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Post by: legoburner
As requested by lostlegionminiatures
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Post by: Owain
I go to rough it up/crew have made repairs. Bullet holes, the occasional hastily welded-on patch.
I tend to make my entire armies look a little careworn.
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Post by: 1hadhq
What is this battle damage you speak off ????
Never went into weathering and I dont see the need to show the vehicles in the middle of a conflict without halfway decent status.
If you look at some old pics, most vehicles were sorted out and pulled back for repairs, damage like its sometimes shown wont
be the case at the moment of the "game of 40k". So, I am not interested in an appearance of my vehicles that represents the vehicle after the game, if its not destroyed.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Factory fresh. No marks, scuffs, or other blemishes.
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Post by: sgtpjbarker
I did factory fresh with all my kits, until one day I messed up on a kit so to cover I battle damaged it. Everyone says it is their favorite and I have had tons of offers to sell it. My problem is that battle damage is like starting a whole new kit. I really struggle to find the right worn vs. destroyed look. ANY thoughts would be greatly appreciated. One GW salesman told me "When you ask yourself, is that enough? That is when you stop painting."
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Post by: Forgotmytea
Factory fresh. Though that is kind of dictated by the fluff, as the Monolith self-repairs damage, and I can't imagine my Eldar letting blemishes stand on their tanks for long =P
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Post by: kronk
Factory Fresh.
My Black Templars take great pride in their equipment, giving each tank, speeder, dreadnought, and bike a complete overhaul after each battle, skirmish, and Thanksgiving Day parade.
It's the right thing to do. They are gifts from the Emperor, therefore they are an extension of the Emperor.
Only a heretic, Xenos, or Space Wolf would allow his equipment to fall into disrepair.
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Post by: SilverMK2
My CSM vehicles are more weathered and horrible than my other vehicles because they are Nurgle aligned.
However, my other vehicles are somewhere between "roughed up" and "dusty" to varying degrees. Mr ork vehicles are between "half destroyed" and "repaired by the crew".
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
I like gritty & weathered
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Post by: Cryonicleech
I start out with Factory Fresh, then as my army progresses I'll add Battle Damage to the entire army to represent its growing experience.
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Post by: KingCracker
Im an Ork player, but I still only like the worn out look for my Orks. I just cant bring myself to make them moving scrap heaps like so many people want Orks to look like.
When I play Tau, itll be factory Fresh. No self respecting army would let their things go out into conflict looking like its be rusting away in a ships hull for decades. (except Orks of course)
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Post by: FITZZ
Well, considering that I play Orkz and Death Guard, factory fresh wouldn't really look right in my armies.
However,even though my vehicles are "ramshackled,rusting wrecks or decayed,rotting abominations" I still attempt to make them look as nice as I can.
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Post by: mattyrm
I like immaculate, i figure SM never retreat, so your vehicle should be either immaculate or exploded!
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Post by: CadianXV
Rough it up. All my armies vehicles have chips, scrapes and occasional bullet holes.
I figure that for SM, you're not going to pull a vehicle back to a strike cruiser after each engagement for a fresh coat of paint.
For SoB, they're too busy bringing death to heretics to worry about the odd chip (granted, these vehicles have far less damage however).
Guard however have to rely on their own initiative, hence bullet holes, chips, dents, and plenty of dust!
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Post by: Karoline Dianne
Other...
I generally don't paint my vehicles with anything more than the base color. I really don't like painting that much surface, lol.
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Post by: Quintinus
Honestly, it depends on the vehicle. When I used to play Imperial Guard (before Arby struck), my first Leman Russ had a lot of damage to represent its many engagements, but my 3rd Leman Russ was pretty much factory perfect.
In fact, the color of the Leman Russes in my army changed color as well, from a lighter grey to a darker grey to represent armor throughout the ages. (Okay, it was because I used different spraypaint but I thought of a good background reason for it)
Most of the time, I like the vehicles factory fresh, with maybe a little dust but nothing big.
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Post by: gretar
Depends .. i like it with a full on battle damage for my Orks and Chaos , but the rest.. not so much . But i still love weathering , and therefore a wash of devlan mud is not to be concidered weathering in my book(that way i can still feel good..)
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Post by: shrike
my razorback has barbed wire across the top, meltagun damage in the side, about 40 bullet holes in a long, snaking line across the side, bio-acid damage in the side, a demolisher shell wedged in the front, and shrapnel buried on the other side.
my other SM and steel legion tanks mostly have just bullet holes and chips, but my ork vehicles are half destroyed!
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Post by: oggers
I clip chunks out of the sides.
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Post by: Sirsolo
I usually just make it look like all my tanks rolled through a big puddle.
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Post by: despoiler52
Since I play orks, there is only really one option for me, it should appear as though it has been destroyed several times over.
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Post by: HoverBoy
That really depends on the army for me:
My tau have mostly dirt and the occasional bullet hole on them, seeing as tau still know how to make their vehicles so have replacement parts on hand, with the exception of one hammerhead that has a rather large armor plate welded over to commomerate the first time it fell to a lasscannon shot.
The IG are a bit more roughed up with small repairs visible on several vehicles.
And iknow its not technically a vehicle as such but i have a big scar on the back of my regenerating Carnifex.
As for the SM i haven't painted them yet but i plan on having a little weapon damage on them with some repairs that are harder to spot than those on the IG tanks, to represent the techmarine's superior skill as compared to an IG field engineer.
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Post by: Pherion
Fresh and clean! Eldar remember how their technology works, and hell, they can grow the wraithbone right back into the tank! No excuses for bullet holes!
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Post by: HoverBoy
Pherion wrote:Fresh and clean! Eldar remember how their technology works, and hell, they can grow the wraithbone right back into the tank! No excuses for bullet holes!
I agree eldar shouldn't have damaged vehicles, they have almost every conflict planned in advance anyway.
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Post by: S.m.o.ta.t.
factory fresh...only because my painting skills are lacking.
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Post by: oadie
Haven't painted up any of my vehicles yet. For Orks, hell yeah, they'll be rusty and dirty. For SM? Depends on the fluff of the chapter I pick. Extended campaigning and limited supplies warrants battle damage, specific climate may warrant environmental effects (Space Wolves would get some snow, etc.), preferred enemies would warrant specific trophies, etc. If I end up loving or hating the battle-damaging process, I'll make it a habit to avoid it or do it to all of my later models.
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Post by: Schmapdi
Just a touch - mostly I'm afraid trying to weather things will screw up the model at the last minute.
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Post by: Hialmar
My problem with having any of the marine equipment in anything other than near pristine condition is the tremendous amount of downtime that they have between missions, the length of time spent between planets and the resources available to them. Also with that amount of downtime,if they are like any other military unit througout modern history, they will spend an inordinate of time checking and re-checking their equipment.
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Post by: arachnid
just a spot of dust.
Emperors children, when not ripping people apart on the battlefield, are usually seen polishing their stuff..
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Post by: Candroth
shrike wrote:my razorback has barbed wire across the top, meltagun damage in the side, about 40 bullet holes in a long, snaking line across the side, bio-acid damage in the side, a demolisher shell wedged in the front, and shrapnel buried on the other side.
I would love to see a few pictures of that.
The Dreadnoughts will not have battle damage -- to leave such a venerated thing in disrepair would be a grave dishonor to the soul inside. I will probably rough up the Rhinos though, owing to them rushing into battle and getting generally banged up by terrain let alone enemies.
If I ever get crazy and make an IG army, totally going for serious roughing up.
The Chaos Marines will have battle damage. Who gives a crap if a Rhino gets punked, just steal another one the next time they invade an Imperial planet! They'll be too busy going crazy to really care about a bullet hole here or there.
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Post by: FRENCHY147
I don't play, but when I look at a 40k army I like to see a variety of every single option.
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Post by: Kozaan
My Eldar are factory fresh and my speehs Mahreens are pretty roughed up.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Half destroyed, also with my SM s
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Post by: rzsanguine
My Eldar are brand new. My SM are faily new with one old rhino which has some unitentional wear and tear on it.
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Post by: Lord of Kaith
I like a few chips in the paint, a couple of bullet holes, and mud all over the tracks of mine.
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Post by: lowkey48
I go for dirt/mudon the tracks and hull of my marines vehicles. Some battle damage here and there. I don't like the factory fresh look.
My marines were made to fight, so them and their vehicles should look like they've been doing some work and are not just on parade drills.
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Post by: The Good Green
Orks and goblins don't have many rides without some battle damage, or plain old wear-n-tear... but some of the speed freaks and storm boyz might...
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Post by: Happygrunt
Factory fresh as of now, But I plan to but some snow in my vindicators shield due to it being pushed through junk while moving. But Everything else will look pretty good. I dont even put scorched marks on the barrels of meltas and flamers, because my marines would just go repair that when on the battle barge.
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Post by: crazypsyko666
I don't paint, but if I did, it would very much depend on the army. Orks make their stuff out of scrap, so I'd make it look like it. Eldar are shiny and perfect, Tau are pretty close to that (but when it's done well, GOD DAMN does it look good on tau) SM, it depends on the chapter. I wouldn't expect to see it on Salamanders or Iron Hands, but Black Templar, Ultrasmurfs and Blood Angels I wouldn't mind a bit of chips here and there, some dust and rust. CSM to me would be worn down but painted fresh, like lots of rust covered up by new paint. IG, wouldn't even blink if they went into battle with two-foot holes in their tanks, slabs of metal bolted on, and missing limbs. The only other army I'd expect to look pristine (though maybe somewhat scratched up) are the Grey Knights, just because they're too badass for damage (lol.) Necrons should look dusty, but not much else. Maybe a few gashes in the metal, but necrodermis is supposed to be a healing metal, isn't it?
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Post by: Krellnus
Other...
Because I have painted only one tank, therefore have not set upon a particular style.
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Post by: Curly
Factory fresh, I'm lazy
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Post by: BishopGore
I drybrush pretty much all of my vehicles, so they look a bit dusty, but I don't go for scratched paintwork or bullet holes, so they're closer to Factory fresh than anything else. Yes, even my Orks.
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Post by: Vargtass
Ork-player. Need I say more?
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Post by: Kandle
Mine are all fairly new looking, even the Orks with their 'factory fresh' bolted together scrap heaps
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Post by: Boss 'eadbreaka
My Ork vehichles are absolutely covered in filth, dents, bullet holes and super-scratched paint.
And I wouldn't have it any other way!
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Other. Because Nids have no vehicles. What? Carnifexes are the Nids tank equivalent? Oh well, he is too strong to be hurt.
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Post by: LEEQAEX
Mine are a little damaged .I do alot of conversions from marine to chaos , so I sort of make it look improvised chaosy type stuff.
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Post by: c34r34lk1ll3r
WHFB doesn't really have vehicles but I paint mud on the bottom of my Cavalry hoves/paws/feet/etc. I might make a bolt from a toothpick and stick it in a Stonethrower or a ogre/Dragon/Giant.
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Post by: Savis
I like to do it on a case to case, army to army kind of basis. For instance my space marines are quite factory fresh. My necrons are a little bit rusty/oily. My penal legion when I finally get around to it will be very dirty and battle worn. So for me it's in the theme of the army.
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Post by: Turalon
I go for the lots of damage and weathering on my Guard because I play a city fight themed army, so lots of battlefield repairs and no time to go back somewhere safe to get it done. My infantry also include lots of walking wounded and dirtied uniforms to reflect this.
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Post by: HoverBoy
Is two months threadcomancy?
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Post by: Brunius
I haven't painted any vehicles yet. I'm thinking maybe one squad factory fresh and and another battle damaged.
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Post by: Farseer Faenyin
I chose 'factory fresh', as an Eldar player. Eldar's style of war, and tactics used make me think Eldar vehicles either manhandle the enemy with a superior army movement or die horrifically.
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Post by: Cadet_Commissar_Ludd
Farseer Faenyin wrote:I chose 'factory fresh', as an Eldar player. Eldar's style of war, and tactics used make me think Eldar vehicles either manhandle the enemy with a superior army movement or die horrifically.
I take the same view with my tau vehicles (none of my hammerheads even have a scratch)
My Guard however....
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Post by: mLuds
I prefer my vehicles fairly new looking, a bit of rust near the treads at most.
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Post by: Gunkh Inmashnozz
As an aspiring Orc Warlord, I believe vehicles should look "well loved". Mud on the tires, the occasional mismatched armour plate etc. As for anything more than that, Open topped vehicles tend to go boom alot, so I do have a nice set of scratch built crater templates that tend to come in handy. Even more fun when you hand one to a blown up land raider's owner.
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Post by: LordWynne
H.B.M.C. wrote:Factory fresh. No marks, scuffs, or other blemishes.
I like this and steal his factory fresh smelling vehicles and add them to my forces with a fresh coat of chop shop black and brass and down the road I go.....
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Post by: Suicidal Cheez
Tau and Space Marines are both armies with sparkling clean armour. I would add battle damage if I was as good as a golden deamon winner :p
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Post by: kaidsin
I think for different armies it makes a difference. Marines should look fresh, orks kind of beat up, chaos stuff all evil and mashed? My marines are painted to be crisp!
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Post by: Absolutionis
I want to see a Craftworld (not Exodite nor Infe(s/c)ted) Eldar army that looks roughed up. Best I ever saw was a Wraithlord that had battle damage that looked almost like charred bone marrow.
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Post by: Avatar 720
Other, I don't paint other than very rarely and I haven't even attempted my vehicles yet because I can't paint for toffee; good battle-damage, like highlights, blending etc. are far beyond my skill level.
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Post by: CT GAMER
I play orks, which affords mw the opportunity to go to town: rust, grime, soot, bullet holes, dents, jury-rigged repairs, added scrap and plates, etc., etc.
The "scrap heap" look is something I enjoy about Ork vehicles....
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Post by: necrongod
it depends what army im painting. orks: looks like its got the sh*t beaten out of it. CSM: a little bit of damage but not much
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Post by: EagleArk
SilverMK2 wrote:However, my other vehicles are somewhere between "roughed up" and "dusty" to varying degrees. Mr ork vehicles are between "half destroyed" and "repaired by the crew".
I can`t decide in which state it would be in worse repair, fixed buy orks, or halp destroyed?
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Post by: Big Tim
For my Tau I prefer to have the "roughed up" look, and for my Nurgle army I like the "half destroyed" look. I have never really cared for the "factory fresh" look. This is a universe where there "is only war". Things aren't going to look new for very long.
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Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe
Like it to look like it's been around the block a few times but nothing that indicates poor maintenance or acquiescence to my opponent's ability to blow it up.
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Post by: Mukkin'About
For orks, i dirty / wreck it . seems proper
IG seems like middle ground for me
For marines I like them to look OCD fresh
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Post by: Element206
I say rough it up....this is war after all!
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Post by: EagleArk
So much damage there may be nothing there
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Post by: Ixias
I chose The crew have made repairs, although playing orks I should probably make it The crew have made "repairs"
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Post by: Shas'O Dorian
I make mine factory fresh. Mainly because I'm bad at painting and can't do those nice little details. If i tried the model would just look worse.
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Post by: Wardragoon
My DA Land Raiders look like they've been through hell and back, largely because they are in temporary(fluffwise)use from some CSM who no longer need to use the land raider
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Post by: Cable
I live four blocks from a carwash.............so factory fresh!!
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Post by: CT GAMER
JohnHwangDD wrote:I like gritty & weathered
+1
I find that grit and weathering adds another layer of depth to a model.
I find "factory fresh" models often look too toy-like and flat tbh...
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Post by: NiiloTimantti
I haven't gotten around to painting my vehicles yet
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Post by: djphranq
I have yet to paint a vehicle... I'd probably just make it real vanilla for now... and when I get better I'll add some flavor in the form of mudsplatter and scratches... maybe some bullet holes... or is that Lasgun holes?
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Post by: Ugavine
Rough it up.
More so for my Orks. Although I've not really gone overboard with my Ork vehicles yet, but I intend to with my next Land Raider inspired Battle Wagon.
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Post by: ghargatuloth
Factory Fresh! hmmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmm that new tank smell!
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Post by: Jensvejmand
only one of my leman russ tanks have scratched armor, but they both have mudcovered tracks. infact all of my tanks have mud covered or dusty tracks, but my Chimera has the most battle damage, because it brings troops to the fight. my Bassilisk does have some chipped metal and gunpowder residue on the gun though.
But I prefer them to be just dusty.
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Post by: BloodAngles_Chris
I like some a the danamged models if done well, but clean looks so nice put on the table
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Post by: Melkhiordarkblade
Factory fresh.
My Slaanesh Marines have expensive taste.
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Post by: guyperson5
A few chips here and there, the occasional mud spatter and heat damage where it may occur. Rarely I might put an actual hole on the vehicle. I don't want to spoil the vehicle by putting too much damage on it
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Post by: mekbadzappa
Look at my renegades blog, that'll show you some nice reusing of old vehicles http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/358569.page
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Post by: lessthan1337
ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS! Greenstuff wrapped on the cables, plasticard/bitz armor patches, the more the orkier!
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Post by: Frostreaver
My Space Marines have a fair bit of paint chips and mud and dust. I like the 'experienced' look.
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Post by: zxwarrior
I like the slight battle damage if it is done right. and by the way nice pic john hwangDD
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Post by: Scarey Nerd
I play Necrons so I only have Monoliths, but I chose Factory Fresh because I always paint them very shiny to illustrate the fact that it's Living Metal that can smooth over damage.
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Post by: Bonde
I play an IG combined veteran armoured regiment, so I do quite a lot of weathering and battle damage to individualize my many tanks. Stuff like shell glances, bolter damage, solid slug holes, crew repairs, crew modifications, soot and army wide heavy mud are very common, depending on the type of tank.
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Post by: Ouze
Depends. I have 4 factions, and I do:
Necrons: zero damage, living metal.
Space Marines - chipped paint on the edges, dust & dirt on the tracks. My thinking is these guys have servitors to clean up the vehicles fairly constantly, so I don't envision them having more then a battle or two's worth of damage. My Blood Ravens are slightly more damaged then Ultras.
CSM: Same as Space Marines, only substitute "slaves" for "servitors".
Orks: not finished until they are beat up pretty bad.
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Post by: Runna
no such thing as factory fresh for orks, waste of f*n time. Throw some plates on it, paint it red, and write waaaagh somewhere. If it ain't missin a gun or a wheel, it's good enough!!
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Post by: nickick
A little bit of damage, not much...
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Post by: OneMeanDuck
My eldar and dark eldar are right out of the factory. I mean if you actually hit those tanks their probably dead anyways.. My Chaos SPace Marine Rhino's are closer to dead then not..
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Post by: clively
I voted "Other".
Most of my painted "damage" is really just a result of lousy painting.
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Post by: Kimzi Caky
Other, I have no vehicles. :(
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Post by: Sinful Hero
Tyranids don't get vehicles...
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Post by: sennacherib
Yeha.. i am average again. just an average gamer i guess. I always like to do a little battle damage. My Ultras have a few seriouse scuffs.
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Post by: Viersche
Rough it up - makes my army look more battle worn
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Post by: HAZZER
Roughing it up deffently
see the example of my rhino that is featured on my blog-check it out!!!  (Link in sig)
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Post by: Talarn Blackshard
I got factory fresh, caue painting is currently i weakest aspect of this hobby so until I can have a finished image that I really like, I tend to go factory fresh.
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Post by: Scorchedangel767
Depends on the army... My orks are very worn on the vehicles, the meks dont always have enough time to make repairs between stuffs, but the tau are very crisp and clean.
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Post by: Ouze
For me, it's faction-specific. My fluff involves Ultramarines supporting Blood Ravens on their decimated recruiting worlds to repay a debt of honor. As such, the Ultramarines will send essentially honor guard in their most pristine equipment and support staff to keep it that way. The Blood Raven equipment is much more "functional" and has some battle damage painted on.
For my Necrons, there is no battle damage on vehicles. Their color palette brightens as they rank up - a warriors is much darker then a Lychguard or Lord.
My chaos guys, when I finally do some vehicles, will be moderately damage since they are ancient, but still in good conditions via slave support staff.
My orks are all always pretty messed up, as is Orky.
Edit: Oops, duplicate post, sorry. I thought this thread looked familiar, I already responded
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Post by: Sharkvictim
I don't do battle damage. I think as a general effect it looks good, but too much is too much. Any given model should generally stick to ornamentation, weathering, battle damage, or nurglification/excessive conversion. If you do all of that stuff it (on each model) can make your models look ridiculous. Anyway most of my stuff is nurgled out.
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Post by: Squat Kid
My Chimeras have factory fresh paint and a nice wash/wax. My henchmen take good care of their rides
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Post by: Dracoknight
Playing Tyranids, They are Desert themed ( yellow/white camo armor plating and black on the rest ) so they are at most "dusty"
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Post by: azrel9
Honestly, i think it boils down to how you view your own army, as a dark angels player, i like to have alot of battle damage on my vehicles, as it gives the impression of a prolonged engagement, without rest or respite from the consistent assault against the enemy. i always imagine my dark angels on the last heroic push, in complete and utter defiance of the overwhelming odds presented by the current alien, daemon or heretic that is at hand. and when applied to my army as a whole, it makes even the basic tactical bolt gun wielding marines, look like a harden veterans, the living embodiments of the emperor's undying will, bent on the destruction of all whom appose him, as they should be
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Post by: steelcult
Orks - Rough it up a bit - scratched paint, a few patches etc.
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Post by: necrovamp
Muddy, a bit scratched, sometimes a bit of repairing, I try to look at photographs of tanks in combat amd go off them, it gives the most realistic feel.
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Post by: Wee_Tam
Half and half.
Some of mine look weathered and battleworn, some of mine look factory fresh, some look as if they have seen a bit of service.
If going for the genuine effect, i think this approach works, as personal experience has taught me, not every piece of hardwear/kit is massively worn, nor factory fresh.
Same with my troops, some i wash to make them look dirty, some i dont, some i half do, so it looks as if they have some new, some old kit on.
Mixing it up a bit is the way forward to a realistic and good looking army.
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Post by: Wardragoon
Wee_Tam wrote:Half and half.
Some of mine look weathered and battleworn, some of mine look factory fresh, some look as if they have seen a bit of service.
If going for the genuine effect, i think this approach works, as personal experience has taught me, not every piece of hardwear/kit is massively worn, nor factory fresh.
Same with my troops, some i wash to make them look dirty, some i dont, some i half do, so it looks as if they have some new, some old kit on.
Mixing it up a bit is the way forward to a realistic and good looking army.
I think I may end up going for that, considering that my army is a recently battletorn regiment, so as I get new units they will look shiny, however the other ones will look factory fresh, since they are
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Post by: DreadlordME!
Depends on ze army.
CSM, roughed up, as I figure Khorne Bezerkers wouldn't care a heap.
BA, a little bit of scorch marks and bullet holes.
DE, quite immaculate.
GK, immaculate.
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Post by: The Apothecary
Factory Fresh.
However I plan on doing a little bit of mud and other bits to my new Crimson Fist Army
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Post by: necrovamp
In the real world tanks don't tend to get too dirty/damaged, but you see a lot of repairs/official and unofficial upgrades.
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