's a good sculpt. But still...why?

Because.

LunaHound wrote:

In other words : GW sculptor doesnt seem to know how human movements work.

Thats because hes a frog! (keep it secret)

+1 to the group asking why Kor`sarro is not riding a bike.

Hehe. Maybe his head will be a separate bit so you can stick it on a Space Marine biker model.

I was kinda hoping for a Chronus-style character, you get him on foot and then half-a-him for a bike. Pity...

H.B.M.C., you're a fan of the Spoony One?

"The only way to overcome the power of the Warrior, is to take off and nuke the site from orbit, Hoak Hogan! SKRONK!"

But yeah, this character deserved a Chronus-style model more than freaking Chronus did.

Guys, I know the relevance of the bike, I guess I was just commenting on the "quality" of the figure itself.

By way of explanation, I totally agree that GW do not know how to sculpt

meh i was onsideirng getting him if he had te bike mainly so i could canniblize the bike.

without it even white scars players are hard pushed to buy the bike.

no bike = no buy
ill stick with my custom make...

H.B.M.C. wrote:I was kinda hoping for a Chronus-style character, you get him on foot and then half-a-him for a bike. Pity...

like i said maybe it will be
we dont know
its 2 months till its releashed so we dont know it could be releashed
KEEP UP HOPE.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Look familiar? No originality.

No originality? The bottom guy has a jump pack!

1 I swear this model was shown in a thread ages ago. You know the one obnoxiously titled KHAAAAAAAAAN !!

2 Him not havin a bike is bizarre. GW logic I guess.

3 As for the sculpt its alrite. (I generally only really love the stuff by Juan Diaz)

4 @Ironhide. How can you expect orignallity for GW.. espically with marines. Surely you dont expect originality. Also how many oher ways can you hold agreat sword.

LunaHound wrote:
Sculpt looks ok, holding the sword way too low though.

If he held it any higher his pauldrons would block his vision.. That's a perfectly acceptable level to hold it and advance on the enemy.

two_heads_talking wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
Sculpt looks ok, holding the sword way too low though.

If he held it any higher his pauldrons would block his vision.. That's a perfectly acceptable level to hold it and advance on the enemy.

Wrong , you would be right if he was the same body position as the assault marine posted.

The fact Khan have already pivoted his upper torso to that degree ( look at his chest armor position ) can only mean 2 possible actions are been followed through.

1) forward swing ( if thats the case , his arm is in wrong angle )

2) side swing ( if thats the case his pivoting foot and his head is pointed at the wrong direction )

He's walking with his sword at that angle. I just tried it with a broomstick in the mirror.. looks perfectly fine to me..

He's not raising it to strike, yet. He's not sweeping through either.. just advancing ..

Think of it like advancing and turning the torso to protect the chest from frontal attack and moving the blade to the side in order to see where he is going..

go ahead, grab a broom and give it a try..

Delephont wrote:...I totally agree that GW do not know how to sculpt

Ironhide wrote:... No originality.

yeah,
You guys don't know what your talking about, That model looks awesome.

Also I understand why the on foot model is first to be shown and being sold first.
It makes good business sense to sell the least desirable model first, then once enough of the onfoot models have been sold release the second more desirable bike model.
they probabily have both the bike and on foot model ready to go.

Panic...

Concur, looks pretty good to me.

@ garret - no mention of bike mounted Khan is made in new WD, just on foot Khan.

Perhaps he left his bike chained up outside the shops and had it stolen by chavs (in the UK, you can leave your bike set in concrete and it will still be stolen by chavs).

Per the studio guys at Games Day Baltimore, there's NO bike model. And it didn't sound like one was forthcoming.

They talked about how the cape & backpack are separate, so you can fairly easily saw the model in half to mount him on a bike and then use a different backpack.

They didn't state why there's no bike, but I bet I know what it is. An on-foot model can be sold in a blister. With a bike, it becomes a boxed set. Boxed sets take shelf space. And GW doesn't really want to devote shelf space to a WS special character.

you ruined this for me
dammit
why why couldnt you just let me keep on hoping

There is a bike Character in the form of Sammael for the Dark Angels that is a box set.

Ratbarf wrote:There is a bike Character in the form of Sammael for the Dark Angels that is a box set.

Dark Angels are a major chapter with their own Codex, though.

Well, Space marines are a major army with their own codex and hes in it. To not have a bike model is just stupid. At least put out a captian on a bike plastic kit. Now that would be cool.

I don't see why he has to hold it two-handed. Moonfang isn't a relic blade, it's a power sword that is a White Scars relic. He could have been modelled with one hand holding the blade, the other with two different hands. One hand holding a bolt pistol and the other modelled to grip a handle bar, kinda like the SM Termie Librarian. Then have the upper and lower torso seperate with an additional pair of legs for sitting on a bike. Have additional pieces to go on a regular SM bike to customize that. Kinda like they did with Chronus. Then people would just have to buy a SM biker for the bike.

Ratbarf wrote:Well, Space marines are a major army with their own codex and hes in it. To not have a bike model is just stupid. At least put out a captian on a bike plastic kit. Now that would be cool.

Is he on a bike in those rules?

Still, I think the priority list is Space Marines, Space Marines with their own Books, Space Marines that are oddball variants, Imperial Guard, Game Variants, and Xenos in that order.

OMG how has no 1 thought of this. Just get a sergeant on bike. ok? then get kor'sarro khan. got that? good. no take whatever bits you want of kor'sarro khan and stick 'em on the sergeant. that wasn't too hard was it?

deadly chicken wrote:OMG how has no 1 thought of this. Just get a sergeant on bike. ok? then get kor'sarro khan. got that? good. no take whatever bits you want of kor'sarro khan and stick 'em on the sergeant. that wasn't too hard was it?

The way you say that it sounds like you work at a day care or with mentally disabled. Problem with Khan is that the model is probably three or four pieces (torso, hands holding sword, backpack and whatever else)

Okay, so he can be "easily" sawed in half and mounted on a bike...

Except for the fact that he's holding a two-handed fething sword, and it's a metal model. You'd be better off taking a regular plastic Marine on bike and just converting it yourself if that were the case, since the only usable part of the entire model would be his chest and head.

Really, really stupid move on GW's part, but I guess that's what they'd call par for the course. It just wouldn't be GW if they made sense.

Sidstyler wrote:Really, really stupid move on GW's part, but I guess that's what they'd call par for the course. It just wouldn't be GW if they made sense.

Exactly what I thought then I came across this. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1400018&prodId=prod1400027

I suppose they want you to buy this and a space marine bike as well as Khan then do a head and weapon swap and pop him on the bike.

lol. I dont see why you cant just plonk him in a rhino with troops. please enlighten me

yeah,
The issue is basic, White Scars are the Bike Marines!
Their Leader should be on a Bike!



Panic...

Sidstyler wrote:Really, really stupid move on GW's part, but I guess that's what they'd call par for the course. It just wouldn't be GW if they made sense.

It does make sense...for them from a placement, packaging and production standpoint. Of course, the irony in this case is that the actual product isn't all that useful to the customer. I think this example -- like some others we've seen lately -- shows what's important to GW and where their heads are these days. *shrug*

Sidstyler wrote:

Delephont wrote:Wow, you lot are a hard crowd to please! This is one of the BEST Space Marine models I've seen from GW in a long long time!

The fact he's not on a bike is, for me, irrelevant......

You know who this guy is, right? The fact that he doesn't have a bike is just a tad relevant considering that anyone who uses him will almost definitely be taking the god-damned bike! There's very little point in taking him on foot so the fact that you can only buy the on-foot version is more than a little silly...

Other than that yeah, it's a good sculpt. But still...why?

I agree with Sidstyler.

I mean, come on. This is like making a Sammael model without a bike. Chaos Spiky Marines without Spikes. It shouldn't happen. Ever.

Even I thought that GW had a few brain cells. Guess not.

To repeat my question from earlier, do his rules have him on foot or on a bike? Or options for both?

Both.

Ironhide wrote:I don't see why he has to hold it two-handed. Moonfang isn't a relic blade, it's a power sword that is a White Scars relic...

yeah,
This is probabily the most important observation in this thread.
It's kinda implied that it's a relic blade, but it doesn't actually say it...
The model and the codex art Show a two handed blade...

Relic blade - two handed - Kor'Sarro Khan will have 3 attacks at str6 in combat.
Power Sword - single handed - Kor'Sarro Khan will have 4 attacks at str4 in combat. (he has a pistol)



It's a bit messy...
Panic...

Huh. Then I have to admit it is a little weird. I'm surprised, as I thought most special characters were still zero-options.

Ironhide wrote:



Look familiar? No originality.

Because standing heroically, screaming, and pointing with your sword/axe/crozius is soooo original.

I like this model cause it's not doing that. Same reason I like the DA captain, he's not screaming and pointing with his sword.

This model has me completely irritated. Why cannot GW produce a nice, useful and original model for a character that hasn't gotten a model yet? We have like three Calgar versions, but when they make a monster like Khan, they just copypasta a Vanguard vet and call it a day. The obvious thing to have done would have been to either:

a) sculpt ONLY a bike model, even if it was just the torso-up

b) sculpt a pose that would have been easy to convert

Did they make this guy on a bike awhile back?

No.

If GW doesn't want to do the work to make an outstanding model, then why not just have open sculpting contest with the winner recieving a prize. GW gets all rights to the model and the modeller gets a cash prize or somthing comparable.

Blightdron wrote:I found this on the Games workshop website- looks like a bloody good model.

When I look at it up close and all that pose looks bloody slowed

You might as well just buy the White Scar bike bitz insterad of this model.

does someone have a side pic of him. that sword looks awfully straight for a guy coming from a world based off mongolia.

Smashotron wrote:This model has me completely irritated. Why cannot GW produce a nice, useful and original model for a character that hasn't gotten a model yet? We have like three Calgar versions, but when they make a monster like Khan, they just copypasta a Vanguard vet and call it a day.

There's three Calgars because they made one model for him in the late 80s, one around 1994, and one around 2005. I think that's perfectly reasonable.

Honestly, I think the model is okay by it's own merits. Much nicer than the model for Vulkan, which is even more overdetailed than this one and lacks something even resembling a dynamic pose. Still a bit baffling that there's no modeled bike option, but whatever. They'll probably rename the "White Scars Commander Conversion Pack" to "Khan on Bike Conversion Pack" and call it a day.

This actually seems pretty easy to model on a bike after taking a better look at it

just need a good razor saw and some GS.


Cut him in half, giving you a top section and waist downwards.
cut the legs so they can be positioned onto the footwells of a bike, position the waist area onto the bike and use GS to join the gaps and cover any mistakes (hopefully none)

cut the left hand from the sword.
cut the left arm off.
seperate the shoulder pad section for use later on.
use a biker arm with the metal shoulder section + GS to pose it holding the bike bars. (shouldnt be too much work)
cut and position the right arm to look like he is swinging the sword.


As i said, not much work atall
ok, it may seem like alot of work, but it should take no longer than an hour or 2.
and by doing it this way you keep all the detail on the model.

shuma you should do that as a tutorial when it comes out so for everyone

Ratbarf wrote:Well, Space marines are a major army with their own codex and hes in it. To not have a bike model is just stupid. At least put out a captian on a bike plastic kit. Now that would be cool.

No kidding. As I build my WS successor army, it astounds me to realize that the only characters offered on bikes are either Ravenwing (Sammael) or a chaplain. Neither of which is really a good source for generic captain-worthy bikes or riders, as they're both too encrusted with iconography that'd have to be cut off/repurposed.

Is there a biker version of Kahn?

WillFrost wrote:Is there a biker version of Kahn?

...no.

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